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You die with am oh...2ven your husband no go gree Bleep you

Better late than never, at least now we can hope for them to formulate policies after 18months and who knows,we might experience a positive CHANGE,

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Stalker365:
Nobody likes me

. Maybe because of your moniker

Abeg who know when jamb form for the next academic session dey come out?

PrinxArthur1:
. 1 Timothy 2:9-10 ESV / 61 helpful votes
Likewise also that women should adorn themselves in respectable apparel, with modesty and self-control, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly attire, but with what is proper for women who profess godliness—with good works.

. The question of whether a Christian woman
can wear jewellery or make-up arises from
two scriptures – one written by Paul, the
other by Peter. They are 1 Timothy 2:9-10 and
1 Peter 3:3-5.
1 Timothy 2:9-10: “In like manner also, that
women adorn themselves in modest apparel,
with shame facedness and sobriety; not with
braided hair, or gold, or pearls or costly array;
but which becometh women professing
godliness with good works.”
1 Peter 3:3-5: “Whose adorning let it not be
that outward adorning of plaiting of the hair,
and of wearing of gold, or of putting on
apparel; but let it be the hidden man of the
heart, in that which is not corruptible, even
the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit,
which is in the sight of God of great price. For
after this manner in the old time the holy
women also, who trusted in God, adorned
themselves, being in subjection to their own
husbands.”
Since the two passages were written by two
different authors to two different audiences,
we need to examine them separately. Though
it’s obvious make-up was not even mentioned
in either of the two passages. One then
wonders how it became an issue. That can
only be attributed to cultural parochialism.
1 Timothy 2 is ACTUALLY about prayer, not
fashion concerns. The chapter starts with
admonition on prayer – “The first thing I want
you to do is pray.” And it continues with
admonition on prayer. As at the time Paul
wrote that letter, Christianity had not become
a global phenomenon, and the principal
message of salvation was not well known –
that Jesus gave his life to purchase freedom
from sin for everyone. “Eventually the news
was going to get out,” Paul wrote. In fact, he
says he was specially appointed to get the
message to the rest of the world. That’s
because God wants EVERYONE saved. (1
Timothy 2:6) But to get the job done will
require prayer. “Since prayer is at the bottom
of all this, what I want mostly is for men to
pray…” (1 Timothy 2:8-10 MSG)
But there was one problem hindering PRAYER
effectiveness in the church at Ephesus and
that was PRIDE. The men were prideful. They
had serious anger management issues. They
were temperamental. And the women were
vain. That is why Paul wrote as follows: “Since
prayer is at the bottom of all this, what I want
is for men to pray – not shaking angry fists at
enemies but raising holy hands to God. And I
want women to get in there with the men IN
HUMILITY before God, not pimping before a
mirror or chasing latest fashions but doing
something beautiful for God and becoming
beautiful doing it.” (1 Timothy 2:8-10 MSG) So
the issue wasn’t fashion or jewellery AT ALL! It
was pride – prideful anger, prideful vanity. It’s
amazing how we can ignore the main subject
of an epistle to focus on pedantry. All Paul
was doing was telling the women to set their
priorities straight, telling them not to chase
fashion trends, but to do something beautiful
for God. That’s what the passage is about.
Text without context creates red herrings.
Always read the context of Bible passages.
Scriptures are not textual orphans. Paul wrote
a letter. You can’t just pick a phrase in a letter
and quote it out of context. You won’t like
someone taking a phrase in your letter out of
context. Don’t do it to Paul.
—–
Let’s look at the second passage, the one
written by Peter – 1 Peter 3:3-5.
Again, this passage is about Christian duties,
not fashion. 1 Peter 3:1 begins with this
phrase: “Likewise, ye wives…” That already
tells us to go back to see what gave rise to
that statement. Nobody begins a statement
with “Likewise…” “Likewise” suggests that
something had been said before. And so we
need to back off into the preceding chapter, 1
Peter 2 to see what had been said before. The
thought stream actually began in 1 Peter 2:18.
From that verse Peter begins to teach about
duties and responsibilities for various classes
of Christians. He talks to Christian slaves first.
(Historic relativism comes into play here.
Modern history abhors slavery but slavery
was an economic system of the 1 century).
Peter told the Christian slaves to be good
servants to their masters, be they good or
bad masters. Then, he continues his discourse
in Chapter 3, telling wives they also ought to
be good wives to their husbands. Some of the
Christian women were married to blokes who
didn’t like going to church and didn’t care
much about God’s word. Peter tells these
women the way to woo their husbands to
Christ is through “holy beauty.”
Let’s look at the entire passage: “The same
goes for you wives: Be good wives to your
husbands, responsive to their needs. There
are husbands who, indifferent as they are to
any words about God, will be captivated by
your holy beauty. What matters is not your
outer appearance – the styling of your hair,
the jewellery you wear, the cut of your clothes
– but your inner disposition. Cultivate inner
beauty, the gentle, gracious kind that God
delights in. The holy women of old were
beautiful before God that way, and were
good, loyal wives to their husbands. Sarah, for
instance taking care of Abraham, would
address him as, “My dear husband.” (1 Peter
3:1-6)
And then he goes on to talk to the men about
how to be good husbands. So the thrust of his
writing was RESPONSIBILITY – how to be a
good Christian: a good Christian slave, a good
Christian wife, a good Christian husband. The
focus of this passage is NOT make-up or
jewellery. Make-up is not even mentioned!
If at all, Peter acknowledged the Christian
women wore stylish hair, had fine jewellery
and a fantastic sense of fashion; which is why
he told them that in this business of winning
an unbelieving husband to Christ, designer
clothes are not the evangelism materials. It’s
“inner beauty” – character, loyalty, respect
and goodness. The Christian women
obviously had beautiful clothes, fine jewellery
and nice hairstyles. Or Peter wouldn’t have
specified those items: “What matters is not
your outer appearance – the styling of your
hair, the jewellery you wear, the cut of your
clothes…” The women had all these!
So how did we arrive at the fact that
Christianity bans jewellery and make-up? It’s
from our ideological disposition to the word
of God, as well as our penchant for taking
scriptures out of context.
You might also add quaint wrestling with the
17 century English called the King James
Bible. This is how the King James renders the
passage: “Whose adorning let it not be that
outward adorning of plaiting of hair, and of
wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel…”
And now you can see the source of the
trouble. One of the rules of interpretation of
scriptures is the rule of absurdity. For
example when Jesus says if your right hand
offends you, cut it off, the rule of absurdity
lets us know he wasn’t trying to create
righteous amputees. That it was a figure of
speech. So let’s apply the rule of absurdity to
this passage. If we insist that this passage
bans braids and jewellery, then we must also
insist that the passage bans the wearing of
clothes too! After all, the King James
rendering talks about “the adorning of plaiting
of hair, and of wearing of gold…OR PUTTING
ON OF APPRAEL.” We can’t pick plaiting of hair
and wearing of gold, and ignore adorning of
apparel. It’s always good to read a modern
translation of the Bible to AT LEAST get a
sense of what a passage is saying. What the
passage is simply saying is, don’t let these
things determine your beauty. Let character
do. This passage CANNOT in anyway be used
as the basis for the proscription of jewellery
or braids. That’s scriptural malpractice.
Of course there are ridiculous arguments
against the use of jewellery by Christians.
Spurious arguments like, “Because heaven is
paved with gold I will not wear tar,” can make
one wonder about faculty. Didn’t these
people spend currencies denominated by the
gold standard? Why didn’t they refuse to
spend monetary tar! Gold to God is nothing
but an item on the Periodic Table, a mere
chemical equation. Then there is the
argument Christians shouldn’t wear jewellery
and gold because the Israelites donated gold
towards the making of the golden calf idol at
Mount Sinai. Only they forgot to mention they
also gave gold towards the building of the
sanctuary for God to dwell in. And that God
specifically asked for offering of gold, silver
and bronze. (Exodus 25:1- It gets so
ridiculous some insist anytime gold is
mentioned in scriptures, there’s always a
problem! At which one needs to ask what the
problem with Solomon’s temple was. If at all
God descended mightily at the consecration
of the temple. (1 Kings 8:11)
Then there are admonitions against make-up
based on the fact that Jezebel “painted her
eyelids and fixed her hair,” and so no child of
God should “paint her eyes”. But that passage
(2 Kings 9:30) also says that Jezebel looked
out of the window. Should we then stop
looking out of windows because Jezebel did
so? If Jezebel wore perfume, which she most
likely did, should all Christians stop wearing
perfume? All these are ideological positions
looking for justification from scriptures and
they’re untenable.
Truth is, God never banned jewellery and
makeup for Christian women. Our legalistic
religiosity banned them. And to be honest,
these are not even issues for the 21 century
Church. There are more important stuff to
contemplate than suppositious pedantic
regulatory inanition. Please get out of religiousity and be a christian.

PrinxArthur1:
am tryna b realistic, the bible says Jesus today yesterday and forever,no matter anything ur pastor is telling u my bible tells me all the time heaven have guidelines

. the biggest problem we christian folks have is the religiousity we can't shake off because of ignorance, really,please answer me. 1. You mean to tell me that a God who walks on Gold will send you to hell for jewelry?
2. A God whose very glory exudes elegance and beauty will condemn you for make up?
Guidelines don't and won't get you to heaven, jesus will get you to heaven.

PrinxArthur1:
THIS is true Christianity!

. Are you being sarcastic or stupid?

HIScraziness:
This picture is as old as fvck!! Tonto is now phat

. Isn't that why its called a throwback?

Kuo, aisha,ya tuwo is burning in the kitchen,ya oga is waiting in the other room,your sitting room is full and you are in belgium kuo....beat the odds woman and tell that sadistic old man you don't belong to any room and you belong to all rooms

kropotkin2:
He was booted out by Nigerians. He didnt leave on his own will

. When nigerians boot out buhari let's hope he peacefully goes to the OTHER ROOM.

Ugly girls use make up to fine na it fine girl dey use make up to ugly,issorait.

The point of departure between Christianity and other faiths is the deity of Jesus. Jesus the Christ has become a rock of offence – a stumbling block for many according to prophecy. (1 Peter 2:. That stumbling block has split families down history. Jesus himself predicted that he would split the world. “I have come to set the world on fire… Do you think I have come to bring peace on earth? No, I have come to divide people against each other! From now on families will be split apart, three in favour of me, and two against – or two in favour and three against. Father will be divided against son and son against father; mother against daughter and daughter against mother; and mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law.” (Luke 12:49-53 NLT). In other words, the personage of the Christ was going to ferment a revolution in the world and cause division. And so it happened, as Jesus predicted. It has set the world on fire as Jesus prophesied. The split in the Abrahamic faiths of Judaism, Christianity and Islam was foretold by Jesus. At the heart of the three religions is the concept of a Messiah – the anointed one. The Jewish Messiah is thought to be a human leader, physically descended from the paternal Davidic line. It’s why Matthew traced the ancestry of Jesus to David through Joseph. It’s to show Jesus is the Messiah. Islam identifies Jesus as Messiah of the Jews but rejects the concept of Messiah as Son of God. Islam believes he’s alive in heaven and will return to earth to defeat the false Messiah – Masih ad Dajjal. This false Messiah is the equivalence of the Antichrist in Christianity. And so the REAL difference between Christianity and Islam is the concept and personage of the Messiah.

The point of departure between Christianity and other faiths is the deity of Jesus. Jesus the Christ has become a rock of offence – a stumbling block for many according to prophecy. (1 Peter 2:. That stumbling block has split families down history. Jesus himself predicted that he would split the world. “I have come to set the world on fire… Do you think I have come to bring peace on earth? No, I have come to divide people against each other! From now on families will be split apart, three in favour of me, and two against – or two in favour and three against. Father will be divided against son and son against father; mother against daughter and daughter against mother; and mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law.” (Luke 12:49-53 NLT). In other words, the personage of the Christ was going to ferment a revolution in the world and cause division. And so it happened, as Jesus predicted. It has set the world on fire as Jesus prophesied. The split in the Abrahamic faiths of Judaism, Christianity and Islam was foretold by Jesus. At the heart of the three religions is the concept of a Messiah – the anointed one. The Jewish Messiah is thought to be a human leader, physically descended from the paternal Davidic line. It’s why Matthew traced the ancestry of Jesus to David through Joseph. It’s to show Jesus is the Messiah. Islam identifies Jesus as Messiah of the Jews but rejects the concept of Messiah as Son of God. Islam believes he’s alive in heaven and will return to earth to defeat the false Messiah – Masih ad Dajjal. This false Messiah is the equivalence of the Antichrist in Christianity. And so the REAL difference between Christianity and Islam is the concept and personage of the Messiah.

dragonking3:
He is what my Bible tells me:

"and David inquired of the LORD, "Shall I pursue this raiding party? Will I overtake them?" "Pursue them," he answered. "You will certainly overtake them and succeed in the rescue." 1sam 30:8

So we shall pursue them and recover it all even if it resolves to violence

. Here is what my bible tells me '......love them that persecute you.....'

dragonking3:
Since violence is the only language they understand then we will have to give it to them.

. We are not to conform to the world,ask yourself,what will jesus do if he were on earth?am sure you know the answer to that

shala01:
Until Christian pick up arm and start fighting back, this kind of nonsense will not stop. U kidnap my minor daughter, I will kill you.

. What then will make us different from them?

pocohantas:
Can you imagine?
But they banned a full grown woman for hugging.
This people are all shades of stupid.

. Obviously, not your everyday stupid I tell you,this is advanced stupid

FriendChoice:
Waiting for you to quote that Quran verse or forever take your lies somewhere.

My question is very straight forward. Quran verse I said not Hadith? Don't deviate.

Even in the Hadith He married her @9 not 6. He was engaged to her @6. And married her when she attains puberty @9.

Shameless liar.

. So getting married to a 9 year old is okay,at times I wonder when religion replaced cognitive reasoning. Did you read what you typed?,if you did,did you understand it? How gullible are you people?

Salute to all fallen heroes,the ones struggling and the standing ones

amagunnerfan:
Maybe the guy's English is bad as is the English of 90% of youths out there these days simply because the educational system of the country was ruined and battered by PDP's corruption.

At least if monies didn't find it way into the hands and pockets of PDP crooks, the Educational system won't have been so poor and there would have been FREE education which could have helped that guy's English.

Reno should shut the f already.

. What's this one saying

Makes good music,makes good babies,the guy is good

How many tons of silicon dey there

I am always let down when I read such rubbish,but that a man who didn't run a primary but needed a court order to be a REP thinks he has more electoral qualification than the president baffles me. Truth is whether we like it or not,we have him as president and till 2019 we just have to live with that

DAMN....

Okay wait,I am not understanding,so if I eat meat now God go vex for me?,I don't know why people still raise issue over things that have no impact in propagating this Gospel of Christ. For heaven sake jesus ate and dinned with sinners and even invited himself to their gathering. Why can't we just shun religion and be christians? There are more important things to discuss in propagating this gospel than whether or not I am to eat a piece of meat.....

And we are suppose to LOVE our neighbors as ourselves....igbo christian fighting yoruba christian and hausa muslim fighting yoruba muslim!!!

SAINTHUD:
25A37860

don't set yourself on fire to keep others warm