European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester United Fan Thread: Premier League Champions 2010/11 by RuuDie(m): 11:05am On Aug 12, 2011 |
Premier League - West Brom offer Hargreaves contract Fri, 12 Aug 10:09:00 2011
Hargreaves, released by Manchester United, is eager to play again at the highest club level and went as far as to demonstrate his fitness by releasing videos of himself in training at the start of the summer.
He has held talks with West Brom, and has convinced the club he is fit and able to play again to the extent where they have made him an offer.
But Baggies manager Hodgson does not know whether joining his squad appeals to the former England player, who may have other options to consider.
Hodgson said: "When I left at 6pm on Tuesday, Owen was just about to leave at the same time. And we made it clear: 'Look, we've done the test, we agree with you, and your man Alex, that the knee's okay and you can play football. And of course if you'd like to come and play for us that would be lovely.'
"But whether or not our offer is going to be interesting to him, that's what I don't know. He was looked at by our doctor, Mark Gillett, who was at Chelsea, who's quite an eminent person in his field http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/12082011/58/premier-league-west-brom-offer-hargreaves-contract.html |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Neymar - I Can Be Better Than Lionel Messi by RuuDie(m): 10:29am On Aug 12, 2011 |
Yeah. . . . but first, he needs a better haircut  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester United Fan Thread: Premier League Champions 2010/11 by RuuDie(m): 10:28am On Aug 12, 2011 |
mbulela: Manchester United have said they do not expect Wesley Sneijder to join the club from Internazionale before the end of the transfer window. Although the Premier League champions did not want to go on the record, the official stance from Old Trafford is that the deal is not going to happen. The information comes from boardroom level, with the chief executive, David Gill, giving his approval for it to be known that United are not actively trying to sign the Dutchman.
i couldn't be any happier. Tomorrow. we'll hear a different tune ~ thats the exasperating thing! |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester United Fan Thread: Premier League Champions 2010/11 by RuuDie(m): 5:44am On Aug 12, 2011 |
[quote author=Mr_TA link=topic=716327.msg8904979#msg8904979 date=1313101528]Seems we're no longer signing Wesley Sneijder. Im happy and sad at the same time.[/quote]This Sneijder thing is beginning to get as annoying as the Cesc-FCB romance!  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread (for Arsenal Fans) by RuuDie(m): 5:22am On Aug 12, 2011 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: How To Watch Live Fa Premiership, La Liga, Champions Leauge For Free On Your Pc by RuuDie(m): 7:04am On Aug 10, 2011 |
Ok. . . . .spill the beans! |
Dating And Meet-up Zone › Re: Hotie Tima Needs A Man (and Fast!) by RuuDie(m): 6:56am On Aug 10, 2011 |
shuooo. . . . because of Loshun abi na wetin be im name! well, na becuz una neva see my own 6-pack + 2 extra finger na im make  |
Dating And Meet-up Zone › Re: Hotie Tima Needs A Man (and Fast!) by RuuDie(m): 12:55pm On Aug 09, 2011 |
my honolable in-raw, have that stupid Loshan indian boys l'eported to ya house yet!!?  |
Dating And Meet-up Zone › Re: Hotie Tima Needs A Man (and Fast!) by RuuDie(m): 12:53pm On Aug 09, 2011 |
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Dating And Meet-up Zone › Re: Hotie Tima Needs A Man (and Fast!) by RuuDie(m): 12:51pm On Aug 09, 2011 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester United Fan Thread: Premier League Champions 2010/11 by RuuDie(m): 4:45pm On Aug 08, 2011 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Community Shield 2011: Man Utd Vs Man City On Sunday, Aug 7th; 2.30pm by RuuDie(m): 12:56pm On Aug 08, 2011 |
Thats the problem with basing decisions on stats alone ~ you'd only be looking at numerals; quantity not quality! |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester United Fan Thread: Premier League Champions 2010/11 by RuuDie(m): 12:53pm On Aug 08, 2011 |
http://www.zonalmarking.net/2011/08/07/manchester-united-community-shield-2011/#more-6950Community Shield matches can often be rather mundane – this year’s was a cracker, with Manchester United coming back from 2-0 down at half time to defeat Manchester City 3-2.
With a raft of changes at half time, it would be easy to say that it was a genius transformation by Sir Alex Ferguson at half time. In truth, United were the more positive and creative side for the majority of the game, and even at half time, they would have been pleased with the performance, if not the result.
This fixture often sees exciting new signings making their debut – but, perhaps surprisingly, all of City’s XI were at the club last season, and Roberto Mancini played a similar shape to in 2010/11. United, on the other hand, appeared a completely different side from the one which lost to Barcelona on the same ground nine weeks earlier. They had a new goalkeeper – the talking point at half time – but their fluid front four were the main attraction.
In the fallout from the defeat to Barcelona, many were quick to point out the obvious differences between the sides, and suggest how United could use the transfer window to become more like Barcelona. There are elements of truth in that analysis – United must retain the ball better, for example, but if they attempt to copy Barcelona, they’ll never catch them up. Barcelona can draw upon the world’s best three players and a side that has been nurtured for years through their academy. If they are to be stopped, it is more likely that it will be a side outwitting them with a strategy of their own, rather than an imitation of their system. You probably can’t out-Barca Barca.
United have their own identity, and would be better off looking back to their previous European Cup victory in 2008, and the side of a year later, which competed well with Barcelona for the majority of the final (by the end it was a clear Barcelona victory, but nothing like the thrashing they dealt out this year). The main main feature of that side was flexibility and fluidity. Ferguson used Wayne Rooney, Cristiano Ronaldo and Carlos Tevez almost interchangeably.
That changed with the departure of Ronaldo and Tevez, and whilst their replacements – Antonio Valencia, Michael Owen, Javier Hernandez and Dimitar Berbatov (even if there was a crossover between Berbatov and Ronaldo/Tevez) – are all excellent players, they lack the versatility of their predecessors, and therefore United have been more boxy and slightly more predictable in the last couple of years. When they failed to win the league in 2009/10, ZM believed it was primarily due to a lack of attacking variation.
The signing of Ashley Young is significant, because he is able to play on either flank – or even behind a main striker, the position where his ex-manager Gerard Houllier believed he was at his best. In addition, Danny Welbeck is also capable of playing on the left, the right or the centre, something fellow loan returnee Tom Cleverley would also feel able to do, even if he is a very different type of player. The excellent – and decisive – performance of Nani was also good for United. Valencia’s astonishing return from injury last season pushed Nani out of the side, despite the fact the Portuguese winger had been excellent for the majority of the campaign - so good that he was voted United’s best player by his teammates.
Therefore, whilst the United 4-4-1-1 in the ‘big games’ towards the end of last season was set in stone in terms of selection – it was, well, set in stone in terms of positioning. Valencia was superb in some games – against Chelsea at home, for example – but when he played poorly, like in the Champions League final, he made United seem compartmentalised rather than cohesive.
The movement of United's front four It was interesting to see, then, that Ferguson chose to use a 4-4-2ish system with much more flexibility. Young and Nani can both play either side – Young started on the left, Nani on the right – but both came inside quickly and linked up with the front players. The key was the positioning and movement of the front two. Neither stayed high up the pitch against the Manchester City centre-backs – Welbeck came deep, primarily to pick up Nigel de Jong, whilst Rooney played something of a false nine role. Therefore, United were roughly 4-4-2, and yet had no true strikers – instead, Rooney and Welbeck linked seamlessly with Nani and Young, whilst Vincent Kompany and Joleon Lescott struggled to cut out their passing. When those been drawn up the pitch, any of United’s front four could make runs in behind.
Granted, United only scored after the break, and it was after Cleverley had replaced Carrick. That only added to the clever movement in the attacking positions, though. Five United players were looking to move into a position between the lines, trying to find space in dangerous areas. The superb second goal was the most obvious result – it’s difficult to imagine United scoring a similar goal with the 4-4-1-1 from late last season – the side had a completely different feel.
It’s already been called a “Barcelona goal” across twitter, but that’s a slightly lazy comparison. It wasn’t overly Barcelonaesque. It was probably more similar to the type of goal Arsenal used to score in the mid 2000s – take Patrick Vieira’s against Liverpool, for example. That Arsenal side also used to play, effectively, a 4-4-2 with no set striker, and two wingers coming inside – and in addition to United’s own side of a couple of years later, is a better reference point.
The goal might mark the start of a new era in United’s attacking play. Talk of a new era might seem silly – there’s hardly been a revolution since May in terms of the playing squad. There have been subtle changes within an existing framework, however – and that sums up what United will try and do on the pitch, too. With versatile players and more fluidity, there are simply more attacking possibilities. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester United Fan Thread: Premier League Champions 2010/11 by RuuDie(m): 5:58am On Aug 08, 2011 |
Cristalz: @Chamo Come on, Vidic was gaping at Dzeko's feet instead of doing his job seconds before the second goal happened. Problem I had with De Gea there was that he had time to see the ball coming yet his reflexes were too slow to stop it. There wasn't anything spectacular about the shot.
He wasn't entirely responsible for the 2nd goal. . .I give Vidic 46 percent share as well. Make that 76% My sentiments exactly ~ even though I still prefer Lindgaard but Vidic is a bit guilty of standing sideways when an attacker is running towards him; he doesn't move forward to charge down the shot, rather turns slightly to the side. . . . . wonder who he is trying to give a clear sight, he's goalie or the approaching attacker!? He certainly gave Dzeko the impetus to shoot last night! Could De Gea have done better ~ probably, but then again the ball bounced off the turf just right in front of him - easier to save if the goalie has his body behind and in the line of the ball ~ much more difficult to keep out if he is diving at a stretch attempting to parry. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester United Fan Thread: Premier League Champions 2010/11 by RuuDie(m): 5:50am On Aug 08, 2011 |
Anderson is an attacking midfielder !?  Well, thank God Cleverly is here; I dont care if he starts actually playing like Ronaldinho of old, we are shipping him to defensive midfield instanta  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Community Shield 2011: Man Utd Vs Man City On Sunday, Aug 7th; 2.30pm by RuuDie(m): 4:52pm On Aug 07, 2011 |
Doing my best not to get carried away ~ but it was a very good win nontheless. . . . there's depth in the squad which is pleasing and the passing is definitely getting fluider (guess we should be thanking FCB for that) - hope they can keep this up ~ very encouraging!  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Community Shield 2011: Man Utd Vs Man City On Sunday, Aug 7th; 2.30pm by RuuDie(m): 4:48pm On Aug 07, 2011 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Community Shield 2011: Man Utd Vs Man City On Sunday, Aug 7th; 2.30pm by RuuDie(m): 4:23pm On Aug 07, 2011 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Community Shield 2011: Man Utd Vs Man City On Sunday, Aug 7th; 2.30pm by RuuDie(m): 4:21pm On Aug 07, 2011 |
I like the way we are mixing it up ~ Barcaresque passing and the good ol' cross and nod  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Community Shield 2011: Man Utd Vs Man City On Sunday, Aug 7th; 2.30pm by RuuDie(m): 4:19pm On Aug 07, 2011 |
i swear yaya toure don finish ~ muki straight to my bedroom  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Community Shield 2011: Man Utd Vs Man City On Sunday, Aug 7th; 2.30pm by RuuDie(m): 4:12pm On Aug 07, 2011 |
Come dis new Barca pattern don dey vex me oh ~ dem no go waya shot make dem score goal. . . . . . .shuuuuoooo! |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Community Shield 2011: Man Utd Vs Man City On Sunday, Aug 7th; 2.30pm by RuuDie(m): 3:55pm On Aug 07, 2011 |
chei. . . .yaya don finish. kai. . . .muki dis bros no go fit service u tonight oh ~ betta begin beg me cuz na me dey with the thunder now  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Community Shield 2011: Man Utd Vs Man City On Sunday, Aug 7th; 2.30pm by RuuDie(m): 3:53pm On Aug 07, 2011 |
See why we went and played Barca @ pre-season!? Pep watch, SAF's hell-bent on beating u @ ur own game!  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Community Shield 2011: Man Utd Vs Man City On Sunday, Aug 7th; 2.30pm by RuuDie(m): 3:24pm On Aug 07, 2011 |
Vidic should be charging down shots not trying to tie wrapper when a forward is approaching him ~ me i no blame De Gea, though i still prefer Lindegaard!  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Community Shield 2011: Man Utd Vs Man City On Sunday, Aug 7th; 2.30pm by RuuDie(m): 3:22pm On Aug 07, 2011 |
Still waiting to see the 'beast' in Anderson! |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Community Shield 2011: Man Utd Vs Man City On Sunday, Aug 7th; 2.30pm by RuuDie(m): 3:09pm On Aug 07, 2011 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Community Shield 2011: Man Utd Vs Man City On Sunday, Aug 7th; 2.30pm by RuuDie(m): 3:06pm On Aug 07, 2011 |
nateevs: Well that gives you only one link in a browser. works for me. . . . . i am in the office, don't wanna raise too much suspicion! Very boring indeed ~ at least we've learnt something from Barca. . . . .65-35 ball possession ~ Citeh na f.cuk up  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Community Shield 2011: Man Utd Vs Man City On Sunday, Aug 7th; 2.30pm by RuuDie(m): 2:57pm On Aug 07, 2011 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Community Shield 2011: Man Utd Vs Man City On Sunday, Aug 7th; 2.30pm by RuuDie(m): 2:56pm On Aug 07, 2011 |
That was a red card tackle ~ richards should be off now! |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Community Shield 2011: Man Utd Vs Man City On Sunday, Aug 7th; 2.30pm by RuuDie(m): 2:18pm On Aug 07, 2011 |
Pharoh: ^^
You can watch it online if they don't show it. Links please. . . . .sites where i wouldn't have to instal any players if possible! |
Dating And Meet-up Zone › Re: Needs Smart,intelligent Male Chatmates by RuuDie(m): 9:41am On Aug 07, 2011 |
slimyem: @duduspace, i like your analysis of me and moreso you write like the kinds of guys that fit my descriptions. You are quite right bout the yoruba thingy but not bout the name.and yes!i have a quite healthy self-image but m not egocentric what's boring me??here's too public to want to talk bout it. What i like to talk about??[b]everything asides philosophy,sports and religion.[/b]Wanna sign up? *signing up* You certainly picked the 3 most intriguing topics on mother earth not to like. . . . .so lets see, u like to talk about Science ~ ah great, lets talk the technical details of some the greatest NASA expeditions, or Von Neumann architecture . . . . .Finance ~ the tax laws of Mongolia and Siberia. . . . .Music ~ Beethoven, Mozart, the New York Philharmonics. . . . !!?  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester United Fan Thread: Premier League Champions 2010/11 by RuuDie(m): 5:26am On Aug 07, 2011 |
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