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Maynman:
You so much love your soul you are worshipping cannanite Yahweh. Bwahahahah
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahwism

I know whom I worship.

Maynman:
Then why are You cherry picking?

Many books were in circulation at the time of the dead sea scrolls.

What matters to us in the Lord whom we have met. Nothing else matters. We've met the Lord.

Maynman:
I’m still waiting to bring your own facts where Bible is older than Dead Sea scrolls
And essence wrote the Dead Sea scrolls, I’m waiting

Keep waiting.

If you love your soul. Do the needful to rid yourself of deception.

Maynman:
And the Dead Sea scroll is older than the masoteric text and the tanakh

What matters is the Person whom we have met, whom they world does not know.

Books are written by men. Only God gives an encounter.

Maynman:
And when was the tanakh that Torah is just a part of was written?

Answer your own question. Bring out your facts.

Maynman:
And you read all these from the masoteric text, hope you know? Bwahahahah

I have not only read. I have seen. I have handled. And that which I have possessed, no man can take away.

Maynman:
Counter what?
You don’t even know what Torah or Tanakh is.


Flavius Josephus and Pliny were contemporaries of Dead Sea scrolls in what century?

Contemporaries of the Essenes is not the same as contemporaries of dead sea scrolls.

Learn to read with understanding.

The Essenes are a group that lived over an extended period of time. The dead sea scrolls were written at a specific time in history.

Maynman:
The Bible you have now is gotten from masoteric text. Bwahahahah

I already told you our faith stands in the person of the Lord Jesus with whom we have an encounter and a continuous relationship. Our faith is not on any text or scroll.

Maynman:
I already did.
What year was the Dead Sea scrolls written? And you said Torah was written millennial ahead of it.
Flavius Josephus and Pliny were contemporaries of Dead Sea scrolls in what century?

Bring out your facts to counter what I said. I've already answered all your questions.

Maynman:
Really?
Show me where you read that Moses lived 3000/4000 years ago, and he wrote the torah
What year was the Dead Sea scrolls written? And you said Torah was written millennial ahead of it.
Flavius Josephus and Pliny were contemporaries of Dead Sea scrolls in what century?

Let’s see how low you can go for your deity.

Dispute it if you can.

Maynman:
When was the Torah written you said Moses lived 4000 years ago right? And Moses wrote the Torah?

The 4000yrs ago mentioned is my personal estimate. Moses live between 3000 and 4000yrs ago, that's why I used the word 'about'.

The Torah was written in Moses's lifetime. Joshua, Moses's immediate successor alluded to it in Joshua 1:8:

"This Book of the Law shall not depart from your mouth, but you shall meditate on it day and night, so that you may be careful to do according to all that is written in it."

This statement made by Joshua was made after Moses's death.

Maynman:
When was the Torah written?
Where is the original Torah now?
Don’t forget you said Moses lived 4000 years ago,

The original Torah was not just a book. There were copies of the book in circulation throughout Israel's history.

Your question is like asking, where is the original Nigerian constitution?
The Torah was Israel's Theocratic Constitution.

Maynman:
The book you call bible now is gotten from masoteric text.
Yahwism is the foundation of Judaism.
Moses lives 4000 years ago, when was the Torah written?

The Torah was written as an account detailing the activities of Moses and Israel from Egypt to mount Pisgah. It could be written directly by Moses or by Joshua at the instruction of Moses.

However, it predates the dead sea scrolls by millennials.

Maynman:
Judaism comes from Christianity, are you this dull?
Essenes penned down writing known as Dead Sea scrolls? WHAT?
What time did Moses live?

All these lies to defend your deity?

Did I even mention Judaism in my posts? You must be hearing that from demons.

Judaism predateṣ Christianity for your information. It's the foundation for Christianity.

The Essenes wrote what they wrote on the dead sea scrolls on the basis of what they knew of Judaism, coupled with what they believed as a sect.

Or you want me to begin to educate you about the dead sea scrolls written by the Essenes who lived as a separatist religious sect in Qumran? I'll furnish you with details from Flavius Josephus and Pliny the Elder who were contemporaries of the writers of the dead sea scrolls. In the end you'll see how ignorant you are, and begin to shudder at the folly of believing so much in a lie.

Moses lived about 4000yrs ago. The Essenes were a minority sect who opposed the teachings of the Pharisees and Sadducees.

We know what we believe. The evidences of His Presence is here for all to see.

Maynman:
The Bible existed before Dead Sea scrolls?
Bwahahah

You are duller than I thought , this is the ignorance Christians carry around, I’m glad

Hahaha. The first book of the Bible is Genesis. The first 5 books called the Torah were written by Moses who lived a long time before the Essenes penned down their writings now known as the dead sea scrolls.

Now, tell me, which existed before which?

Maynman:
You are the one suffering from blatantly ignorance.
I’ll send you a link to Read where your cannanite Yahweh comes from. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahwism


Your deity followers were killed like chicken in your deity house, you still have excuse, what brainwashing can’t do, I never see.

You have grace until you die, those owo worshippers also thought they have grace, the same way you are claiming it now

You're blind my brother. Very blind spiritually and deceived.

The Bible has existed before the dead sea scrolls. We do not hang our faith on the scrolls. Infact, we do not hang our faith an any book. Books are merely for guidance. Our faith hangs in the Lord JESUS.

And those of us who have met Him have a different story.

I'll send you the e-book I previously mentioned if you oblige. And I hope you'll oblige if only you love your soul.

Maynman:
My Theos

I pray that common sense delivers you.
Satan is a title, your Yahweh aka yaldaboath is the head of Satans in the mythology, he’s one of the fallen watchers.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watcher

Your religion comes from Dead Sea scroll, seems one has to be intentionally dumb to be a Christian, if you say you’ve moved pass dead seas scrolls you are saying you have moved past the BIBLE. Is that so?

Spirit means “breathe” it’s because of your brainwashing and indoctrination that you think it’s something mysterious.
Yahweh your saviour, is a cannanite deity, and he has parents, Elohim and asheerah.
Guess your shepherd haven’t taught you, sheep?

You have tasted yahweh power, the same one that those owo worshippers tasted? Before those ones were killed, they also foolishly claim they have GRACE, where are they now today? You are also toeing that path!

Hahaha, there lies you deep seated ignorance. Surely, you've been fed with lies from the devil.

If you oblige, I'll give you a book titled "Occult Grandmaster Now in Christ."- A confession of a renown occultist who had written many occultic journals in the dailies before he was apprehended by Christ.

As for the Ọwọ episode to which you made an allusion, you are too ignorant, and you must seel knowledge before demons will ruin your life. But I'll want you to understand that religion is useless to God. Almost everybody is practising religion, but those who have vivid encounters with grace and power are very few. One in a million. Very negligibly few!

I pray the Lord will have mercy on your soul. You're definitely a prey right now, but it's a pity, you're too blind to see.

ifex370:
You quoted the wrong person.

However, the person you might wish to quote does not ask questions seeking to learn, but rather asks so he can disprove.

That's why I stopped replying. For those people, they already have decided their fate.

Okay. Thank you. But I quoted both you and him because I wanted to partner you in disproving his satanic ideologies.

ifex370:
Well, you know better than I do. I guess.

ifex370, the rest is symbolic of the rest that God would give to the saints after all their toils in this world. It does not imply that God was tired but He communicated to man that rest is in God's plan for him.

Hebrews 4'3

"For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world."

Please read the entire chapter 4 of Hebrews for better understanding.

Hebrews 4:9
There remains therefore a rest for the people of God.

These are deep things of the Spirit.

Maynman:
So your shepherd brainwashing of you flocks is so deep like this, huh sheep?
If you’ve have any idea about your religion you won’t be displaying ignorance here.
And “Satan” is a title, monolatrist you’ve been scammed!

My God!

I pray that the Lord will deliver you.

Satan is not a title. He's a fallen angel. We bind him everyday and cast out his demons.

Brainwashing? We're talking about supernatural encounters! You can only say that to someone who has not met Jesus.

Infact, Churches don't brainwash. They only teach, allow you ask questions, and leave the rest to your decision.

Next time you want to use the word Brainwashing, understand that it only pertains to Islam.

Yeah, I'm proud to be His sheep. You could be proud to be Satan's goat too. However, except you repent, you would end up in the same horrible eternity with satan. His end is everlasting fire.

Are you talking about the dead sea scrolls? We have gone beyond that. We've met Jesus. We've tasted His power. We are partakers of His grace. Our faith does not stand in any scroll. We've met the Lord Himself.

Acts 4:20:
"For we cannot but speak the things which we have seen and heard.”

It's beyond hearing. We've touched. We've seen. We've met the Lord.

We appreciate Him for counting us worthy.

Maynman:
Elohim is the father of Yahweh.

He didn’t know what the result will be before he did it? It was after he did it and saw that it was good and he was satisfied to it. Seems that was the first time your god was experiencing light.

Chai!!

So Satan's deception is so deep like this?

Can you imagine such a nauseating reasoning from a complete human being?

Maynman:
Seems it was Elohim that created where Yahweh lived before.
Even in that genesis verse, “he created light and saw that it was good”, an all knowing god will already know if it was good or not, and not waiting for reaction.

Hilarious!

The sane Elohim is Yahweh.

God saw that it was good means, He appraised His works, and was satisfied with the result.

Redomi:
Tell tlme the name, I mean the name of the location. If other planet could have name, give us the name

Deuteronomy 28:29
The secret things belong to God, but the things that are revealed are for us and our children.

What's the importance of the name.

It's the same way you know I'm in Nigeria but you done know the name of my location since I refuse to share it.

We would understand it better when we meet Him someday beyond the Blues.

Redomi:
I'm not here to argue with anyone, I just want to know something, this is beyond me

He sure was living somewhere in His vast universe before He decided to carve out a heaven and an earth out of it.

Rashduct4luv:
I see no flaw! How many of the companions were literate? How many of them know the Torah or Injeel? Truth would always look false to whom is inclined to falsehood. Stop making claims you can't substantiate with proofs.

You have confirmed Jesus didn't start Christianity. It was actually named by unknown individuals who were faithless. So if Jesus didn't institute any religion, why did you institute a religion name by non-christians? Christianity is the religion named by disbelievers!

Jesus started no religion, wrote no book, told nobody to write your Bible. It is evident that Mark and Luke were not even disciples.

It is Common knowledge that the compilers of the Bible Books are unknown. Many people wrote many things as to what they thought happened and some changed it to how they wanted it to have happened. How can Paul's letters be in circulation before the four Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John? Paul that did not even meet Jesus physically had to write about 14 out 27 Books of the New Testament! This shows how dubious the Bible authors are! Even the author of Hebrews is debatable. Mark was written about 40 yrs after Jesus.
Even if you were to write the story of your best friend 40 years after he died, i bet you'll certainly write "nonsense".

Of whose business is all this? 2 Timothy was written close to about 70yrs Jesus died. It still amaze me why Mark's Book was the first Gospel written about 40yrs after Jesus and Paul's letter was much around earlier.


John's revelation was almost the last of the Bible to be written close to 100CE. That's why it contains much incredible stories and descriptions.



Luke has exposed you already that they wrote from eyewitness account and no Holy Spirit was involved. Many people wrote. Some had to select what they want you to believe. Who were the eyewitnesses? How trustworthy are they?
Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us, just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. With this in mind, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, I too decided to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught. Luke 1:1-4



So you have to rely on what an ex-muslim says? Can i relate what an ex-Christian say to you?
All Prophets serve Allah in whatever language they speak to their people. The God Moses introduced to the Israelite is Allah. It is not Jesus + Father + Spirit= One. No Prophet preached this anywhere even in the whole Bible.

The same lies Christian peddle that Allah is an idol. Even the description of Allah in the Qur'an is enough to prove you a liar. You just copy all what some Christians say without sense. Arabs were idolators and no idol was ever named Allah. All their gods have names.
But they still believed in Allah as the supreme God without representation. How can you lie that Muhammad elevated his father's idol to Allah? So why would Muhammad say his father will be in Hell? You are a liar!

Bring it and let us disprove you! I will definitely be glad to expose your Holy Spirit as a liar here.

God is not the author of confusion!

Man, stop deceiving yourself, or may I say, avoid getting deceived.

All the writers of the Bible are well known people. Mark was a cousin of Barnabas, a companion of Paul. Luke was a disciple of Paul, and a popular doctor in his day.

As I said, almost all writers of the Bible didn't write for religious purposes. They wrote only to provide guidance and education to their audiences. They wrote the truth as they knew it and died for it, even denying the opportunity to recant and be spared of martyrdom. This is quiet different from Mohammed who singlehandedly penned down a book about another nation's prophets and history with all plagiarism while passing it off as a revelation from God. This is a clear attempt to deceive people and block them from accessing the truth.

Islam was founded mainly to attack the gospel of salvation that Jesus brought. If there had been no Christianity, believe you me, there wouldn't have been anything called Islam!

The whole frame of the quoran is a distortion of Israel's history and Christian beliefs. You Muslims even believe that Mohammed had a better grip on Israel's history and prophets than the Israelites themselves. Isn't that delusional?

Did you just blasphem against the Holy Ghost, saying the Holy Ghost lies? That's an unforgiveable sin. It's between you and God.

But, I'll tell you that you cannot disparage the Holy Ghost without disparaging the quoran because most of the writings in the quoran were taken from the Bible. Some quranic writings were even plagiarized word for word. Moreso, in the begining of Mohammed's early deceptive ministry, he directly instructed you his followers to hold the 'People of the Book (Christians and Jews)' in high esteem.

You can't know the truth until you read the Bible and quoran with a mind devoid of biases.

I can pull out so many fallacies including historic and scientific blunders from the Quran that completely erodes its claims on divinity.

Search the truth and hold it firmly once you find it.

May the Lord have mercy on your soul.

Mooh247:




I wish Jagaban can retain Amaechi as Transportation Minister, Dave Umahi as Minister of Works and Osinbajo as the Antorney General

Kashim Shettima SGF

Babatunde Raji Fashola Cheif of staff

Mallam El'Rufai Minister of Housing

Nyemsom Wike Minister for Niger Delta affiars (if he decamps)

Umar Ganduje Minister for Special Duties


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Osibanjo can't hold any position again accept that of President.

BluntCrazeMan:
About Network Connectivity, let's continue to watch the system.
INEC really wanted to get it right this time.
Let's continue to watch them, and at the same time, continue to support them

Truly they intend to get it right. Rome actually wasn't built in a day; they've made an excellent and bold start already. We'll support them and leave the rest to God.

Rashduct4luv:
Many people where witnesses to some the revelation as there were scribes writing down/memorising the Qur'an. His wife Khadijah, Aaishah, Waraqah ibn Nawfal (a Christian) and many of his companions! Can you tell us who were the eyewitness Matthew, Mark, Luke, John others got their account from? I know Jesus didn't write the New testament. And it's doubtful others wrote it.

Can you mention the names of the Scribes? how was the Pentateuch preserved from generation to generation? Who were the copyists? What were the names of the compilers of the Bible Books? Why are there many translations of the Bible? Why does some Bible have 73 Books while most others 66? Can you mention the names of those who partake in the council of nicea and what were the conclusions as regard the Bible?



Matthew 9:9
The Calling of Matthew
As Jesus went on from there, he saw a man named Matthew sitting at the tax collector’s booth. “Follow me,” he told him, and Matthew got up and followed him.

The verse should have been like this:
As Jesus went on from there, he saw me (Matthew) sitting at the tax collectors Booth. "Follow me," he told me and i got up and followed him.

And who are the "We" that are testifying to what John wrote?

He would have been a superman to have done that. Your Bible was compiled as it is today after the Qur'an.
Can you explain how an unlettered man did that without google in just 23 years?

1. You can already see the flaws. Mohammed has access to the Bible, and many literate people were around him. These so called witnesses look like conspirators to me.

Now. Let me explain certain things to you about the Bible.

First, Jesus didn't institute any religion. His followers simply referred to themselves as disciples. It was unbelievers who named them Christians, meaning 'Christlike'. They did the things Jesus did and exhibited godly characters like Him, hence, the people called them Christians.

Now, since there was no religion, there also was no need to create a religious book. Each of the new testament books were written by the authors as letters to friends, group of friends or churches. The subject of the writings was to clarify the thoughts about whom Jesus is or what followers of Christ must do to live a godly life.

Many of those books were written in the midst of severe persecutions. For instance, Most of Paul's letters were written while he was in prison. He wrote 2Timithy at a time when he was sentenced to death.

John wrote the book of Revelation while he was left to die on the Island of Patmos, far away from all known civilizations.

Each individual author wrote the truth as they knew it. Their writings are considered God breathed because they were moved by His Holy Spirit to write them. That doesn't mean they wrote what God dictated. They wrote by inspiration. Their knowledge, experiences and personal thoughts are used by God to bless others. God still uses people's knowledge and experiences to bless others today.

Now, did any prophet of Israel serve Allah? No! Otherwise, Moses would then have introduced Allah to the Israelites. Then, Judaism would be practice Allah worship. Allah is actually an idol. It's one of the 366 idols of Mecca. Mohammed's father was its priest, and so Mohammed elevated his father's idol. An ex-muslim made a clarification in the video below:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nk66U-IMI9g

There are so many flaws in the quoran that proves that Allah isn't God. You only need to be conversant with Israel's history, and science and then read the quoran with an open mind to detect the lies.

Now, the Bible sure has different English translations because the original languages of the Bible - Hebrew and Greek are both complex languages. English on the other hand is always evolving. Each Bible verse says the same things in a different way to give more meaning and understanding to the reader.

Some Bibles have more books because some Christians believe that all collected pieces of writings claiming to be God's word are Devine, while some Christians believe that some books were written by Charlatans. Hence, such books were removed.

Now, who wrote the Book of Matthew? Mathew himself did. He wrote it as a Biography of Jesus, and so he did all his best not to draw attention to himself.

The Book of John was written and endorsed by church leaders as a compilation of Jesus' works. The witnesses who testified to its truth were Jesus' disciples who read and verified the writings.

BluntCrazeMan:
According to your own judgement,, does this recent INEC’s guidelines do justice to that?

To an extent it would work but definitely not 100%.

Additionally, I can assure you that some IT geeks would be currently working hard to see how they would be able to hack into the system.

Moreso, rural areas where there are little or no network connectivity would constitute a big problem to this system.

M

Any Southerner that becomes President in 2023 should make it a priority to work with the legislature to return Nigeria to regional government.

Let every region manage its wealth and poverty.

rickleye:
Its a statement of fact since 1985 - Andrew don't check out o. Nigeria go better. After all these years- It's still hasn't reached rock bottom. Its a miracle

I tell you.

'E go better' has been the song of Nigerians since 1960.