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yazach:
This man
So shedding blood is the solution

dont mind that guy jaree...always spewin nonsenze

tintingz: end shall never wonder.

and vice versa

wonders shall never end

FrancisTony: LOL! Tough ke? Go to Unilorin aspirant thread and you'll be seeing 86, 76, 82, 78 etc They passed wella.

Out of the 50questions, 40 were eng and the rest is Maths, bio and current affair like I heard.

Your friend basically didn't prepare well fa or maybe he's not good in English.

actually he is good, bt i dont know what actually happened

rationalmind: Look at how you conveniently pull the bolded out of your a.s.s.

Let's ignore that.

What was that clear proof they saw but didn't believe?

Lastly why is Allah so obsessed with what people believe or not? Does it boost his ego knowing people believe him?

Mtsheeew

malvisguy212: 2 Thessalonians 2:10-1321st Century King James Version (KJ21) 10 and with all the deceit of unrighteousness in those who perish,
because they received not the love of the
truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe
a lie, 12 that they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure
in unrighteousness. 13 But we are bound to give thanks always to God for you, brethren, beloved
of the Lord, because God hath from the
beginning chosen you for salvation,
through sanctification by the Spirit and
belief in the truth.

Is this hard for you to understand? What a shame, so this is how you read the quran?

Mtshewww

FrancisTony: Allah is gonna make them deaf and dumb and torment them.

Simple allegory, you dont know

Blame your secondary school teachers of UMukoro Community Grammar School for this ..

Mtsheeew

Where is the link now?

FrancisTony: ..and you didn't quote verse10 before making jest of yourself?

Verse10 ...and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

So, in chapter11, them was used!

And for this reason, God will send them strong delusion.

God was speaking about people who doesn't want to believe in truth in verse10.

Verse11 now spoke about sending them delusion.

Try again later "MR".

And whats the different between the verse and the below verse.
Surah Al-Baqara, Verse 6-7
As for the Disbelievers, Whether thou warn them or thou warn them not it is all one for them; they believe not. Allâh has set a seal on their hearts and on their hearings, (i.e. they are closed from accepting Allâh's Guidance), and on their eyes there is a covering. Theirs will be a great torment"

FrancisTony: Are you finding it had to comprehend simple english language?

And for this reason, God will send them delusion Was it not sent before they believed? Or am I not getting what you're implying?

The strong delusion sent by the bible god is gradually affecting you ,

better still you are trying to divert the verse to somwhere else..

The bible god actually send strong delusion..not small oo, not normal oo, but strong delusion to people so that they may believe what is false in other for him to punish them..?? what kinda god is this?

beejaay: let me add

Quran 2 vs 7 said " Allâh has set a seal on their hearts and on their hearings, (i.e. they are closed from accepting Allâh's Guidance), and on their eyes there is a covering. Theirs will be a great torment"

That was because they didnt believe despite seeing the clear proof...and what if he never cover there eyes would they still believe?

beejaay: u covered their hearts and hearings and u are blaming them for not believing again, what kind of BENEFICENT BEING does that??

2 Thessalonians 2:11-12 English
Standard Version (ESV)
Therefore God sends them a strong DELUSIONS, so that they may believe what is FALSE, in order that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

They believed before your god sent them delusions in other for him to punish them...what kimd of benefient god is this bible god..uhn?

Kindly tell me who is more violent between the bible god and Allah?

Tag: malvisguy212, francistony

FrancisTony: Qur'an (8:12)-"Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instill terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks andsmite all their fingertips off them."

The fact that you make such claims shows your lack of knowledge on Islam, and that you should really study Islam with an open heart rather than visiting anti-Islamic sites, and read anti-Islamic books and believe everything they tell you.

To begin, this verse is referring to a SPECIFIC BATTLE, this verse is not an order on Muslims, and this verse is talking about a battle that took place. The battle it is referring to is the battle of Badr.

Al-Maududi's introduction to this Surah writes:

Name
The Surah takes its name AL-ANFAL (The Bounties) from the first verse...

It was revealed in 2 A. H. after the Battle of Badr, the first battle between Islam and kufr. As it contains a detailed and comprehensive review of the Battle, it appears that most probably it was revealed at one and the same time. But it is also possible that some of the verses concerning the problems arising as a result of this Battle might have been revealed later and incorporated at the proper places to make it a continuous whole. At any rate, in the whole Surah there is nothing that might show that it is a collection of a couple of discourses, that have been patched up together.
www.englishtafsir.com/Quran/8/index.html


So as you can see, these events were taking place during a battle. Now off course during a battle in those days you would aim for the neck to get an immediate blow, and off course you would also aim for their fingers, once taking out their fingers the enemy would not be able to carry his sword hence you neutralize the enemy.

So there is nothing barbaric or mean about these verses, it is simply referring to a battle, and nothing barbaric was done in the battle neither these were how battles were fought back then.

I will answer you questiojs one after the other....

And hope you are ready to defend that of the bible?

FrancisTony: Qur'an (5:33)-"The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified ortheir hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides..."

The verse above is talking about enemy who has treacherous designs against the Muslims, there is a punishment that he must face as shown in the verse article. Those "treacherous designs" are the tricky and deceiving evil actions such as causing a war between the Muslims and other non-Muslim tribes by using tricks and deceptions. Another example is when some of the hypocrites during Prophet Muhammad's times used to falsely embrace Islam to be accepted among the Muslims, and then later try to create conflicts among Muslim men and cause them to revenge from each others, because they belonged to tribes that had bloody wars with each others before they embraced Islam.

There are times when Muslims must accept no captives. This is the time when the Muslims are ordered to punish the enemy severely.

So what are those times where Muslims must not accept any captive?

The first incident is when the Muslims were just starting Islam in Madina. Along with the Muslims there, there were some Christians and three big Jewish tribes: Bani Al-natheer, Bani Qaynuqaa, and Bani Quraytha. When the Pagans of Mecca wanted to end Islam once and for all, they finally agreed along with several other Pagan tribes out side Mecca to attack the Muslims in Madina.

Prior to this, the Muslims had already signed a treaty of united defense of Madina with the Jews. When the Pagans of Mecca and their allies finally started marching to Madina, the Muslims became aware of it. One of our beloved Prophet's close companions, Salman Al-Farisi (may Allah Almighty be pleased with him, rest his soul and grant him Paradise),suggested that the Muslims should dig a big trench to along all of the plain areas of Madina to disable the Pagans from attacking the Muslims.

The Jews' tribes were stationed in the North side of Madina. They didn't need to dig any trench because they had such high mountains that they could easily defend by stationing their troops on top of the mountains, which would then disable the Pagans from entering Madina from the North. But the Jews will always remain Jews no matter what. They betrayed our Prophet and told the Pagans that they could attack them from the North along with the Jewish army. Allah Almighty had blessed the Muslims with a big victory after long battles and Allah Almighty's blessings of the winds that blocked the eye sights of the enemies of Islam.

After the Pagans withdrew back to Mecca, our.Prophet peace be upon him executed Noble Verse 5:33 and exiled Bani! Quraytha, the first Jewish tribe to betray the Muslims, from Madina. Later on, the other two Jewish tribes were exiled too.

FrancisTony: LOL! Allah atrocities in qu'ran and the one he is still doing is alarming.

I'd rather be an atheist than be a muslim.

Allah never caused any atrocities in the Quran (you can bring the verse and i am ready to teach you only if you will learn)

rather the bible god caused countless atrocities in the bible, (do you want to know them)

the problem with you guys is that you dont read your bible well

Bleep phyno and those who likes his wack songs



#TeamBGEL

FrancisTony: Don't worry.

Okay sir..

Unbias: 3 Because the writter was not the biblical Banabas and his teachings follow after the teachings of Muhammad and Islam which contradict the teachings of Jesus Christ. Imams use it a lot and it will fit in the Quran as another Sura, I suggest we call it Surat Al-forgery.

una no go kill pessin

FrancisTony: I was about believing the whole shiit written by OP not until I saw the bolded. Try again later dear

I know you are a muslim trying to promote islamic religion.






Btw, Jesus never spoke Aramiac. He's a jewish by origin and his name is 'Yehoshua'(a jewish name)

He even read Torah in the temple(a book written in jew).

Mary is never an Aramiac. Your Mariam and holy Mary is a two different woman. Because in the bible, the name Mary is entirely different from Mariam(Moses sister).



Rilwayne001

Wassup

Any reason for calling me?

Rendezvou: [b] They had no problem with him and his Islam but had problem with him wooing their people and turning them away from polytheism.

He was not woooing the mr. man, how does preaching means wooing? those who find him to be preaching the truth embraced islam. Bur your people out of anger killed and tortured them to death.
** Yasir ibn Amir – was tortured and killed.
** Bilal ibn Ribah – was laid on burning sand, had a very heavy stone put on his chest with somebody jumping on it.
and so on like that.

After all this torture and persecution could not stop there people converting to islam. That was when they now declare war on the muslims and chased them out of mecca.

Rendezvou: He was the one who started aggresive campaign against their gods and belief. See, the point here is that he was the achitect of the enmity that ensued as he tried to force his new faith down their throats. I hope you know he later achieved this.

Any prove for this