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You think we have your slave DNA. No we are the Africa Warriors. Born Free.
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vankelvin:
Son you are good, you really know much about your Masters, that's good

We have no history of kings, masters, slaves, name it.
Kenya tribes are fiercely independent and impossible to tame into a kingdom.
Ghana - you were slaved for 500yrs - colonized from 1812!! - and even right now you still have kingdoms with slaves.
And princes - who OWN ALL the LAND.
WIth the pope.

Kenya is nearest you can find to free people.

We are free and have almost been free - without a king - all decision made through consensus.

We got colonized for 50yrs - we fought to stop it (10yrs of bloody war) - and we fought armed struggle (10yrs of very bloody war) to kick the brits just 50yrs later.

All Kenya tribes of 44 - only one sub tribe near Uganda had a kingdom - the rest were free people impossible to be controlled into a kingdom.

https://www.careerpoint-solutions.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Born-Free-Foundation.png

vankelvin:
No need to challenge your Masters.
India is still one of the most powerful nations in the World.

Please educate me. Compare Gujaratis and the Persi (irinian immigrants living in Gujeratis). The difference?

LVM3:
Don't want to go into this too much but you don't have a clue.

Gujarati as state may not be that much - just like Isreal - But Gujarati all over the world - are well known businessmen and merchants. As for Parsian - are they Iranians. Tata is one man...but Gujaratis have many more including Ambanis.

LVM3:
lol, no need to display your ignorance once again.

There are ethnic groups in India which are far richer than Gujaratis. States like Haryana Maharashtra & Much of Southern India are ahead of Gujarat. Some of these states have Human development indicators comparable to developed world.

The Jews of India are the Parsis. Heard of Tata group?

That is you and your retrogression.

In Kenya - Asian (majority gujarati indians) - are now officially recognized as indigenous tribe as any other. Many indians are elected in parliament.

On 22 July 2017, the Uhuru Kenyatta government announced that the Asian community would be officially recognised as the 44th tribe in Kenya recognising the community's contribution to Kenya from the dawn of the nation.

https://www.voanews.com/africa/kenyans-asian-descent-become-nations-44th-tribe

LVM3:
I don't see many people agreeing with you. On the internet you can see Africans eulogizing Idi Amin for expelling Indians. Whites & Indians are targeted in SA by black supremacists.

Africa is not or doesn't want to be a multicultural multi-ethnic society.

Maybe I can respect the 50M odd Gujaratis who have long history as merchants - and practically control India. The same way I respect the Jews. But for the 1.3B indians less the Gujaratis - they are mostly piece of crap - openly defeacting - and hobbled by caste system that codemned them to slavery.

vankelvin:
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Please limit all your comparisons to Africa, don't try to educate Indians on how they should govern their country. Whether Good or bad India can match many African Countries combine.

Yes they have their flaws but a Kenyan cannot advise an Indian over anything. Remember they rule your country?

Only South Africans, Ghanaians and Nigerians can school Indians not Kenyans. You can't school your Masters (Indians). respect your Indian Gods.

Now you're into racial nonsense. Kenya Indian is a kenya. Not an indian. He lives here, pay taxes here and his kids will be here - and so will the grand kid.If Chinese come to kenya and make helicopters - it will have been made in Kenya.

India and Nigeria are neck and neck on poverty and open defecation.

Sub-Sahara Africa due to geographical reason was closed to human civilization for many years.

We started getting into civilization train 100yrs ago - and look - we are at par with India.

India - has been civilized for - 3,000 yrs if I am not wrong.

And it remain dirty poor - all those centuries. There is nothing but false hopes. You could have developed say in 10th century

LVM3:
Developed by whites, lol.



Until you start comparing percentages. But that's way too complicated for people who are yet to make a decent motorcycle by themselves.



Err....don't see how that will happen. Maybe you should stop daydreaming & build a decent steel mill before making such claims.

I am not into military stuff but I know South Africa do make helicopters. Kenya has bought some - one killed our Minister of Security.

As for India - you'll remain the open defecation HQ of the world and poverty capital - after well Nigeria.

China came and passed you - and I bet Africa will develop faster than you !

Look at India - a very old civilization - but hobbled by caste system that codemn the majority into slavery.

Now Africa for most part was closed from any civilization but in just 100yrs - is neck to neck with India - with maybe 3,000 yrs of civilization.

LVM3:
Last time I checked, an African nation have higher percentage of people doing business in the open. Guess which one??

Maybe make a dung missile with it given your state of technological development, lol. Might work unlike African helicopters.

The 70B dollar spent on military can be used to provide Indians with basic sanitation. I don't understand why India and many of these countries invest obscene money - for what - so you can have Kashmir.

The only missile you'll be dropping are dung on your streets!

Deal with open defecation before going into hypothetical war with Africa - war over what?

LVM3:
Sorry I am not. I came here only because India was being dragged into a totally unrelated discussion.

You are already feeling the pressure. Or it's the alcohol withdrawal syndrome
South Africa last in 2010 had GDP of 375.3 billion USD (2010).
South Africa GDP as we speak is now 300B or less.

Let move to fast rising Kenya - black and proud - Not useless Azanias placed under Dutch coloniliasm for 500yrs since 15th century and apertheid in their own country

Kenya GDP in 2010 - 40B dollars - South Africa was 10 times.

Move to 2020
Kenya GDP 100B - just 3 times lower than South Africa.

Now use simple projection - 2030

Kenya GDP will have at least double to 200-250B.

South Africa GDP will also be around there 200-250B - as white men leave - and hapless uneducated black south african take over.

AmenhotepZuid:
SA WILL NEVER BE SCARED OF TINY KENYA IN EVERYTHING. Pity they are fooled by few planned projects where they are building few skyscrapers ranging from 300m to 370m and thinking that fills the stomachs of HUNGRY Kenyans in KIBERA?

PLEASE START A THREAD ON AFRICAN ROADS WE ARE LOADED I WILL PITCH THE WITH LOADS OF PHOTOS. MAVROS!!!!!

Why would I be bitter when your prognosis is bad.

Urban-rural migration without jobs - is giving you kwerekwere xenophobia gangs, drugs, and all that happens in squalor.

What you need to do is to discourage this - by investing in rural places.

So people don't have to rush to towns - but can live comfortable life in rural areas.

At least in rural areas - people will grow their own food - and don't have to rent a house - and don't have to live desperate urban life that leads them to crime

Get land reforms going on - give majority black land - and teach them to farm.

Austine1213:
Heal that bitter heart, move one and grow up

Kenya tea has been on double digit growth for about 30yrs - now India is retreating - from global tea market.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/economy/agriculture/kenya-taking-over-global-markets-indian-tea-producers-look-inward-for-price-recovery/articleshow/80481831.cms

Magufuli Pombe Kazikazi now ask Tanzania not to bother with COVID-19 or any vaccination.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUwPnQ9VolE

It's pathological. The guy is literally insane.

popizaino:
Save your breath or else you will start to question your sanity for arguing with an unrepentant liar .
Enough said.

Not good. That is why the slums are increasing in South Africa. China is at 60% - and is twice more developed than South Africa - with GDP per capita of 10K usd. China is a cusp of becoming a developed country (12K usd is entry level) and yet millions are still living in rural areas.

There is big difference btwn Urbanization and Slumization.

Countries should build commensurate infrastructure in urban areas or discourage rural-urban migration.

Otherwise you'll end up like West Africa - huge slumpolis - rusted after rusted iron roof - without any formal economy.

Look at the taxes collected - nothing - because everyone is living hand to mouth in those cities - hawking and selling stuff in small shops.

Austine1213:
South Africa urbanization is actually around 70%

Not the 55-60% claim.

Of course - you're more urbanized - than you should be - the infrastructure doesn't support it. South Africa is at 55-60% - and is a middle class country - with per capita 6000usd - and Ghana you have same urbanization - with gdp per capita not even 2000. China just got to 50% urbanization.

Now tell me what are 15M ghanian doing in urban areas? Practically nothing - except to hustle- they should be farming.

A town of 10,000 residence is huge - if it has the proper infrastructure - leave alone 67,000 - that you call a village.

Now your entire cities are just slums.

vankelvin:
Do you now agree that Ghana is more urbanized than Kenya? cos we have lot of towns that have more than 250,000 population.

Village of 67,000 people? Villages where I come from have anything less than 500 people.

A town of 67,000 people should be HUGE.

Just30:
Why would any Ghanaian village want to compare itself to slums in Kenya?



We said no to roadless slums without water supply a long time ago.

oh you want to see Akosombo too?

67,000 is a lot of people. Kericho town has 27,000 residence - and has 10-15 floor buildings. Your slumpolis are crammed. Most kenya towns are not even 60,000.

Kenya cities like Eldoret, Nakuru - are not even 250,000.

Your towns and cities just lack the infrastructure to host that many population...that is why they are slumpolis.

Now show us Akosombo dam
Ghana will NEVER compare to kenya.

Just30:
Rant on

I posted a community of 67,000 people living in mansion and all you have to show is a small estate somewhere in the slums of kisumu with untarred roads ?





Let me give you more headaches of mansions from Akuse, a village of 7,000 people.

Its district has a population of 89,000 in the Eastern Region of Ghana.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5x52UNV4MI&t=59s

Reduce empty words. Put the videos. Not even South African can match the beauty of Kericho.

I know in Nigeria and Ghana - find a estates that is well planned is so hard - but in kenya - every town has such many estates - pick any town - and you'll find proper zoning.

This is Kisumu - Milimani Estate. Don't call any CRAP - mansion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eb4Np_9glfQ

Just30:
again, poor hut size houses without roads


That's a rural slum


This is like the scattered settlements of Northern Ghana.


A poor people co habitation space.



You saw between 5000 square meters to 20,000 square meter mansions in my video and you went to look for huts in Kenya to compare.


Poverty is really a disease

You're beyond blind. Kenya is incredibly beautiful country.

You cannot even match rural kenya - now you're going towns - village

This is my rural home - when any part of West Africa get near here - please let me know

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6MLFAGIr04

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7rqMuJeLTY

Just30:
There nothing in Kenya that can be as beautiful and filled with the kind of mansions in here.
Go cry somewhere else

Village or Town. And that is the best you got?

Just30:
This video brings to mind Kwahu Obo in the Eastern Region of Ghana where most of the richest people in Ghana comes from.
A village/Town of 67,000 people living in mansions


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zzJZmJmTvM&t=1317s

Don't you get tired writing nonsense 24-7 - nonsense bereft of any thought.
Is Seun paying you to generate filler content
Is rat soup that great

Just30:
West Africans live in well structured communities far developed than anything your country can offer .

Go and be stupid with your fellow underdeveloped east Africans.

The best of communities in your country dont have tarred roads and when they do, its usually in a bad state.

The slums where 80% of you can afford to live in too, you dont have water and your roads are untarred and health facilities are nonexistent.

I forgot to add that the electricity is not even stable, have you checked the schedule to see if your neighbourhood wont be going off tonight ?

That's triple trouble

Mogadishu is better than Nigeria. Show me drone footage of Nigeria city. Is that you don't afford drones.

68816419:
Nigga , every city(at least some poshy areas ) of every country looks nice with drones , road trips of inner city , defines how well planned and Developed a country/city is.
Here is drone shots of Somali, Mogadishu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2fq0YBrRB4

2%. The slumscrapper need minor fixes - like paving roads, planting trees, flowers, etc. As for nigeria - how do you fix a slumpolis..integrated slum

68816419:
So, what percentage of Nairobi structures should be demolished to make a "Developed" nation?

99% of west africans live in slumpolis.
Find definition of a slum.
And stop being ignorant.

Just30:
Another excuse for why no where in Kenya can look as good as East Legon.




Meanwhile those are where your rich people and foreigners live.

While 60% of nairobians live in terrible slum where theres no water supply

Please give me drone footage. All I have seen in Nigeria are roads. I can shoot video of any random road. It's no biggie.

68816419:
, if u couldn't build inner street roads how do u then Develop?.
Imagine the poorest state in Nigeria having better infrastructures than your capital City, what does that tells u?
Yola, Adamawa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc778g0y-_w

When we got for building - you ran to water. When we get to water - you run to electricity - when we get to electricity - you run to housing shortage.

Just30:
Ghanaian communities dont compete with slums


Go seek attention from somewhere else.


Your cities dont even have water supply
Yet you want to compare yourself to a rich Ghana that supplies every part of the majority of it cities and even villages with water.

At least we are talking only the roads - and we get to South Africa standards. For you - start with electricity. At least Ghana is on step 2. Although honestly like rwanda did - they need to demolish like 3/4 of their current cities. - and rebuild a fresh. It not possible to say fix roads like Nairobi and kaboom you're developed. It nuking the entire slumpolis down.

68816419:
Is there any parts of Nairobi with no bad roads?, even Karen has bad roads., Nairobi is slums

Very small - 40km to 60km - are your crazy.
Nairobi radius of 40km is almost completely built up. That is HUGE.
The 60kms is starting to get filled up. That would make it 10,000Kms. That is nearly ten times Lagos city. 3 times the state

Just30:
A very small estate with bad roads while Akosombo is a beautiful place with great roads

We are still waiting for video. Muthaiga has bad roads...maybe the main road where public taxis are allowed. Please note in Nairobi many estate public taxis are forbidenn.

Nairobi proper is too much for entire west africa - including banana island and victoria.

It nearly south africa level

As you find us drone footage of ghana...please take a look at westland for example....not even the best


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdSFW5eBtxQ

Just30:


Akosombo is a beautiful area with very good roads


Your kitengela is a slum

I wont even dignify it to compare it to East Legon especially when Runda, Karen and the European settlement of muthiaga combine cant match up to East Legon.

Your first class neighbourhood of Muthiaga has terrible roads.

Nairobi metro - 30-40kms from Nairobi CBDA - Juja to thika - nowhere in ghana or their slumpolis nigeria can even get here this century - that is like 40kms from NAIROBI IN ANY DIRECTION

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP0vtmc-GVk

When you quote something - share the link - share when report was done and by who - Nairobi slums enjoy water and electricity

68816419:
Hmm , u totally leave in a different world from most Kenyans, do u even know that Nairobi alone has over 40 slums?.
The same unhabitate u quoted have this to say
"Existing figures are compelling evidence of the dire situation in many of
Kenya’s urban centres. Depending on the city, 60 to 80 percent of Kenya’s
urban population lives in slums characterised by lack of access to water and
sanitation, adequate housing, and secure tenure, and where many experience
acute security and health problems and are dependent on the informal sec￾tor for survival. For instance, in Nairobi, 60 percent of the population lives in
slums that occupy only 5 percent of the total land area of the city. The growth
of these slums is unprecedented, with the number of slum dwellers expected
to double within the next 15 years. Only 22 percent of slum households in
Nairobi has water connections, while 75 percent accesses water through
water vendors who overcharge, making slum dwellers pay more for their
water than people living in middle- or high-income areas. The provision of
sanitary services is also inadequate and the use of open spaces and “flying
toilets” is common. In places like Kibera, poor environmental sanitation leads
to waterborne and vectorial diseases such as diarrhoea and malaria. Epidem￾ics such as cholera and typhoid are occurring with greater frequency.
This grim reality provides the persuasive justification for slum upgrading
initiatives in the country aimed at improving living conditions"