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Gggg102:
if choosing to die for others is suicide, then Jesus committed suicide.

Why did God use such a barbaric way to save us?

Couldn't he have just said I remove all sin and there, no more sin.

And don't talk about freewill, if we had freewill we would be able to choose our parents so that we would all follow the one true religion

Ijogbande:
What do you stand for?
What do you believe in?
Who do you support?
What is your stand?
Grow up and stop your rants and get a better approach.
You are either for a government or agaisnt it.
That you are against it does not mean everyone should be against it and that you are for it does not mean everyone should be for it.

Look at this fool oo. I just checked all your posts and all they do is insult anybody that criticises yemi.

30k per month is the highest you have ever received no wonder you defend him with all your life

Your own is OMC(osinbajo media cow).

Newest BMC recruits are here just check their profiles. April 26, and june 5-6

I pity all of you fools. PDP AND APC have ruled over us for a combined 19 years with only incompetence nepotism and corruption to show for it and you are still thinking of voting only those two in.

You all deserve herdsmen. You all deserve poverty for your families. You all deserve the growing amount of disdain and hatred other countries have for us.

If pdp/apc win in 2019, I'm running away.

iaamxavier:
WHITESS be making us proud

Even dating back to the war
We still gain our Ground
Where are the sophisticated blackss?

By just changing some words everyone can see how racist your post is. Please drop this attitude in fute comments

Lukuluku69:
Been doing that. I mean the Quran reading. And I do read whatever anyone has to say about my Faith. I know that site very well, they have been regurgitating the same stuff their forerunners peddled.

Have you read this part of the quran:

Volume 9, Book 93, Number 579:
Bukhari
Narrated Abu Dharr:

The Prophet said, Gabriel came to me and gave me the glad tidings that anyone who died without worshipping anything besides Allah, would enter Paradise. I asked (Gabriel), 'Even if he committed theft, and even if he committed illegal sexual intercourse?' He said, '(Yes), even if he committed theft, and even if he Committed illegal sexual intercourse."

Please wake up and realise that this and all other religions are shit.

Lukuluku69:
That site is owned and operated by the Jews, do you sin sincerely believe they will come out fair on Islam? We know their antecedent.

Why can't you just read your quran to see if what they are saying is correct instead of dismissing it.

pocohantas:
The 'superior' gender

Parents should be very watchful of their kids.
Paedophiles on the rise.

Please stop this. A woman could have commited the crime as well

I hope this man insults us again. Nigerians cannot afford to have him as our president again

Kratos just has to be in this list. Although his son atreus may replace him when thor kills him

Riofidelio:
Obviously there are other INVISIBLE higher and much more intelligent living creatures in the space but their special interest and focus is the only planet having VISIBLE intelligent creatures "humans" which is our earth! (Proverbs 8:31) Today majority of these high beings are here with US for a reason revealed some 2000 years ago. (Revelations 12:7-9) And no doubt they can influence lesser creatures to do things unpredictably acting out of their own freewill and intellect.(Matthew 17:18,Act 16:16,2Corinthians 4:4 1John 5:19)Astronauts have tried to know if lives could be found on other planets and their works have been really commendable,but i think we need to search within our planet for clues to know better about outer space because from all indications there is a SUPREME BEING behind all of these and i also suspect HE will have some information to enlighten US about the solar system.(Genesis 1:1) Granted, misinformed arrogant and self acclaimed professors will be around to pass some deluded theories but i strongly believe we can still unravel the hidden secrets if we're honest and sincere in our research. (Proverbs 2:1-5) Adiós!

How do you know the supreme being isn't Brahma or Ra, or could there even be a council of supreme beings like the greek gods. Afterall they are older than the bible and christianity and the civilizations that worshipped them were more advanced than the israelites.

Lukuluku69:
It wasn't not Alexander the Great that that verse talked about. The highlighted was the opinion of Yusuf Ali. And the Quran never said the Earth was Flat! And lol, the Ancient Greeks never ventured beyond the Status of one idol of their ( can't remember the name now) why? So that they won't fall off at the other end. Read other commentators opinion on that Traveller. The Quran explicitly stated that the Earth we have made Egg shaped.

Oga my previous post has proven that either you don't do research before making a claim or you are lying for Allah. Let me even tell you what you will do now; you will focus on one small part of my post to make another foolish claim to defend your rubbish quran.

This link I will provide has a detailed list of every scientific error in the quran.
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Scientific_Errors_in_the_Quran

Lukuluku69:
It wasn't not Alexander the Great that that verse talked about. The highlighted was the opinion of Yusuf Ali. And the Quran never said the Earth was Flat! And lol, the Ancient Greeks never ventured beyond the Status of one idol of their ( can't remember the name now) why? So that they won't fall off at the other end. Read other commentators opinion on that Traveller. The Quran explicitly stated that the Earth we have made Egg shaped.

HOW THE ANCIENT GREEKS PROVED EARTH WAS ROUND OVER 2,000 YEARS AGO
An Ancient Greek mathematician calculated the Earth's circumference without ever leaving home

BUSINESS INSIDER
Thursday 28 December 2017 13:44

In the mid-20th century, we began launching satellites into space that would help us determine the exact circumference of the Earth: 40,030 km. But over 2000 years earlier, a man in Ancient Greece came up with nearly the exact same figure using just a stick and his brain. Following is a transcript of the video.

How an ancient Greek mathematician calculated the Earth's circumference. In the mid-20th century, we began launching satellites into space that would help us determine the exact circumference of the Earth, 40,030 km.

But over 2,000 years earlier in ancient Greece, a man arrived at nearly that exact same figure by putting a stick in the ground. That man was Eratosthenes. A Greek mathematician and the head of the library at Alexandria.

Eratosthenes had heard that in Syene, a city south of Alexandria, no vertical shadows were cast at noon on the summer solstice. The sun was directly overhead. He wondered if this were also true in Alexandria.

So, on June 21 he planted a stick directly in the ground and waited to see if a shadow would be cast at noon. It turns out there was one. And it measured about 7 degrees.

Now, if the sun's rays are coming in at the same angle at the same time of day, and a stick in Alexandria is casting a shadow while a stick in Syene is not, it must mean that the Earth's surface is curved. And Eratosthenes probably already knew that.

The idea of a spherical Earth was floated around by Pythagoras around 500 BC and validated by Aristotle a couple centuries later. If the Earth really was a sphere, Eratosthenes could use his observations to estimate the circumference of the entire planet.

Since the difference in shadow length is 7 degrees in Alexandria and Syene, that means the two cities are 7 degrees apart on Earth's 360-degrees surface. Eratosthenes hired a man to pace the distance between the two cities and learned they were 5,000 stadia apart, which is about 800 kilometres.

He could then use simple proportions to find the Earth's circumference — 7.2 degrees is 1/50 of 360 degrees, so 800 times 50 equals 40,000 kilometers. And just like that, a man 2200 years ago found the circumference of our entire planet with just a stick and his brain.

Lukuluku69:
Which one comes first? The Quranic Verse or what Science says? The Quran says the Sperm drop is a Mingled emission/fluid, Science says it is. I am not reinterpreting anything. If you put any poser to me that I can answer based on what I have read, I will gladly say so. I am not here to win any argument (if we can call this one). I am here to broaden my horizon. Yes, I am a Muslim. I gat no apology for that. Like I said earlier, I am not responsible for you neither are you for me. Each laden soul bear it burden. And at the bolded, I will appreciate if you stop saying that. I am not in any way dishonest intellectually. I told you, I am no Scholar of Arabic, but I know a bit of English. And if like you pointed out that if Science today says things contrary to what the Quran says, then Science has to prove it. Between, the Quran is not a Science book. It only call the attention of people with understand to these phenomenon for them to ponder and accept it message.

Ogbeni we know thanks to science that semen comes from the testicles and not the freaking backbone so the quran is wrong so stop shifting the goalposts.

You still haven't brought forth any explanation on why the quran claimed alexander the great saw where the sun set on earth. Not only is that a scientific inaccuracy, it is also historically inaccurate. Alexander was a whole prince so he like other educated greeks of the time knew the earth was round unlike the quran which says it is flat. They also knew the sun didn't set on earth.

But admit it; If the quran was scientifically accurate you wouldn't need to form any half-baked explanations for the nonsense there.

johnydon22:
Doesn't such discovery give insights on abiotic origins which in fact is directly contradictory to religious stance on life creation?

Yeah I guess so. But Apologetics would use some insane leap of logic and christians wouldn't have to think too hard. But I could be wrong.

Doesn't such new proven information solidify arguments against the necessity of God for man's beginning thus ending such argument?

Yes it is. But it will be just like how even though evolution is a fact, people still argue it.

Discovery of life outside earth is a scenario Christian theology is not equipped to explain.

So the whole concept falls apart.[/qoute]
Actually not. You can actually go online and see how they have apologetics for it and this lukuluku69 is here bringing up rubbish explanations for the quran doesn't say semen is produced inbetween ribs and backbone while gleefully ignoring the verse about the sun setting in mud.



[quote]And the implication of Alien contact with common folks would be?

I can't really say. But it the depends on the level.

GavelSlam:
Your type have challenged me on this forum and left with their Ekuke tails between their legs.

Oh sorry, you want to tell me you are a taxi driver or is Uber?

You get work be dat.

This money is not for you.

You can get your brother to key into it though.

Do you seriously think five thousand naira per home will alleviate their poverty when simple bag of rice is 18000?

They could have built world hospitals in all 36 states of nigeria but I guess that sharing 5000 to an one household for votes is a better strategy.

You and all other bmc's are evil bastards

Lukuluku69:
. Yusuf Ali: "Verily We created Man from a drop of mingled sperm, in order to try him: So We gave him (the gifts), of Hearing and Sight."



What are the components parts of sperm?
Spermatic liquid is formed by various secretions which come from the following glands:
a) the testicles: the secretion of the male genital gland contains spermatozoons, which are elongated cells with a long flagellum; they are bathed in a sero-fluid liquid.
b) the seminal vesicles. these organs are reservoirs of spermatozoons and are placed near the prostate gland; they also secrete their own liquid but it does not contain any fertilizing agents.
c) the prostate gland: this secretes a liquid which gives the sperm its creamy texture and characteristic odour.
d) the glands annexed to the urinary tract: Cooper's or Méry's glands secrete a stringy liquid and Littré's glands give off mucous. These are the origins of the 'mingled liquids' which the Qur'an would appear to refer to.

So you admit the quran was scientifically inaccurate?

Lukuluku69:
Let me straight away tell you that I am no Scholar of the Quran. I don't know Arabic but I know a little of English and my Language Yoruba. At the bolded, ALL of them are your opinion and nothing more. Bring clear verses that says " and We created the Heavens solid. I hope you know what is meant by Figure of Speech? And talking about a piece of the sky falling on someone, how would you describe a situation where Asteroids hit a community?

Okay the verses weren't clear. But please don't ignore the first two points or do you mean to say that they as well are figurez of speech because you would be intellectually dishonest

MrSensor:
satanist spotted. do you think universe and its habitat(females and males) automatically created themselves? idiot.

How you take know say person no create god

Lukuluku69:
I am not Allah so kindly direct your enquiries to Him on His inability to send an Angel that will abide/stay with people in order not to deviate from the message. It is Ok if you don't belief in God, I am not responsible for what you belief neither are you responsible for my Faith. As for the Quran being scientifically illiterate, well I am unaware of that. Most Books I come across tells me that the Quran confirm most scientifically proven phenomenon. May be you can point me to Books that prove the Quran wrong.

Well here you go:

Qur'an 76:2:
Yusuf Ali: "Verily We created Man from a drop of mingled sperm, in order to try him: So We gave him (the gifts), of Hearing and Sight."
Arabic: .إِنَّا خَلَقْنَا ٱلْإِنسَٰنَ مِن نُّطْفَةٍ أَمْشَاجٍ نَّبْتَلِيهِ فَجَعَلْنَٰهُ سَمِيعًۢا بَصِيرًا
Qur'an 86:5-8:
Yusuf Ali: "Now let man but think from what he is created! He is created from a drop emitted - Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs: Surely (Allah) is able to bring him back (to life)!"
Arabic: .إِنَّهُۥ عَلَىٰ رَجْعِهِۦ لَقَادِرٌ .يَخْرُجُ مِنۢ بَيْنِ ٱلصُّلْبِ وَٱلتَّرَآئِبِ. خُلِقَ مِن مَّآءٍ دَافِقٍ. فَلْيَنظُرِ ٱلْإِنسَٰنُ مِمَّ خُلِقَ
Here, the assertion is made that semen comes from between the backbone and ribs. This is false for obvious reasons

Sun sets in a muddy spring
The Qur'an states that Alexander the Great traveled to where the sun sets and to where the sun rises. This is impossible on a spherical earth, since there is no specific place where the sun goes "down". Furthermore, the Qur'an states that the sun literally goes into muddy water when it "sets".
"Till, when he reached the setting-place of the sun, he found it setting in a muddy spring, and found a people thereabout. We said: O Dhu'l-Qarneyn! Either punish or show them kindness. .... Till, when he reached the rising-place of the sun, he found it rising on a people for whom We had appointed no shelter therefrom." (Qur'an 18:86-90).

The sky is solid
Numerous Qur'an verses state or imply that the sky is solid:
"Then He ordained them seven heavens in two Days and inspired in each heaven its mandate; and We decked the nether heaven with lamps, and rendered it inviolable. That is the measuring of the Mighty, the Knower," (Qur'an 41:12). This verse implies that the "nether heaven" is impenetrable.
"Who hath created seven heavens in harmony. Thou (Muhammad) canst see no fault in the Beneficent One's creation; then look again: Canst thou see any rifts ?" (Qur'an 67:3). This verse implies that there are no holes or cracks in the heavens; it's impossible for space to have holes or cracks (in the classical sense), unless space is solid, like a dome over the Earth.
"And We have built above you seven strong (heavens), And have made (therein) a shining lamp (sun)," (Qur'an 78:12-13). This verse states that the heavens are strong; it is difficult for "nothing" to be strong. Perhaps, instead, the Qur'an heavens are actually physical objects.
"See they not what is before them and behind them, of the sky and the earth? If We wished, We could cause the earth to swallow them up, or cause a piece of the sky to fall upon them. Verily in this is a Sign for every devotee that turns to Allah (in repentance)." (Qur'an 34:6-12). It is impossible for a piece of he sky to fall and hit someone unless the sky is solid.
This is despite claims that the Qur'an predicts space travel.

Lukuluku69:
Islam is not trash. As for the creation stories being different all around, blame that on Men. Men embellished the stories and some simply cook one in the brains.

Ok islam is not trash. Why didn't Allah send one angel to preach his message to them and after that stay with them to make sure they don't deviate from his message.

Why is the quran so scientifcally illiterate.

Neoteny:
The underside of my scrotum is finer than you, shovel-face.

And if you don't want your flat nose shown online, don't plaster your ugly mug on social media, you greasy piece of shiit.

Why am I even talking to a minor?

I joined NL when you were in your diapers.

Look at what your life looks like, Jonah

Keep giving me followers on twitter oo.

An idiot is an idiot. Nothing you do to me will make me stop saying the truth you BMC

Lukuluku69:
Ok. Let us do it this way. Have you ever read the Vedas? The Puranas? You mean they never talked about a Supreme God? Please find time to re-read them. The pantheon of Gods by the Hindus, surely someone must have made mention of them. My friend it is not demonstrably false to claim that a messenger existed amongst all people. That statement is over the board. To show you that what I am saying is true, go thru the History of every known people. A belief in a god/God is found amongst them.

If allah sent a messenger to every nation why do we not see the EXACT SAME CREATION STORY in every culture and people?

Face it. Islam is trash

johnydon22:
And if these life forms are just microbes it wouldn't affect religions?

Considering the fact that religions are stil going strong after all our advances as a species, I don't see how the discovery of a bacterium on enceladus will affect religion in any profound way. I think that for us to say religion will be affected meaningfully, the doctrines of the next generation will be almost unrecognizable to the immediate past one

Let us picture it this way, the Christian cosmogony paints a universe that is duly made with man as the masterpiece of the creator. In christian conception the cosmos started with the genesis narration and will end with the coming of Christ where everything is phased out to be created again. Now finding life everywhere else in the universe will imply new questions being injected into the christian narrative.

I agree with you but only if it is a civilization level alien or caveman level.

Are they subject to the original sin?
Death of jesus concerns them too?
Were they also created by God?
Does God speak with them just as he speaks to us?

There are almost 40,000 christian denominations and doctrines. There are likely to be many answers to these simple questions rather than accepting christianity/religion is bullshit.

I think a more advanced race is less likely to be religious. So what if they have no religion in the first place?

They could have a secular ideology that is an evolution of religion and if they are outright atheists/agnostics they may as well choose to deal only with scientists/secularists and use them(us) to govern earth or something

Neoteny:
Who's this snot-nosed 13 year old talking here?

Just look at this effeminate punk.

Fukk off. Go grow some pubes before you're allowed to talk to your betters, you fukking greasy-haired kid.

I know say I fine pass you and your entire family join. Instead of you to go and get sensel you are posting private information.

Butterflyleo:
If you had a modicum of common sense you would pause and carefully analyse the entire scenario and not be bigoted.

The presidential elections are fast approaching and then suddenly we are having all manner of killings everywhere. Something that wasn't so 2 years ago is suddenly now a daily occurrence.

Some persons are stirring the waters of hatred behind the scenes and watching people like you reacting in ignorance to it while further giving them the results they want as they muddy the waters of Nigeria with their songs of ethnic Intolerance.

The same thing happened in jonathans time as the Chibok girls were kidnapped. So I could as well say APC was causing hatred behind the scenes also. You see why I say you are dumb.

Dalaman budaatum frank317 please come and carry your delusional friend back to religious section.

Butterflyleo:
The problems of Nigeria is like a hydra headed monster. The government of the day is doing all they can . surely no government would want a bad record on their hands as that would negatively affect their appraisal.

Common sense should let you know that they are doing all they can. Its quite obvious that the present day killings is a carefully orchestrated scheme by some quarters in order to score cheap political points.

Someone is surely behind the scenes pulling the strings of this current mayhem and playing deadly politics with the likes of you and me and those who have died. It reminded me of the comment by the late Azazi regarding the origin of boko haram when he said PDP is boko haram and Boko haram is PDP . that statement was profound d coming form the then national security adviser and a few weeks after that proclamation he was "killed".

It should show you how reckless bloodshed has been politicized in Nigeria and how it began. Today we cannot really say the so called herdsmen have not been infiltrated by the same boko haram or those sympathetic to them because really if you look at it, some of these killings are entirely senseless and just carried out to further bring confusion and discredit to this present administration.

Why would this administration be in support of killings in the areas in the north where they expect more votes?

This is simply a divide and conquer tactic at play here by some persons behind the scenes.

Please shut up. Buhari in the two times he ruled this country he performed woefully. Two recessions and a batant disregard for human rights. Buhari proscribed a non violent groupp like IPOB(i don't support them) yet he did nothing to miyetti allah who act like the spokesmen for the terrorists.

Go and take your medicine.

ollah2:
What he has done or doing is another topic and discussion because Buhari is also a bigot. But the fact is PDP and APC are hypocrites, one shouldn't claim to be a saint lambasting the other while myopic and educated illeterates cheer them on.

I am not supporting either party.

What makes me angry is the disrespect to the dead