SANDF Exercise Ukuthula

shadowprimezero:
SANF Exercise UKUTHULA 2019 is an integrated exercise which will see the Military Component stabilizing the Country of Carana through military intervention (Scenario 6 of the AU).

What's up with your constant miss-spelling of SANDF?

Saudi Arabia has invited Denel with its RG-31 to be part of trials for a new 4x4 contract.

SA Police Special Task Force. Rural/semi rural operations.

shadowprimezero:


For the Egyptian MEKO 200's?

https://dsm.forecastinternational.com/wordpress/2019/10/01/denel-egypt-in-talks-on-umkhonto-deal/

"The Egyptian military is seeking to move forward with an acquisition of South African firm Denel’s Umkhonto, a surface-to-air missile.

Mail & Guardian, a South African newspaper, reported last week that Denel is working on a ZAR4.5 billion ($294 million) sale of missiles to the Egyptian Navy. According to the report, Egypt is seeking to procure the Umkhonto-R, a radar-guided variant of the Umkhonto missile. The newspaper reported that Denel and Egypt are discussing the supply of 96 Umkhonto-Rs. Its report added, “The state arms company also intends to sell 32 units of an infrared variant of the Umkhonto-R.”

The proposed missile contract comes with a ZAR1.5 billion advance, which would provide crucial support to cash-strapped Denel.

According to the report, Denel said the Umkhonto contract is related to ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems vessels, a possible reference to the Meko 200. Earlier this year, Germany’s government approved an export license for at least three Meko 200s, as well as three other unspecified frigates, to the Egyptian Navy.

It had previously been assumed that Egypt would arm its frigates with surface-to-air missiles from the Aster family.

Darren Olivier, an expert on African militaries who is the director of the website African Defence Review, noted the Umkhonto-R is still in development and has not yet made a test flight, meaning the proposed contract between Denel and Egypt involves funding for development purposes. It is not clear when the missile will be ready for serial production, but external financing from Egypt could speed the process along.

South Africa’s National Conventional Arms Control Commission (NCACC), a regulatory body, must approve the sale before it can move forward. The NCACC is obligated to consider the importing state’s human rights record when determining whether to approve a sale.

A South African government source expressed confidence to Mail & Guardian that the deal would be approved despite Egypt’s human rights record, given that the missiles are for surface-to-air purposes and therefore unlikely to facilitate human rights abuses. The source said, “You must remember Egypt is not under any arms embargo, so the financial benefits far outweigh the possibility of us finding ourselves on the wrong side of history.”

State-owned Denel has struggled to remain profitable amid declining orders from the South African military. The company is jettisoning loss-making businesses and looking to boost exports abroad to shore up its portfolio. The sale to Egypt would be the largest export contract in Denel’s history, underscoring the importance of the proposed deal."

saengine:
Apparently Denel is about to win its biggest ever export contract. Something to do with the Egyptian Navy....apparently.

Apparently it's a large number of Umkhonto surface to air missiles, and perhaps other stuff. Apparently....

lionel4power:
What is the Future of Denel?



 September 25, 2019 
Author: Scott Morgan
South Africa
---

The Mismanagement of the ecoinomy that plagued South Africa during the term of President Jacob Zuma is still having a negative impact on the Economy.

For more than a year now there have been concerns regarding the long term health of Denel. For some time now the company has been in financial distress but what happened over the weekend of September 21st may have a negative impact on the Defense Sector of South Africa as a whole.

During that weekend the company was supposed to make a scheduled delivery of 40 Military Vehicles to Chad. The Vehicles were ordered back in 2017 and the Chadian Government paid R100 Million as a down payment for these vehicles.

The total cost was between R230 Million and R250 Million depending on the source of information that you are using. This amount is a large chunk of money to renege on.

https://www.africanmilitaryblog.com/2019/09/what-is-the-future-of-denel

Article kinda doesn't make sense. This thing did not start on the weekend of the the 21st September. The South African and Chad governments have been in discussion about it long before then, this is just when the media picked it up.

And to the rest if your article, there are still many foreign potential partners interested in buying stakes in Denel subsidiaries or partnering on projects.

Silver Falcons - Team 83.

Falcons are made up of pilot instructors across the board (helicopter, transport) who practice for the team in their spare time.

shadowprimezero:
Wow. Things not looking great for Denel
https://city-press.news24.com/News/denel-blows-r250m-arms-deal-with-chad-20190923

That was never a "deal". That was an attempt by the previous corrupt CEO and board to loot Denel. When you think of the Casspir, do you think of Denel or a company called VR Laser?

Exactly....who is VR Laser? They literally tried to transfer the intellectual property of the Casspir from Denel to VR Laser. That's how corrupt Denel had become a number of years ago, when this 'deal' was signed. Same reason the Badger IFV is delayed. Same company, VR Laser had basically strong-armed Denel and its own manufacturing capabilities.

The Denel of today is a completely different company from 2-5 years ago. Previous board and CEO have been fired, and a few may end up in jail. Look out for news about a large export order.

Submarine escape suites. SA Navy.

Cont...

SA Navy yesterday...

shadowprimezero:


I really hope the upgrade holds up considering it's shockingly poor performance in Libya with a normal anti tank shaped charge doing this much damage.

Is it possible to briefly explain what was supposed to happen, perhaps with a pic from a similar case?

Some pics I took today. Asked the Gripen technician why the SAAF never displays any precision guided munitions on the Gripen. He's answer was that they 1. They generally don't show them to the public, and 2. It's not best practice to continually load and off-load munitions. SAAF Gripens are understood to carry Paveway PGM's

Apparently Denel is about to win its biggest ever export contract. Something to do with the Egyptian Navy....apparently.

jln115:
Sorry bud but I'm going to have to disagree

If we nver built any atomic weapons, then there would have been no reason to dismantle any bombs........ But we did however!!

You cannot call something that you've never tested a bomb. The SA program was limited to crude nuclear technology, hence they say it would have been similar to Hiroshima or Nagasaki....40 years after the fact.

It was a vast project yes, with lots of technical information that needed to be "dismantled" but not operational or even tested nuclear weapons.

TayserMahri:


The former president said they did make 6 of them. Albeit too secretively even cabinet ministers were unaware. Sort of like the first Mark I tanks by the Brits. Even those directly working on the project were fooled as to what they were making.



This one too

https://www.nytimes.com/1993/03/25/world/south-africa-says-it-built-6-atom-bombs.html

Again, SA never built atomic weapons. It had a test program that was never completed.

TayserMahri:


6 atom bombs and a semi-finished 7th Now proudly punching below your weight.

The Republic of South Africa never produced any atomic weapons. It had a program to try, but never succeeded.

SAAF

In DRC.

mysticwarrior:
weak South African soldiers, they got humiliated in Central African Republic by bunch of rebels, they fled without even fighting.

This is the most detailed description of that battle with names, times and locations. Absolutely nothing humiliating about it. Stop drinking too much palm wine.


'It was controlled utter f****** chaos'

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.timeslive.co.za/amp/sunday-times/lifestyle/2014-11-09-it-was-controlled-utter-f-chaos/


Soldiers who survived the Battle of Bangui for the first time give a full account of their ordeal. The first sign of trouble was when the special forces Land Cruisers arrived at the base riddled with bullets. Some men were limping and bleeding. The rebel advance had begun.

The base was on the outskirts of the steaming capital Bangui, near a Y-junction where the two main roads into the city meet. One headed northwest to Bouar, the main route to neighbouring Cameroon, the other due north to Damara, 70km away. The junction would soon become a site of carnage, where 13 South African soldiers were to die in three days of fierce fighting against impossible odds. Two more would die later of wounds.

Hours earlier, at 3pm on March 22 2013, a special forces convoy of four Land Cruisers and two Hornets (rapid deployment vehicles mounted with heavy machine guns) pulling rocket launchers were attacked on the Damara road by 200 Seleka rebels. Three men were wounded in the 15-minute fight.

The men of Charlie Company from 1 Parachute Battalion in Bloemfontein had been settling down for a quiet night, but instead, the 150 paratroopers had to spring into action. They loaded mortars, machine guns and ammunition on to trucks. It was dark by the time they left the base and deployed on two hills 4.5km away, off the Damara road. "The streets of Bangui were quiet," recalls Rifleman Given Mulaudzi. "That's always a bad sign."

The next morning, force commander Colonel William Dixon had just left the French embassy on the banks of the Ubangui River when word came that his paratroopers on the hills were under attack. Dixon raced to the front in his Land Cruiser, which doubled as his tactical headquarters, consisting of a driver, a signaller, two pathfinders and his second-in-command, Major Michel Silva. "As we drove through town we saw civilians running everywhere," says Silva.

Waves of "technicals" - pick-up trucks carrying Seleka rebels and with Russian anti-aircraft machine guns bolted on the back - raced down the Damara road, straight into Charlie Company's arc of fire. Far from the small, ragtag force they had expected, the South Africans faced thousands of rebels armed with machine guns, AK47s, mortars, grenade launchers and rocket-propelled grenades (RPGs). Seleka Colonel Ali Abubaker's technical was one of the first hit. "I lost seven of my men and three wounded," he recalls.

In a pattern that would be repeated in the coming hours, he fell back into the bush to attack again. Soon rebels were fanning into the bush to attack two South African platoons positioned on the left hill. Combat medic Staff Sergeant Serole Mampa returned rebel fire while a wounded soldier was rescued. "They had to carry him on a stretcher behind our vehicle until we reached an ambulance while I kept firing back," he says.

When Dixon and Silva arrived at 10am, the platoons on the left hill had withdrawn under heavy fire. Now the priority was to retake the hill. By then the special forces group had joined the action. "It was a moerse firefight," says Silva. The South Africans unleashed a barrage of machine gun fire, mortars and rockets at the hill, catching some civilians in the crossfire. "Within 30 minutes we gained the initiative," says Silva.

By 2pm the rebels were being driven back. The South Africans thought the fight was over. The worst was yet to come. During the lull, civilians were streaming past the soldiers towards Bangui, some carrying the severed genitals, ears and hands of slain Seleka rebels. "They were cheering us and holding up those things and saying: 'Thank you, South Africa, see what you have done!'" recalls Mulaudzi.

Mampa confirms the story: "Some carried testicles and some had hands as souvenirs. They said: 'Good, you have won! But tonight we will beat you at soccer.'" They were referring to a World Cup qualifier between the Central African Republic (CAR) and Bafana Bafana played in Cape Town that night. Ten minutes after the special forces group and Dixon's tactical headquarters reached the base in Bangui to rearm, the observation post on the Bouar road reported that 30 technicals were bearing down on the city from the northwest.

The special forces group raced past the Y-junction to form a skirmish line 10km from the base with four Land Cruisers and two Hornets armed to the teeth, along with Dixon's tactical HQ. An estimated 4500 rebels descended on the 35 South Africans , who held the line for two or three hours .

"It dawned on us that the Damara road attack was just a diversion," says Silva. A platoon of CAR soldiers on the road fired a few shots at the rebels, then fled. "While they were running, they changed sides and some of them started firing on us," says Silva. "We were being shot at from all sides." Four Hornets armed with 20mm cannon arrived from nowhere . They had just been flown in from South Africa and drove straight to the front from the airport - but only after an hour had been wasted offloading canteen stock from the plane, including crates of beers .

"The rebels just kept coming, in wave after wave," says Dixon. "It was controlled utter f****** chaos." Mohamed Tahir, a Seleka commander, says he lost "more than half" of his 500 men. "It was a very hard fight. The South Africans had very good materials and were good fighters," he says. With the sun setting, Dixon ordered his men to fall back. They limped to base on the rims of their Hornets and Land Cruisers, whose tyres had been shot to shreds. Nine of the men were wounded, including the special forces commander, Lieutenant-Colonel Solomon Lechoenyo, who briefed Dixon holding a drip in one hand, while medics attended to the bullet wounds in his legs.

Incredibly, not a single South African soldier had been killed yet, although both roads were littered with Seleka dead. By now it was getting dark, and Charlie Company on the Damara road would soon be cut off. Silva was sent with every available vehicle to evacuate them. When he arrived, Charlie Company was under attack again and had given up the left hill. Returning heavy fire, the men piled into a convoy of four Geckos and four Land Cruisers.

The convoy set off in the dark. Even though Dixon had requested armoured personnel carriers two months earlier, he had to evacuate his men in unprotected vehicles. It would cost them dearly. Mampa and Mulaudzi were in one of the lead Geckos. Mampa recalls seeing four men in Muslim robes sitting at the Y-junction. "They looked sad, as if they knew something bad was about to happen," he says. Next he saw a bloodied Muslim robe laid over a checkpoint rope lowered to the ground. Then sparks started flying as AK47 bullets struck the road ahead. Suddenly bullets, rockets and grenades rained down on them.

The survivors leapt off the vehicles, found cover and returned fire. Mampa heard frantic calls of "Medic! Medic!" He found himself dressing neck wounds on the run while rockets fell around him. But he had to prioritise, attending only to those he could save. "Some said: 'Go, go, I'm going to die fighting them,'" he recalls.

Some Land Cruisers exploded with drivers still in them. A CAR pick-up loaded with RPGs went up in a ball of flame. In the ensuing hand-to-hand combat one soldier beat a rebel over the head with the butt of his rifle and another buried his bush knife in a rebel's chest. Rebels interviewed described the encounter. "It was a big battle, very hot. There were many killed and wounded on both sides," says Captain Amin Ndojokama.

Silva says: "The force broke out of encirclement and fought their way back to the base in different groupings." Some of the troops lay low for a while before they made their way stealthily back to base at about midnight. By then Dixon's combat force of 200 soldiers had fired off 10 tons of ammunition and killed 1200 rebels. Headquarters ordered him to keep fighting, but he was virtually out of ammunition.

"I told them: 'Either we start negotiations or we will be wiped out to the last man.'" At 9pm a Seleka commander called to ask for a ceasefire. By then 25 of his men were unaccounted for. Dixon agreed. Not to would have been suicide.

SANDF in DRC

Tochex101:

Is that a time-piece on his wrist?

Altimeter. To know how high/low he is.

GeneralFarouq:

Who still need a diviner to tell them this dude is just looking for a conflict....every military in the world has funny vidoe to show... Just wondering why he keeps hoing after S.A...
If u are a nigerian, then u ought to nnow we have more and less of these vidoes...
Guys like this are one of many causes that killed "who has the strongest military on Africa"
Pls kindly take ur racist bid somewhere.

What's worse is that those are not even South African soldiers. Those are MK "vets".

@jln115

Sometimes when someone is hurting inside they do things to reach out and seek attention. It's the only way they know to fill that lonely void they have. Unfortunately engaging with them only temporarily fills that hole. They need to solve their inner turmoil themselves. Lol just ignore him.

South African in DRC. Unit...unknown (to me).

Xbee007:

What Subreddit?

r/MilitaryPorn

South African special forces preparing for a high altitude jump.

SA Special Forces. Pic stolen from Reddit.

Maroon berets SANDF.

I'm guessing this would have been at Kruger National Park. Special Forces & Task Force.