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Riofidelio:
You can say i'm not touching the deeper thoughts in you but i know it's not that easy to accept a defeat, so let me help you out again.

You may need the help.

Most people don't want anyone or anything to dictate how they're going to live their lives that's why majority are running away from Faith

You are wrong. There are only 1.3 billion atheists worldwide. That means 84% of the human population still have faith in something.

because with Faith they need to be submissive to an unseen force(that cannot be proven or disproven).

True right. I made an addition so don't vex.

But they're just deceiving themselves because many of your professors in a showoff to say they're not following anybody's instructions have become like Mad Men.

This doesn't make sense. From the way you say professor you mean pastor. Science is not a religion oga. Besides I don't treat professors like godsent supermen who are infallible.Before you say you are not, see the below

But they're just deceiving themselves because many of your pastors in a showoff to say they're following God's instructions have become like Mad Men.

They try to do things like not bathing in the morning if they agreed to bath at all,

Name one that does this or I report you for posting false info. And because they don't bath doesn't mean I should copy them.

brushing their teeth before eating if at all, combing their hairs, shaving their beard

Jonnydon22 hopefullandord come o. So you are saying that because you follow God's instructions you don't do the above!! . That's unhygienic and people won't associate with you. Besides all the christians I know do the above and advice their children to follow it. What is your own doctrine sef?

in fact they do most things abstractly simply because "they want to live without common stipulated routine"

Mention who they are. I do things that are beneficial for my health. I don't care what you do so far as it doesn't harm you and you take necessary precautions.

If you must know my friend they are totally confused now but they won't tell you because of shame,

Who are they?

as they're using the confusion in religion as an excuse to keep going towards uncertainty.

You are the only confused person here.

You'll have noticed that after a long time fruitless arguments amongst them with huge grammars,they'll console themselves by comparing themselves to religion.

Which fruitless arguments. You are just saying bullshit with no proof. Honestly, it's hilarious.

That's all your worthless theories is only excuses to take a firm stand against religion

Well gravity is only a theory, yet everyone even the religious accept it.

but as i've told you "those people you know aren't Christians"

Not a true scotsman fallacy.

if you come in contact with true Christians

Which denomination out of the almost 40,000 are they in.

you'll go home and have sleepless nights because your hearts will start pumping faster due to the words of wisdom spoken by a REAL Christian

Are you a REAL christian? If so can you give me those words of wisdom that will cause me to have the aforementioned sleepless nights?

Riofidelio:
I've told you what faith means and also what caused the misinterpretation.

No you haven't. What caused the misinterpretation is that you said something that no basis in the bible

But all these are just fruitless arguments so let's get to WORK, if you're not satisfied with my definition of Faith at least you quoted James 2:26 "FAITH without WORK is DEAD"

Actually that bible verse makes no sense. If you don't know what you are doing, then your faith and work are useless. But if you know what you are doing, you won't even need faith because you will know the outcome of what you are doing.

To me living Faith must be effective and not ineffective so it could be of benefits to those having it and their neighbors even if they had no faith!

Read above.

So let's talk about the "aliens", what have scientists got to say about Who are they? Where they came from? What they're doing? How can their activities affect us? What will later become of them?

Aliens haven't been discovered yet. That is why this thread is called how the discovery of aliens would affect religion.

I'm sure your faculty will be interested in all of these even if you're shielding it off!

I don't think you know what faculty is. I study Medical lab science.

Gadodoko:
WIND IS INVISSIBLE YET MEASURED USING IT PROPERTY, PRESSURE SAME. U NEED TO FIND D IDEAL PROPERTY OF GOD AND USE IT TO MEARURE HIS GREATNESS

First of all, pressure is a property of a substance.

And secondly, what is the name of this "ideal" property and where can I find it?

Riofidelio:
With the way i've been responding to your comments, do you sense something like a deluded person having nothing worthwhile to share regarding knowledge?

Yes.

Of course you'll have silenced me with your sarcasm but because you're puzzled at the high level of wisdom and reasonableness in a person professing FAITH that you've concluded is meaningless that's why you're now having a second thought!

There is no high level of wisdom and reasonableness coming from you. I guess you had faith I was having second thoughts right?

One of your professors 65

Which one? His name please. And science is not a religion. It is the observation of nature.[/quote]met one of us though a girl of about 17 years preaching and teaching people about faith so he called the young girl and said "let me advise you my child, this book(Bible)that you're carrying about was written by some people so try doing something worthwhile with your youth rather than wasting your time following this old man(pointing to an elderly Christian)"[/quote]The old man was right if she was nigerian. Buhari has killed our economy and she should look for a job so she can have a stable lifestyle
Even if she was a foreigner, his advice still applies. She should be getting skills that will help her in life.

My beautiful sister first thanked him then tactfully asked the professor "sir have you ever studied the Bible?" professor responded "no,i just read it"

What is tactful here? And besides scientists can be christians too you know. Science isn't a religion.

my sister then said "Sir i perceived that you're an elite, but how could you boldly utter such statement about a book you never studied?" Our young sister has a point

This makes sense.

so professor became dumbfounded,then he decided to study the Bible and the irony of it is that he insisted on studying with no other person but the same girl.

Maybe he was sexually attracted to her and he used the bible study as excuse. In fact sef, this makes more sense. You yourself said she is beautiful.

Today this professor is an efficient Bible student apologetic

Fixed.

that's fully competent and completely equipped to handle serious topics apart from religion.

I'm guessing he is incompetent and poorly equipped to handle religion.

Why? Jesus penis is now using him to silence scientists who thought they're more knowledgeable that Christians!

They most likely don't care or are wondering how the man could be so stupid. Besides Atheists often know more about the religion they left than those who are still in it.

Riofidelio:
"FAITH is the assured expectations of things hoped for the EVIDENT DEMONSTRATION of REALITIES though NOT SEEN" Why not inquire thoroughly first before concluding on what FAITH truly meant? Your perception is totally based on the interpretation from a translator who isn't one of the inspired writers! And because of your impatience you've discarded anything having to do with Faith hastily without considering what any other person has got to say regarding Faith! Helloooooooo do you easily conclude on a textbook from a professor on a research or compare with other textbooks as a competent student? You're just exposing your impatience on this matter, please calm down and ask thought provoking questions instead of jumping to conclusions due to the handiwork of some misinformed translators.

Hebrews 11:1 New King James Version (NKJV)

By Faith We Understand
11 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

So NKJV is a misinformed translator. And besides this was what you had to say on faith

Riofidelio:
Let me start by saying you're confused by mixing credulity with faith! Well Faith is not about praying for magic but practical applications of accumulated information for lasting benefits (wisdom)

I pointed out your inaccuracy and instead of you to be humble you are here writing stories on how that verse is to be interpreted. Your hypocrisy is astonishing.

armylord:
yes Dominion on Earth for the temporary time we on Earth, our souls belong to Heaven, we being on Earth is like a test we have to pass

If we were to have dominion on the earth for a temporary time, why did god tell adam not to eat the fruit unless he dies.

The fact that God is testing me shows that he allowed evil into the world. It also shows he is insecure and cannot trust us.

armylord:
we ain't robots bro, we both know the difference between,en Good and evil

I know. But adam and eve didn't know until they ate that fruit. Why did God even put that tree there sef? He should have also known that the serpent will trick them since he is omniscient.

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he gave us freedom to do wah we want but only of Good,

That's cool. But couldn't God have come to tell everyone this at once so we would believe it.

Besides Jesus died for us and washed our sin, no matter how grieveous our sins re. he still forgives us.

So even if I was one of those people behind plateau massacre, all I have to do is accept jesus as my lord and saviour and I'm forgiven and accepted into heaven. Awesome.

the Devil is unrepentant, he hates us, he's jealous (humans) of us.

How do you know this? Why would a powerful spirit entity be jealous of puny humans like us?

The Devil is too proud to submit himself and ask for Forgiveness,

You know this how? What bible verse please.

reason he's trying his possible best to drag us with him into hell, the Devil only comes to steal, kill and Destroy,

Why does God allow him to do this if he loves us?

Jesus gives eternal life,make ur choice, Good or bad, Heaven or hell ,Right or wrong, no matter ur sins , he'll always forgive u, he loves us so much

He loves us so much that he gives us a book filled with contradictions and inaccuracies and sends us imperfect humans to preach his message and when we don't believe thanks to the intelligence he gave us, he punishes us with hellfire.

pyyxxaro:
Let her come to my chamber for cleansing

How do you know she doesn't have a boyfriend.

armylord:
God never meant for his creations (humans) to go there, it was when the Devil started deceiving us and our heart grew with evil , no evil soul can make Heaven, reason they re sent to hell , Believe me it hurts Jesus Everytime a soul goes there ,he cries , but there's nothing he can do. for u have to accept Jesus as ur Lord and savior , for he is the way ,the truth and the life, he loves u unconditionally

But God is omnipotent can't he just remove the sin in our hearts including the devil and his angels and welcome us into heaven.

Besides, the bible says god created humans to have dominion over the earth and not got to heaven. Where did you get this doctrine from?

Gadodoko:
WHY NOT

How do you measure him

armylord:
bro it won't be funny when fire burns u eternally

If god is Omnibenevolent, why does hell exist?

Kingsley1000:
it just a matter of Time,He will reveal himself to you

How did he reveal himself to you? Or were you simply born a christian

despi64:
Can you measure wind, the athmosephere?

Yes we can. With wind vane, barometer etc.

Can you measure God.

Jamariwolff:
I sin sexually everyday , either by masturbation or fornication. Yes, every single day, i commit sexual sin.

Pls help me someone, the urge is overpowering me. I can't do nothing, i feel empty afterwards but still.....

Oh Lord.

Just accept your horniness. There's nothing wrong with it. Just make sure you use a condom when having sex so you won't get std or pregnancy.

Riofidelio:
Let me start by saying you're confused by mixing credulity with faith! Well Faith is not about praying for magic but practical applications of accumulated information for lasting benefits (wisdom) So you're misinformed my friend, those people you're referring to aren't Christians but credulous individuals with nothing in their hearts as Faith. Let me educate you a little about Faith: Imagine these misinformed persons claiming they believe in Jesus of Nazareth, praying when they've lazily abandoned what they're supposed to do before exams namely "studying". Jesus was taken to a high place and Satan asked Him to jump down if Jesus actually trust God's guidance,whereas Jesus knows exactly how to walk home without jumping. What was Satan trying to achieve? Of course he was trying to make Jesus do a showoff! Can we say Jesus has no FAITH that God can protect Him? certainly not, but He insisted that's not necessary. Matthew 4:6,7 So how can someone who now claims to believe in that same Jesus leave what he/she should do and later start asking God to perform magic for him/her to pass exams ahead of those who actually studied for the exams? Proverbs 13:4 Please my friend you knew NOTHING about Faith or Christianity so calm down to understand what the two words really means!

At the bolded, Hebrews 11 says that faith is being sure of things you cannot see. It is not the practical application of information, but the belief in things in which one has no info on.

It is either you didn't know about this verse or you knew, but chose to give your own interpretation, which ended up being contradictory to that bible chapter.

Riofidelio:
Above and below is your derogatory remarks and sarcastic comments about other people's views, simply because you can't perceive anything worthwhile in persons having Faith.

Faith is a worthless concept. The bible even says that faith without works is dead. But if I give a hardworking atheist or christian or muslim a task that they all have the qualifications for, they will complete the work regardless of their belief or lack thereof.
In my school Babcock university, during our exams, people prayed and prayed. Every morning as I woke up and was going to exam hall, I would see several guys praying like they were trying to perform resurrection. So after our exams finished and our results were posted. I went to check on noticeboard for results. Unsurprisingly, the results were dependent on how much one studied and not how much faith you had. One guy who was the choirmaster of our church and was always praying got a carryover, several bad people who were sexually promiscious passed with 4.0 GPA's and above.

That's why i also rubbished your so called faculty along with all your lecturers and professors who were able to notice aliens but can't discern any further information afterwards! So i'm sorry if my comments hurts

You never rubbished anything. We haven't been able to notice aliens yet so that next statement is wrong. Your comments don't hurt at all.

Riofidelio:
OH are you now feeling the heat just like our Muslim friend? I'm sorry if my comment is exposing the futility of your prideful trusted faculty called science. Please don't mind my impudence, i thought it won't be fair catching the ball without trowing it back to you as you're fund of exposing falsehood and stupidity in religion. Well as you can see the aliens are not selective in their attacks so don't think anyone is not affected,their presence is affecting every living creature but most especially humans like you and me.Please don't be annoyed with me if science can't give you any info regarding this but the Bible only mentioned where they came from,how and when they got here, what they're here to do, how to avoid been controlled by them, how long their activities will take,what will be their end and how things will be after they're gone(DESTROYED).

I understand you now. You aren't talking about extraterrestial life, you are talking about demons and angels.

Can you at least bring one evidence on how they affect me personally

feodan:
a crime against my self. I did this not to hurt anyone but my self

Then brother leave. You can find a job elsewhere and be sending cash to your family.

Religion is not going to help you here. Rational thinking will

Riofidelio:
Please when next you're opening a podium for public discuss make sure you restrain your post and maintain your track on Science,stop tampering with words like "religion" or "worship" or "Bible" because science taught you so many useless theories but nothing for REAL lasting benefits! Granted there is confusion in religion just as there is in every other schools of thought including amongst scientists,but that's no reason for you to start spewing irritating thoughts about other organizations. If a single Christian stands in the midst of a million scientists and allowed to talk,all of you will marvel at the wisdom from above which is far far unreachable for scientists with all their ego and accumulated informations that's of no lasting benefits other than just to impress foolish mortals! (Act of Apostles 26:28) The only thing your professors can do is to eliminate a Christian with destructive devices that Satan taught them to invent for killing themselves,but we're not scared of them because Jesus has energized US with confirmed reassuring words(matthew10:28) So when they are gone as we'll live forever on this same earth in perfect peace and sound health(Psalms 37:7-11) God is prepared to ruin all of them for ruining HIS planet(earth) Revelations 11:18

Guy at this point you are saying nonsense. Why don't we just go back to the topic and see how christianity will be affected by alien discovery.

feodan:
My life is at risk to be honest with u, there's a town i can'nt walk there in day light i will be teared into pieces.
my story is worse my broda. If i narrate my true story to u. U'll hate me, cuz i have done worse thing. That anybody can ever imagine.
pls the lord will keep u and i pray u'll neva be a victim of backsliding.

Is it a crime? If so, have you been punished appropiately?

If your answer to those two questions is yes/no then I suggest you move away because humans in general are hateful.

Riofidelio:
You're really funny my friend, perhaps you have met misinformed religious title holders and they've fed with their man-made doctrines and traditions.Please ask questions about your topic of discuss but if you want to know what the Bible teaches you can go to that after all it's obvious it's the only available source of useful information regarding your topic but you're not yet interested in what the book says on the topic!

Now I know you are just a troll. Please stop quoting me

asawanathegreat:
All the once wey him dey attend since, wetin we don benefit inside?

He said we were lazy.

Riofidelio:
Why are you jumping to conclusions without asking questions? Who told you all those omni this and that? Well as i said previously, you only need to ask questions and it's like you're mixing it all up now. Is this how your professors taught you to deal with difficult issues? Instead of asking questions pertaining to the subject of discuss, you are jumping to conclusions in and running ahead of the one you're supposed to query! I said the topic of discuss secret of "aliens in religion" could be unraveled with wisdom from God's word (Bible) and if you want me to ask you what science said about the aliens and the solution to the problem,perhaps you'll enlighten us instead of fruitless arguments. I'm not surprised because all your leaders both dead and living(Scientists) can only talk and talk about what they can see,whatever they can't see becomes a menace to be left unattended to even if it's an unseen exterminator!

Ok so god is not omnipotent, omniscient or omnibenevolent?

@bolded. I am asking you these questions about your holy book because it is filled with contradictions and inaccuracies. If it has that in it, why should I take you seriously on what it has to say on aliens.

brixton:
I have to follow Moghalu and read up on him, what are his full names? I don’t think Nigeria has changed much, I doubt if an unpopular candidate can even win state level elections. We have got to look beyond perfection in choosing a leader, we will indirectly bring back Buhari if we are split on different soft aspirants. Can Atiku or Donald Duke do the job? The answer is yes, but which one of them is most likely to win a presidential election in Nigeria? Atiku!

I doubt if I can trust Sowore!

Kingsley Chiedu Moghalu. Former UN official.

Riofidelio:
We were created to live forever as youths on esrth with no pains in 100% security and peace of mind. Each man with his own woman,in a house of our choice,having a garden big full of nourishing foods,with animals around to do certain things that we can't as we command them! That is God's plan before creating humans on Earth,i'm sorry it's more than a sentence so can you ask your questions now regarding "aliens"?

So an omnipotent, omniscient and omnibenevolent God's plan was foiled by a snake and two powerless and curious human beings? Ok oo.

brixton:
Seriously my friend are the above names known in my village in Edo State? We are not talking of perfect Nigerians but people that can win a presidential election in our multidimensional country.

Moghalu and sowore are currently moving through each and every state gathering supporters for their election bid.

We cannot vote based on popularity anymore, we need to vote based on quality

Terminator1234g:
"neoteny is a fool"
I can never sell my self. If Buhari or APC is wrong I'll be the first to lambast them. A man like me can never be deceived or bought.

Yet you are here calling me shameless puppet and ipob yoot. If you had gone through my posts, you would have seen I don't support IPOB neither do I support PDP.

In fact, during 2015 I was shouting change like 15million people yet the change was worse for everyone. Change is constant, come 2019 I will vote either moghalu or sowore, hopefully both.

You can continue worshipping buhari

brixton:
For the youths asking who do we vote for? I have asked myself a simple patriotic question; why am I against an Atiku presidency apart from the usual media trials of past leaders? As it stands right now, A perfect Nigerian can not unseat Buhari... we need a man that is dogged to wrestle power from him and there’s no other human in Nigeria that can doggedly fight Buhari and his travellers except Atiku Abubakar. I think we should lean towards him, he will not be as bad as we have right now!

Moghalu, Durotoye and Sowore are currently gathering followers yet you are changing one old man for another.

If you cannot listen to me and change your opinions then you deserve bad leadership

Riofidelio:
Here you go! After studying various science textbook from different profesors whose thinking and lifestyles totally differs with keen interest for years before graduating and resolving to settle your mind in trusting and believing in their fabricated books, you're now demanding that another source of presumed beneficial information should be summarised all in just a SENTENCE! well if you must know that's impossible.You must take your time to listen,ask questions,think deeply about gotten answers,meditate on how practical it is for lasting benefits then you can finally decide whether it's for the good of all visible living creatures. That's what you're to do if you're not biased or partial in your judgement because it's the same process that you undergo before your brains is filled with what you're carrying upstairs now. I can only assure you that this won't cost you more than few days of questions and answers sections,so if you want to verify the answers in the Bible you're free to check it but i'm sure that all the information science has download in your brains is worthless in comparison to the wisdom found in God's word (Bible) Obviously you'll have noticed the i.q in the response you're getting from a Bible student(Christian)!

Oga in layman's terms, what is god's plan for humanity. You can at least do this.

Terminator1234g:
you are right. Especially a shameless puppet called Ruthlessleader

The only puppet here is you, dumbass.

Why don't you go to middlebelt. If you can see those dead bodies and feel the tension, you will regret selling yourself for 30k

Riofidelio:
Science is not in HIS plan for man,HE just want you and i to live peacefully within the planet HE prepared for us as our home so there's nothing as in NOTHING of any lasting benefits man has to do with the heavenly bodies(space) Psalms 115:16 So if YOU'RE honestly discussing about "aliens in religion" you can go on asking any question that comes to your mind "regarding the topic of discuss" and let's see what the Bible has to say!

Give me his plan for us in one sentence and how he intends on achieving that in the other.

Riofidelio:
The Bible is certainly not a science textbook but whenever it touches science you'll marvel at the accuracy of the report considering the time of the record and individuals that pened it down. But the Bible is really an instructional manual from the author of life (God) for the only intelligent earthly creatures "man",so as to live peacefully and to resolve our problems,not to teach us how to travel to the moon,move faster from one place to another,build skyscrapers just to see far distance,communicate with people living far away,watch them in a windowlike invention called TV and so on. What's the benefit of all these side attractions when we're not able to live peacefully with ourselves? Instead we're inventing self destructive devices daily that's posing treath to our very survival! Please science might seems appealing to many but to honesthearted people science is of no lasting benefits! The rapid discoveries in Science is due to unseen intelligent creatures around US now, their plan is to distract humans from paying attention to God's word (Bible).These creatures are mighty in power so they can do many wonderful things to divert your attention. But the bitter truth is that these creatures have lived for thousands of years "they are here because God has pronounced death on them now so they are spitefully looking for humans to perish along with them". Genesis 3:15,2Peter 2:4,Jude 6,Revelations 12:9,12

If god wanted us to believe in him, he would have at least been scientifically accurate in his message to us.