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Kenya has fairly new cars compared to many African countries outside South Africa n Namibia many who don't have age restrictions...the kind of cars that passes kenya enroute hinterland are 30 or 50yr old...you just need to see video of kenya or Ghana or Nigeria traffic to see who drives very old cars

GeneralDae:
I think Kenya may have no choice but to default soon. IMF would advice same. Not a good option in my opinion but at this point, it's likely.

They have huge debt to China but I don't think that's a problem because China recently agreed with Ghana to restructure debt.

We have 8b dollars Chinese loan...out 80b loan..not even 10 percent..Nigeria is long overdue for default as it crossed 100 percent revenue to debt servicing

Obaaderemi2:
This is exactly why they can't pay salaries. All those debts were going into paying salaries for years. Kenya has been broke since around 2017 when we started these threads but kept cooking the books. Now, the shit has hit the fan. What a smell.

Kenyatta and Ruto mismanaged the country with their penchant for foreign loans. Coupled with the droughts, Kenya's prognosis is frightening.

Relax..Kenya has more solid macroeconomic than anything west African.We cab only go bankrupt if revenues don't grow..our economy grew at 5.5 percent last year...revenues up at 8 percent

Saddamochieng00:
You know what fairly means right. If you weren't so pained you'd have understood the point he was trying to make.

Nothing riles South Africa than seeing progressive country like Kenya nipping on them..Kenya has now disallowed used commercial cars

AkoniMoipei:
Lets settle the Kenyan/Tanzanian debate.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLwWZTSQba4

There is no day kenya will be comparable to Tanzania...the gap is huge

Kazikazi:
Drawing a list like that is easy,
But having big planes like A380 landing in your airport that is a huge engineering feat,a shithole airport can't achieve that

Just ask,why all these A380s are landing in Dar but not kigali,not Nairobi?
Your guess is as good as mine.....Tanzania is advanced

one jet we cannot sleep..masking akipata matador ulia mbwata

Kazikazi:
Confessions time

How will they communicate in English

Kazikazi:
Just accept, Tanzania has more vehicles than kenya.
Tanzania has more engineers than kenya
Tanzania has more marine vessels
More trains
Even those kenyan plates jumped the letter KDF,KAF unlike TZ which all gov vehicles has a different series,defence force use JW,police uses PT.

A bitter pill to swallow

When you can import 8yr old cars talk..you're like West Africa importing 50yr cars.A kenya driving through Tanzania would think he has been taken back decades seeing old cars n old model.Outside South Africa n such kenya roads has fairly new cars

68816419:
lol. which barons would you prefer?
1-2 : In Tech, The 20 most important people in Nigerian tech vs The 20 most important people in Kenyan tech
3- 4 : search for Top 20 most powerful businessmen and industrialist in Nigeria vs Top 20 most powerful businessmen and industrialist in Nigeria

Nigeria diaspora..20million strong..that almost half kenya..that is not fdi..fraction of the brain drain

Update from Zoo from Kenyan overlanding..Petrol is o.5 dollar but diesel is 2 dollars. Nobody is sober in zoogeria.Most countries will subsidise diesel as it used by large commercial vehicle and is input in production..zoos subsidise petrol to 12 billion dollars. Meanwhile like Somalia you run into numerous roadblocks erected by unemployed youths..if not the grotesquely police.As for getting Naira..it hilarious its surreal

Kazikazi:
No
Motorcycles and tuktuk are all classified as MC (motorcycl),they are using different plates

And remember,Zanzibar isn't included.If we include Zanzibar, we might be on F instead of a current alphabet E

easy to verify data...what do you think are TZ registered motor vehicles

68816419:
1-2: Construction Of $600M Mangal Cement factory , will be completed next year according to the contractors. It would produce 3 million metric tonnes of cement annually.

3-4: BUA 3 million metric tonne Cement plant sokoto state commissioned with 70MW Power Plant

look dangote land will soon be dangote bua or poor land...a country where few barons thrive as result of stupid import substitution policies

Do you motor cycle and three wheelers have same series as cars

Kazikazi:
On vehicles, you are still at alphabet D while Tanzania is on E,that means Tanzania has more vehicles. And don't forget we have not included cars registered in Zanzibar.

If we go to other stuff like pipelines, Tanzania has the longest network of pipelines

We go to SGR and all railway lines,Tanzania has the longest,most modern and advanced network

Mining.We produce a lot. While kenya tried to do oil,but u failed dismally. You lack engineering skills

Kazikazi:
Not yet paid

You are consuming a desperate opposition propaganda..as you also look to desperately overtake kenya..something that won't happen in your lifetime as kenya is about to economically takeoff by 2030

samorobo:
Pictures test,naked eye test - you know this things, not some cheap journalism publication.

The day anywhere in Kenya look half as good as that Capetown video I just watched them that will be the last day you will hear from me here. I will delete my account cos it’s pointless arguing. Again naked eye test

How does runaway crime n blackouts appear on in your camera lenses

ProblemChild1:
Rvp is a drug addict. Too much refnol has damaged his brain. He doesn't know what he's saying.

only alcohol...I travelled yesterday through Adis...maximum respect for Ethiopia..Kenya we need to meet and agree we bleeped...15yrs ago..we were ahead of Ethiopia

Very good observations on driving in East Africa Tips for bikers visiting East African countries (Part II)
Of late, we have had a surge in bikers wishing to visit other countries in the region, especially Uganda, Tanzania and Rwanda. I thought it best to prepare these tips for those riding out, based on my observations in my limited trips out of Kenya on a bike. These are my observations - and I might be wrong in many of the assumptions I make, but please feel free to chip in with your thoughts, too!
As you cross, remember to have with you (a) the original bike logbook, which should be in the same name as that of the passport (b) sufficient copies of the logbook (c) COMESA insurance certificate or a local insurance if you can procure one at the crossing point (d) copies of your valid driving license (e) medical evacuation insurance (and the AMREF Maisha Gold Cover is highly recommended, as you get medevacked from any point in East Africa)
Different police systems and traffic management systems. Remember, my friends, this counsel. There are variations in the police systems, which is something you need to keep in mind. You have both competence and incompetence running through the EA police systems. The quantum of bribes demanded is the primary empirical parameter I use to make the following declarations. The Kenya Police is at the extreme end: a largely incompetent outfit, which has as its primary motive the collection of bribes. Unless there is a force majeure, the Kenya Police has very little to do with traffic safety. The Rwanda Police, on the other hand, is an incredibly efficient police service that simply has no parallels in East Africa. The Ugandan Police Service bears the closest approximation to their Kenyan counterparts, but at least you can find elements of traffic safety, especially with their years-long campaign entitled “Fika Salama.”
The quantum of bribes demanded by the police services is widely varying: the Kenyan policemen demand eye wateringly huge sums for the slightest infractions: the Rwandans, on the other hand, are highly unlikely to ask for bribes and more likely to fine you on the spot. The penalty systems for traffic violations also differ: manual (Kenya and Uganda), semi-automated (Tanzania), and fully automated (Rwanda).
In Rwanda, the traffic management system is automated and based on a network of a plethora of static speed radars that are prevalent across major urban arteries and highways. One of the reasons for the gentle driving styles you encounter in Rwanda is because of the road management system in Rwanda: the country’s vast network of speed cameras is connected to an IT hub managed by the police service. Once you exceed the speed limit you are instantly caught by the well place speed radars, which prompt an SMS direct to your phone, informing you of your infraction, where it happened and the fine you need to pay. You try evading paying your penalty, and a traffic cop with a smart tablet will nab you - by which time your fine increases dramatically!
Road conditions and driving styles. Kenya has the most complex roads, with multi-laned motorways and complicated spaghetti junctions. Kenya also has the highest proportion of paved roads in the region – with data showing more roads paved in Kenya (approaching 26,000 km now) than all the other EA countries combined. Road surfacing also differs significantly: you have dips and uneven surfaces on Kenyan roads (as a result of the use of aggregates for surface dressing in Kenya, a ‘technology’ no other country in the region uses). The smoothest roads are in Rwanda and Tanzania (in that order), with Uganda and Kenya tailing (in that order).
Kenya has the highest, by far, of speed humps, with at least half of them unmarked. No one really knows the standards for the humps, as they differ (for context: the Nakuru-Kericho-Kisumu road and Nakuru-Londiani-Kisumu road have different hump sizes and styles, with the latter boasting the more difficult humps – yet they are managed by the same road agency and the same branch of KeNHA).
They say Rwanda has the best roads in East Africa. There’s a lot of truth in this cliché. Some of the joys of riding on Rwanda’s well paved highways include the virtual absence of speed humps, and the abundance of signage everywhere. It’s very hard to get lost.
Driving styles differ dramatically in the region – and likely have evolved from three things: road limitations, number of vehicles, and efficiency of police services in managing traffic (i.e., how easy it is to bribe policemen after you get caught driving badly). You have the insane driving habits in Kenya – this is a well-known issue. Uganda has people also driving spiritedly, especially on the Jinja-Kampala highway as well as on the clogged highway leading to the western parts of Uganda. On the other hand, people drive sedately in Rwanda and (to some extent) in Tanzania. The differences in driving habits may be in part due to the huge differences in car ownership and attendant impact on road traffic. You have 4.8 million cars in Kenya (2022 data), approximately 830,000 cars in Uganda (data correct as of two years ago), and about 1.4 million cars in Tanzania (as of 2018), and 264,000 cars in Rwanda (as of 2020). You have more cars in Kenya – actually, likely more cars than all the other EA countries combined – thus creating a huge demand for space on the road, which is already limited, and creating conditions for the kind of insane driving habits you see in the country.
Speed limits. Kenya’s speed limit for urban settlements is 50 kph – but no one enforces this at all. Tanzania and Rwanda have the record for the strictest enforcement rules in urban area, where you are restricted to just 50 and 60 kph, respectively. In Rwanda, the speed limit is generally 60 kph: there are a few places where you are allowed to go up to 80 kph, but no more! In some places, right in the villages, you are required to ride at no more than 40 kph. The signages showing the speed limits are very visible on the roads for Tanzania and Rwanda, and mostly invisible in Kenya. Uganda is a lot like Kenya – laissez passer. Ride on, and you will not get caught in either of the two countries. The only country that truly enforces speed limits for motorcycles is Rwanda.
Driving at night and street lighting. The densest network of streetlights is to be found in Kenya. No country comes close. Nairobi alone has 54,000 streetlights and 13,000 public lighting masts which cover about 30 percent of the city. However, the crux of the matter is how many of these lights actually work at night – and the country has the lowest proportion of streetlights that actually work at night, in the region! Kenya Power data shows that Nairobi used 29 gigawatt hours (GWh) to light up its streets in 2017. Since then, the proportion of working streetlights has declined even further – and vandalism is the greatest cause.
In Kenya, Uganda, Tanzania, driving at night is generally not recommended driving. Street lighting is a myth in these three countries, for the reasons explained by a number of people (vandalism, poor management, inability of local governments to pay, and generally poor culture of maintenance).
Nighttime riding is not a problem at all in Rwanda. If you must ride at night, it is slightly easier in Tanzania and absolutely not a problem in Rwanda. In Tanzania (and in all of Rwanda) you will be aided by the fact that the major Tanzanian (and Rwandan) highways are not only well-marked, but they have reflective road studs (a.k.a. cat’s eye reflectors), marking the centre lines and the edges all the way. The cat's eye reflectors also retroflective, meaning they redirect light back toward the source (your bike’s lighting) with minimum scattering, optimizing visibility for your bike.
In Rwanda, highway lighting is a key component of their road construction and management ethos. For example, from Gatuna, all the way to Kigali and past the capital to the city of Gisenyi, where Rwanda borders the giant DRC, the entire 230 kilometers is fully lit with working LED streetlights. The same goes for the highway to Butare. In the matter of streetlights Rwanda has no peer in East Africa. Kigali, the capital city, is the best-lit capital city in East Africa, by far. When it comes to street lighting, Uganda has a lot of catching up to do, as the country’s streets are the darkest in the region.
Next article: money (where to change, what to avoid) and communication (SIM card, data charges, etc.).

ProblemChild1:
Maitama. It will take Nairobi 10 years to catch up with maitama. Maitama is bigger and larger than eastlands and westland combined. Not to talk of Asokoro, gwarinpa, wuse and wuse 2, Jabi, jahi, Wuye, Life Camp, Garki, Guzape and Katampe, Lokogoma, Gapo and mabushi.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-alJ-1gTsk



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr5MyzRSHIw

Drive from Wuse 2 to Sun City, Abuja.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjFD2lrjfuo

Nobody recognised those cheap gov built estates outside Abuja.Its certainly has nothing on Nairobi world class residential estates.

My car travelling Nigeria declare kenya far ahead of the Zoo. https://twitter.com/IanECox/status/1646104123165618177?s=19

But 3/4 of Nairobi is great - 1/4 more decent than anything in Nigeria - just 2.5% are slums.
All areas from Roysambu - in your Nigeria apartment of 10 people - just drive from there- Thome to Garden Estate to Balozi to Ridgeways to Runda to Muthaiga to Gigiri to Rossyln to Nyari to Kyuna to Kitusuru to Lower Kabete to Loshero to Msongari to High riidge to Parklands to Chiromo to River side to Kileleleshwa to Lavington to Spring valley to Kilimani to Adams Arcade to Ngong road to Ngumo to Nairobi West to Madaraka to South B to South C to Langata to expansive Karen

That more that 3/4 of Nairobi land mass consisting of prime property. That is Nairobi West, North and South.

We move to Nairobi Eastland - they are still better than many of your best areas.Nigeria will struggle to look like Zimmerman to Kahawa West to Kasarani to Umojas to Kayoles to Embakasi to the Pipelines to Eastleigh to Buru buru to Makadaras - they are a mess but still better than many Nigeria places.

Yes Nairobi has epic slums in Kibra, Kawangware, Kangemi, Mathare Valley, Soweto, Mukuru slum complex. Those are again 2.5 percent of Nairobi and apart from Kibra that is large visible from Langata - the rest are hidden in river valleys. And they are source of cheap labour for Nairobi west

68816419:
Yoi need to rephrase your sentences like this “ Apart from Nairobi CBD plus the tiny developed parts of Westland and upperhill....”

Nairobi has already overtaken Capetown in most ranking I have seen lately. I dont have my own ranking but out there - Nairobi is world 11st most ecological city, 11th most preferred city by experts, 4th most dynamic city, name it.

ProblemChild1:
Stay away from Colorado this man. It's not good for your health. Your Nairobi is not even at the level of Pretoria or Durban let alone Johannesburg and even Cape Town.

See the Cape Town you're dreaming to catch up with. Maybe in the next 50 years to come.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0m0ydpffPw

Did you kill Mombasa which way better than that smog filled polluted dirty city of PH

ProblemChild1:
Apart from Nairobi. No place in Kenya would ever come close to Port Harcourt. And soon, Port Harcourt will soon catch up with Nairobi with the current development in that City. Dey play.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUXzUTNKkjY



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4y-dsKjBtlY

Who can risk their live crossing Ambazonia - with rebels there.

68816419:
There is just one border crossing between Cameroon and Nigeria, according to the crazy person. He lied.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Npsoi1MHcM

He was from Europe - cant quite recall which country - was going through with his bike. He passed through Benin to Lagos - the amount of police road blocks I saw in that video was crazy - look like every 2km - police or immigration have roadblocks. Then very old cars. He didnt stay in Lagos a lot. Then drove to I think Calabar through Port Harcourt to Cameroon.

I really like Ambazonia. Seem Cameroon is fairly decent country if you ask me...despite the civil war.

GeneralDae:
The white man you saw (from Newzealand I guess) didn't go to Ikeja but Makoko and Oshodi.

Maybe you have another Nairobi. Otherwise the NAIROBI we know is now overtaking Joburg and Capetown. Not port whatever.
I have watched couple of drone of Port Harcourt - it a huge mess.

68816419:
With malls, schools,Estates hospitals, Stadiums and many other amenities, these are more like mini cities than streets. Consider the old and new GRA example; they span an area larger than the entire Nirobi CBD.

Sound like youre naming streets in one estate. Last I heard about it - was pollution problem with smog. I also watched video of white dude passing there - and the amount of garbage - and bad roads he found - was truly shocking.

68816419:
Man, I think you're losing it. The fastest-growing metropolis in all of Africa is PH, and the state as a whole has recently seen significant infrastructure development. To compare developed sections of PH with Nairobi is much more depressing. No city in Africa spends as much on infrastructure as Porthacourt, where the state has built over ten enormous flyovers, innumerable highways, hospitals, and schools without assistance from the federal government.
Without Further-a-do, below is our list of best places to live in port harcourt;
New G.R.A
Old GRA
Agip
Golf Estate
Cocaine Estate
Mgbuoba
RoyalVilla Estate
Rumuibekwe
Peter Odili Axis
Eliozu
Sars Road
Harmony Estate
Woji
Ada George ......
Residential areas
1- Old GRA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl186UofKa0
2 - New GRA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bON7ftr8Xf8

3 -Peter Odili

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kleYfEUWc88
Business Districts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4y-dsKjBtlY

Ethiopia, Nigeria and soon Egypt - you got fix this problem.

WB President @DavidMalpassWBG on #Ethiopia, "they have an official exchange rate which is available to the few and a parallel market exchange rate that is very expensive for the rest within the country and it has not worked very well..We will again be tackling that in the Debt Round Table and in our meetings this week to see if there can be a breakthrough. because the number of people's lives that are at stake is huge..."

Is it any different - I watched one guy drive through Ambazonia - it even more chaotic and dangerous with cameroon rebels.

GeneralDae:
His guy is driving in rural Benue.

KaziKazi - this where you lost the plot - and will not catch up soon. 1969.

TZ enacted Mao-style communism - forcing communities into villages - and collective farming.
Kenya on the other hand - kicked out the India merchant class - so Kenyans could move from farming to retail & trade. A few Indians did move to manufacturing while majority left for UK & Canada.

He decided to drive around Africa - kenya - TZ all the way to South Africa - then along southern cost to Angola - Congo - Eq Guiner- Cameroon- then Nigeria. I have no idea when he will stop or whether he will go back; It dare devil mission.

GeneralDae:
This your man seem to be in Benue state. What's he doing there? I'm curious.

Did you just lose electricity in your little hovel in Soweto or why are you angry with IMF data

AfriqueDuZuid:
Nonsense

AfriqueDuZuid:
Angola is over 124b now

Kenya slipped to 8th place now

Then we had power blackout then that latest imf data