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malvisguy212: [s] There are a few key issues we must understand in regards to this account of the youths cursing Elisha. The text reads, “From there Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, some youths came out of the town and jeered at him. ‘Go on up, you baldhead!’ they said. ‘Go on up, you baldhead!’ He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the LORD. Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the youths.” It seems unbelievable that God would cause two bears to maul a group of children for making fun of a man for being bald. First, the King James Version has done us a disservice by translated the term as “children.” The Hebrew word can refer to children, but rather more specifically means "young men." The NIV, quoted here, uses the word “youths.” Second, the fact that the bears mauled 42 of the youths indicates that there were more than 42 youths involved. This was not a small group of children making fun of a bald man. Rather, it was a large demonstration of young men who assembled for the purpose of mocking a prophet of God. Third, the mocking of “go on up, you baldhead,” is more than making fun of baldness. The baldness of Elisha referred to here may be: 1) natural loss of hair; 2) a shaved head denoting his separation to the prophetic office; or more likely, 3) an epithet of scorn and contempt, Elisha not being literally bald. The phrase “go up” likely was a reference to Elijah, Elisha’s mentor, being taken up to Heaven earlier in 2 Kings chapter 2:11-12. These youths were sarcastically taunting and insulting the Lord’s prophet by telling him to repeat Elijah’s translation. In summary, 2 Kings 2:23-24 is not an account of God mauling young children for making fun of a bald man. Rather, it is a record of an insulting demonstration against God’s prophet by a large group of young men. Because these young people of about 20 years of age or older (the same term is used of Solomon in 1 Kings 3:7) so despised the prophet of the Lord, Elisha called upon the Lord to deal with the rebels as He saw fit. The Lord’s punishment was the mauling of 42 of them by two female bears. The penalty was clearly justified, for to ridicule Elisha was to ridicule the Lord Himself. The seriousness of the crime was indicated by the seriousness of the punishment. The appalling judgment was God’s warning to all who would scorn the prophets of the Lord. [/s]

C & P

Are you saying the KJV is not reliable

the hebrew translated it to be "Children", so what are u sayin again..?

between you never adrress the other 2 verse.

FrancisTony: ^^

@Rilwayne, that was God of old testament.

Are you sayin the God of OT is no more (dead)

Btw...lanrxlan as showed you the verse in malachi where he said he does not change, find another excuses mr. man

FrancisTony: Jesus came and died for our sins. Those thing won't happen again.

Tell me what will happen to those that never accept jesus in his second coming?

according to peter..
(2 Peter 3:10-13)But the day of the lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with a fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up. Therefore,since all these things will be dissolved, what manner of persons ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness, looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be dissolved, being on fire, and the elements will melt with fervent heat? Nevertheless we,according to His promise, look for a new heaven and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.

So whats your point that the buybull god is not cruel again

Also jesus word in Luke 19:7-
But those mine enemies , which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and SLAY them before me.

Can you please explain what jesus was saying here ^^

if he actually died for there sins why would he sought to slay them again in his second coming.

cant you just think straight

FrancisTony: Please, quote New testament biko.

(Acts 5:1-11 NLT) There was also a man named Ananias who, with his wife,Sapphira, sold some property. He brought part of the money to the apostles, but he claimed it was the full amount. His wife had agreed to this deception. Then Peter said, "Ananias,why has Satan filled your heart? You lied to the Holy Spirit, and you kept some of the money for yourself. The property was yours to sell or not sell, as you wished. And after selling it, the money was yours to give away. How could you do a thing like this? You weren't lying to us but to God." As soon as Ananias heard these words, he fell to the floor and died. Everyone who heard about it was terrified. Then some young men wrapped him in a sheet and took him out and buried him. About three hours later his wife came in, not knowing what had happened.Peter asked her, "Was this the price you and your husband received for your land?" "Yes," she replied, "that was the price." And Peter said, "How could the two of you even think of doing a thing like this – conspiring together to test the Spirit of the Lord? Just outside that door are the young men who buried your husband, and they will carry you out, too." Instantly, she fell to the floor and died. When the young men came in and saw that she was dead, they carried her out and buried her beside her husband. Great fear gripped the entire church and all others who heard what had happened.

Ananias lied...yes we agreed but
Who killed Ananias and his wife for lying.. peter? God? it is not possible for them to just fall down and die juss like that.

Tell me who killed them for lying to God?

have you ever come across the following verses of the bible.?

(2 Kings 2:23-24 NAB)
From there Elisha went up to Bethel. While he was on his way, some SMALL boys came out of the city and jeered at him. "Go up baldhead," they shouted, "go up baldhead!" The prophet turned and saw them, and he cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two shebears came out of the woods and tore FORTY TWO of the children to pieces.

SMH ^^...what kinda God is this

1 Samuel 18:25-27
Then Saul said, “Thus shall you say to David, ‘The king desires no bride-price except a hundred FORESKINS of the Philistines ,that he may be avenged of the king’s enemies.’” Now Saul hought to make David fall by the hand of the Philistines. And when his servants told David these words, it pleased David well to be the king’s son-in-law. Before the time had expired,David arose and went, along with his men, and killed two hundred of the Philistines. And David brought their FORESKINS,which were given in full number to the king, that he might become the king’s son-in-law. And Saul gave him his daughter Michal for a wife.

Buybull god Choosen people at work.
I hope you know the meaning of FORESKIN?


Hosea, chapter 13, verse 16 (chapter 14, verse 1 in some translations):
"Samaria will be made waste, for she has gone against her God: they will be cut down by the sword, their little children will be broken on the rocks, their women who are with child will be cut open."

SMH...this is just 3 out of abt 1000+ in the inspired word of The buybull god. the problem with you guys is that you dont read your buybull thoroughly on your own. you only go to church and hold on to passages ur pastor preach about, only for you to stumble on an anti islamic website and copy there hogwash about the Quran, thereby displaying to us your dumpkopf brain. smh.

Please read the bible thoroughly before comin here to school us on the Quran.

tag: malvisguy212, Francistony.

lanrexlan: Yorubas will say ''Omo ko mowe,Iya re ni akosile re danmoran,kini a n wi,kini o n wi?'' roughly translated 'A child is intellectually dull and drab and his mother said his handwriting is legible.What's the correlation?'
AlBaqir,please for the sake of Allah stop replying gullible goons on NL,it only lowers one's IQ.

Hmmm....word for thought

FAKe News

Qur'an 2:155 And We will surely test you with something of fear and hunger and a loss of wealth and lives and fruits, but give good tidings to the patient,

mogentle: You are an slowpoke. Bring out the evidence or just Shut your gutter mouth. It's your type that confuses the govt. Why has no member of APC been arrested of a link to BH after several arrest? You are a disgrace to the ruling govt with this role you are playing.

Dont mind that e-diot jare

jerseyboy: If only they can keep this to themselves and leave Christians out of it.

Since muslims are not human beings..?

I fear for this country

KANO (AFP) – Suicide bombers attacked two mosques in Yobe state late Tuesday killing at least six people and injuring several others, witnesses told AFP blaming the Boko Haram Islamists.

The first explosion rocked an open air mosque belonging to a Shiite Muslim sect in the Dogo Tebo area of the town of Potiskum around 7:55 pm (1855 GMT) leaving four people dead.

The second blast five minutes later at a mosque within the compound of the chief imam in the town’s Anguwar Bolawa area killed at least two worshippers.

“A suicide bomber we believe was from Boko Haram blew himself up at the open air mosque used by Shiites which they name Saqafa shortly after saying their evening prayers there,” witness Balarabe Dahiru said.

“We took four dismembered bodies of the victims to the hospital along with five others who were injured,” said Dahiru who was sitting outside his house when the blast happened.

The body of the suicide bomber was left untouched by residents in protest, he said.

Resident Awwal Maikusa who gave a similar account said a second blast occurred five minutes later. “They are obviously the handiwork of Boko Haram,” Maikusa said of the two attacks.

“We were trying to deal with the suicide blast in our neighbourhood when a second explosion was heard which we l later learnt was from the chief imam’s compound,” he said.

A suicide bomber went inside the mosque while Muslim faithful were saying their evening prayer, said Sheriff Abdullahi who lives in the area.

“There was a loud explosion moments after the suicide bomber entered the mosque,” Abdullahi said. “I saw two dead bodies whom I recognized being taken out of the mosque,” he said.

The town was locked down by soldiers following the attacks, with residents ordered to remain indoors.

Potiskum, Yobe state’s commercial hub, has been the scene of repeated deadly Boko Haram attacks in the last four years although they have become rarer in recent months.

www.vanguardngr.com/2014/07/suicide-bombers-hit-two-mosques-yobe/

AlBaqir: akhi you waka follow sultan? Hope u no commit "kafara" o.

Eid Mubarak.

My brother...we don enter one chance ooo

striktlymi: You are very correct. I observe a measure disconnect between the core practices of the 'terrorist' groups and the tenets of Islam.

You always on point sire.

Reasonable people like you are exiguous in existence..

Thumbs up

Yeeepa

Macelliot: What is so Vague?
Isaiah 7:4 says - The LORD GOD shall give you a great sign; A virgin shall bear a child and His name shall be called Immanuel meaning (God with Us)

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Luke 1:27-28 - Angel Gabriel appeared to Mary and greeted her saying, "Mary, you are full of grace, the LORD is with you."
Luke 1:29-32 - Mary was deeply worried, and Angel Gabriel said to her, "Mary You have found favour with God, you shall have a child and will call him JESUS, He will be great and shall be called, the Son of the Most High " - Luke 1:29-32

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After Angel Gabriel appeared to Mary, He(Gabriel) again appeared in a dream to Joseph(mary's husband to be) because Joseph wanted to cancel the wedding between Him and Mary when He(joseph) found out the Mary was pregnant....
Matthew 1:20-23 - Angel Gabriel told Joseph, "do not fear for Mary shall bear a Son and you shall call him JESUS{ Jehovah(God) saves} for this is the fulfilment of the prophesy of the Prophet saying, A Young Virgin shall brings forth a child and He will be IMMANUEL(God with Us) because He will free His People from Sin " - Matthew 1:20-23.

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If you still claim this was not refering to Jesus, then who again was born of a Virgin?
Who was it reffering To?
Perhaps, I think it is refering to either you (Omonuan) or your Jihadist OP at the top, Rilwayne001....
God bless!!! Shallom!!!

You are derailing mr. man

malvisguy212: alright mr reporter, bring it on, one down 100 to go.

Which one is down

You never seize to make me laff boi.

malvisguy212: you have not address the issue about all muslims is in hell.abi make I resurrect the thread?

You must have missed the last post on the thread...

Even the op admits that he need to study the verse very well, go there now and check my replies. then come back here and tell me what else you wish to know, and i will answer you here. i am sticking to my word not to follow or comment of the thread again.

So in other for us not to derail this thread, you can open a thread for discussion.. then invite me with the topis name..


Dnt derail this one okay, debunk the op or better still shut ur mouth or else i will report you to the mod. and u know wah dat means..

malvisguy212: empty vessel.

Full vessel **mu

Dont worry, the analysis continue later 2day

malvisguy212: [s] you don't have anytin to say, all muslim are in hell.

Check how satan disguise himself as Allah deceive you guys.
It is stated in the Quran, That they said (in their boast), "We killed the Messiah Isa (Jesus) son of Maryam (Mary), The Messenger of Allah"- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety They killed him not-Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise- Q 4:157-158.

NOW LET ANALYSE THIS VERSE: Most Muslims believe this to mean that
Jesus Christ never died but Allah made it
appear to the people that he had been
died. Most Muslims believe he was raised
to Heaven without being put on the cross
and God transformed another person to appear exactly like Jesus who was
crucified instead of Jesus. This causes
some serious problems that need to be
addressed. If Allah tricked people into
believing Jesus was died then this
means that Allah started Christianity by his own deception, and He allowed
Christians to be deceived. The whole
foundation of the Christian faith is rested
on death of Jesus. The historical reality
of Jesus death is an essential of the
Christian faith. Without Jesus death his resurrection becomes irrelevant, and
without the resurrection Christianity
itself is rendered meaningless, i.e. 1 Corinthians 15:14 "and if Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is vain, your faith also is vain." According to history hundreds of thousands of
Christians--men, women, and children--
were tortured and killed for their faith in
Christianity. This means that Allah
started Christianity and allowed
thousands of people to give their life for something that was all a deception. From what I've studied, the Qur’an
states that a prophet cannot lie (deceive
another by implication). So, here's
something that I have yet to hear
apologetics on. Allah is proclaimed to be
truthful in all things. Yet, many Muslims believe that Allah saved Jesus from the
death of the cross and will confirm that
Allah only made it look as if Jesus died. Now, if I led a person to believe one
thing, then did something else, it would
be counted as deception on my part. I
would have deceived a person, which
causes them to believe a lie and creates
a stumbling block. If we (humans) are held to present the
truth at all times, then why would Allah
be permitted to deceive mankind
through the faked death of Jesus on the
cross? I just find this to create an
inconsistency in the character represented of Allah. [/s]

mtsheew

FrancisTony: Would be back later.

okay sir

FrancisTony: See how you disgraced yourself here or the man you copied from. Probably an anti-christ.

It doesn't mean they were only four women.
Other in that context means there was three women with more than two other women. Probably 3, 4, 5 etcetra

Luke mentioned three women with others meaning he doesn't know other womens name or he probably didn't bother because they are not necessary.

While Mark didn't want to mention others. It doesn't mean there wasn't others.

Other Mary in that context means there was Mary Salome and Mary mother of james. It doesn't equate them to only two people.

Birdbrain! John only wanted to use 'Mary Magdalene' since she was the only significant one among them all.

Corinthians only omitted that part brahhh! Get a life

Another d*** friend of mine ..

Btw..e be like say u missed that why move the stone? part

malvisguy212: shake? For waiting nah? This topic as been clear but you will never agree.


You called that verse from the quran trash? So Allah reveal trash, thank you for calling it trash.
You need more?

After the death and resurrection of jesus christ, Allah waited for 600yrs to say to an arabian man that jesus did not die,THE DEVIL IS A LIAR.

i dont have your time mister...you are just too d***

weird

for the ladies

Influence01: Click like if you believe the disease won't come to stay in lagos ...We are one!!

Bros.. you no get ***** ooo

malvisguy212: you never do masterpiece analysis on the decree, all muslim will go to hell fire, na crucifix they worried you.

Why u come dey shake now?

actually, i'm not done with the analysis, this is just a tip of an iceberg.

malvisguy212: Surah 19:71: "It is the inevitable decree of your Lord that every one of you will be taken to hell."(Sarwar).

Trashed..