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freecocoa:
R eally? So why is it a big deal that he cared for her monetary and otherwise? Was it not a gift he offered?

I am not really arguing it is something to be paid for, I am trying to tell you how it's wrong to want to put a price on the woman.

I am a woman and proud, you on the other hand is acting like there's something wrong with that.

If it's not equal rights, why then are you against women fighting to have that?

Yes, it is a gift. I never said it should be reclaimed.

I am also not putting a price on a woman. You are the one trying to by claiming domestics are worth the same as the bread being brought home by the breadwinner or emotional support have to be paid for.

I am not saying anything is wrong being a women, I am just telling you what majority of women are like: Selfish!

I am aware of it and am comfortable dealing with it.

I am not a mugu and never bury my head in the sand. I ensure I too maintain my best interest, unlike mugu "real men" that think it is their duty to maintain a women's best interest at the detriment of their own interest.

Those are the kinds of fuuktards that normally end up murdering their wives/girlfriends if she burns them. Because they have invested too much at their detriment and get annoyed she just discarded it. I just smile because I always know what I am dealing with when it comes to females (selfish and responsibility-phobic sapiens with a sense of entitlement) and prepare myself because my love has exploited the 2-for-1 offers at Specsavers. It aint fcking blind.

I am against feminism because it is not fighting for equal rights, it is fighting for women getting an advantage.

Take for example, Wimbledon Tennis.

How can women do less work, attract less revenue but still argue that they should be paid the same as men because paying men (that do more work and attract more revenue) more money is "sexist"?

That is the handiwork of feminism for you? Women should get an advantage.

Some ediots are doing less work but want equal pay?

freecocoa:
Worth more in what sense actually?

If that's the case, why not pay for all those services? Why marry? Saves you the trouble, doesn't it?

Feminism is the best thing to happen to women.

Worth more in financial terms.

I don't know why men are dumb enough to still continue marrying.

This guy said it all:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zN7tF8W1B2E

freecocoa:
Yes na, it's not just the domestic chores, how do you estimate emotional support? The times he's needed her advice, her intelligence etc nko? Do you put a price on that?

Seems you are not getting the point, ok let's take it one at a time. You agreed that men had(even still have) MOST of the rights, is that equal rights?

Emotional support?

Where do you buy and pay for that?

Amazon?

Abi na Ebay?

If anyone needs to be paid for emotional support, it is the man. Women need and collect it more than men.

People don't pay for emotional support or love. It is free.

It is ridiculous to argue it is something to be paid for. No one goes to ask for it. If it is offered, it is free commodity. It is even less reclaimable than charitable donations.

If I have a car accident and someone comes to help and support me, I don't have to pay for it.

You sure argue like woman.

No, it is not equal rights. Next question.

freecocoa:
They are not in the same business, so you can't compare them both like that.

And yea, the wife at home will be more valuable to someone who needs her kind of service.

Feminism is not the problem my love and you know it.

So because a mechanic is not in the same business as a CEO of Amazon, I can't compare and say which one is worth more?

There is no service a woman at home can provide that a man can not buy ....................... at a cheaper price.

Feminism is a disgrace that should be attacked.

freecocoa:
Under the the logic that, her contributions are priceless.

No, you can't decide that because the value of your car can be estimated.

I comprehend na.

If men weren't much more favoured, it would be a different story, the rights the men have, overshadows whatever disadvantage they face, which can't be said for the women, that's why the need for speaking up arose.

The value of my car can be estimated but the value of her domestics cannot?

So you think it is justified to ignore the disadvantages of men but cater for all women's disadvantages and then say it is equal rights?

Kai!

When I say most women are selfish to the bone, some people would say saying such facts is mysOghenestic.

Women are a selfish breed. You are a true woman!

"Me! Me! Me! Me!" "What I want" "He should have done this for me"

freecocoa:
I won't argue about it, I wholeheartedly agree, the point is that, while you argue that the man should get all the glory for bringing more money, the woman will also argue that her input is worth the same, if not more.

Let me tell you categorically: Her contribution is INFERIOR and worth LESS.

I say that without any ounce of ambiguity if all her input are domestics.

Are you telling me a housewife sitting at home's contribution is the same or more than the CEO of Shell?

Cut that feminist crap.

freecocoa:
The cost varies, there's no fixed price for that.

She can decide hers costs a million naira per month.

Under what logic can she decide that?

The same logic I can decide my car is worth $20m and tell the courts to instruct someone that hit me to pay that?

What do you think the Judge would tell me if I take such argument to him?

freecocoa:
You agree that men had most of the rights, yet say feminism is wrong? That means you believe it's okay for men to have those rights?

You still don't comprehend it?

Feminism is for women's rights and aims to suppress men.

I said that was senseless and moronic.

EQUAL RIGHTS is what it should be!

freecocoa:
No, I'm not assuming that, but many women these days make a lot nearer to what men make, some even make more than the men.

For all you know, the woman may have made more contribution, I believe it depends on the couple, it's not the same for every marriage.

Which women?

Iya Apena and Iya Comfort?

You think your Lagos City corporate world is representative of Nigeria?

Let me remind you.

Nigeria has a population of 160m+.

Lagos is 21m.

Only 4m of this Lagos population are middle-class (i.e. making over $6000 per year).

So you can conveniently say more than 110m+ fall out of the bracket you are thinking of.

The men are normally the main breadwinner amongst the population.

TIA - This is Africa.

freecocoa:
What is rare? Okay if that's the case? How about all the chores she did?

How much does a househelp cost every month?

Then that is the value of her chores.

freecocoa:
Okay, my bad. Men had most of the rights.

Ofcourse they do but women face much more than they do, hence feminism.

But if men feel otherwise, they can bring their complains or start a movement.

That is why feminism is wrong.

It is promoted by fuuktards. Their plan is to suppress men's rights.

If men decide to start their own movement, do you know what you will get? ................The suppression of women's rights.

Because it too would also most likely be hijacked and run by fuuktards.

Trust me, you don't want that. You wouldn't be smiling if men decide to retaliate.

People should understand what equal rights mean.

freecocoa:
What planet are you from? What if they built the house together, like all her stay with him, she didn't spend a dime of hers on electricity bills and food?

Dude please! Wtf?

Are you assuming that most women in Africa make as much money as men do?

If the odd situation where they built the house together, did they make equal or anything close to equal contributions?

Not even women in the West can dare make such claims, talk less of women in Africa.

freecocoa:
Don't you get it? Men had all the rights, how then can you fight to get something you already have?

Men did not have all the rights.

They had most of the rights.

Are you telling me men face no disadvantages?

freecocoa:
I'm not saying men don't have rights, but feminism arose because men were and are still being treated better than women, ofcourse there's been a great deal of improvement but there's still room for more change, that doesn't mean feminism, doesn't support egalitarianism my dear.

I am telling you that feminism is crap because of its focus on "women's rights", while claiming "equal rights".

It is a sexist embodiment.

Joromi1:
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Guessed I've helped move your dead ass thread to the second page.....u may thank me later, bastard. I also noticed u brought in ur other handles to take sides with you. That shows how delusional u are - chatting with urself. I'd have continued but ur such an incalculably offensive idiot, so arguing with u is useless. So i'll leave u here with ur stupidity. Quote me elsewhere if u need my grace. Leach-covered blob of quivering slime!

Can you see why education system keep generating fuuktards like you as graduates when you have zero reasoning capacity?

https://www.nairaland.com/2507611/ex-frsc-boss-buys-off-govts#36682922

The money budgeted to educate your moronic arsse is being looted and wasted.

freecocoa:
So you think but we know better.

It is crap!

What about men's rights?

freecocoa:
If you sense a conditionally, it is because the woman in this case, is the "victim".

Remember feminism is about women's right.

That is why it is crap!

Joromi1:
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Guessed I've helped move your dead ass thread to the second page.....u may thank me later, bastard. I also noticed u brought in ur other handles to take sides with you. That shows how delusional u are - chatting with urself. I'd have continued but ur such an incalculably offensive idiot, so arguing with u is useless. So i'll leave u here with ur stupidity. Quote me elsewhere if u need my grace. Leach-covered blob of quivering slime!

You are a cretinous fuuktard!

Can you see how dumb you are now?

Moronic product of a failed education system, you think you can come online and vomit your idiocy as contribution to debates?

freecocoa:
How can you compare those things with staying in a marriage for years or months? Do you hold the bread for years before deciding to return it?

Remember the significance of the bride price, so how can the woman pay for asking for a divorce?

The main issue is the bride price itself, it is simply 'misogynic' in nature.

No be me compare them o.

I was just using zeb04's kind of examples o.

At least I am aware you get the point. Although I am not surprised you attempted to create a conditionality favourable to women to direct a female-favourable outcome to protect what you percieved as women's best interest.

I always expect that in any debate with most women about equal rights, so I am not pissed.

Joromi1:
Stop feeling like you're all-knowing or more important than a flea-infested mountain he-goat. Your insults makes u no different from a roadside, danfo-chasing tout. Your life is cursed! Disastrous test tube experiment.

You are a cretinous fuuktard!

Where were you taught that "It is a tradition that cannot be erased by civilisation"?

And it is my life that is cursed?

Another moronic product of Nigeria's failed education system is telling me my life is cursed?

Unemployable graduate?

Reasoning and Thinking 0%?

Skelewu expert?

Joromi1:
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Almost 99 percent of all the posts u've made on NL are dumb. They reek of frustration and bad upbringing. I don't find ur opinion reasonable.....ur an abominable boorish simpleton

You are a cretinous fuuktard!

That is the defense of your idiocy?

You have realised how dumb you are?

Joromi1:
You can even get lesser than 2k. It's an old tradition that may not be erased by civilization. It's a symbol that wives don't come free of charge. The main koko is the list the clan would hand u. That is negotiable.

You are a cretinous fuuktard.

It is a tradition that cannot be erased by civilisation?

Why?

Because you pulled that moronic argument from your arsse?

AtheistD:
2k for bride price? Where?

Also, why bother with a bride price in the first place? It indicates that women are commodities. If I have to pay to marry a woman then how can that same lady be viewed as an equal and not a commodity?

The cretinous product of a failed education system cannot even comprehend the crust of the argument and how the judges argument failed in logic.

He is way too daft.

freecocoa:
He is the one who doesn't want the marriage anymore.

And the bride price is almost like he bought the woman, so you can't return something you tire of using.

So he buys her and when he does not want what he bought anymore he has to pay for stopping to use her?

So if I buy a bread and I find mold after eating half of it, I have to pay the supermarket for returning it because it has mold?

If I buy a PS3 and then decide I want to go and buy a PS4, I have to pay GAME for not wanting the PS3 again?

Now, one more question, what if she is the one that wants to divorce? He still has to pay her?

That last question is based on me noting you missed the point of why the court case was brought. It is the women that want to leave the marriage, but because they normally cannot return the bride price, they get stuck.

But based on your typical of females, bias, selfish arguments, you just argued that the person who wants to leave the marriage must be the one paying. It is an illogical argument, but I love you made it inadvertently.

So you are saying the women have to pay to get a divorce?

Joromi1:
You're still not making sense. Is cussing your life what you call a debate. And you have overused "cretinous" ....try a new word. You sound like an IDIOT!

You are a cretinous fuuktard!

Name the schools that produced you.

How did you become this daft?

Joromi1:
What re u even saying?
It's God's design and it's not just common to Africa. Naturally, men are supposed to care for women. Even in the family, daughters get special attention from parents...it's all natural.
If there's no bride price men would hump on any woman they see on the road like animals, marry them and dump them the next day. And how much is bride price anyway, that ur making so much fuss about?

This is the nonsense your cretinous arsse wrote?

Name the moronic schools that produced you.

Joromi1:
Seriously, I don't know why you're wailing unnecessarily. There was a constitutional adjustment on marriage in Uganda and you're here crying like a kid who lost his peppermint. I don't really understand your grievance....is it that the amendment favours the women or what? Don't u have value for them?
Even here in Nigeria, how much is bride price? No tribe or community charge above 2k, go figure. I'd have reasoned with you if u were talking about marriage rites, where a man is given a long list of items to buy because he wants to marry

You are a cretinous fuuktard!

Of course you are too thick to read and comprehend any kind of intellectual discourse.

So you wrote all that moronic rubbish about what God designed?

Is that the argument your dumb arsse was thought in school to present in a debate and what laws should be based on?

TV01:
Sa, Sa, Sa, Sagamite, omo Sagamu fun ara re! How far now? Not to derail, but its been a while. Good to see you hale and hearty and regulating without a care.

Pliss sa, now that your role model George Clooney has tied the knot, will you be reviewing your position vis-a-viz marriage?


TV

Bruv, I dey o.

George Clooney is a sell-out.

I was so shocked at his marriage, I was admitted into hospital.

It was at the hospital that the doctors diagnose that I have gametophobia.

So, No, I am not reviewing my position.

Joromi1:
Child of hate! How many more mentions will I get from you? It's obvious that you're pained. The bride price ur wailing about is even a small pocket change and is refundable. So why are you crying? But no wahala. You may give out ur sisters free of charge, na u sabi

You are a cretinous fuuktard!

Can you see what Nigerian failed schools have done to you?

freecocoa:
While I think the bride price should be scrapped, I must say that it's totally unreasonable to ask for a refund after the woman's lived with you for years, doesn't make any sense whatsover.

What will you return to the woman before she leaves?

At least you are right with your logic about scrapping the bride price. But in regards to your question, why will you have to return anything to the woman? Are you assuming she paid groom price?

zeb04:
let's say you by a loaf of bread(since I can see peeps referring to women as commodity) and you eat the top. maybe you have eaten 10slices already but when you get to the renaming 3slices you notice it has mold.

do you return it and ask for refund?
or

at best you just return it.


if you want to argue/discuss intelligently, you dont start to curse. it weakens the purpose of the thread.

By asking this question, one can easily tell that you obviously live in Nigeria or some other third world country.

"Darling", if you live in a sane and advanced environment (not a shithole like Nigeria), not only will you return that bread, you will get an apology and a replacement (maybe even with a refund, hence the new bread is for free).

Pray Tesco, Sainbury's, Asda, Walmart, Morrissons, Carrefour, Aldi etc one day open a branch in Nigeria so you can experience quality customer service in your lifetime and stop being held at gunpoint by Omo-onibread illiterates.

By the way, the Ugandan courts just doublespeaked by making it clear Ugandan women are a commodity to be bought. What was just highlighted was that they are just a non-refundable commodity product.

Juliuxxxxx:
cool.


https://instagram.com/p/6AmXNDlBqA/?taken-by=mi_abaga

You are a real jobless human being!

Joromi1:
I don't take atheists' views seriously. U don't know God, so how the hell do I explain the preciousness of women to you?

Moronic fuuktard, so you know God?