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Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 2:46pm On Apr 11, 2018
Which super-mega infrastructure are you talking about. I normally visit SkycrapperCity to check out new development - Nigeria & Lagos forum - look like they are building one structure per year in Eko City.

Lagos -http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2645
or http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1481

Nairobi and Kenya on the other hand is on steroids - with 4 cities under development or planned around Nairobi alone - and lots of real sky-scrappers coming up every day.

Nairobi -http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2635
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2639

samsobo24:
" Nairobi beats Lagos in all aspects "
Pls I don't have time for any kind of argument, but to massage your Ego.A quick look at the super- mega upcoming projects in Lagos plus its huge infrastructure on ground scattered all over the state gives an impression that the city is truly improving rapidly
Pls type whatever you want to but pls don't quote me
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 2:06pm On Apr 11, 2018
Cooked fake GDP cannot and will not provide you with regular supply of electricity or water or sewage or even internet. In all aspects Nairobi beat Lagos. The same way Kenya beat Nigeria. Except in "GDP" that simply don't make much senses to me.
samsobo24:
are you minding all these one's who don't have anything to do rather than rant on a Nigerian forum,just to make silly comparism. The last time I checked the Economy of Lagos is bigger than the whole of their country. They think is just by population. If not for our government, imagine these tiny countries comparing themselves to Nigeria

It will be good if you could leave them to wallow in their hatred towards Nigeria
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 7:44pm On Apr 10, 2018
I am not sure there is anything that works - except maybe nollywood? - Nigerians is akin to our African American brothers - totally messed up - nothing seem to work - not even simple power supply! not even basic health? not even fighting boko haram? and yet Nigeria is incredibly blessed with petro-dollars!
Jay254:
Bill Gates said they are among the few countries with the lowest percentage of tax collection vs GDP around 6%. Nigerians life expectancy my be worse than Somalia... Healthcare in Nigeria is almost dead.. I honestly and deeply cry for the Giant.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 4:31pm On Apr 10, 2018
The federal states in the giant depend on the federal allocation - so there is the race to inflate population everywhere - Lagos real population is about half what is stated officially - and so like GDP - everything in Nigeria is fake - except the petrodollars that nobody knows where it goes.I mean in Angola - after only 10yrs - you can see the transformation the petro-dollars has done - but not for the giant who count Nollywood moves as GDP cheesy cheesy

If you check the federal budget - the total allocation to 36 states I think is around N450B - which is mere 150B kshs (1.5B dollars) - I think kenya devolve more than that - about 300B kshs (or 3 b dollars).

Nobody pays taxes in Nigeria - so you can imagine what teachers or army people earn?. Nobody pays for electricity or water - so all utilities companies are bankrupt - and country runs on a generator - has no sewer systems or pipe water to speak of - worse than even the poorest countries.

A giant mess.

kikuyu1:
You haven't heard? These guys have their own budgetary system unknown to any accounting system-that figure can increase any time due to States individual contributions so their budget is always higher than ours.
This thread will never die!
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017:
I am surprised this thread is still going on....
Here we go 2018 - Kenya National Gov set to unveil 29B dollars budget (2018/2019)..and Nigeria (the African GIANT grin grin) will unveil federal budget of 28B usd. When this thread started the gap was huge......and yet kenya has zero dollars from hydrocarbons.

Nigeria is one huge giant mess. That should now be self-evident. 28B federal budget while likes of South Africa's federal gov have more than 100B to spend every year!

And the zebras cannot help but marvel as third Nairobi CBD's -upperhill slowly rises....an acre in upper-hill will set you at 10M dollars plus.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4626/39753851444_053d731165_h.jpg
https://scontent-iad3-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/18380420_1795638770750148_1098842111094030336_n.jpg

And Africa's tallest building is well on it's way.
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/894/41136742301_bc88c505b7_o.png
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 7:51am On Nov 16, 2017
Budgets for 2017/2018:
South Africa: $116 billion
Egypt: $45 billion
Nigeria: $28 billion
Kenya: $26 billion - just mere 2b before kenya budget exceed nigeria.
Rwanda: $3 billion
Somalia: $275 million
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 1:58pm On Oct 03, 2017
What recession. You have dummy economy that depend entirely on OIL and swings with oil prices? Kenya has very well diversified economy - why can't Nigeria build an economy that doesn't sway with global oil prices? How can you invest in infrastructure with 20B USD budget smiley smiley is that even enough to pay decent salaries?
samsobo24:
Do you think recession is a child's play,our external reserve is now increasing.Let us recover fully from the recession and with our effort in investment in critical infrastructure like Rails,power, roads and aviation, Watch as Nigeria will Grow 5 times any country.
Our external reserves is now $33 billion,it's growing at a fast pace
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 1:53pm On Oct 03, 2017
I see. Nairobi budget is around 300m usd - most of Kenya's 47 counties operate on around 100-200M USD budget. And as you well know unlike Nigeria states - our counties have limited functions - they can't even borrow or have deficit budget. The central GOK shares out 35% of collected taxes (about 15B Usd) - so in total counties shares 3-4B usd; so the National Gov of Kenya remain with 22B for paying teachers, army and building roads.Nigeria has federal budget of 20B - with majority being allocation to the states - so at end of the day - the federal GoK of Nigeria is left with very little to do anything serious.

As for federal reserves...with all the oil...earning you forex...you 30B usd is a joke. Kenya has no oil...but it boast of 8B forex reserves...enough to cover 4-5 months of imports. Is Nigeria 30B enough to cover imports - considering Nigeria basically import everything. If the answer is yes - why is USD dollar on black market selling for 400 nairas? Why is naira so unstable against foreign currency. KSHS is very stable.

obaaderemi:
You are always on about the 'giant' thing and our large GDP.I will oblige u & give you oyo state budget without federal input then you also give me nairobi budget with or without fed input.From federal govt,Oyo gets yearly about N72bn:$250M.Oyo budget is N200BN: about$600M.That's $350m without fed input.Give me Nairobi's.Remember I am using oyo and not lagos or Rivers state.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 6:41am On Oct 03, 2017
It not any different - Kenya has Counties and south Africa has provinces -with their own budgets - but all of them significantly depend on federal or national budget to survive. I know Nigeria system is federal while Kenya is devolved - so only 35% now get remitted to counties while national or federal gov remain with 65%. I wish you could get us state budges minus the federal allocation so we can know just how miniscule this giant is. As for foreign reserves - this is just the money you need to cover your import bill - kenya has 8B foreign reserves - Nigeria with all the oil has 30B usd?
obaaderemi:
@rvp2017...you are mistaken.The 200m nigerians are not catered for by only the $24bn federal budget.Each of our 36 states generate its own revenue and fund projects.Even without federal allocation to lagos for 3years it weathered the storm.Lagos budget for this year is over $2billion.States on their own access international loan and aid.Oyo state has a budget of over $500m despite being one of our less viable states and having a smaller population than nairobi.We practice different types of systems.So basing your argument on our federal budget of $24bn for 200m people is flawed.America has a foreign reserve in excess of maybe a trillion dollars,why is it still indebted.The same reason why Nigeria has to borrow despite having a $34BN reserve.Government revenue in Nigeria is over $50bn despite a weak tax net,and in kenya is less than $10bn,still less than 1/4 of ours.Besides,corruption in Africa makes nonsense of budgets.How come ur gdp is just $65b?Btw,what are Nairobi and Mombasa's budgets?Tell us.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 9:41am On Oct 02, 2017
Lets take a breather from the insults and once again compare the budgets

2017 - Kenya budget is 26B USD - with about 15B usd collected from taxes and more from appropriation in aid(AID).
2017 - Nigeria budget is 24B USD.
2017 - South Africa budget around 90B USD

Based on Nigeria cooked GDP - it's budget should be around 120-150B - mostly collected from the economy.

How Nigeria pay teachers, doctors, civil servants,roads, all the gov services and still get some steal is one of world wonders.

What is 24BUSD for a country of nearly 200M peeps?

Naija need to wake up - next year if this slumber continues their federal budget will be 20B - while Kenya definitely will be 30BUSD.

You cannot eat cooked GDP figures. It cannot fill country vaults. It cannot help your treasury. It cannot help you state or federal gok pay for salaries for the army - you know Nigeria Major earn less than Kenyan private! Nigerian teacher probably earn 30-50 dollars a month while kenyan teachers earn 10 times that - 300 -400dollars.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 10:21am On Sep 29, 2017
Good job keeping the Naijas on a tight leash. This debate is not about to end soon - coz these guys don't give up - with or without facts - they'll trudge along posting the same poor quality pictures and doggy website as evidence that Naija is anything but the shit hole and armpit of Africa.
kikuyu1:
Mjomba,karibu! Lakini usiwe unatuwacha hivyo, unaongea ukweli tupu. I still remember you trying to tell these guys the overwhelming importance of consumption data not raw easily cooked stats like GDP figures. We all learned a lot-how to dig deeper behind surface stats and see the real.Thanks!
Naijjans,tell us why we have 367 k riders a 100 k more than you.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 10:18am On Sep 29, 2017
And you reckon that other smart taxis don't exist in Kenya or South Africa?
samsobo24:
it means there is no monopoly,there are other smart taxi cabs in Nigeria.
Even taxi cab operators are going against it.
The UK is not also liking it.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 9:17am On Sep 29, 2017
Uber ranks kenya second to South Africa - Naija is only a giant in their own cooked statistics (GDP figures) - with a minuscule federal budget that equal to kenya.

The statistics by the San-Fransisco-based firm show South Africa as Uber’s biggest market in Africa with 969,000 active riders, while Kenya is second. The data, released Thursday, also showed that 5,000 and 12,000 Uber drivers are signed up in Kenya and South Africa, respectively.
Kenya remains Uber’s most vibrant market in the region as Uganda and Tanzania have 48,000 and 53,000 active riders, with each country signing-up 1,000 drivers.
Ghana and Nigeria have 140,000 and 267,000 active riders respectively. About 7,000 drivers are on Uber platform in Nigeria while Ghana has 3,000.

http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/companies/Uber-ranks-Kenya-second-biggest-market-in-Africa/4003102-4116644-uo5cq1/index.html
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 10:13am On Jul 29, 2017
I am suprised this thread is still on and Nigeria are yet to give up smiley - Nigeria despite all that oil - really ought to be ashamed of themselves.
Here is another gem in kenya - Great Rift Valley Lodge - in Naivasha
https://scontent.fnbo5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/20414054_10155480823589326_761875852773739745_o.jpg?oh=a56aa2b58ffb9e9b9f08e8867a768416&oe=59EB3147
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Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 7:19am On Dec 07, 2016
Nairobi - The home of International offices - and only UN HQ in entire developed world.
Nairobi US embassy - one of Africa's biggest
https://cdn.timesofisrael.com/uploads/2013/08/Kenya-US-Embassy-Secu_Horo-e1375731135204.jpg
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 7:10am On Dec 07, 2016
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 6:35am On Dec 07, 2016
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 2:02pm On Dec 06, 2016
Still obsessed with color? Or the fact that M-kopa is doing great things and has attracted lot of dollar funding - which is fdi. We live in connected world. We encourage that Nigeria to come here and build his solar power tri-cycle. Although we'd have to make sure it not a hoax.

M-kopa employees 2,500 people. how is your okada solar panel science congress thing goign grin

Solincs Kenya - manufactures solar panel
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5641ebcce4b047c0f3f89177/t/564318ade4b081513da840fa/1447407786916/Solinc-66.jpg?format=2500w
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5641ebcce4b047c0f3f89177/56431c07e4b0b66656bf878c/56431c17e4b0b66656bf87c5/1447238710195/Solinc-33.jpg

68816419:
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what is so special in solar technology that every things have to be built by whites, man their are lots of solar companies in Nigeria ?

Nigerian-manufactures-solar-powered-tricycle-22Keke-Napep
rthur A Okeyika who is the CEO and brain behind Arthur Energy Technology Ltd, a leading renewable energy technology company in Nigeria, has manufacturet.

Arthur Energy Technology Limited, has their corporate office located at 73 Okota Rd Isolo Lagos and the main office located at Suit 14-16 City of Love Plaza beside Peoples Club HQ Owerri Rd Onitsha, Anambra State

Arthur Anthony Okeyika hails from Ihiala in Anambra State.
here is link to hundred of solar companies in Nigeria !
http://www.businesslist.com.ng/category/solar-energy
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 1:52pm On Dec 06, 2016
Theoritically you have 4000mw. But in reality we count power consumption based on how many hours those power station generate power. A power station can be idle like in nigeria - although it has capacity to produce 1,000mw. It could be working for 3 or 4 hrs per day. It could even be off for months - coz of disrepair or lack of spares.

Nigeria generates & consume 3 gigawatts of hour of electricity per annum. Kenya generates & consume 10 gigawatts per hour. So Nigeria right now is using about 600mw of it's power on full capacity.

Get it or your education system is totally as dysfunctional as nigeria turbines - which aren't turning.

The solution is not to increase total capacity from 4000mw to 12,000mw like Nigeria is trying. It to make sure the 4,000mw are running first. You should be able to milk 20 gigawatts of hours (at kenya rate - although we still have about 10-15% systemic losses).

Fix that by first ensuring your power companies are not bankrupt, people pay their bills, no meter tampering and then those turbines can start turning at full capacity.

You cannot fix that by building 10,000 mega power plant that will soon not turn coz nobody paid their bill. Power stations have running costs.

darknetcom:
not even 4000mw is enough...

were you very bad in mathematics at schoolhuh??..
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 1:45pm On Dec 06, 2016
2000mw is enough to power the whole of Nigeria households; Most households in kenya with really nice weather require power for only 2hrs - btw 7-9pm - for lighting and TV. A fridge running the whole day doesn't cost consume lots of power.

Kenya power consumption has been grown at about 10% annually (with supply now outpacing demand) - and so by 2020mw - with universal access - we can do it 5,000mw. We expect to have 15,000mw in 2030. This in line with growing economy and kenyans becoming richer - meaning they can afford more household appliances that consume power.

Countries like South Africa or Argentina need 40,000 mw to help them mine gold, diamond and such heavy industries. Our only heavy industries is cement - about 6,000 metric tonnes (compared to nigeria's 18,000 metric tonnes) - otherwise you don't need all that power unless you're blasting rocks to milk gold.

Light industries like textile/apparels/fast moving goods -packaging of food / do not require a lot electricity.

68816419:
Building universal coverage for the whole Kenya with only 2000MW of electricity, is shows that Kenya does produce anything and have few industries ......
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 1:31pm On Dec 06, 2016
Kenya solar power - I think highest installation (mws) & per capita in Africa (same with Nigeria buying millions of generators annually grin). Kenyans who are off-grid (soon to be a thing of the past) buy solar panels instead of noisy smoky generators

M-KOPA solar - with 300,000 customers in Kenya (thousands more in East Africa) - gives you free solar kit - that you pay 50shs per day (0.5 cent usd) for 2yrs. They give poor folks enough power for their phones, lighting and even TV. No noise. No petrol. And you pay slowly for it.
https://www.m-kopa.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/MKOPAIII_Sep14_026-e-01-1.jpg
https://www.m-kopa.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/MkopaIII_Aug14_469.jpg
https://assets.inhabitat.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2016/08/M-KOPA-solar-powered-TV-1-1580x549.jpg
https://assets.inhabitat.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2016/08/M-KOPA-solar-powered-tv-Kenya.jpg

M-Kopa is example of many innovative companies running on m-pesa and ict.
M-kopa call center.
https://www.m-kopa.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Call-Centre7jpg.jpg
https://www.m-kopa.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/m-kopa-launches-solar-powered-tv.jpg

Solar Panel manufacturing in Naivasha Kenya
https://www.howwemadeitinafrica.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Solinc-600x300.jpg
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 1:26pm On Dec 06, 2016
you're a conspiracy cartoon. It has nothing to do with white people but under investment in the power sector. Invest top oil dollar on building power infrastructure. I bet your road network is similarly kaput despite the figures being thrown around. I have seen naija movies and the roads....are non-existent.
darknetcom:
it has to do mainly with white-people that we dont have electricity since 1960...

they found a way to keep us down without showing their faces...

i dont think the electric situation will change without separating from them completly...

firget kenya....the are mentality already colonized.
and they are happy with it..let them

we
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 1:21pm On Dec 06, 2016
Kenya can tell you that is boneheaded idea that won't work. Farming or agriculture is nothing novel. It been modernize for 500 years plus now. All you need is to copy the best - like kenya in some areas - and you'll be off to good start. No need for pain. Produce cheaper rice, wheat and anything - by employing well known modern farming methods. Subsidize farm inputs. Apply fertilizers for a start. You've got oil - one of ingredient and up north is Morroco with lots of phosphorous.
darknetcom:
the only way to help local production is to ban the import of anything that can be produced in nigeria...
it will be painful at first,but local producers will catch up quicker than you think.
what we need is security,...

we were surviving well before the foreighners landed on our shores with ther strange ships..

kenyans can not tell us nothing...
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 1:14pm On Dec 06, 2016
After connecting them with electricity - their quality of life is way better than middle class family in Nigeria burning a generator. That ubiquitious noise in Lagos is that of generators. That is not way to live.

Inside those slums .. people live better lives than typical nigerian without electricity. No generator noise or smoke.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/staticarchive/cff8a3be4e8e2f48f463a7a6bd302d3ba3f144f1.jpg
[img]http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get2/I0000.N_jPEwTChY/fit=1000x750/kibera-mcpherson-story03.jpg[/img]
https://www.seattleglobalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Kibera_Part2_04.jpg

And kenya slums are being upgraded.
[img]http://www.nation.co.ke/image/view/-/2764290/highRes/1045197/-/maxw/600/-/u7cg0p/-/slum+px.jpg[/img]
https://i2.wp.com/buildesign.co.ke/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/The-numbers-of-cars-parked-in-these-houses-bring-to-queation-the-effectiveness-of-the-slum-upgrade-Who-benefits-from-these-house-allocations.jpg

68816419:
Nice slums.... cool
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 1:06pm On Dec 06, 2016
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 12:46pm On Dec 06, 2016
kenya Last Mile electricity connectivity.
As Nigeria struggle with generators noise; kenya is racing to ensure everyone (even those in slums and villages) have 24-7 electricity by 2020. 10 yrs ago - only 12% of Kenyans had electricity - now that figure has move to nearly 70% of all household, all 25,000 primary schools and 10,000 secondary schools connected, all markets and public places have 24-7s.

Kenya will have universal electricity coverage soon - a first in Africa. South Africa has 80% electricity coverage.

24-7 supply of electricity whether you live in tin house or grass thacted mud house or mansion. You're connected for free and you pay for installation (150usd) over many years. You pay using pre-paid meters. No bill. No debt for power company. You just buy electricity like you buy airtime.

Kenya's Deputy President and Kenya Power Md lighting old woman hut.
https://kplc.co.ke/img/big/aUTeUFqspfOR_IMG_5260sss.jpg
https://kenyanewsagency.go.ke/en/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Rural1-ELECTRIFICATION.jpg
https://zipo.co.ke/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/william-ruto_hut1.jpg
https://www.worldbank.org/content/dam/Worldbank/Topics/Energy%20and%20Extract/Kenya_electrification_Mits%20Motohashi%20780x439.jpg
https://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/files/2015/07/grid.kenya_-1024x624.jpg
https://practicalaction.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Handwashing-Nakuru-2.jpg
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 12:28pm On Dec 06, 2016
Fact is your import food worth 6.5B usd. That for a third world country is something you shouldn't be doing and it seem you let oil kill everything including crucial food production. Nigeria unlike Kenya or Ethiopia doesn't sit in water scarce enviroment - you have niger & all those rivers providing all the water you need to produce excess food.

Import electronics and machinery - but you cannot be giant who use oil money to buy food. you're a one giant mess.

You won't be in a recession if you economy was diversified. It still dependant on OIL. Anything that gov stats body concoct is lie. If oil prices goes on a free fall; you economy similar does the same. Kenya economy is small but well diversified and sophisticated.

As for ict and industralization beating kenya - I don't know what measures you're using. That certainly is not true. Kenya beat south africa in internet connectivity...leave alone Nigeria. In COMESA region - we are second biggest exporter of manufactured goods -after Egypt- (of some many varities) -beating the combined EU- COMESA is 19 countries union.

obaaderemi:
THe only food items we really need to import are wheat and milk.even milk can be produced adequately in nigeria if we put the right pple in govt.rice and tomato production has gone up seriously even thru the efforts of ordinary nigerian farmers.our ict and industrialization are mainly privately driven and yet most african countries are behind us in terms of per capita,even tiny kenya.if only the govt can be transparent about electricity and hand off totally,nigeria will simply blast off.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 10:00am On Dec 06, 2016
Giant that cannot feed itself. All Nigeria food they produce is not enough to feed their 180M mouths. Kenya has very little food deficit and export a lot of agriclutures produces. Nigeria is net food importer.

Nigeria Sugar production - of 60,000 tonnes against consumption demand of 1.7M tonnes ..btw that is really small sugar consumption for 180m people - making your economic stats really fake - Sugar and Cement are some key important pseudo-data for measuring economy)

Kenya produces 600,000 tonnes of sugar against consumption of 800,000 tonnes.

In any food crop - kenya has either excess or small short fall. Nigeria spend most of the oil money importing food including tomato paste grin (tomato sauce?).

Nigeria spend 3 trillion naira ($6.5 billion) importing food. That is a big gigantic failure.

68816419:
Nigga believe me when i say " Nigeria is the best in Africa"
"Production
Worldwide production of maize is 785 million tons, with the largest producer, the United States, producing 42%. Africa produces 6.5% and the largest African producer is Nigeria with nearly 8 million tons, followed by South Africa. Africa imports 28% of the required maize from countries outside the continent.

Most maize production in Africa is rain fed. Irregular rainfall can trigger famines during occasional droughts."

http://www.iita.org/maize
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 8:18am On Dec 06, 2016
The data I seen is 60,000 metric tonnes of wheat for Nigeria. Kenya produces 3.5m metric tonnes of Maize. Kenya is putting 1 million acres of land under irrigation.
Galana-Kulalu irrigation farm.
https://www.nib.or.ke/images/galana-bumper-harvest.JPG
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnO_Z2LWcAAAvJo.jpg

iblawi:
Nigeria’s domestic wheat production is small and dropped 20 percent from 100,000 tons in MY2011/2012 to 80,000 tons in MY 2012/2013. Currently, Nigeria produces about 300,000 tons wheat annually. This low-level of production is due mainly to unfavorable local climatiic conditions requiring expensive irrigation. Continued threats of “Boko Haram” terrorist activities in most states within the country’s wheat growing belt in the northern region has mostly been responsible for the dropping production.
The country’s consumption for wheat remained high reaching 4.1 million tons in 2012/2013. Demand is expected to reach 4.2 million tons in 2013/2014 as consumer demand for wheat based foods continues to climb in response to changing tastes as in domestic supplies of other substitute staple products within Nigeria and neighboring countries is not increasing to match population growth. The market gap is filled by wheat imports and wheat milling capacity was estimated at 6.2 million tons, with capacity utilization at 50 percent in 2012/13.

http://www.foramfera.com/marketresearchreports/agriculture-agro-processing-forestry-and-fishing/production-of-wheat-flour-in-nigeria-the-pre-feasibility-report/
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 8:02am On Dec 06, 2016
Kenya rice production has risen 7 times in few yrs to 150,000 metric tonnes. But certainly Nigeria rice farming is bigger than kenya.
iblawi:
Rice farming in Nigeria is currently over 3.5 million MT while Kenya is just 60,000MT


https://www.google.com.ng/amp/www.vanguardngr.com/2016/11/nigeria-produces-3-5m-tonnes-rice-needs-7m-tonnes-ogbeh/amp/

http://m.guardian.ng/news/farmers-to-make-rice-affordable-by-2017/

https://softkenya.com/farming/rice-farming-in-kenya/
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 7:29am On Dec 06, 2016

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