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YonkijiSappo:I believe Matt used the word 'Village Settlement'. Fall back to his post to confirm this. And the bone of contention here is whether the Urhobos are settled in the SW. Mischief makers took him up on the word 'village', leaving the settlement out. You cannot have a village outside of your territory, save parts of your people are immigrants. And even at that, they can never be allowed to exclusively live and act like they would do in their territory. Concerning the Ijaws, I can authoritatively tell you that most of them migrated to those areas, particularly areas in Lagos, namely Majidun, Ikorodu, Ajegunle (Ikorodu) and the riverine part of Mile 12, in the early 90s. I spent my formative years at the latter. However, the Ijaws co-exist with the Ilajes in Mile 12 to this day, so, laying claims over people's lands and territories makes no sense at all. |
No matter how good you beat Madrid, the Whites MUST score! That is a fact. The most interesting part of this game is that the el clasico is just two weeks away and Barca are already soaked in pressure, all the better for us ![]() As per Bayern, they will sure concede today, even if they win. The team understands this and so does Zidane. We are not going back to Spain empty handed ![]() |
newguy1:Don't get me wrong. My point exactly is that the most vocal celebrities are from a particular divide, and this is only an indication of how supports and endorsements would be done in years to come, so long the show still stands. And before you mention Bisola, why not read comments of Igbos and Yorubas via the links in the post before coming back to finally conclude on this? Your emboldened does not make sense in any way. |
Bigfrancis21, while I don't intend to quote your entire post up there, I'll be quick to point out Fratermathy's use of two words, 'village settlement'. Interestingly, it was emboldened, but you chose to quote the former rather than the latter. Let's some basics, yeah? What is a village? A village is a clustered human settlement or community, larger than a hamlet but smaller than a town, with a population ranging from a few hundred to a few thousand. Though often located in rural areas, the term urban village is also applied to certain urban neighbourhoods. Villages are normally permanent, with fixed dwellings; however, transient villages can occur. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Village What then is a settlement? In geography, statistics and archaeology, a settlement, locality or populated place is a community in which people live. A settlement can range in size from a small number of dwellings grouped together to the largest of cities with surrounding urbanized areas. Settlements may include hamlets, villages, towns and cities. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_settlement As nouns the difference between village and settlement is that village is a rural habitation of size between a hamlet and a town while settlement is the state of being settled. I honestly believe the word 'settlement' has been the reason for the back and forth all night. Unfortunately, the word 'settlement' encompasses a hamlet, a village, a town or a city. Question is, are the Urhobos living in Itokin more than a hundred? Very well, yes! The Urhobo-Isokos living in Agbowa? Of course, yes. And that of Majidun? God's Grace on Sundays records over 250 members weekly. And guess what? It is an Urhobo speaking church. |
baby124:I'd like to believe you're dumb or you're trying to act like one. He wasn't referring to 'Oko' (re-re), which means 'farm'. And yes, there are Urhobo settlements in some parts of Ondo state, particularly the Ilaje areas of Ondo state. And these settlements are called 'okos' as prefixes. And just as someone mentioned Itokin being settlements for Urhobos and Isokos, may I also submit to you that here are Urhobo settlements in Agbowa. I have been there several times and I spent some part of my childhood there. The settlement, however comprises of Urhobos and Isokos, just as that of Itokin. One of my uncles still lives there to this day. Again, there is an Urhobo-Isoko-Ijaw settlement in Majidun, where you have the popular God's Grace Church. For the Urhobo-Isokos dwelling in Itokin and Agbowa in particular, they coexist with the Yorubas perfectly, even though the area leans towards Epe, the outskirt of Ikorodu. That of Majidun is strictly for the three ethnic groups I earlier mentioned. The Ijaws, whose main means of livelyhood around the Majidun area are primarily responsible for fleeing Yorubas due to incessant battles with security forces over oil bunkering. Bigfrancis21, I believe you strongly need to let this sink. This is no land grabbing tendencies, rather places I have been to and lived for some time. Baby124, except you are not from or in Lagos, you wouldn't know the places I mentioned. Have someone investigate and come back to call me a liar. |
MetaHuman:Well, they did at some point. They have left the stage ever since. Talk about European domination, talk Real Madrid. The club is the defending champion of the Champions League as well as the Club World Cup. |
MetaHuman:European domination ké? When was the last time they dominated? They are not even the present defenders. |
Afam, I would indulge you for sure. I had no intention to, but I would. The post was in reference to you and not to whom you claim it was meant for. Is comprehension an issue now? |
Afam4eva:It is generic. I'm sure you can't. |
fratermathy:It is fascinating how they tend to make serious light issues and then make big deals out of them. There is nothing sensible about tribalistic comments, regardless of how intelligent they are painted. He won't be the first to call me a tribalist and obviously won't be the last, just as they won't stop calling you one. If mentioning minority tribes put them on cloud 9, then it is their body the fluid falls out from, not mine. If he is looking for his kinsmen, then they are there for the taking. Let them self-service as much as they want to. It is a faceless forum. A mouse can claim to be a Puma on here. Let them cross over the Niger and split the Igboid groups from the Edoid groups. Nonsense. |
Afam4eva:No need for branding. My problem with those online does not affect the larger Igbo friends I have. My grouse is that majority of those who make tribal issues out of everything is that they are too blind to see the bigger picture, and that includes you. If it is not about the Yorubas, then it must be about how Gowon deceptively split the country and how the term 'South South' means nothing. I enjoy my engagements on here and that is because I pass my message across in the best way possible towards those who believe the struggle of the South East automatically is the struggle of the South South. I have stronger convictions to believe you are far worse than I assumed since I have been ranked 'the worst of the worst' . The average, aggressive, shallow-minded secessionist from the Igbo group believes those who don't stand with them are worse than he'll. And am I shocked? Heck no! Again, put an end to your voyeuristic tendencies as it would in no way profit you. We all have our prejudice, subtle or not, but I believe you really should learn the art of decorum, particularly when it involves 'minority groups'. |
Afam4eva:It is quite unfortunate you are mod. You are really no different from the foot soldiers who jump from thread to thread spilling all sorts. And quite frankly, I have come to observe this trend of your towards the so-called minority groups. The other day, you invaded a thread the likes of me would term innocent and turned it around with bigotry, while other bigot-breathing dragons joined in the frenzy. You really should know when to limit these things. Decorum go a long way. And I honestly don't see the need why you have to drool over Igboid groups in Delta State when clearly your fellow war soldiers on here insult some part of the SE in order to demonstrate superiority. You should really learn the place of decorum. In due time, the Igboid groups outside of the South East would choose their place and by heavens, we have no issues with them. It is only natural they recognize and long for their origin, but please stop jumping on harmless threads all in a bid to grabbing more lands. Do have a wonderful evening. |
MITimothy: UEFA assigned Szymon Marciniak from Poland to oversee the quarter-final first leg between Barcelona and Juventus on Tuesday at Juventus Stadium. This will be Marciniak's sixth assignment in the Champions League this season.http://www.barcablaugranes.com/barcelona-uefa-champions-league/2017/4/10/15245264/uefa-assign-referee-champions-league-match-barcelona-juventus |
Edenoscar:The referee didn't 'walk away'. He has been demoted and a has been banned and will not be given the chance to preside over high profile games. http://metro.co.uk/2017/03/10/uefa-to-sideline-referee-deniz-aytekin-after-barcelona-win-over-paris-saint-germain-6500425/ The petition which passed 200,000 mark is enough to put anyone on their toes. As it stands, UEFA is soaked in pressure, particularly with this match. Don't be shocked if most Barcelona's pleas are turned down tonight. I am very sure this referee would not want to go the way of Aytekin. |
It's official, Neymar has been handed a three match ban in the LLS ![]() Another yellow card tonight would result in an automatic suspension, which means he would miss the return leg against the Old Lady at the Camp Nou. This is good ![]() |
Edenoscar:It can't happen again. The signed petition after the PSG scandal is enough to put UEFA on their toes. The football body is pressured as it stands and they know that they could be charged before FIFA should Barcelona be favoured or perceived to be favoured in the tournament. |
Edenoscar:All clubs cannot be as useless as Arsenal and Paris Saint Germain. |
hungryboy:You are very correct. It didn't start today. We have always been this way. Our tribalistic tendencies was fueled by the last general elections, even though it has been there all along. And about federal institutions, sadly, you are right about that and to buttress your point, it is a norm that you might not go farther in an institution wholly controlled by the government, if peradventure you are far away from 'home'. While I believe this crude norm has been trending overtime, I strongly believe it would be dangerous if we exhibit this sickening trait on a larger scale, just as the BBN is providing. As a nation, we are already sitting on a keg of gun powder, all thanks to consciousness, nepotism and cultural awareness. However, we can only manage it as much as we can. The BBN, in my opinion, remains a dangerous tool since the signs are there already. We would for sure be at the receiving end should this break through on a larger scale. |
Lol. Oniovo, I think it did, just that the next would be stronger than this. I believe the many Urhobo sons and daughter I mentioned wouldn't have thrown their weight behind Efe, and I don't believe Tony Aniretan would have gone to South Africa if one of 'us' was not involved. Comments on BellaNaija and Linda Ikeji, even as i type this, only shows that what is ahead would be more difficult and I'm that Nigerians would call for a representative of their ethnic group, and vote along that line. Most importantly, state governments would get more involved by putting up billboards for their sons and daughters, without considering the damage, just as Dickson and some people in Akwa Ibom did. We need the distractions once in a while, but BBN would do us more harm than good. |
'I do believe, separate and apart from any particular election or movement, that we are going to have to guard against a rise in a crude sort of nationalism or ethnic identity or tribalism that is built around an us and a them.' - Barack Obama, Former United States' President. Time and time again, these words have resonated with me, owing to the fact that self consciousness and cultural identity is on the rise in a multi-ethnic cultural group as ours. It is not surprising that the Nigerians of today would stop at nothing to tribalize any issue, consciously or otherwise. The reasons, I believe, are not too far fetched. In 2004 when Endemol announced that the Big Brother Africa was suspended after fire gutted the Johannesburg production house which was supposed to be the haven of the housemates of the show for the duration of the programme that year, many Africans at the time believed it would be the end of the controversial show owing to votings and cult support based on tribal/ethnic/national affiliation in a complex Africa. Endemol, at the time, promised the show would return 'shortly' which, quite frankly, never did to this day. A 'new house' production house in Johannesburg was put in place but, this time, for different housemates. And rather than a continental show, Multi-choice chose to give Nigeria her second season of the global franchise. The debut BBN was produced in 2006, with Katung Aduwak the eventual winner. M-Net and the DsTv(live), at the time aired the show which many had believed Ebuka would win until his eviction. How Tribalism berthed on the show Perhaps, I would be wrong to say it started with Gifty, the most controversial housemate in the house, who, though, was evicted based on perception of viewers that she was fake, some thought she was evicted because she was from a particular divide. And Bisola being the hottest cake at the time, was perceived to be backed strictly by the Yorubas for her dynamism. Upon the eviction of Gifty, comments from Linda Ikeji's blog revealed a whole lot about how tribalism had eaten deep into the show, though unconsciously. And Nairaland? Well, certain comments, though disturbing, revealed a whole lot on what would follow on subsequent seasons of the Big Brother franchise. Kemen: the beginning of the billboard campaign www.nairaland.com/attachments/4854730_kemenbigbrother_jpeg045ed39986aa4a9e344ca4a43108912a It was almost certain the gym owner/instructor was a strong contender for the big prize, all thanks to the giant billboard which reads 'Akwa Ibom supports 'Kemen'. And then you comments as the one below and you wonder if all is well. 04kaa:Onofiok Luke, Speaker Akwa Ibom State Assembly could not hide his disgust after 'their son' who was once celebrated had suddenly become and object of ridicule after an alleged sexual assault. While claiming 'he does not watch the show', he didn't waste time in expressing his 'shock' at the twist of events. In his words; “I have never really watched the Big Brother Nigeria, I only follow it activities on the social media.http://www.premiumtimesng.com/regional/south-south-regional/225336-akwa-ibom-speaker-declares-support-disgraced-bbnaija-housemate-kemen.html While there is nothing wrong with showing solidarity, it didn't take long for Seriake Dickson, Bayelsa state governor, to 'famz' Bisola whom she claimed is a Bayelsan, according to reports. The scenes are all becoming too familiar, I believe. www.nairaland.com/attachments/5095031_fbimg1491156507890_jpeg7e9da66554d4141cba1791edc50ccb26 Efe, the height of it all Just we thought it would be ending soonest, the winner of the immediate past BBN was not only loved by almost all lovers of the show, but also enjoyed the cult support of people from Delta state, particularly Urhobos within the entertainment industries. Perhaps, his 'based on logistics' mantra swayed them, but it seemed far from it as politicians and chieftains within Urhoboland all made it their personal mandate to deliver votes to the 'realest' housemate. Ace comedian, Atunyota Alleluya Akpobome, aka Ali Baba, Francis Agoda, aka I go die, Jephthah Bowoto, aka Akpororo, Warri billonaire, Ayiri Emami, Sapele Billionaire, Tony Aniretan, BBA winner, Karen Igho, 'warri youths' amongst many others who publicly declared their support for Efe coincidentally, all have one thing in common which I would rather leave to readers to figure out. My Prediction: In due time, ethnic groups would see that they are duly represented and votings would be done along the line. The next winner of the show might not have a slogan like Efe did, and that might not stop people from voting for their preferred housemates in due time. We are far too divided to have this creep into our consciousness and I can only pray that it doesn't get out of hand. Regardless, I see the franchise, just like the African version which had long been suspended, become an offshoot of tribalism in years to come. Perhaps, I am only an alarmist, perhaps not, the trend, I believe, is far too disturbing. |
kingdenny:I very much agree with your post. However, I'd like to believe it is not the very same official because he wouldn't have taken to threaten the leadership of the market if it was him. |
ekems2017:It doesn't work that way. If people won't cooperate with the agencies, it might be difficult for them to achieve a thing. Late Dr. Dora Akunyuli achieved a whole lot because she enjoyed the cooperation of so many people. |
How about a clamp down and a possible suit filed against the leadership of the market for aiding and abetting suspected criminals in the market? |
pablo69:Your point is so valid, but I believe you are quoting the wrong person. |
tex25:This is an example of what I'm saying! ![]() |
Ishilove:Lol! ![]() By the way, I called you several times today. I suspected the little busy weaver was doing her thing again ![]() |
afonjaheadhunt:Where in his post did he mention the SE? |
YorubaMuslims:I still don't get you. First it was 10M or 20M,now it's N25M. What is your point, really? |
AkinPhysicist:Aren't you an hypocrite? You blame 'ipobs' for derailing 'this' thread, when you happened to be the first person to do so. I get you don't reason deep enough. |
YorubaMuslims:I don't understand your question. |
GodIsBiafran: ![]() |
fratermathy:My sentiment exactly. He rode on to victory with the 'area' sentiment. It seems to work for almost every who claims area. |
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