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jln115:
Love the pics!!!Keep them coming!!

Thanks. But the rest of the pics are of systems we all know. Rooikat etc etc. Dont want to overflood the forum. Was looking for specialised equipment we dont really see....e.g the bomb disposal robot. Need to meet a friend around Nasrec on monday, so might pop in for more pics i missed.

Although i did see Goodluck Jonathan....now that he has more time on his hands.

Kameelperd Mobile Radar (Project Bioskoop)

When standing next to it, its hard to believe it all folds up onto the back of a truck. Quite intimidating.

Found this interesting. Mobile (trailer mounted) satellite communication system with 1 Signal Regiment. There is a 2m (approximately) satellite dish just above this. Operator said wherever his commanders need satellite comms, they can deploy the system. Said the system has been in service for about 4 years. Took a chance, asked him which satellites it communicates with....of course he said thats classified. System comes with secure/encrypted comms equipment in another trailer next to it.

Rooivalk nose mounted sighting system and 20mm cannon. Mokopa anti-tank also on display.

Wire guided torpedo.

SA Army Engineers

Bridge Deploying tank and Bomb Disposal Robot

Tactical Intel

Mobile (truck mounted) intel command centre. This was impressive.

Tactical Intelligence

Squire Man-Portable Ground Radar (Thales) and other tactical sighting systems

Went to the Rand Show today to view the SANDF display.

Special Forces

agaugust:
Nope, look up at my post before your headless reply....you spoke too soon

By the way, world class armies uses Nigeria's type of field TV strapped on Hilux type of 4x4....fast , mobile, helicopter portable.

You don't know what a real life modern day battlefield looks like in South Africa, your army never deploys in big battle space...cowards

OIL RICH ARMY OF DUBAI/UAE SHOW; NIGERIA'S TYPE OF TV FOR BATTLEFIELD SURVEILLANCE TV

@saengine....photo below is death blow to your already battered ugly face
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GTFOH with that outdated cra.p. I'm sure not one single soldier has seen that system since 30 years ago.


Please don't use the phrase "world class" anywhere near the word Nigeria. What is that UAE system used for? If its used to patrol borders for smugglers and illegal immigrants, then its not for "battlefield surveillence". Why isnt that truck in a military scheme?

Your mounting is of concern because your soft skin Hiluxes will be opened like a can of sardines.

patches689:
[size=15pt]How SANDF is 66 years ahead of Nigeria in ground surveilance!!

Ratel EAOS

Other elements of the system include a portable target acquisition system for dismounted artillery observers, a target acquisition RPV, datalinks between these systems and regimental and battery fire-control posts, ballistic software that runs on IBM-compatible PCs, a gun management system, a muzzle velocity analyser, a meteorological system and a rugged computer and data communication system.

This is a rebuild of an existing Ratel with its turret removed and a raised superstructure added to the rear of the driver's position. Pivoted either side of the hull is a hydraulically operated mast on top of which is a multisensor head which contains a day/night observation payload consisting of a three-in-one video camera for daytime acquisition, a long-range zoom and FLIR TV cueing, an Eloptro-developed FLIR and an Eloptro LH-31 laser range-finder with a video channel. This system provides accurate daytime observation to 20 km and night observation to 3.5 km.
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product1128.html


Project Cytoon will see the gain 14 Thales Squire ground surveillance radars, 65 Thales Sophie thermal imagers, processors and communications equipment as part of a battlefield surveillance and mobile intelligence processing system.

Thales Squire man-portable system, which was ordered for Cytoon, can plot a pedestrian at 10km, a vehicle at 21km, a tank at 28km, a helicopter at 21km, a boat at 12km and a ship at 48km, Thales avers. Because it uses a frequency modulated continuous wave Doppler radar, the Squire is also virtually undetectable to hostile electronic warfare experts, it adds.

The Thales Sophie can spot humans at over 4km, tanks at 10km, helicopters at 12km and jet fighters at 16km, Thales says.
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=25861:cytoon-handed-to-the-army&catid=50:Land&Itemid=105

The radar is integrated with automatic target classification facilities for persons, wheeled vehicles, tracked vehicles and helicopters, and cannot be detected by hostile electronic support measures (ESM) equipment and radar warning receivers.
http://www.army-technology.com/news/newssouth-african-army-receives-new-tactical-intelligence-system
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This was a death blow. Im sure he's on the kitchen floor, holding himself in a ball and crying.

He came here posting Nigeria's system strapped to the back of a Hilux, thinking it would impress people. He was never ready.

agaugust:
New missile with little info known about it, even Janes has no full details. Strange missile until China releases all data. New weapon, fool !
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Look at you running like a little b*tch. Which other info is missing? 7 years is still a new missile? Janes went to IDEX, manufacturers went to IDEX. Hence Janes Defence knew about the helicopter launches and your useless Wikipedia could only say "other platforms". Dont you dare even pretend to know as much as Janes Defence regarding this weapon.

Again you have been caught out in a lie...simple. If you say China hasnt released all data, who gave you the balls to publicly state on here that it can be fired by land platforms? Let alone Nigerian land platforms? Damn fraud. Useless.

agaugust:
You have a source, I too have a source, so what exactly is wrong with that? Na only you get source?

" However, the developer of the AR-1, the China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation (CASTC) has claimed that the AR-1 missile can also be carried by platforms other than a UCAV."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HJ-10
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Janes >>> Wikipedia.

And Janes shows that the other platform besides UCAV's was Chinese Helicopters. You on the other hand just pulled your own imaginary fantasy out your a.ss.

Again...tell us which Nigerian land platform can fire that missile. Foo.l

agaugust:
Manufacturer says so :

" However, the developer of the AR-1, the China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation (CASTC) has claimed that the AR-1 missile can also be carried by platforms other than a UCAV."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HJ-10

Go kiss your canvas shoes in the mud
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http://www.janes.com/article/49455/update-idex-2015-blue-arrow-9-further-expands-chinese-uav-weapon-options


"CASC unveiled its first UAV missile, the AR-1, in 2008. The semi-active laser-guided missile can be used with CASC's CH-3, CH-3A, and CH-4 UAVs, which a Chinese source at IDEX said have been sold to around 5-10 countries.While it has been test-fired 30-40 times, including from Chinese helicopters, the 8-10 km-range AR-1 is currently designed only for use with UAVs."


Errrr....which LAND platforms? Not one single land platform. No name, nothing. You f*cken fraud. You just keep making sh*t up. Give us the name of the Nigerian land platform which can fire AR-1 missiles. Damn fraud.

agaugust:
AR-1 missile can be used by land based infantry, range is 10 km.

Rooivalk is a nice breakfast meal for Roland SAM with 8 km range .

SANDF is dëad
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Which land based vehicle can fire AR-1 missile? You and your fake engineering...just making sh*t up. Show us which vehicle fires AR-1?

agaugust:
Ingwe missile gets defeated by T-72 smoke launch.

Nigeria has new anti-tank missiles with 10 km range , that is double your Ingwe 5 km short range

You just get your SANDF roasted for Easter dinner, better go fight Lesotho or Burundi.....avoid Nigeria o !
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Ingwe is highly resistant to counter - measures, and smoke being the most basic of those counter -measures. Your tanks will be turned into scrap metal.

What platform can AR-1 missile be fired from? They are limited to UAV's.


http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-29527/


"Wessels said the Ingwe can now be fired from both land vehicles and helicopters - including Denel's Rooivalk combat support helicopter. 

The Ingwe IPLS can engage stationary and moving targets at ranges from 200 metres up to 5 000 metres. It is a laser-guided beam-riding system is virtually undetectable and highly resistant to countermeasures."

agaugust:
Nope, the sea argument is over, you lost at sea. i am now back to land to slay @saengine there too

You are delusional. Infact you aren't....you're just bored. And want attention. Simple question....when T-72 tanks are in the water, firing at frigates, are their tracks touching the sea bed or not? What is your definition of "deep ocean"?

agaugust:
I was never in debate about floating tanks, DO NOT divert attention away from your defeat....

Main battle tanks do sea operations.....they snorkel in deep ocean, they can sink a frigate 4km away, those are the original arguments.

I won....3 Southies screwed on Easter day
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Useless. You ate too many easter eggs.

How deep is this deep ocean? Can you stand in this "deep ocean"? When these imaginery main battle tanks move through this deep ocean are their tracks touching the sea bed or not?

Useless.

I love how he ignores the question. Is THIS T-72 tank in the picture below (that YOU originally posted) floating or not? Yes or No? You claimed that this is how you would fire at us, commander even out of the turret. Is this tank floating or not? Yes or No?

agaugust:
Nope, my first 3 photos this morning included the Type 63 tank, and that is what I intend to post, google may bring random images on a single search, but I started this morning with photo of 5 Type 63 tanks with red flags flying on them, go back up page and see my first posts.

I have also shown Heavy Abrams tanks with snorkels dumped into the sea, and it is heavier than a T-72.

My point is proved, heavy tanks do battle at sea up to snorkel level, and if enemy warships appear, they will fire and sink it from 4 km far distance away.

PROVED !
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Lmao! "Dumped into the sea"

A 10 year old boy can stand where that tank is being "dumped into the sea". That is not deep ocean. Just because you can swim dont come here claiming that a metre of water is "deep ocean".

agaugust:
Heavy tanks with heavy armour get dumped into the ocean in amphibious landing and have to snorkel ashore from sea to land.

Those heavy M1A1 Abrams tanks in photo below are NOT amphibious tanks, they have huge snorkels at their backs.

You Southies should just accept defeat and stop baseless arguments, I have proved you wrong with photos and even @saengine has run away


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You havent got the slightest clue what you are talking about. That pic is your definition of "getting dumped into the ocean"? Oh my gosh.

That f*cken tank is driving straight off the ramp (which is resting on the sea floor) onto land. That tank's tracks will be in contact with the sea floor at all times. Can you not see your own damn pic? Are you blind? Can you not see all that beach sand?

Or maybe you've never been to the beach before. You dont know how a "beach works"

As i have said. Just because the tank gets wet...it doesnt mean its in deep ocean.

agaugust:
Show us the sand these tanks are driving on ......you fvcking fool
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That is not a tank. Even worse that is not a T-72 tank. That is a light amphibious vehicle fitted with a turret. It is not a main battle tank. It is designed for water operations....tanks are not.

https://www.ausairpower.net/PLA/PLA-AFV-IMG-13-1S.jpg

Main battle tanks are not driven into deep water. Shown by your own pic....a landing craft brings them to shore. They drive through shallow water onto dry land.

Why did you run to the Chinese for pics? Will they fight for you? Show us your T-72 tank in deep ocean water. It cannot. Simple.

agaugust:
Thousands of main battle tanks have done major sea war operations in war history of amphibious battles.

Tanks do sea operations, and frigates are close to them in the sea, a tank can fire 4km range and sink a warship.

Below, I show you main battle tanks doing sea operations, that you Southies cannot imagine because your fvcking SANDF has never fought a sea battle since 1945

PHOTOS : MAIN BATTLE TANKS IN DEEP SEA OPERATION WITH BIG WARSHIPS CLOSE TO THEM

You still ask if I am a military researcher? Empty barrels make noises. I have helped you to update your outdated database again
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Again. You have failed. You have done nothing but embarrass yourself. Im sure even Nigerians on here are embarrassed for you. How can you say those are "deep sea" operations? You can clearly see the f*cken sand the tank is driving on. If the tank gets wet, that doesnt mean its "deep sea". Are you mad?

Is this your major comeback? Wow.

agaugust:
[size=13pt]@saengine....time to burst your bubble [/size]

Before you even waste your time typing. Let me remind you....T-72 tank has a maximum forging depth of 5m. Meaning it cannot traverse water deeper than 5m. What is a Navy frigate doing anywhere near water of 5m?

We all know you are going to type and type and type nonsense and try run away from your original point.

Let also remind you, before you type your nonsense that you posted the pic below...stating that this is how T-72 tanks do a water crossing. You said they DO NOT submerge.

You were asked the question....are you then saying the tank in the pic below is floating? Or is it driving on the base of that trench? You ignored the question because you knew it had destroyed you.

You were also shown videos of T-72 and T-90 tanks clearly submerged. Something you said they did not do. You suddenly became an engineer, telling us how the crew would die and how "small leaks would" stop the engine. Forgetting that while submerged all vital parts are completely sealed, and the crew get oxygen through a snorkel pipe.

You are arguing for the sake of arguing. Simple.

charlos14:
Against the south Africans who can't shoot, It will be a disaster for them to even try to fight.

Yeah. You'll be nice and safe inside the tank. No need to worry.

Ratel IFV fires Ingwe anti tank.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo6_emb8abM



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t58VFhCvgw

agaugust:
Bwahahaha....you are an internet based commentator

Each step I take you is where you stop and google, then quickly find something to post

Yes, I say it again, a tank is NOT a submarine and cannot fully submerge like a submarine, how many seconds did your tanks in the video stay under water? They can take quick dip across a river, they cannot stay submerged, no aquatic apparatus for crew underwater survival. They will soon die, and the engine compartment will succumb to small leakages that will soon flood the tank inside.

Tank is NOT = Submarine.

Even some car can quickly drive under a flood completely submerged with no snorkel for some seconds and come out alive, but with some interior flooding.

5m depth for Valour frigate? Did I say that? Now run back to google search on internet after I take you one step further.

During beach assault, tanks do not normally fully submerge, they snorkel or simply fording, yes, but their gun barrel is outside and ready to fire in a hostile area. Any tank fully snorkeling in a danger zone is looking for quick death from the enemy.

War is new to South Africans so you cannot think outside the box and picture a real combat scenario.

Your youtube videos are demo in-house videos, I will show you real war scenario today.

Beach landing amphibious assault, Frigates can escort landing ships to coastline, yes at the right depth, frigates go to coastline. Tanks like a T-72 in a beach assault can sight an enemy ship and attack it, the tank can fire up to 4km away from the beach deep into the ocean target.

Let me show you what real war looks like below....Now go seek more help from you tube
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Again you have failed. You have typed and typed and typed pretending to know what you are talking about. Tanks like the T-72, T-90, Tiger tank etc all have snorkels which provide air to the crew and the crew compartment is sealed from water. So tell us...what will kill the crew? Fo.ol.


The T-72 tank has a water forging MAX DEPTH of 5m. What is a Navy frigate doing anywhere near 5m of water? Meaning it traverses on the bottom of the river bed, while its complete snorkel/air supply sticks out of the water surface.

Main battle tanks do not do sea operations. Light infantry vehicles can. Light infantry vehicle =/= main battle tank..

You have been caught out. You fraud. Now you are panicking.

agaugust:
You still insist I said tanks float on water, you have NOT been able to quote where I said that. You know I am not the dullard here, it's you


Breech of a gun? It's English language and meaning available in dictionary for the whole world, even local hunters know a breech on their gun.


Fishing boat is NOT stealth, Valour frigate radar detected it, that is why your sailors fires 3 times on the same target, the radar gave them EXACT and PRECISION co-ordinate position of the vessel, yet your donkey brained blue water navy fired 76 mm gun 3 times and missed target 3 times.

Water does not enter barrel, see photo of snorkeling T-72 tank below, the barrel is above water, the tanks NEVER fully submerge, it is a tank NOT a submarine....see the tank commander in the photo even outside the turret watching out for enemy forces in the water, he will command the tank gunner to fire 125 mm powerful main gun on your Valour frigate and tank will sink your warship, your Soweto navy CANNOT retaliate and hit target.

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What is a Navy frigate doing in 5m of water? Which is the depth limit of the T-72 water crossing. Are you sure you're a military researcher?

Video 1: T-72 tank crossing water COMPLETELY submerged. Doing what YOU...."the military researcher" said it does NOT do. Crossing at 00:52.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E3eDA29iyk


Video 2. T-90 tank doing the same thing. Completely
submerged.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-QWQsDNsRs



Your pic is not a crossing at the max depth of 5m. You can even see the soil being kicked up behind it. That tank has its tracks on the surface of the trench. You fraud.

agaugust:
Quote for us where any Nigerian on this forum said Umkhonto missile only exists in DENEL laboratory, show us where we said that, quote it now !

It is Mokopa missile that we say is NOT EXISTING in SANDF arsenal and the source of that information is SAAF forum website and South African defenceweb news website, all those sources are South African, so go shööt them if their truth hurts you so badly

What I said about Umkbonto is , show us proof that all the 36 silos have missiles inside them, because the Exocets 32 launchers have only about 12 missiles inside the four frigates silos, the rest are empty photomania boxes that cannot kill a Tilapia fish

Exercise Good Hope is just another sea jamboree for headless Southie sailors that cannot shoot straight

Missiles fired, against a jet fighter that has anti-ship missiles? Try fire 15km range Umkhonto against a JF-17 that is beyond your Valour frigates reach 100 km away and sinking your weak warship with C-803 antiship missile, then you will know why I said SAN was doing sea festival and party with Germany.

SAN radars detected ships and aircraft, so what? Only you have radar in Africa? Cameroonian navy has radar to detect enemy forces too.

Thanks for the jamboree update brother, it was fun looking at the photos of the Soweto men that cannot target a fishing boat, yet they claim they can sink a whole NATO fleet in war

Jokers unlimited
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Good. I've realed you in now let me slap you like a small boy. Next time i post pics of Umkhonto...dont waste our time talking about Mokopa. Understand? Dont let your jealousy clout your very limited thinking. What made you talk about Mokopa with regards to a Navy pic?

I told you to go to Simons Town naval base and open those silos and count for yourself how many Umkhonto there are. Have you done that? SA Navy bought an undisclosed number of Umkhonto. Has fired them regularly and has been recorded them being resupplied. Google it. How dare you demand numbers of a clearly active missile program within our navy when you cant even produce one dirty pic of Nigerian navy firing missiles or even articles of naval missiles being fired in the last 30 years. Shame on you.


Gripen in the exercise is meant to simulate a wide variety of possibilites/fast jets. Thats why its called a f*cken exercise. Not all countries have jets armed with anti ship missiles. Thats why you simulate a fast, low attack on the ship. And respond accordingly.

SA/German Exercise

Last movements of Exercise Good Hope. Before that f*ol even comments he must explain how SA Navy fired Umkhonto missiles during the exercise. Missiles which he said are fake, and only exist inside the lab at Denel Dynamics.

German warship, SA submarine. Throughout the exercise the were tasked to detect and evade each other. And SA Frigate.
https://www.navy.mil.za/archive/1504/150401_Ex_Good_Hope_week3/pic06.JPG



SA Martime Reaction unit board German vessel
https://www.navy.mil.za/archive/1504/150401_Ex_Good_Hope_week3/pic09.JPG

https://www.navy.mil.za/archive/1504/150401_Ex_Good_Hope_week3/pic08.JPG


SA Navy frigate radar detected Gripen from far out. But for the sake of the exercise they pretended Gripen had struck the vessel, and sailors had to respond accordingly.
https://www.navy.mil.za/archive/1504/150401_Ex_Good_Hope_week3/pic04.JPG

https://www.navy.mil.za/archive/1504/150401_Ex_Good_Hope_week3/pic11.JPG



Extra

https://www.navy.mil.za/archive/1504/150401_Ex_Good_Hope_week3/pic05.JPG


https://www.navy.mil.za/archive/1504/150401_Ex_Good_Hope_week3/pic07.JPG

Bad day, filled with bad luck, for Goodluck.

MikeCZAR:
They field the Milan ATGM.

Yep, but Milan has a max range of 3km and seems bulkier.

I suspect special forces and maybe even parabats will be interested in this. Tripod mounted Ingwe missile. Small group of men hitting a key target 3/4/5km away then vanishing into the bush.


https://www.defenceweb.co.za/images/stories/LAND/Ingwe_man_portable_400x300_Guy_Martin.JPG