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Foreign AffairsRe: The UK Legalises Same-Sex Marriage by Sagamite(m): 5:12pm On Feb 08, 2013
kmcutez: But they are not condemning those countries practicing nudism, polygamy and polyandry. But you guys are the ones condemning them for making homosexuality legal. They are only appealing to countries not to make such an issue out of gay rights. you guys can equally tell them not to make such an issue out of nudism and the rest. Either way does not matter. Let everyone have tolerance.
No the moorons in the West and their brainwashed moronic kids are coming to condemn Africa and trying to force Africa to accept homosexuality.

It is a Cultural War we are in!
Foreign AffairsRe: The UK Legalises Same-Sex Marriage by Sagamite(m): 5:10pm On Feb 08, 2013
JeSoul: ROTFLOL... Saga, you gave me a good laugh in the middle of cleaning this thread. It's a pity, you have such good arguments, but unable to present them without being insultive, I really wish often that you would do better dude.

Anyways, @all posters, language please. And no more insults or a ban will be coming your way this beautiful Friday. Cheers.
WTF are you doing on this thread?

You moderate this section too? grin grin grin grin

Seun, I will kill you! angry

So Logicboy ran again to moderator after seeing he was in shyt.

grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

He needed to be saved by the bell as usual. grin grin grin grin grin

What a gutless wimp! grin
Foreign AffairsRe: The UK Legalises Same-Sex Marriage by Sagamite(m): 4:56pm On Feb 08, 2013
kmcutez: For polygamy it is a little bit tricky and depends on a lot of factor. it can either be victimless or not. So far as all parties are on board and there is no secrecy, then it is victimless and vice versa. But might be tricky to prove the truth in a court of law, to decide if it was victimless or not. your words vs mine. you get the drift.
What is so tricky to prove?

If someone puts a gun to your head to marry, the court will not hear it?

How does the courts know gay marriage is not victimless? That one is not tricky to prove in court but polygamy is?

You are forming your rubbish as you go along? grin grin grin grin grin

kmcutez: So maybe incest and nudism might be legalised one of the days, but i do not think a lot of people practice it so it might be a non issue.
So the West that keep lecturing the world on rights, equality, progress, civilisation, tolerance based on gay issues are discriminating but you are less bothered with that but want to come and join in lecturing us on objecting to homosexuality?

So the West is not tolerant?

Instead of facing the existing discrimination, their parliament can waste so much time to get a mere tag called marriage when they already have civil partnership and you are not condemning them?

So because a lot of people don't practice it, those that do can be thrown in jail?
Foreign AffairsRe: The UK Legalises Same-Sex Marriage by Sagamite(m): 4:40pm On Feb 08, 2013
kmcutez: Was sodomy not a criminal offense in the west?
Yes, it was.
Foreign AffairsRe: The UK Legalises Same-Sex Marriage by Sagamite(m): 4:33pm On Feb 08, 2013
kmcutez: Nudism is victimless as only one consent is needed, which is the person going nude, we have societies that practice that.

incest is victimless so far as both adults are okay with it, but you are on your own o!!

Necrophilia is not because the other party is dead and did not give you consent to violate her corpse.
Let me ignore the third one for now.

So if the other 2 are victimless, how come our "progressive" West throw people in jail for it?

Can I add one more?

Pleeeeeeease?

Is polygamy not also victimless?

How come the "open-minded" masters in the West ban it?
Foreign AffairsRe: The UK Legalises Same-Sex Marriage by Sagamite(m): 4:16pm On Feb 08, 2013
kmcutez: Paedophilic crimes are not victimless, so they cannot be granted any rights. In a way they can claim what they feel is natural to them, but there is always a victim in this case so it is a criminal offense.

Homosexuality is victimless, both adults consent to intimacy so there is no victim in this case, hence why they feel they have a case to fight for their rights.
And is nudis.m, in.cest, necrophilia not victimless?
Foreign AffairsRe: The UK Legalises Same-Sex Marriage by Sagamite(m): 4:15pm On Feb 08, 2013
jovi: My big concern here is what next?..Isn't it possible that paedophiles can one day claim that what they feel is also natural and thus we deny them their rights by locking them up...Where do we go from here?
God save us..
The have already started that in Denmark. They want to end the prejudice and discrimination against them, a minority. grin grin grin grin grin

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t822834/
Foreign AffairsRe: The UK Legalises Same-Sex Marriage by Sagamite(m): 2:12pm On Feb 08, 2013
Logicboy03: You were answered long time ago. I know your agbero style of argument.
You are a person!

How does God saying "love thy neighbour" equate to accepting what people do?

You are running like a pussi again from a question, do you want me to call your man, wiegraf, to come on this thread, maybe that will boast your confidence or you are okay with nep2ra?
Foreign AffairsRe: The UK Legalises Same-Sex Marriage by Sagamite(m): 1:49pm On Feb 08, 2013
Logicboy03: I'm actually a small straight guy unlike the fat b@st@rd called Sagamite.


But I see that you have problems...mental ones...
person, I hope you realise this is no the Religion section where you and wiegraf can run to the moderators to be "saved by the bell"?

This is politics section, they will allow you to be intellectually slaughtered and your corpse dragged on the streets if you lack logic. grin grin grin grin grin grin

No Jesoul or maclatunji to save you from Sagamite here o. cheesy
Foreign AffairsRe: The UK Legalises Same-Sex Marriage by Sagamite(m): 1:35pm On Feb 08, 2013
Logicboy03: huh

They accept/respect your privacy to do your heterosexual deeds, dont they?

Show them the same respect.
What I asked you was:

How does God saying "love thy neighbour" equate to accepting what people do?
Foreign AffairsRe: The UK Legalises Same-Sex Marriage by Sagamite(m): 1:06pm On Feb 08, 2013
texazzpete: In Nigeria, it is legal for an 80 year old man to forcibly marry and copulate with a 12 year old girl. CAN, Nigerian Christians sit idly by and say nothing. Senators say nothing.
In Nigeria, it is legal for middle aged women to gang up and use razor blade to mutilate the genitals of a baby girl. CAN, Nigerian Christians and Senators say nothing.


However, if two consenting adults decide to do what they want behind close doors, the entire Nigerian populace rises up and starts spitting fire and brimstone.

Hypocrites. Pastors, Senators, all of you.

I will NEVER be tempted to carry out homosexual acts, but when ADULTS are being discussed, Salvation is personal and Live and let live!
Cut the crap and get your facts right.

It is not legal for an 80 year old man to marry a 12 year old. The age of consent in Nigeria is 18 or 13 in Sharia states.

And because we have cultural problems does not mean we should accept all cultural problems.
Foreign AffairsRe: The UK Legalises Same-Sex Marriage by Sagamite(m): 12:55pm On Feb 08, 2013
Logicboy03: Reetarded logic. So in a town of mostly gay people, they shouldnt accept heterosexuals?


What two consenting adults do in their privacy (S£x) is none of your concern.
How does God saying "love thy neighbour" equate to accepting what people do?
Foreign AffairsRe: The UK Legalises Same-Sex Marriage by Sagamite(m): 11:53am On Feb 08, 2013
jackbauersballs: Alas but the illusion of freedom has greatly perverted western society.

The World is being shaped into a form chosen by the hidden string pullers

And the 'freedom brigade' are just regurgitating bullshyt originally ptyalized by the reprobate elite.

Open your eyes!

Homosexuality is completely and utterly against nature in any form.

It is a cancer. It is a social disease.
They love to regurgitate the moronic platitudes they are fed, and I love to shoot them down with it.
Foreign AffairsRe: The UK Legalises Same-Sex Marriage by Sagamite(m): 11:41am On Feb 08, 2013
Why not?

I have said it several times that the minute you decriminalise it is the beginning of the loss of your battle as every inch you give them, they will ask for a mile.

That is a lesson for all those foools that are against homosexuality but yet say "Just live and let live", "It does not bother me if it is legalised", "how does it affect my life" etc.

This is the same nation that just 5 years ago fooled their people there would be no gay marriage, they will only introduce "civil partnership" (basically a duck that quacks like a duck but yet is claimed not to be a duck). The mumus fell for it. grin

They use trickery to foool their people, not logical arguments. They ask for a little, when the people get used to it, then they ask for more.

The decriminalisation of homosexuality in the UK was recommended by a committee led by John Wolfenden in 1957, and implemented in 1967.

Lord Arran, in an attempt to minimise criticisms that the legislation would lead to further public debate and visibility of issues relating to homosexual civil rights made the following qualification to this "historic" milestone: "I ask those [homosexuals] to show their thanks by comporting themselves quietly and with dignity… any form of ostentatious behaviour now or in the future or any form of public flaunting would be utterly distasteful… [And] make the sponsors of this bill regret that they had done what they had done"

Dreamer! grin

Give them an inch and you think you can block the mile? grin

Also, one thing Mr John Wolfenden forgot to reveal to let people know he might not have been completely objective in his assessment was that his son, Jeremy Wolfenden, was gay.
PoliticsRe: UK Guardian - Nigerian Army's In A Shocking State by Sagamite(m): 11:06pm On Feb 07, 2013
Chongaiman: I presume you are not too conversant with the workings of the military hence your demand for a source. Quote me as the credible source here. Were you in the military, you would also understand the need for members of the military to train in other countries.
Is this how you develop "facts" in the person Nigeria Militia?
PoliticsRe: UK Guardian - Nigerian Army's In A Shocking State by Sagamite(m): 10:58pm On Feb 07, 2013
Chongaiman: @Msauza
Even with this 'shocking state' of NA, the SADF are interested in training their troops in various NA schools. Don't forget that training is the most important factor in combat proficiency. Thus the SADF seem to be aware of something the UK Guardian seems to miss. Afua Hirsch, the stooge of the West had claimed in her report that Ghana and Mauritania would best lead the West African forces into Mali. This is laughable because the GA has no history of combat experience (except if coup plotting and peacekeeping - NOT PEACE ENFORCEMENT - could be regarded as such). Even during ECOMOG operation, they were known for 'koronje', manning of checkpoints in the rear and the likes. Now that the chips are down in Mali, the 'examplary' GA is nowhere to be found while the 'shocking' NA as usual is called upon. Fortunately, actions will always speak louder than words.
You are person!

You open your moronic mouth here to say a superior army wants to be trained by animals like you?

You are a sick cretin!
SportsRe: Sagamite's Top 30 Greatest African Footballers Of All Time by Sagamite(op):
[quote author=A-40]Aww man! This Akpasusu thinks I'm ducking from him. Hahahahaha my goatee is laughing at you


You have not asked a single question that I haven't sliced,diced and made you swallow your own vomit! Don't confuse my silence for what it aint I just got bored muchacho


Correction 2 CL wins! Hehehe later you would say someone didn't check records
Dominance in your league counts for squat in Europe!!
Lyon won 7 league titles in a row tell us how many CL Finals they made in that time?
The Champions League is so hard that since they renamed it no team has retained that title! Only a chronic ode like you would compare local champions to European champions



Arsenal are local champions! They can never be bigger "in a football" sense
Not till they conquer Europe


High-falutin grammar with nothing to back it up. Hanging with me has improved your vocab I see. "Criterium" hahahaha da phock is Criterium? Olodo Rabata! Criteria or Criterion. You learn more than just football from me gee!
The biggest clubs win the most trophies!! Why is Madrid still the biggest club in Europe?? Why is it not Barca even with their recent dominance



I said they where 'peers' look up the meaning of peers. I would love to see your O and A-Levels result in English grin grin


This is why I said big is "relative" I even used the Bill Gates vs Bernie Ecclestone (both billionaires but one is over 20times richer than the other) to prove my point it was so simple I'd expect even a caveman to understand it but alas you are not even as intelligent as one



Go home and crash! You don't have a complex bone in your body



Which of these criteria not criterium grin grin does Man City,Tottenham,Leverkussen,Schalke meet?


What is the dominance of Man City,Tottenham,Leverkussen,Schalke in their league over the last decade or two? How many league titles have they been able to winhuh
2nd,3rd,4th doesn't count please! No one wants to remember who finished 3rd in the Old English 1st division 34 years ago


Any team can attract top players if they have the mullah!! Players go to where the money is more often than not. That doesn't make them big!! Its the achievements they wind up with that makes them either remembered for success or failure


Transient things! QPR and Man City have financial muscle. They are not big clubs


So why do you tag Man City,Leverkussen,Schalke as big clubs

I have pulled your skirt up again and shot you with your own bullets if you had any honor you would quit now.



Are you saying Parma,Atalanta and Udinese are big clubs?? Bwahahahaha
We dey mention clubs you dey mention Atalanta!!
Atalanta ko Alanta ni. Bwahahahaha
No title yet to win $hit!!

Parma doesn't have a domestic league title so if we are to take your infatuation with league domination into account then they are also not a big club grin grin

Udinese a big club? No league title? No European title? Bwahahahahaha

With your own arguments I still make you look like an utter klutz!! This is too easy man


Watching you make a complete f00l out of yourself repeatedly ad infinitum is really a beautiful thing to see. So can I get an Encore?



You can't give what you don't have doofus!


Paid?? In what? Pesewas?? You idle pile of dung that doesn't even know the difference between "criterion" and "criterium"
You are a critter grin grin
Stop fronting like you got something to do with your life. Top firms indeed! Dey there dey lie for yourself


Phuck where you are from nigga phuck what you are about. Maga is translating Yoruba for me! I might not be a herbalist like you but I understand and speak fluently douche

Finally tell us why Gascoigne is/was better than Owen
Also tell us why the South American Leagues were not as competitive as their European counterparts circa 1960's-mid 80's
Failure to do so and this debate is over! If I'm going to get banned at least let me know its not for arguing with a halfwit like you[/quote]person, so you can type all this junk but run like a pussyclat for a basic question:

Which are bigger clubs between Steaua Bucuresti and Barcelona/Man U/Real Madrid.

Tell us what you think Steaua Bucuresti reputation is "relative" to Barcelona, Man U and Real Madrid.

No long ting! Simple answer.

I have not read your junk. You answer questions instead of telling stories.
SportsRe: Sagamite's Top 30 Greatest African Footballers Of All Time by Sagamite(op): 12:52pm On Feb 07, 2013
wonlasewonimi: ^^dude this is 2013, you really need to get something worthwhile doing.
Like you?
TravelRe: Is Living Abroad Worth It? by Sagamite(m): 10:39am On Feb 07, 2013
Sagamite: Honey sugarpie,

I think you are a bit right and a bit wrong.

You are right that less than 10% of Nigerians earn much over 25K. As less than 10% have professional jobs.

But you are wrong, honeybunch, if you are talking about the Nigerians working in professional roles still being around that figure.

The top paying professions are High Finance, Law and Consulting in that order. Very few Nigerians are employed in the core of this roles i.e. I am not referring to the likes of Ops guys in IB or HR girls in Law etc.

Guys in this profession after 8 years would be earning above or close to six figures when bonuses are factored in. But the number of Nigerians in the core of these roles i.e. Front office, Top 20 (US and UK originated) law firm solicitors or Tier 1 and 2 consultancy with 8 years experience would not be more than 200 IMO.

Then if you now look at th other areas where Naija plenty:

IT: Contractors make a killer, over 70K and some as much as 130K (note: no benefits like pension and healthcare). Although rates have been cut recently, I would expect contractors to make in the region of 60K - 80K. Non-contractors (permanent staff) would be in the 40s and 50s.

Engineers: with 8 years would also be in the mid to upper 40s.

Civil Servants: spread across the 30s on average.

Non-IB finance (Retail banks, Insurance firms): can be earning up to 65K

Accounting (certified and/or Big 4): in the upper 40s (mid to upper 50s for Big 4 trained)

Others: in early or mid 30s.

So I think the professional Nigerians are earning well over 25K, baby. More like mid 30s on average if you factor in all (not just those with 8 years experience)
I just found information that is well aligned to my surmisal on Naija people's salaries.

Data shows, of the 30.5m people working in the UK:

- 0.1% earn £500K+ per year.
- 0.6% earn £200K+ per year.
- 1.1% earn £150K+ per year.
- 2.2% earn £100K+ per year.
- 8.9% earn £50K+ per year.
- 27.5% earn £30K+ per year.

As black people are not on per career-wise, less than 27.5% of them can earn more £30K a year. Hence average wage in these race group will be well below this. Maybe about £18-20K.

This also works for the top earners/professionals, the top 10% in the country would be making £48K+, for blacks, this top level is where their performance is even more visibly limited, so I expect them to make far less than this £48K and more likely in the 30Ks.
SportsRe: Sagamite's Top 30 Greatest African Footballers Of All Time by Sagamite(op):
As I said, I would still nail this person irrespective of whether he answers or not, I was just toying with the fool to expose wha pussyclat cretins like him are like when they come under the Sagamu fire. The same foool that was beating his chest and screaming his toughness started running like a pussyclat person when the Saga questions that ruthlessly test assertions starting rolling out of a transcendental brain.

Lets go through the genesis of his idiocy.

This fooool said Nottingham was a bigger club than Arsenal, because (1) he is one of the cretins that are so wowed by wins and records as it is more simple for a low brain to comprehend than to do a full analysis and (2) because he did not bother to check records as his brain is so limited that Arsenal has been very dominant in the English league. Sagamite is not one of his beer parlour moorons that will throw moronic conjectures that "Arsenal is shyt because they have not won anything in the last X years". He was just moronically wowed by a CL win.

The person said "You become a big club by winning and winning consistently". So when I told him that actually Arsenal was a far more successful club locally than Nottingham that just had a flash in the pan under a good manager. The foool realised his folly and decided to moronically dig his heels in by stating a moronic criteria for his analysis, i.e.:

A club is great by the CL they have won.

Now when you are at the beginning of a drowning process and you panic, you are setting yourself up for a sinking. The cretin did not realise that (1) the biggest clubs do not always win or win the most and (2) mediocre teams win, that is why people with fine brains always do detailed analysis and utilise complex criteria for complex problems. Only simpletons use simplified and moronic criterium because it is simple for their little brain.

So when I stated to him that Liverpool had won more CL than Barcelona and Man U so does that imply Liverpool is a bigger club? The drowning moooron was bamboozled and decided to shift by saying "number of CL win does not matter, only the fact you have won it once does". The person does not know this is Sagamite, you give a criteria, it would be tested. grin

So I now asked him a simple question, does that mean Steaua Bucuresti and Nottingham who have won the CL once are as big a club as Barcelona/Man U/Real Madrid?

The person is now intellectually cornered and knows if he answers, he is fcked. grin

He says yes, he is fcked because he looks like a complete mooron. His moronic assertion of "winning and winning consistently" is proof.

He says no, he is fcked because he looks like a complete mooron. His moronic assertion of "number of wins is not relevant" is proof.

So the cretin starts to run from the question. Pussyclat! grin grin grin grin grin

person, that is the outcome of moorons like you setting criteria without engaging your brain. Now take out your notepad and jot down the education of how to assess the might of a club. It is a complex issue that requires a complex metric to justify an attempt.

When you are assessing the might of a club, use a brain (which you might have to buy) to ascertain:

- What has been their performance on the continent in the last 10 years (wins are not critical, reaching semi-finals or finals is good enough).
- What is the quality of their local league and how dominant are they in it in the last 10 to 20 years.
- How many world top players have they been able to attract to play for them in the last 3 or so years.
- What is their fan following and how strong is their financial muscle.
- What is their general achievement in terms of awards and wins.

Apply that to teams and see how you come out with refined and quality results.

Then fucktards like you would not end up having to moronically say publicly that Nottingham Forest is a bigger club than Arsenal or Pro Vercelli is a bigger club than Parma, Atalanta and Udinese.

The beauty of having Saga doing analysis for you is that the criteria is not static, it is also dynamic unlike your cretinous criteria. So if Nottingham Forest starts dominating and winning CL again, they WILL look like a bigger club than many clubs using that criteria. Clubs that were only big in the 60s will remain only big in the 60s. Clubs that are big today, will be big today.

Compare that to your person criteria: "It is who has won the CL and the number of wins does not matter". Cretin!

Let me give you a postgrad education. If you are comparing 2 clubs and they are drawing or it is tight, then extend the years e.g.

- What has been their performance on the continent in the last 20 to 30 years.
- What is the quality of their local league and how dominant are they in it in their history.
- How many world top players have they been able to attract to play for them in the last 10 or so years.
- How many awards and wins do they have.

Take this as a slaughtering and free education from Sagamite. .......Your wonderful GOD!

You will NEVER, EVER be able to step to Saga Saga when it comes to analysis or anything involving using the brain! I get PAID for using my brain for high-level analysis (that are above your head) for the top firms in the world, foooool!

Abi o ri e o pe? (Is your head not correct?)

Murrafcker, DO YOU KNOW WHO AYAM?

Do you know who my father is?

Do you know who my grandfather is?

Do you know who my babalawo is?

Abi won shepe fun e ni? (Dem curse you?)

Do you think it is beans to come from Sagamu and have the Sagamu blood flow in your veins?

Mooron!
CelebritiesRe: Majek Fashek Chained In His Home Over Deteriorating Mental Health by Sagamite(m): 12:14am On Feb 06, 2013
TheRealMrStan: This is a very very sad situation... sad

http://mrstanleynwabia..com/2013/02/majekfashek-drowning-rain-maker.html
"Here I am seriously wishing that those with the resources would get off their high horses and give this rain maker a bit of sunshine."

And this idiot decides to insult others for not expending their sweat on a fool that inflicted ill-fortune on himself. What a shame the internet provides a platform for every idiot to view their moronic opinions. Shut up, Stanley!

Nezan: Instead of lamenting his condition and chaining him, methink his fellow musicians should come together and find a way of rehabilitating him rather than making fun of his unfortunate situation.
Why don't you call a family meeting and all of you sell your family silver and go and help him yourself instead of lamenting others help him?
CelebritiesRe: Majek Fashek Chained In His Home Over Deteriorating Mental Health by Sagamite(m): 11:58pm On Feb 05, 2013
Good riddance!


sushieater: you see, that's exactly why i avoided the COKE game and went with sprite instead
grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
CelebritiesRe: Tiwa Savage & Tee Billz Are Engaged by Sagamite(m): 11:52pm On Feb 05, 2013
[quote author=fresh_dude]Saga we must treaty this fcck up accordinly. I tell you I almost lost appetite. Kai.[/quote]Shyt spoilt my evening, mehn!

If I hear Toolz is engaged too anytime in the next few months, na emergency ward una go hear I dey.

Now I wish I had taken up my rap career, I for don meet this babe before this ediot!

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