Christianity Etc › Re: Slave Shackles From 1852 With Freemason Symbol Clearly Imprinted On Them by RoyalDiadems: 9:08am On Jun 23, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Funny churchgoer!
When their forefathers were accusing my Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus before Pontius Pilate Jesus never said a word {John 19:9} so there's a time to speak up as a time to be silent {Ecclesiastes 3:7} if you're interested in their stories i wish you well in your research!  It's obvious from your blabberings that what the OP said is true. The symbols are JW symbols. The rings are JW rings. Russel was indeed a Mason. Since you cannot prove these to be lies or propaganda, then, they're true. If I were you, I would do like the Berean church and examine everything to see if I have been deceived. After my findings, I'll make a decision. You can't teach me the Bible. Comparing Jesus' accusations to this freemason allegations is a gross error. Show us your symbols, let's see the rings of your leaders. Who was Russel? Which church did he come out from? Who was his spiritual mentor? What is the shape of his tomb? These are things that could declare the facts as they are. But you chose not to discuss them because they're very incriminating. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? Who Is Allah? by RoyalDiadems: 8:56am On Jun 23, 2022 |
haekymbahd: Can you post the verse and tell us how the disbelievers deceived to kill Jesus
Allah SWT said:
"And the disbelievers planned, but Allah planned. And Allah is the best of planners." (QS. Aal-i-Imraan 3: Verse 54) The word translated 'Plan' is makr. Three prominent Arabic dictionaries define Makr as deception or cheating. Even on wikiIslam, the correct translation as Makr is confirmed. Makr is not the Arabic word for Plan in any sense of the language. https://www.danielpipes.org/comments/238620 |
Christianity Etc › Re: Slave Shackles From 1852 With Freemason Symbol Clearly Imprinted On Them by RoyalDiadems: 8:50am On Jun 23, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Ọmọ don't start what you can't finish, i'm not one of those churchgoers who argue blindly on what is written in the Bible but can't apply it practically! 2Corinthians 3:6
How do you test a SPIRIT? Is it not by observing what a religion produce in the society? Matthew 7:16-18 If Satan disguise as an angel of light does that invalidate Jesus' statement that a rotten tree can never produce fine fruit?
Come on my guy, Satan can surely put up a religion where the rules will sound good to you like Deeperlife where women are told to dress like mourners and adherents are deprived of drinking alcoholic beverages but then the religion will fail woefully to produce what Jesus actually taught in the society just as i listed all the achievements of Jehovah's Witnesses organization.
So don't be carried away by what they call themselves if they can't produce what Jesus said they're under Satan who is disguising as an angel of light.
Jesus never asked you to look out for their arguments or counterargument rather he said:
“Be on the watch for the false prophets who come to you in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit. Matthew 7:15-18
If Kumuyi can't erase racism and politics from the hearts of his followers and members of Deeperlife in Ghana can pick up weapons to kill members of Deeperlife in Nigeria because of racism and politics then of what benefit is all the stupid rules he's giving them? Aren't true disciples of Christ expected to die for their fellow believers just as Jesus did for his disciples? John 13:34-35 What exactly do you think can make Jesus' true disciples raise weapons against their own fellow believers? Romans 8:35-39
Ọmọ if you're interested in their malicious lies it's a free world but if you're interested in Jesus of Nazareth then watch out for the fine WORKS of FAITH {James 2:18-26} not fabricated documents put up to blur your senses from knowing Jesus' real group! Matthew 5:11-12  Your attempt to distract me is already a failure. Present evidences against the OP. Is that too much to ask? I'll make my own research but if you have anything to debunk the OP's claims, then, present them here and stop beating around the bush. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Slave Shackles From 1852 With Freemason Symbol Clearly Imprinted On Them by RoyalDiadems: 8:00am On Jun 23, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: My guy if you want proof go out there and see for yourself what is happening, Israel is where Jesus was born, bread and brought up but if you travel there today you won't have the courage to continue considering Jesus as anything because the Jews will tell you so many things against Jesus of Nazareth.
If you love worthless arguments that's your cup of coffee {Titus 3:9} i wasn't born a JW but i believe Jesus who said:
"By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit" Matthew 7:16-18
So if you now believe that an evil tree can produce all the things we can see with our eyes then it's your choice i have chosen my own part you're also free to choose yours!  No. The Bible enjoins us to try all spirits and also makes us to understand that Satan himself disguishes as an angel of light. The matter at hand is very simple. All you need to do is to expose the OP as a liar. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? Who Is Allah? by RoyalDiadems: 7:55am On Jun 23, 2022 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Slave Shackles From 1852 With Freemason Symbol Clearly Imprinted On Them by RoyalDiadems: 7:10am On Jun 23, 2022 |
[quote author=MaxInDHouse post=114069948][/quote]My brother, this would not work.
Prove that everything the OP said are lies. |
Business › Re: How To Kill It With Cpa Marketing Finally Revealed In This Free E-book. by RoyalDiadems: 12:51am On Jun 23, 2022 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Slave Shackles From 1852 With Freemason Symbol Clearly Imprinted On Them by RoyalDiadems: 11:39pm On Jun 22, 2022 |
Janosky: Since you were born has any JW preached anything to you in consonance with the fraudulent claims of the OP you choose to believe? So, you mean I should expect a JW to preach to me that his organization is Masonic? My dear, what I need you to do is to bring evidences to the contrary. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Slave Shackles From 1852 With Freemason Symbol Clearly Imprinted On Them by RoyalDiadems: 11:27pm On Jun 22, 2022 |
Janosky: The OP you choose to believe his defamatory and libelous content has been copying the monikers of JWs to make fraudulent posts on this thread. Oga, exercise your option to deceive yourself and continue your delusion.  You're now attacking the OP instead of exposing his supposed lies. Don't you have any evidence against him? If that's the case, then you're the deluded lot. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Slave Shackles From 1852 With Freemason Symbol Clearly Imprinted On Them by RoyalDiadems: 11:11pm On Jun 22, 2022 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Slave Shackles From 1852 With Freemason Symbol Clearly Imprinted On Them by RoyalDiadems: 11:08pm On Jun 22, 2022 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Slave Shackles From 1852 With Freemason Symbol Clearly Imprinted On Them by RoyalDiadems: 11:03pm On Jun 22, 2022 |
Janosky: It Very mumu comment.
Acts11:16 are the Christians the same Group of people chosen by Jehovah God to bear his name according to Acts 15:14-17, Isaiah 43:10,21 & Matthew 12:15-18 Acts 3:13? Overwhelmingly Yes!
Oga, you and your fellow 3 deities devotees Trinitarians & polytheists , exercise your right to continue your delusion. Oga. Prove them wrong! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Slave Shackles From 1852 With Freemason Symbol Clearly Imprinted On Them by RoyalDiadems: 11:02pm On Jun 22, 2022 |
Janosky: It Very mumu comment.
Acts11:16 are the Christians the same Group of people chosen by Jehovah God to bear his name according to Acts 15:14-17, Isaiah 43:10,21 & Matthew 12:15-18 Acts 3:13? Overwhelmingly Yes!
Oga, you and your fellow 3 deities devotees Trinitarians & polytheists , exercise your right to continue your delusion. Man, I expect you to disprove the posts. Show us that what they said about your organization is a lie. Bring out tangible proofs! That's what is expected of you. Stop displaying foolishness as a result of your frustrations. I want to see comments that prove that all that was said are lies. Period! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Slave Shackles From 1852 With Freemason Symbol Clearly Imprinted On Them by RoyalDiadems: 10:56pm On Jun 22, 2022 |
Courz: At the bolded, Watchtower actually admitted that JWs are NOT part of Christendom. Christendom is Christianity. That should tell you something. Mormons and JWs are very similar in dressing, mode of worship and some doctrines. Mormons are usually mistaken to be JWs. There is a reason Most Cults are similar in system. That's because their founders are/were either freemasons or members of some Satanic Sect. Satan is smart! His strategy was to start Pseudo churches that look Christian but are not! They say if you want to know more about something or religion, go back to its inception or check their history. All Cults Whitewash their history to hide who they really are.
The sources of doctrines of the JWs are from the Occult. The Freemason JWs are the ones that formulate their doctrines through Spirit Channelling. Some doctrines of the JWs were also borrowed from the Adventists. This is quiet revealing. I myself would embark on a research to know more about these. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I Need Deliverance From Powers From Fathers' House- Help Me Please by RoyalDiadems: 10:52pm On Jun 22, 2022 |
omura: Yes, his number for Whatsapp 08153309479 and you will give God the glory Thanks a lot. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Slave Shackles From 1852 With Freemason Symbol Clearly Imprinted On Them by RoyalDiadems: 9:08pm On Jun 22, 2022 |
Courz: It is indeed. Wolves in Sheep clothing. The JW religion is a Freemason Cult disguised as a Christian one. This same Mother Cult IBSA is being run by Watchtower as we speak. They assist the JWs till date. If you want to know the real truth about JWs, find the testimonies of Freemason JWs. They will tell you everything you need to know from the inception of the Cult till now! They are the ones who own Watchtower. They are the Shareholders who have a right to owning the donations of JWs and everything else. Generally, Christian theologists classify JWs, Adventists, Mormons, etc as cultists but except for the Mormons, I usually see them as heretics. Mormons are confirmed cultists, no doubt but reading this about JWs is very shocking. No wonder, they themselves never refer to themselves as Christians. Satan is doing a very excellent job as the "Deceiver of the whole world." |
Christianity Etc › Re: Slave Shackles From 1852 With Freemason Symbol Clearly Imprinted On Them by RoyalDiadems: 8:31pm On Jun 22, 2022 |
Courz: Are you also talking about this fruitage below? Mother Cult meeting in Masonic Lodges today? Shocking!! |
Christianity Etc › Re: I Need Deliverance From Powers From Fathers' House- Help Me Please by RoyalDiadems: 7:32pm On Jun 22, 2022 |
omura: Hum, my sister I laugh when you mention MFM. If I tell you how many dry fasting I did at regional headquarter you will not be saying what you are saying.
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Politics › Re: Ike Ekweremadu: South-East Should Not Waste Their Votes On Peter Obi (video) by RoyalDiadems: 2:44pm On Jun 22, 2022 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: What Do Muslims Belief Concerning Jesus Son Of Mary (peace Be Upon Him)? by RoyalDiadems: 9:08am On Jun 22, 2022*. Modified: 9:54am On Jun 22, 2022 |
Rashduct4luv: I am aware and not deceived. No
Who is Luke? Who is Mark from the Bible? I keep asking you to mention the names of the compilers of your Bible from the first time it was compiled. Who were the copyists from generations gone by? Why was Paul's letter first in circulation before the first four Gospels? All this are shrouded in mystery.
Not really! Many people were writing and they too decided to write based on what they heard others say and write. We all know that the Gospel writers copied one another. It is clear in the four Gospels.
Stop telling lies. Muhammad was unlettered. He had scribes who wrote for him. And the revealed Qur'an was learnt by heart by him and thousands during his life time.
On the contrary, it was to correct the divinity of Jesus which Jesus never claim even in the Bible as it is today. There's nothing like the Gospel of Salvation. All na film trick.
Foolishness is claiming all those Biblical things happened in Israel and they are more Muslim than Christian. It seems the Islamic narration is correct and better.
The Holy Spirit does not exists as you claim. Which sin are you talking about? Na your Bible that one dey? All the trash you have been saying about Muhammad and Allah on our thread are not between you and God? Look at the nonsense Holy Spirit guided you to lie again? You are being controlled by a devil called Holy spirit. Why tell lie again that our Prophet was deceptive?
I know the truth already.
Fallacies and blunders that the Holy spirit inspired you in lies that is based on bias and prejudice. If you suffer impotence today na Muslims cause am.
Islam is the truth and every other way is falsehood. Jesus is a Muslim and will return as a Muslim obeying the tenets of Islam. My God! Mohammed did a thorough work of deception on you. Your only remedy is to rid your mind of all biases and ask God to reveal Himself to you. I did this in 1995, 4 years after this, I met Jesus. Luke was a follower of Paul who also had a close rapport with Peter. He was a renown physician in his day. Mark was a cousin of Barnabas. Barnabas was one of the 120 disciples of Jesus as well as a companion of Paul. All these are found in the Act of Apostles. ( Acts 12:12; 15:37, Colossians 4:14). If the gospel writers copied each other, then, they would have written word for word, and all views would have been the same. However, the theme of each book differs. The writing styles are different. And details about events were painted differently in terms of view point. The only eye witness of Jesus was John. Mathew was an eyewitness too but he came much later in Jesus' ministry. So many events had taken place in Jesus ministry before he was involved. Man, you have been fed with lies to even call Jesus a Muslim. The real Jesus of Nazareth is obviously different from the Islamic Jesus. Paul wrote letters directly to people to correct wrong views and provide instructions. So, why would his letters not be in: early circulation? The gospel writers wrote the gospels many years after they have walked with the resurrected Jesus. Just as a few of us are walking with Him today. Hahaha! The word Islam or Allah never existed in Israelis vocabulary! How could any of Israel's prophets or the Lord Jesus Himself be a Muslim? So, Jesus was a Muslim and it took Allah over 500yrs to come and announce that to the world! Jesus had 120 disciples when he was on earth, and none of them ever mentioned Allah or Islam. They never even heard of any Allah or Islam. I just pity you. The deception of Islam is very obvious! You only need to overcome spiritual blindness for you to see! In Like 24, Jesus prophesied that Israel would face war after His departure, and that the war would scatter them into all nations. He added that infidels would come and dwell in Jerusalem: " And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the infidels, until the times of the infidels be fulfilled."Tell me who are dwelling in Jerusalem today. Muslims, of course. According to Jesus, those Muslims are infidels! Do not forget that Allah has already confessed to you that he is the best of deceivers: Sura 3:54But they were deceptive, and Allah was deceptive, for Allah is the best of deceivers Sura 7:99Are they then secure from Allah's deception? None deemeth himself secure from Allah's deception |
Christianity Etc › Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? Who Is Allah? by RoyalDiadems: 1:24pm On Jun 21, 2022 |
Blakjewelry: Lol the problem with you religious folks is you guys are not open minded. I ask you to present the entire context in which the words were used you are beating around the Bush. U talked about Muslim and war, have you take time to read your Christian religion history? Start from the old testament to the religious wars and persecution in Europe. Christian had their own history of blood bath the problem of most of you today is that you don't read. You're just trying to deviate. But, I'll keep on the track. You never asked me to talk about the context. You only said if Muslims quote our scriptures, we'll say it's out of context. I answered you according to the tenor of your words. However, the context is about the crucification of Jesus. Allah said he deceived the Jews to make them think they were crucifying the real Jesus, and that he's the best of deceivers. The Old testament is the history of Israel as a nation. The wars have nothing to do with Christianity. All nations fight wars in order to remain sovereign. The persecution in Europe was done against fellow Christians whom the heretic church believed to be impostors. Tell me where persecutions were made against Muslims in the history of the church. Now, you might want to talk about the crusaders. Heretic Christian fighters of that era. Though, they're generally regarded as heretics, it is a known fact that they took to war to defend themselves against the Islamic Jihad of the Ottoman empire. And all these is still different from the Muslims who have a direct instruction from Allah to kill non-muslims. They kill for their god. Which Christian in all of history has killed for his God? Speak the truth always. Even if you're an atheist, Jesus still loves your soul. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? Who Is Allah? by RoyalDiadems: 11:35pm On Jun 20, 2022 |
AntiChristian: Which translation of the Qu'ran calls Allah as such? Are you saying that the various translations of the Quran do contradict themselves? The Arabic word used there is 'makr' which means deception/cheating. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? Who Is Allah? by RoyalDiadems: 11:04pm On Jun 20, 2022 |
Blakjewelry: First off I am not a Muslim, I purposely made that note because when whenever the issue of religion is been discussed, people tend to act as the mouthpiece of the gods or the conscience of the god and try to explain. Though not a Muslim, I can easily infer that the Quranic quote simply means though the enemy of Allah think they are smart, but he is smarter, what your fail to notice is the way the ancients use words. Yeah, it's quiet acceptable to deny being a Muslim. Who would want to associate himself with a god who calls himself the best of deceivers? However, your argument is lame. None of the chronic Muslims who answered the post ever said it was quoted out of context. Believe you me, Christians don't quote quoranic texts out of context in order to support an argument. Only Muslims do, because, as Christians, we don't dwell on lies. Also, the purpose of exposing such texts as this is just to show our Muslim brothers that they've been deceived. This is done out of love for them, not out of an intent to attack their religion. Muslims on the other hand see Christians as religious competitors whom they must fight and win, and since all is fair in war, they must quote out of context to attack. True christians are not at war. We do what we do out love. Muslims on the other hand are instructed to hate Christians and even kill them. Additionally, their religion supports lying on God's behalf. Meanwhile, we Christians cannot lie on God's behalf. If we do, we will come into condemnation. To all muslims out there, We love you and want you to escape from the shackles of deception, and embrace eternal peace in Christ Jesus. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? Who Is Allah? by RoyalDiadems: 8:51pm On Jun 19, 2022 |
AntiChristian: So you have excuses for your lord's deceits but you won't entertain the same excuses from Muslims. That's hypocrisy. Where are the excuses? I simply exposed your lies. If you have excuses for allah who introduced himself as the best of deceivers, let's hear them. |
Christianity Etc › Re: How Long Does It Take To Receive The Holyspirit After Salvation? by RoyalDiadems: 8:46pm On Jun 19, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: Again...What do you gain from lying to disparage my person yet refusing to provide scriptural evidence to actually invalidate any of what I state of the Word of God, Jesus Christ?  You cannot deny what I said about you? I was just waiting for you to deny. Now, rather than deny what was said about him, he'll start asking the same foolish question again and again. That's what he does. Agent of darkness parading himself as an agent of light. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? Who Is Allah? by RoyalDiadems: 8:39pm On Jun 19, 2022 |
Blakjewelry: Isaiah 45:7, 1 kings 22 verse 19-23 that is the lord skimming against mere mortal, 1 Samuel 18: 10, judges 9:23, these are few I can recall at the moment.. Now i expect you to try and preach me the origin of some of these words and the context in which they are used but that is the same thing you fail to do while attacking another man's religion. At the bolded, so you deliberately lifted those scriptures from their contexts to deceive? It's called Sunnah in Islam now. It's permitted to lie from allah. Now, Allah has said he's the best of deceivers, defend the context rather than making an attempt to deceive. Or you failed to defend because there's no context to the statement? |
Christianity Etc › Re: How Long Does It Take To Receive The Holyspirit After Salvation? by RoyalDiadems: 8:31pm On Jun 19, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: What do you gain from lying to disparage my person yet refusing to provide scriptural evidence to actually invalidate any of what I state of the Word of God, Jesus Christ?  Deny anything I said above concerning you, and I'll bring out your Nairaland posts to expose you. You son of the devil. |
Christianity Etc › Re: How Long Does It Take To Receive The Holyspirit After Salvation? by RoyalDiadems: 8:23pm On Jun 19, 2022 |
Lighthouse50: Thanks sir, please can one fast for it cos waiting too long leads to weariness My brother, be ware of kobojunkie. He's a deceiver and an imposter. This is a guy who tries all he can to lead people away from God. You can. Check his posts from to confirm. He's an agent of hell who says the Bible is a false book but he keeps quoting from it. He says all pastors are deceivers. He says all churches are fake. Run away from that guy. The Lord will preserve your soul. The Holy Spirit Baptism can.come at anytime. No fixed period. The moment you give your life to Christ, you're qualified. In Acts 10, Cornelius and his house received Holy Spirit Baptism even before they were baptised in water. I personally received the baptism of the Holy Spirit at a period I was seriously yearning for Him. I faster after reading a book written by R.D Flory, Biblical Fasting and Prayer. I received the baptism with the evidence of speaking in tongues on the 7th day of my fasting which was the last day. 1. You must thirst earnestly for the baptism. God pours water only on thirsty grounds. 2. You must ask in faith. Your experience would not be similar to mine. You may never have to fast. You can also received the baptism of the Holy Spirit through the laying on of hands. Yes, someone can minister to you. There's no given Condition for the Baptism to be received other than being born again. Then, have faith and yearn for Him. You can get saved today and be baptised today. No time factor is involved. May the Lord grant you your desires. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? Who Is Allah? by RoyalDiadems: 7:47pm On Jun 19, 2022 |
AntiChristian: What do you need my attention for?
What your God cannot do does not exist na! Your God can die, lie and deceive!
According to Isaiah 45:7 He create calamity and prosperity.
Yes, the Lord can be a Deceiver too as the situation demands. Pick up your Bible and follow. If you notice any lie please call my attention to it.
Topic And your Lord is a great deceiver too
Jeremiah 4:10 Then I said, "Ah, Sovereign LORD, how completely you have deceived (nasha) this people and Jerusalem by saying, 'You will have peace,' when the sword is at our throats."
We have it in... 1 Kings 22:20-22 And the LORD said, 'Who will entice Ahab into attacking Ramoth Gilead and going to his death there?' "One suggested this, and another that. 21 Finally, a spirit came forward, stood before the LORD and said, 'I will entice him.' " 'By what means?' the LORD asked. " 'I will go out and be a lying spirit in the mouths of all his prophets,' he said. " 'You will succeed in enticing him,' said the LORD. 'Go and do it.'
Here we see that the man said that he would resort to lying in order to entice Ahab and God supported the idea and told him to go ahead and do it! We even have it in... Ezekiel 14:9-11 " 'And if the prophet is enticed to utter a prophecy, I the LORD have enticed that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand against him and destroy him from among my people Israel. 10 They will bear their guilt-the prophet will be as guilty as the one who consults him. 11 Then the people of Israel will no longer stray from me, nor will they defile themselves anymore with all their sins. They will be my people, and I will be their God, declares the Sovereign LORD.' "
God is punishing him for a crime that He enticed him to do in the first place? Isn't that entrapment? Another passage... Isaiah 37:6-7 Isaiah said to them, "Tell your master, 'This is what the LORD says: Do not be afraid of what you have heard-those words with which the underlings of the king of Assyria have blasphemed me. Listen! I am going to put a spirit in him so that when he hears a certain report, he will return to his own country, and there I will have him cut down with the sword.' God had that spirit spread a rumor so that the King of Assyria can to return to his homeland. In short, that spirit's purpose was for deception. Another example from the Bible...
Isaiah 19:14 The LORD has poured into them a spirit of dizziness; they make Egypt stagger in all that she does, as a drunkard staggers around in his vomit.
Here we see God deceiving people to the extent that they become absolutely foolish.
Even though I don't believe the Gospels teach that Jesus taught he was God, however this example is for those who believe that Jesus is God. Jesus admits that he was speaking figuratively all this time...
John 16:25 "Though I have been speaking figuratively (paroimia), a time is coming when I will no longer use this kind of language but will tell you plainly about my Father. Why wasn't Jesus speaking in a normal and clear way all the time? Why did Jesus then go and say that he won't 'use this kind of language'? Well, here we find out why... Mark 4:10-12 When he was alone, the Twelve and the others around him asked him about the parables. 11He told them, "The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you. But to those on the outside everything is said in parables 12so that," 'they may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but never understanding; otherwise they might turn and be forgiven!' So here we see that Jesus was deceiving certain people by speaking in parables so that they won't (and God forbid!) REPENT AND BE FORGIVEN!
Also in... 2 Thessalonians 2:11 For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie.
So God will delude people so that they can believe lies?
Betterheadline. Man, it seems you actually love to be deveived. Allah confessed that he's the best of deceivers. Hence the Quoran is a book of deceit written by the best of deceivers. Can't you see? Let me reply your Bible quotations below, which as usual you would twist to defend your spiritual blindness. 1. 45:7 He create calamity and prosperity.Yes, He created calamity for evil doers, just like Sodom and Gomorrah, and the Flood of Noah. God is a Judge, and it is a righteous thing with God to render tribulations and calamity upon the workers of iniquity. One last calamity that God has created is hell. There, the Deceiver and the deceived shall be judged eternally. Prosperity is created for the righteous. A balanced and just God. 2. b]Jeremiah 4:10[/b] Then I said, "Ah, Sovereign LORD, how completely you have deceived (nasha) this people and Jerusalem by saying, 'You will have peace,' when the sword is at our throats."Here, you are conspicuously lying like your Deceiver god. Taking the scripture out of context to prove a false point. Jeremiah made that exclamation because false prophets were prophesying lies which Jeremiah taught was from God. They were proclaiming peace because that was what the people wanted to hear. God then gave Jeremiah His truth that calamity was coming upon the nation. He then told him that He was not the source of the false prophesies. Jeremiah 14:14, 22:15 and 29:9 clarified the lying prophecies: "For they prophesy falsely to you in My name; I have not sent them,’ declares the Lord." 3. 1 Kings 22:20-22And the LORD said, 'Who will entice Ahab into attacking Ramoth Gilead and going to his death there?' Here, you shot yourself and your allah in the leg. In this scripture, God wanted to judge Ahab for all the murders he has committed. And that judgement was to be administered to him by man. God therefore wanted him to go to an unsuccessful battle and die there. He then asked, "Who will entice Ahab..." God was looking for someone who would lure Ahab to battle, since God is not capable of deception, He couldn't do it Himself. A lying spirit volunteered to do the job using blind and sycophant prophets. Meanwhile, Micah, a prophet who had the Spirit of God in him told Ahab the truth, but Ahab chose to believe the prophets with the lying spirits. That's the same way we teach the truth to you today, but you chose to believe the Deceiver allah. 4. Isaiah 37:6-7 Isaiah said to them, "Tell your master, 'This is what the LORD says: Do not be afraid of what you have heard-those words with which the underlings of the king of Assyria have blasphemed me. Listen! I am going to put a spirit in him so that when he hears a certain report, he will return to his own country, and there I will have him cut down with the sword.'[/b] You used this scripture to peddle another lie like your Deceiver god. The rumour was noted in the immediate verse 8 of that same chapter but you left it out in order to deceive. Indeed, God did as He said, a rumour of war was heard. He then abandoned the Jerusalem war to go and defend his country. The rumour was not a lie: Isaiah 37:8 "When the field commander heard that the king of Assyria had left Lachish, he withdrew from Jerusalem and found the king fighting against Libnah." It was a true rumour that he heard. No deception. 5. Ezekiel 14:9-11'And if the prophet is enticed to utter a prophecy, I the LORD have enticed that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand against him and destroy him from among my people Israel. 10 They will bear their guilt-the prophet will be as guilty as the one who consults him. 11 Then the people of Israel will no longer stray from me, nor will they defile themselves anymore with all their sins. They will be my people, and I will be their God, declares the Sovereign LORD.' [/color]" Here, by removing the preceding verses, you sought again to do deception: Ezek.14.4 - "Therefore speak unto them, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Every man of the house of Israel that setteth up his idols in his heart, and putteth the stumblingblock of his iniquity before his face, and cometh to the prophet; I the LORD will answer him that cometh according to the multitude of his idols; You cannot be serving idols and be seeking prophesies from God. He's a jealous God. He said He'll answer you according to the multitude of your idols." Yeah, the vanity seeking prophet is also doomed. Why should a true prophet of God attend to idol worshippers? God cannot be mocked.. For space, I would have posted more verses to debunk your lies. But Nairaland bots would ban if my post becomes too long. 6 Another example from the Bible...Isaiah 19:14The LORD has poured into them a spirit of dizziness; they make Egypt stagger in all that she does, as a drunkard staggers around in his vomit. Now, point out in that very verse you quoted where deceit was implied. Perhaps you don't know what the words stagger and dizziness means. Anyone who deliberately decides to reject God in his life would live a life full of confusion. 7. John 16:25"Though I have been speaking figuratively (paroimia), a time is coming when I will no longer use this kind of language but will tell you plainly about my Father." This passage in which you said Jesus speaking figuratively means He's deceiving people shows that you're not only deceptive but also foolish. Otherwise, how could figures of speech be interpreted as deception? Perhaps you don't know what figurative speaking means, it means that He was talking to them in a way that they would have to think deep to understand what He was saying. And that's it. The things of the kingdom of God are for curious people. People who would search deeper for meanings in order to encounter God. Precious things are never on the surface. The things of God are precious, only those who can dig can find. May the Lord have mercy on your soul and deliver you from this art of deception. Clearly, a demon of allah has laid siege on your life. Repent before it's too late. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? Who Is Allah? by RoyalDiadems: 4:00pm On Jun 19, 2022 |
BetterHeadline: Who is allah? Do Christians and Muslims worship the same God?
A Christian friend of mine argued that Christians and Muslims worship the same God, but merely defer on how to go about worshipping Him. Is that true? Well, let's find out.
Who is allah?
Today we learned that Allah is a Deceiver: The best of them.
Who exactly is the deceiver?
Need I say more? I need not. Now you who 'The Deceiver' is.
To answer the question: Do Christians and Muslims worship the same God? The answer is : I believe you know now the answer.
How The Deceiver deceives muslims
Firstly, Jesus isn't the messenger of allah; God forbid. Secondly, this sura insults Jesus as a coward who ran away from death and had an innocent body-double killed his place. This is insulting. Jesus died on our behalf, and this is one of the pillar of Christianity. From this sura we learned that Jesus (The Prince of Peace) is different from Muslim's jesus.
Biblical Warning Against The Deceiver's Version Of Jesus
Here we learned The deceiver is . . . well a deceiver, and his version of Jesus never existed.
Also pay attention to the last sentence: "Their end will be what their actions deserve." Their actions include what's happening in the middle-belt, what recently happened in Owo, the lynching of Deborah Samuel, etc. Do ask yourself? What do their actions deserve? The answer is up to you. But remember: Heaven helps those who help themselves.
Those of us who are aware of Muhammad's (Allah's apostle) obsession of angel Gabriel will understand this message below
The selfless Christian will save this message and then show them to our Christian brethren so that they may be save from the ignorance of Islam, but the selfish Christian will keep this message to himself only. Antichristian, your attention is needed here: https://www.nairaland.com/7174924/christians-muslims-worship-same-god#113956212 |
Christianity Etc › Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? Who Is Allah? by RoyalDiadems: 3:59pm On Jun 19, 2022 |
Blakjewelry: Lol since you decided to hand pick some point from the Koran to make your point, you forget there are tons of words in the bible which depicted Yahweh as a bad guy too You will do well to quote the verses of scripture that depicts God as a bad guy. Allah has confessed himself to be a deceiver, and infact the best of them. What else are you waiting for? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Religions Have Different Gods But One Satan by RoyalDiadems: 3:07pm On Jun 19, 2022 |
FERNANDEZISBACK: Your parent gave you a brain to think for themself..  Oh, you've answered one of the questions, howbeit indirectly. Your parents were the ones who gave you a brain? How did they do it. I want to know exactly how it came to be in their power to give you a brain. The other questions are still waiting for you: Who gave human beings the power to think for themselves? Do human beings actually own their own brains? Can they boost or degrade their brains anytime they want? Do they own their own lives? Can they decide either to live long or to die Young? Can they determine how tall or short they want to be in stature? Do human beings really own themselves? Do they have absolute control over their own fate? These questions too are begging for answers. |