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BarrElChapo:
She hadn't built up capacity for the battle she undertook. May God show her mercy whether now or hereafter.

I don't think it's a matter of capacity. If God did not send you on an errand and you go presumptuously to execute it, you won't have His backing. You're actually on your own.

That's the Hallmark of foolishness.

WowSweetGuy:
museum sake. Just like artifacts

Please who are those buying it?

raslim20:
something buyers are buying above 1m

Please who are those buyers?

AntiChristian:
1. The definition of Prophethood is different in your religion. We have two terms in Islam. A messenger and a Prophet. A Messenger is one who is sent to a disbelieving people, and a Prophet is one who is sent to a believing people with the sharee’ah (Laws) of the Messenger who came before him, to teach them and judge between them. A Prophet may or may not be a messenger.

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“Verily, We did send down the Tawraat (Torah) [to Moosa (Moses)], therein was guidance and light, by which the Prophets, who submitted themselves to Allaah’s Will, judged for the Jews”
[al-Maa’idah 5:44]

Where do you get the definition of Prophethood in the Bible?

1. Whatever your definition of the term prophet is, it is generally believed that a prophet has a message. You cannot believe a prophet without believing his messages. It Mohammed told you to believe in them, that means their messages are believed by Mohammed. Seek their messages my friend if you don't want to be deceived.

2. The Bible does not promote anything. It states pure facts as they're known to the writer. The story of Abraham was written by Moses whom Mohammed Saud you should believe in. If Moses lied, then Mohammed has led you astray by asking you to believe in Moses. The entire book of Genesis was written by Moses as a revelation from God detailing the beginning of the world, the nations and particularly the origin of Israel. What Moses wrote about Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Ismael are nothing but historical truths. Mohammed only came to distort and contradict the same Moses whom he asked you to believe in. Think about it my friend.

3. The Bible wasn't written as a religious book initially. The Torah which Mohammed claimed Allah gave to Moses was a theocratic constitution of some sort used to govern the nation of Israel. The ensuing books from Judges to 2Chronicles were Israel's recorded history. The remaining books are historical accounts and prophesies made by various prophets at different times in history. These are all very important books for the Israelites. Anyone that does anything against those books would be considered worthy of death. Mohammad then came to single handedly rewire the history of those people and their prophets claiming he has strange revelations. Think about it my brother.

If you want proofs that the Bible is 100% true, I'll give you tons of proofs if you oblige.

The only testimony of the quoran is that or Mohammed alone with no witness. The testimony of the Bible is borne by many in the presence of many witnesses.

4. Yes, the continuous wickedness of Er and Ornan earned them Devine judgement eventually. That's justice. God is merciful to sinners, but He'll bring judgement upon you some day when your cup is full.


5. As I said earlier, Moses wrote all the Genesis Account. The two sisters did what Moses wrote that they did on account of the situation they were in. They didn't do it as a deliberate act of pleasure to please themselves. Now, the Moabites and the Ammonites never denied the story.

AntiChristian:
1. We respect them because that's part of our faith in Islam not because of what was written about them. We believe in them all as Muslims. Not believing in what the Islamic text says about them is disbelief.


2. Jesus was not killed as Islam said. Even if i were to ask you to tell us what happened leading to the crucifixion and resurrection you'll see the differences in the four gospels on the matter.
Everything was just a hoax!
Even the holy spirit wasn't able to guide them to write similar things.
Even the way Judas died was contradictory from two of the gospels while the other two were silent.
God is not a ritualist that needs human sacrifice to save His creations.
He is all powerful and have no need to beget a son!



3. You telling me I contradict the Qu'ran is another proof you lack guidance and that the theory of the holy spirit among you Christians is false.

The tradition in Islam is to call people by their name / father's name or their kunya such as Abu Abdullah meaning father of Abdullah, Mary daughter of Imran, Jesus son of Maryam. These are names.

In this regard, Jesus was called , Jesus son Maryam, since he had no earthly father. Messiah is only a title specific for him. Why not tell us others who were called Messiah in your Bible?

This was always the tradition then.

4. Your Jesus has no power to save himself.
Stop wasting your time.

If you know your quoran well enough, you'll not be far from discovering the truth. If there had been no Christianity, there would have been no Islam. Islam was an invention to counter the salvation message that Jesus brought. Most of all you wrote up there are prove how ignorant you are.

1. You believe in a prophet merely because of what someone said about him, but you don't care about what such a prophet prophesied? Does that actually sound reasonable?

2. Islam cannot obliterate the truth of Jesus' death and resurrection because the evidence is here with us. Islam must first proclaim that no prophet prophesied about Jesus' death before it can deny the fulfilment of the prophecies.

The fact that He was crucified and resurrected is corroborated by the four gospel writers who wrote independently about the event. Yeah eye witness accounts may vary in relation to details but that the actual event happened cannot be denied.

3. Yeah, you said the Messaih is a title of Jesus, but Mohammed said: When the angels said: “O Mary! Allah gives you the good news of a Word from Him, whose name is the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary..." Surah 3:45

Mohammed said His name is Messaih. Your argument about this does not hold any water.

4. Jesus Himself told His disciples that He'll be crucified in Jerusalem ever before it happened. A disciple wanted to help Him escape arrest by fighting for Him but Jesus told him to abort such moves:

"Are you not aware that I can call on My Father, and He will at once put at My disposal more than twelve legions of angels? But how then would the Scriptures be fulfilled that say it must happen this way?” Matt. 26:53-54

Even when Pilate the governor was boasting that he had power to release Him, Jesus told him He doesn't need his help.

He told His disciples:

"No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of My own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This charge I have received from My Father.” John 10:18.

Finally in John 18:13, He said:

"Greater love has no one than this, that a man should lay down his life for his friends."

Now, tell me how it was that He couldn't save Himself. Jesus came simply to fulfil Prophecies in consummating God's eternal plan of salvation.

SarkinYarki:
Nonsense ..To be fair Atiku is from the North East and the North East is the only political zone that has never produced a president either military or democratically in the entire history of Nigeria ...It's time for the NE if we are to be factual

That shouldn't be the concern of the South. It is the responsibility of the north to give it to the North East whenever it's the turn of the North. Presently, it's the turn of the South, the North East can wait for the North's turn.

jrusky:
Really? I never heard such before.

Saraki is one of the most wicked politicians in Nigeria my brother.

He sold Kwara state properties and remitted funds into his own account. He also borrowed money in the name of the state government but used it for personal use.

A lot of atrocities he committed. He pays salaries in fractions. After his 2 time tenure, he installed his prodigee Ahmed Abdulfatah as governor. All state allocations are sent to his account. He gives the government peanuts. When civil servants complained bitterly to the governor, he asked them to go and meet Saraki. Saraki became angry, summoned the governor, and gave him a hot slap for directing the people to him.

He used kwarans. He rendered them as his slaves. That's why he was kicked out.

jrusky:
I won't lie bro I somehow like Saraki.

If you know him, you won't like him. He's intelligent but wicked. Go and ask Kwarans.

AntiChristian:
Sincerely you're not making any sense at all.

All the Jesus prophecies are bogus. The only name mentioned directly was Emmanuel which Jesus was never called.

And about the Messiah, how many "Messiah" exists in the Bible from the use of the word "Christos"?

The Islamic belief is that Jesus was not killed. It was made to appear to them like that. He was raised up body and soul. It doesn't matter whether the Jews believed in him or not. The Qu'ran never said they believed in him. His title was "Messiah".

We know the meaning of Messiah. It's just not the same with yours!

And Jesus gave prophecies of the coming of Muhammad in the Qu'ran.

The one in your Bible you translate it to Holy spirit.

If all Jesus prophecies are bogus, then why should Islam respect the prophets who prophesied them?

The fact that Islam says Jesus was not killed is the very reason why we must believe that the Allah of Islam is not God. The very purpose for which Jesus came can only be denied by Satan. If Jesus wasn't killed, then there's no salvation. Of cause, Satan has to deny the killing which had been prophesied before Jesus came knowing fully well that you need to believe that Jesus died and rose again in order to be saved. What a clever way to keep people in bondage?

You can't know the meaning of Messaih more than the owners of the language who had the promise of the Messaih. Was the Messiah promised to Mohammed or any of the sons of Ismael? How dare you interpret the meaning for them? Clear deception. The Jews who were promised the Messaih know the meaning, and if Islam has a different meaning then, that's deception. Infact, Mohammed thought that the word Messaih was a name:

"When the angels said: “O Mary! Allah gives you the good news of a Word from Him, whose name is the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, who is illustrious in this world and the hereafter, and who is one of those brought near [to Allah]." (Surah 3.45).

The word Messaih did not originate from Arabic. Giving it a different meaning in Islam is an obvious foundation for deception.

You even contradict your quoran by referring to the word Messaih as a title.

Jesus never gave any prophecy of Mohammed. All are lies. The written accounts we have about Jesus are by His disciples. Those who ate, slept and drank with Him. Mohammed who never saw Jesus cannot know Jesus better than these people.

You cannot be saved from eternal damnation except through Jesus Christ the Messaih.

AntiChristian:
Yeah, your own definition of Prophethood is different from ours. Allah sent Lot to the people of Sodom. He was sent to warn them against the evil of sodomy they commit. He was also a messenger.

Adam was the first Prophet of Islam.



We do believe Abraham married his sister in faith not his biological sister in Islam. These are false ascriptions to Prophets of God in the Bible.

Lot never slept with his daughters in Islam. David never killed Uriah nor commit covetousness with adultery as the Bible paints him. Noah didn't get drunk and get himself naked only for him to curse one of his descendant.

Some forbidden things were sometimes permitted before. And this may be true of incest. But in the case of Adam and Eve, that was permitted. And their sons and daughters had to marry themselves.

My problem is that why would God in the Bible save people from sodomy only for them to commit incest?

You falsely claim incest wasn't forbidden then so why did the daughters had to make their father drunk repeatedly before commiting the act?

In the book of Moses there are about 10 incidents of incests. And I wonder what the authors hope to derive with such narrations!

There is only one meaning to prophet hood. Islam took it's roots from Christianity and Judahism. If Islam has a different meaning for the word Prophet or prophecy, then it's a clear case of deception.

There was no Allah in the history of Abraham and lot. No Allah sent Lot anywhere! Abraham and Lot had a dispute on land, they had to part ways to avoid further disputes. Lot chose Sodom and Gomorrah, and Abraham remained in Canaan. Lot wasn't a prophet. Just as Adam wasn't a prophet but Mohammed calls him so.

Abraham married his Biological sister. A daughter of his father Terah. Though not a daughter of his mother. The Islamic narrative is a false narrative. The book of Genesis has been written more than 4000yrs before Mohammed was born! Where did Mohammed get his narrations from?

The prophets were all Jews. Mohammed cannot know the history of the Jews better than the Jews themselves.

The story of David was written by the scribes of his day whose official duties was to write the histories of Israel and its kings. They wrote exactly what happened. They were called 'Recorders'. They were the preservers of history and traditions. The kings read what they write. If anyone had written any lies against David, tell me how such an individual would go Scott free! The histories were written by their contemporaries who had offices in the palace with them. So, tell me where Mohammed got his narrations from.

I'll rather believe the words of David's contemporaries which David did not deny than believe the words of a man in far away Arabia who never saw David but wrote about David 3000yrs after David himself!

I never claimed incest wasn't forbidden. I said, at the time, there was no law. God had not given any law. Hence, God would not have punished them for something He had not given any law against. Sodomy on the other hand was known naturally to be abominable. Additionally, considering the condition under which the incest took place- there was no man in their area. They were staying far away from human settlements for fear that God may destroy those places as He did Sodom and Gomorrah, the sisters decided to commit incest with their dad. This wasn't a habitual event as the sodomy of those cities who were destroyed after several generations of practice. God being merciful waited for them to repent before finally destroying them.

God in His mercy would not destroy the two sisters for an offence they committed once. Being forgiving, He'll forgive them except they keep practicing without repentance.

The same way God still forgives people today who commit grievous sins until they're destroyed.

And for your unnecessary question. God never saved them from sodomy. He only saved them from the destruction of Sodom. Sodomy was an action of choice. In their days, there was no salvation from sin.

AntiChristian:
Yeah, your own definition of Prophethood is different from ours. Allah sent Lot to the people of Sodom. He was sent to warn them against the evil of sodomy they commit. He was also a messenger.

Adam was the first Prophet of Islam.



We do believe Abraham married his sister in faith not his biological sister in Islam. These are false ascriptions to Prophets of God in the Bible.

Lot never slept with his daughters in Islam. David never killed Uriah nor commit covetousness with adultery as the Bible paints him. Noah didn't get drunk and get himself naked only for him to curse one of his descendant.

Some forbidden things were sometimes permitted before. And this may be true of incest. But in the case of Adam and Eve, that was permitted. And their sons and daughters had to marry themselves.

My problem is that why would God in the Bible save people from sodomy only for them to commit incest?

You falsely claim incest wasn't forbidden then so why did the daughters had to make their father drunk repeatedly before commiting the act?

In the book of Moses there are about 10 incidents of incests. And I wonder what the authors hope to derive with such narrations!

There is only one meaning to prophet hood. Islam took it's roots from Christianity and Judahism. If Islam has a different meaning for the word Prophet or prophecy, then it's a clear case of deception.

There was no Allah in the history of Abraham and lot. No Allah sent Lot anywhere! Abraham and Lot had a dispute on land, they had to part ways to avoid further disputes. Lot chose Sodom and Gomorrah, and Abraham remained in Canaan. Lot wasn't a prophet. Just as Adam wasn't a prophet but Mohammed calls him so.

Abraham married his Biological sister. A daughter of his father Terah. Though not a daughter of his mother. The Islamic narrative is a false narrative. The book of Genesis has been written more than 4000yrs before Mohammed was born! Where did Mohammed get his narrations from?

The prophets were all Jews. Mohammed cannot know the history of the Jews better than the Jews themselves.

The story of David was written by the scribes of his day whose official duties was to write the histories of Israel and its kings. They wrote exactly what happened. They were called 'Recorders'. They were the preservers of history and traditions. The kings read what they write. If anyone had written any lies against David, tell me how such an individual would go Scott free! The histories were written by their contemporaries who had offices in the palace with them. So, tell me where Mohammed got his narrations from.

I'll rather believe the words of David's contemporaries which David did not deny than believe the words of a man in far away Arabia who never saw David but wrote about David 3000yrs after David himself!

I never claimed incest wasn't forbidden. I said, at the time, there was no law. God had not given any law. Hence, God would not have punished them for something He had not given any law against. Sodomy on the other hand was known naturally to be abominable. Additionally, considering the condition under which the incest took place- there was no man in their area. They were staying far away from human settlements for fear that God may destroy those places as He did Sodom and Gomorrah, the sisters decided to commit incest with their dad. This wasn't a habitual event as the sodomy of those cities who were destroyed after several generations of practice. God being merciful waited for them to repent before finally destroying them.

God in His mercy would not destroy the two sisters for an offence they committed once. Being forgiving, He'll forgive them except they keep practicing without repentance.

The same way God still forgives people today who commit grievous sins until they're destroyed.

AntiChristian:
No one called it Greek. Who translated it? When was it translated? How was it translated from an unpronounced YHWH to Jehovah? At some point there was no name as Jehovah. So it's a creation of man.

Not really. The context of the book of Job shows Satan as someone who still frolic with Angels presenting himself to God. God could have done whatever He will on his own without Satan's whine.



Where in the Bible does it says those killed were of Satan's? Even the animals and properties too? Haba!



What does that word "psychēs" mean in your own strong's concordance?

Why do you love sticking to falsehood when it's clear that you wrong?

Every word humans speak is a creation of man. There is no word we speak that is a creation of angels.

The book of Job is one of the most ancient books of the Bible. Probably written before Moses. At that time Satan could still present himself among the Angels. Yeah, he was an angel before he rebeled. Frolicking with God? No!

The Bible doesn't have to say those Killed are Satan's before we can differentiate. Anyone who's not of God is Satan's, and Satan can have them anytime because they're his. Satan can't have God's own without God's permission as we saw with job. You're even talking about properties as though properties have souls. He who gave can re-give.

Saying Satan whined God is blasphemous! God wanted to test Job using Satan, so God said to Satan 'Have you observed my servant Job...' He deliberately started a conversation to bring Satan into the events of of Job's life. The same way Satan was used to crucify Jesus.

God does not work the way you think. God uses his creatures to do all of His biddings which are within the capacity of the creatures. The only things God does by Himself are things no one anywhere can do!

psychēs mean Souls.

If APC fails to field Osinbajo, I'll vote Obi. Nigeria must be saved.

AntiChristian:
It's part of the article of faith as a Muslim to believe in them. They were not sent to us but to others.

Only Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam was sent to the whole mankind.

So we follow our text by believing in all of them, their revelations from Allah and anything confirmed in our text about them.

If you believe in these prophets, then you won't believe in Mohammed because Mohammed literally prophesied in contradiction to their prophesies.

All the prophets from Abraham to Zechariah prophesied about a coming Saviour - the Messiah. They prophesied about His Virgin birth, His death and His resurrection. They expressly detailed His travals and later triumph over darkness. They sucintly revealed how He, through His death and resurrection would purge away sins.

Yeah, Mohammed corroborated one Important feature of their Prophecy - the Messiah:

"The Messiah would never scorn to be a servant to Allah, nor would the angels who are nearest to Allah. As for those who scorn His service and are arrogantly proud, He shall gather them all to Himself to answer." (Surah 4.172).

The word Messaih appeared 11 times in the Quoran but I know that if Mohammed had known the meaning of that word, he wouldn't have referenced it to Jesus.

In Sura 4:167 of the Quoran, we even read, "And because of their saying: “We killed the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, Allah’s messenger.” The truth is that the Jews killed Jesus because they didn't know He was the Messaih! This particular verse saying the deliberately killed the Messaih exposes the deceit. Israel has always been in rabid expectation of the Messaih. They're still expecting the Messaih till today as we speak. So, if anyone would say "We killed the Messaih", then, they cannot be Jews. Except Mohammed was speaking of another Jesus killed by people other than the Jews.

The Word Messaih means 'The Anointed One. The One anointed to save. The Anointed Saviour' whom Jews believe to be the eternal King of Israel according to the prophecies of those prophets revered by Islam.

As I said earlier, if you know what those prophets prophesied, you would not believe Mohammed.
Jesus is the Messaih, the One anointed to save, and the quoran also says so.

AntiChristian:
So you actually believed God saved them from sodomy but couldn't protect them from incest?

I don't believe that story!

Lot was a Prophet. God won't let such happen to him.

Lot wasn't a prophet, though he was a righteous man influenced by his uncle Abraham. This is one of the greatest errors the prophet of Islam made, calling even Adam a prophet. If we go by the true definition of the word prophet, it would be established that anyone claiming himself to be the last prophet is ignorant.

Sodomy is man's invention through demonic inspiration making humans to seek sexual gratification through very perversive unnatural means.

Incest on the other hand was how the human race began. God created only two human Adam and Eve. The works had to propagate initially through brother marrying sister, and father marrying daughter until there was a sizable population of both sexes that rendered incest an abomination.

Besides, as at the time of Lot, there was no written law that made incest a sin. Laws prohibiting incest came into existence 430yrs later through Moses. Since there was no law against such, it cannot be counted as sin. Even Abraham married Sarah who happened to be his sister. At that time, no one considered it abominable until the law came. Sodomy on the other hand is against nature, and even animals know it is an abomination.

Not believing the story does not render it untrue. However, the Moabites and the Ammonites themselves never denied the story.

AntiChristian:
So you actually believed God saved them from sodomy but couldn't protect them from incest?

I don't believe that story!

Lot was a Prophet. God won't let such happen to him.

Lot wasn't a prophet, though he was a righteous man influenced by his uncle Abraham. This is one of the greatest errors the prophet of Islam made, calling even Adam a prophet. If we go by the true definition of the word prophet, it would be established that anyone claiming himself to be the last prophet is ignorant.

Sodomy is man's invention through demonic inspiration making humans to seek sexual gratification through very perversive unnatural means.

Incest on the other hand was how the human race began. God created only two human Adam and Eve. The works had to propagate initially through brother marrying sister, and father marrying daughter until there was a sizable population of both sexes that rendered incest an abomination.

Besides, as at the time of Lot, there was no written law that made incest a sin. Laws prohibiting incest came into existence 430yrs later through Moses. Since there was no law against such, it cannot be counted as sin. Even Abraham married Sarah who happened to be his sister. At that time, no one considered it abominable until the law came. Sodomy on the other hand is against nature, and even animals know it is an abomination.

AntiChristian:
I don't think I need to say much to extend this discuss. It's evident English was around 700 years ago. The word Lord has been in existence. But Jehovah wasn't. When actually was it created?

Who first translated it? I am asking how was YHWH changed to Yahweh and then to Jehovah?

Secondly, Satan made God test Job. His family was destroyed. Many were killed.
Even if he gained more after, it still remains that he suffered a calamity orchestrated by Satan through God according to the Bible.

I shouldn't say Satan whined God though! God can't be controlled though.

And lastly, the concept of Soul has been finally put to rest in my last comment.

Your New testament was translated from Greek. I brought the Greek equivalent for the word translated as Soul. The real meaning of that word is spirit.

But it seems you are bent on sticking with your views than the truth!

The Word Jehovah isn't Greek. It is a latinized rendering of the Hebrew word JHVH and YHWH.

In the case of Job, you cannot say Satan whinned God. God was the first to start the conversation by asking 'Have you observed my servant Job...?" He asked that question hoping to use Satan to test Job.

Yeah, many were killed because they were not under the Divine protection of Almighty God. They were Satan's servants, not God's, otherwise, while Satan was busy carrying out his evil deeds, he obviously would have encountered some untouchables. God had to remove His edge from Job for Satan to be able to touch him. The same way, there's a hedge around those who genuinely follow after God today.

Yeah, God considered Job for a promotion, and that was an exam job had to pass. We still write exams today in the school of the Spirit.

Regarding Hebrews 4:12, according to Strong's dictionary, the Word rendered Soul in Hebrews 4:12 is psychēs. While the word translated Spirit is pneumatos. There's no logical reasoning for your position that says "...even to the dividing assunder of spirit and spirit."

AntiChristian:
In the Biblical Story of Lot (Gen 19), his people were homosexuals and the LORD destroyed them. However Lot and his two daughters were saved from the destruction.

After that the daughters drugged their father with wine and slept with him in turns by night. They both got pregnant gave birth and God made them fruitful. So the Moabites and Ammonites have an incestous origin!

1. So why were the Sodomites destroyed but the Incestous preserved?

2. Does God know they (father and ladies) would move away from sodomy to incest?

3. If God could protect them from Sodomy why not incest or is incest preferable?

You don't know God. God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, not just because of Sodomy but because they refused to change from the act after a long time of God patiently waiting for them to repent. That's the same way God will finally destroy all the wicked who flaunt the opportunity to repent but keep daring the Almighty God.

Gid doesn't usually punish after just a singular act of sin. He punishes after a long wait in patience forbearance for the sinner to repent.

AntiChristian:
We will refer to Jesus as ‘Eesa throughout this article.

I will like to inform you that among what a Muslim must ''believe in'' is to believe in the Prophets as stated in the authentic Islamic texts. This Prophets includes Ibrahim (Abraham), Musa (Moses), Isma'eel (Ishmael), Ishaq (Isaac), Yaqoob (Jacob), Ayyob (Job), Yoonus (Jonah), Haroon (Aaron), Sulaiman (Solomon), Dawud (David), Idrees (Enoch), Dhul Kifl (Isaiah), Lut (Lot), Zakariyya (Zachariah), Ilyaas (Elijah), Al-Yasa (Elisha), Yahya (John), 'Eesa (Jesus) and Muhammad (Peace be upon them all). And the knowledge of their numbers belongs to Allah only! We believe all of them were sent by Allah to certain set of people. Some were given Inspired Books like Torah (Musa), Zabur (Dawud) Injeel ('Eesa), Qur'an (Muhammad), etc.

The beliefs of a Muslim towards ‘Eesa ibn Maryam (Jesus the son of Mary – peace be upon him).

1. Muslims do believe in ‘Eesa as a Prophet, a messenger and a noble slave of Allah sent to the children of Israel to call them to believe in Allah alone and to worship Him alone.

2. ‘Eesa was never a god or the son of God as the Christians claim.

3. We believe that Allaah supported him with miracles that proved he was speaking the truth. Many Prophets before him did miracles. The miracles includes ‘Eesa speaking while he was still in the cradle, breathing in to a clay bird making it turn to a live bird, healing the blind & lepers, quickening the dead, etc. All this happens solely with the permission of Allah.

4. We believe ‘Eesa has no father and his mother Maryam was a virgin. This is similar to Adam who has no father or Mother and Hawa (Eve) who has no mother but was created from Adam (peace be upon them both).

5. We believe that he permitted to the Jews some of the things that had been forbidden to them.

6. We believe that he did not die and his enemies the Jews did not kill him, rather Allaah saved him from them and raised him up to heaven alive.

7. We believe that he told his followers of the coming of our Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).

8. We believe that he will come back down at the end of time, and will disprove the claim of his enemies the Jews that they killed him, and will disprove the claim of the Christians that he is God or the son of God, and he will not accept anything from them but Islam.

9. Then he will die and the Muslims will offer the funeral prayer for him and bury him.

These are the beliefs of a Muslim towards ‘Eesa ibn Maryam (peace be upon him) as founded in the Books of Islam.

We ask Allaah to make us steadfast in faith and to cause us to die as believers.
May the Peace and blessings of Allaah be upon all the Prophets and all those who follow their Sunnah till the day of recompense!

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How come you believe in all these prophets without knowing what these prophets prophesied?

AntiChristian:
No! That's false. The name "Jehovah" was created some centuries ago by William Tyndale! The correct Hebrew name was "YHWH" and this was unpronounced.


This is false too.

Isaiah 45:7 goes thus: I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things. Satan proposes to harm Job and God approves it.

Even in Job 1:16, While he was still speaking, another messenger came and said, “The fire of God fell from the heavens and burned up the sheep and the servants, and I am the only one who has escaped to tell you!” It was not Satan doing anything!

All these are proven from your Bible. Why bring unnecessary theories?



Your reference above is wrong! It should have been Hebrews 4:12.
Checking the Greek translation of the Bible it seems i am still right and you wrong!

psychēs (Greek - translated as Soul in that verse) is From psucho; breath, i.e. spirit, abstractly or concretely.

Check Reference: https://biblehub.com/hebrews/4-12.htm

This still means Soul=Spirit!

Jehovah simply means THE LORD. This can be translated into any language. THE LORD or MY LORD has been in use before Tyndale.

Jehovah is the artificial Latinized rendering of the name of the God of Israel. The name arose among Christians in the Middle Ages through the combination of the consonants YHWH (JHVH) with the vowels of Adonai (“My Lord).

Yeah, the Lord created darkness and light, prosperity and disaster. He didn't create disaster for righteous men but for the wicked and for the workers of darkness.. And, He uses the devil to unleash the disaster on whosoever is guilty and worthy of it.

Calamity or disaster is not totally evil. Just as a good judge can pass death sentence on a murderer leading to celebration and rejoicing for those who seek justice. God can bring disaster on the deserving, using the devil in His Wisdom.

Job chapter 1 clearly narrates the incident so much so that we know and are aware of the source of Job's calamity. A discourse arouse between God and Satan in which God permitted Satan to bring calamity on job as a way of showing Satan that in spite of his neverous activity in the world to completely alienate man from God, God still has His trusted servants who against all odds would not follow satan. Job was tested. He passed, and God multiplied him 10 times better than his beginning.

James 5:1
"Behold, we count them happy which endure. Ye have heard of the patience of Job, and have seen the end of the Lord; that the Lord is very pitiful, and of tender mercy."

The reporter told job that the fire of God came down from heaven because that was his thoughts. He never knew the spiritual undercurrents of the events. The same way, people ignorantly ascribe evil unto God today.
Most ignorant men believe that "If it falls from heaven, then it's from God." This assertion is wrong.

Your Greek interpretation of the word spirit and soul is unbalanced. The Word separates spirit from soul and not soul from soul or spirit from spirit. I just made the reference for your enlightenment. This matter of Soul and Spirit is obviously beyond you.

Thanks for correcting the error in the Bible reference. I posted it without reviewing it.

AntiChristian:
Your Bible says Satan is the Elohim of this world.

And it's your God that created prosperity and calamity.

So why all your rants?

The Lord God who created the heavens and the earth is not just Elohim. He's Jehovah Elohim.

God created prosperity only. When man fell and sold himself to Satan, Satan distributed pain and calamity. God created Satan as a goodly archangel called Lucifer. After his rebellion, he was cast out of heaven and became the creator of calamity.

However, since there's sin among men, and there must be punishment for sin, God uses Satan indirectly to punish sins, bring men back to good reasoning as well as test their love for him.

The old testament theology believed that since God created Satan who created calamity, then God is indirectly the creator of calamity.

As in the case of Job, God tested Job through calamities but the devil was the brain behind each calamity that Job experienced.

Are you still confused as to whether spirit is different from soul? Read this scripture below:

"For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart." Hebrews 14:12

wirinet:
Circular reasoning.
1. God cursed man to die
2. God came to earth as human to die to save man from dying.
Or
1. God has already condemned all humanity.

2. God came as human to save humanity from eternal damnation.

The most crazy circular reasoning is God sacrificed himself to save humanity from himself.

Very ignorant position.

1. God never cursed man to die. Man died because of disobedience. He became eternally separated from God.

2. God did not come to earth to die only but he came to shed His blood for the atonement of man's sins which had made him a slave of the devil. Without blood, there's no atonement. And since man was unable to deliver himself from captivity, God in His love came to his rescue.

3. The condemnation was forewarned before the deed was done. "The day you eat thereof, thou shalt surely die.' it was a direct result of an action. God owns the world and He is the judge over its inhabitants.

4. Yes, God came in the form of man to reconcile man to Himself. God is a God of principles. He created the world with rules and order. To get man back to Himself, He must follow His own rules and orders. He must abide by His own principles.

5. God sacrificed His Son to save humanity from the captivity he has put himself into. All humanity became legal captives of Satan. Mankind sold itself and Satan became a lawful oppressor. God must deliver man through lawful means - REDEMPTION.

pinkPUSSY:
Honestly this election period has shown how daft, forgetful and shallow some Nigerians can be in reasoning..

Some APC supporters will sit behind their keyboards insulting Tinubu while praising Osibanjo, accusing Tinubu of corruption while exonerating Osibanjo ( I think this should be a phycological disorder) because anybody that's following Politics of this nation should know that Tinubu and Osibanjo are like two sides of the same coin when it comes to dirtiness and corruption

How can you separate the two knowing fully well how they both started their dirty games in the past ? What do you think that kept them together those days if not what everbody knows which is even an open secret ?

Infact, Tinubu is even far better than Osibanjo because he's open with his own corruption while the letter is so pretentious in his deal and such character is very dangerous..
I pity Nigerians..

Separating Tinubu from Osibanjo is like Separating Abacha from Mustapha.. No difference in corrupt deal.. The only difference is that one is outside receiving the bullets while the other one is underground doing the real deal..

Tinubu and Osibanjo are deeply corrupt and should never be allowed to near our National coffers!!

Nigerians wake up !!!!

Bode George isn't on the same page with you. He included Osinbajo in terms of awareness, not complicity.

Osinbajo was a commissioner for justice, not even Finance. So, in what way can you link as an accomplice with Tinubu. Bring out your facts and fugures to prove that Osinbajo was an accomplice in Tinubu's corrupt escapades.

AntiChristian:
It's not related as God created everything! Born of the spirit This are some of the words used to deceive the gullible! I don't believe in such!

These are lies bro. I once attended a Catholic Boarding house. We were forced to mass every morning and even cathechism, stations of the cross, etc. Even my school guardian was a CAC adherent. Whenever i went to his house, he would make me pray, sing with them, attend churches and fellowships with them despite knowing my Muslim background. I still remember some memory verses from John 3:16, Ephesians 2:8-9, etc. Christianity has the worst kind of terrorism and that is the terrorism of the mind. And i wasn't alone in this school. There are many Muslims. Even my Muslim name was not called. They prefer using my other name. And almost all what you wrote up there are what Christians too do indoctrinating their children with songs that Jesus died for them. Making them see helpless animals as demon and trying to bring down fire from one invisible holy ghost.

No Bible verse will ever tell you there is no compulsion in religion except the Qur'an. If you have evidences for what you wrote about Islam up there do bring them.

You are wrong! I am well aware the family attends RCCG. Another attends winners and she prays wildly too always inviting fire to burn their enemies! The 7 day adventist neigbor is still mild compared to others.

This is true about most religions! A Jehovah witness will say same about you as well as a Unitarian Christian.

Is there any bible verse where Jesus gave this definition? And won't other Christian denomination disagree with this?



Miracles happen everywhere even without any Christian involved. I have many incidence too and I'm not a Christian. Mind you, false Prophets too have such powers.



I really don't know who the Christians are. Jesus never stated such word. He never started Christianity nor tell anyone to start a religion.
Christians denominations are coming up day by day and we have about 45,000 denominations now if not more.

And each claim Christianity with proofs from the Bible.

There's no compulsion in Christianity, you know it quiet wel. Islam says so but does the opposite. Even you yourself know that if you leave Islam today, you might be killed. If you attend a religious school, you're mandated to do their religious biddings. These happen in Muslim schools as well. That's not what we're talking about. We're talking about indoctrination and brainwashing, which is a permanent feature of Islam. I already painted the picture in my last post.

Yeah so many denominations come out of Christiendome because the devil is constantly attacking the truth and trying all he could to cause divisions. So many false pastors and false Churches with false doctrines abound. If there are no such confusion infused by the devil, it wouldn't be hard for people like you to find salvation. It is a satanic strategy to stump out the light of the gospel. But, God is still manifesting Himself to those who care for the truth.

Apart from raising Islam to attack the salvation message (muslims are naturally trained to hate Christians so that they would even give an ear to hear the gospel). Additionally, when you go into the occult today, the attack is on JESUS. The devil polutes the minds of all occultists to hate Christians and be on a constant war against the church. He knows that the message of the church brings humiliation to his kingdom. A prominent occult symbol is the cross sign made upside down, do you know why? The cross is the symbol of victory over the powers of hell! The devil hates it. In it lies the secret of salvation which the devil hates since he loves to keep humanity under perpetual bondage.

Yes, false miracles abound as well as false Christs, false Churches, false denominations, false pastors, fake Bibles, false doctrines, false gatherings.... Jesus Christ already forewarned us. It isn't a surprise at all.

However, He that dwells within us is greater than the 'he' that is in the world. The devil is not attacking the gospel without a reason.

Of course there doesn't have to be false Mohammeds, or false mosques or false quorans. Only the original is liable to have counterfeits. Seek the truth my brother. Religion is built only on falsehood. Neither Christianity nor Islam can save, only Jesus saves, and He saves totally.

Those who have experienced spiritual rebirth know that it's not a myth. It is a vivid experience that ushers you into a new realm. The devil fears such people. If you want to know more about them, read the Acts of Apostles. Those happenings in that book are still our experiences today. The devil tried hard to shut it out of Christiendome but light always prevail over darkness. I had my first encounter with the Holy Ghost on the 8th of July, 2000. My life has not been the same ever since. My father was a chronic Muslim but he died an Evangelist (Glory to God!).

AntiChristian:
Nope! Everything on earth was created by God. Do you mean the sea existed before the earth was created or it was contained in the land? Even if the latter is what you meant, the sea was still a creation of God albeit not created on its own! And even this creation story is not scientifically accurate.

Actually i see no power than deceit and brainwashing!

I once saw my neighbor's daughter a young girl say about 8-10years. As i was about to enter my flat i saw a dove in front of my door, the dove was unable to fly probably injured or something. As my wife was not around and i was tired i had to just go in and look for what to eat. The dove moved away as i approached the door moving towards the young girl's house. I was inside and i started hearing her say something like " i bound you bird in Jesus's name" Let the fire of the holy ghost burn you". She kept uttering similar words....till later she gave up saying this one is too stubborn o! This same family had rat infestation and had to call in their pastors several times for deliverance from big rats that were sent to them from their village people. It was when i permitted them to enter my house to get behind their apartment and repair their window, etc that the infestation stopped. Can you see how Christianity has brainwashed them?

See, assuming this is true, there should be no demon in Nigeria anymore due to the number of Churches binding and inviting fire around.
Churches make more money (Net Profit) than any industry in Nigeria.

I am convinced that God created the seas. That's not the object of my post. What I'm showing you is your defective logic that says, since the creation of the soul was not directly inferred, then, soul equals spirit. Since you aren't spiritual, these types of discussion are actually beyond you. I would discuss this only with people born of the Spirit.

Islam is the great indoctrinator, brainwasher and deceiver. It was mainly invented to stop men from receiving the salvation that Jesus brought. Islam never teaches, it only indoctrinates and brainwashes. The adherents are made to repeat words and sentences continually without reasoning and without permission to ask questions. Right from youth, the Muslim child is so indoctrinated that before he's 10, he's already formed. Christianity on the other hand teaches, allows questions and debates. A Christian is a Christian because he was convinced. The first generations of Muslims embraced Islam by force, under the threat of death. The following generation are then groomed through indoctrination.

Regarding the storyline you painted about your neighbor, that's not Christianity, that's their Church doctrine. It would be wrong of you to generalise. Not all Christians would respond the same way to that same situation.

Now, I want you to understand that there are many professing Christians who are Christians by religion. Christianity isn't a religion. Most so called Christians you see around you are not Christians in the real sense of the word.

A Christian is one who has encountered Jesus and His born of the Holy Ghost and has become a disciple of Jesus Christ. Very few people fall into this category.

The demons of hell know a Christian when they see one. They tremble at the power of God pulsating through the believer.

Recently, a girl was brought to me who happened to be a witch. She wanted to leave the coven but for fear of bring killed, she could not. Strong demons were residing in her. As I began to speak to the girl, the fire of the Holy Ghost made the spirits of witchcraft uncomfortable. The girl fell off the chair she was sitting on and lay on the floor trembling. That's power. That's Christianity.

The devil has brought a lot of dilution into the truth so that even the truth is difficult to decipher. However, God is still working in the world today to bring the knowledge of the truth to all those whose hearts hunger after it.

If you think Christianity is defined by what you see around you, you're making a grave mistake. Those your neighbors may not even be Christians in the real sense of the word.

SpiritualOtUshe:
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Most times, the problems we face in life are due to the bad energy living with us in our room.
One thing you need to know is, that any room you sleep to see the next day needs to be spiritually purified from Bad energy.

When there is Bad Energy in your room, you might be experiencing the below mentions:

1. Having Bad Dream: Because there's a spirit tormenting you in your room you don't know.

2. Always feel someone is in the room with you, most especially at night.

3. Thinking negative about yourself. Scared of what you don't even know.

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This is occultism. Only Jesus can get rid of demons in your life. The bad energies you're talking about are demons.

AntiChristian:
You can't establish this from your Bible. When a spirit enters the dead it quickens it.!

Now, you're getting it. The same spirit that quickens the dead, isn't the same to quicken itself. It quickened the soul and the soul BECAME a living soul. Except you mean to say soul=body.

AntiChristian:
You can't establish this from your Bible. When a spirit enters the dead it quickens it.

Gen 1:9-10
And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so. God called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” And God saw that it was good.

Anyone who does not believe in Christianity should be called that name!

Christianity just never added up to rational reasoning to me!

God ṣaid, "Let the water under the sky be gathered...." The waters pre-existed, and were only commanded to gather to one place, not created. Hence water = land according to your logic.

Christianity may sound foolish to you but its power cannot be denied:

1Cor. 1:21
"For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.'

1Cor. 1:23-24
'...but we preach Christ crucifiedA) a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, 24 but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God."

The only thing the devil fears in the whole world is the gospel of salvation through the crucification and resurrection of Christ.

All demons of hell, and all occult personalities, witches and wizards and all the grand masters of occultism and the demons they serve cannot withstand the power of His resurrection.

AntiChristian:
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

He created the seas.

These are clearly stated.

If God breathed in to Adam's and this makes him a living soul then the spirit that came in to Adam is the soul.

Spirit= Soul.

The Spirit that came into Adam is clearly not the soul. Otherwise, it should read that he became a living body, not a living soul. The spirit that came into Adam wasn't dead, it was always alive, and therefore has not need to BECOME something living.

Please quote the scriptures that says God created the sea.

By the way, how did you become antichristian?

OBALOLA55:
YES I WILL MEET HOLY PROPHET YASHUA WHEN I CROSS OVER

Get this right. You wouldn't meet Him as a prophet.

AntiChristian:
Where did the soul come from?

From the body?
From the spirit?
Others.... do mention!

That you don't know where it comes from does not imply that it doesn't exist. One this is sure, it was not alive, but when the spirit came, it became a living soul.

Going by you logic, we should also say that water = land. Since we never read that God created water, that means water = land.