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menxer: menxer:While I wouldn't want us to derail the topic at hand, it would be fair to explain your questions. Why did God's own people attack others without provocation? 1. It was for the lands. God had promised His people a Promised Land and even while there were inhabitants occupying the land, it was not theirs as it rightfully belongs to God. 2. For blood retribution (I'll get to this later). Facts to remember First, the Promised Land belonged to God before the Canaanites established temporary residency there. It had always been his plan to give this land to the descendants of Abraham: “In the fourth generation your descendants will come back here” (Genesis 15:16a). The Lord did not take from the Canaanites that which was “theirs”—he reclaimed that which was his according to his foreordained purposes. Second, the Canaanites lived in wicked rebellion against the will and purposes of God. The Lord had predicted that Abraham’s descendants would claim the land when “the sin of the Amorites” reached its “full measure” (Genesis 15:16b). This “full measure” of sin was attained by the Canaanites in the generation leading to the Jewish conquest. Moses warned his people about these sins they would encounter upon entering the Promised Land: “Let no one be found among you who sacrifices his son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead” (Deuteronomy 18:10-11). He stated that anyone who practices such sins is “detestable to the Lord,” and explained that “because of these detestable practices the Lord your God will drive out those nations before you” (v. 12). Those who were conquered by Joshua and his armies were not innocent victims, but wicked sinners who received the judgment their transgressions had warranted. Third, the blood retribution practiced by ancient tribal culture required the Jewish armies to destroy not only the soldiers of their enemies, but their families as well. So long as one member of a family remained, that person was bound by cultural law to attempt retribution against the enemies of his people. Such unrest and hostility would have persisted throughout the nation’s history, with no possibility of peace in the land. What appears to be genocide was actually the way wars were typically prosecuted. Fourth, in these formative early years of Israel’s history it was imperative that the people be kept from the influence of sinners without or within their nation. The holy God who gave them their land would uproot them from it if they rebelled against him (Deuteronomy 28:63-68). This warning came to pass centuries later at the hands of Assyria and then Babylon, and ultimately in the national destruction wrought by Rome in the first century of the Christian era. And so God had to bring severe judgment against Achan, lest he and his family spread the cancer of their disobedience within the nation. He ordered his people to destroy all they found within Canaanite civilization, lest it continue to tempt them to disobedience and eventual destruction. We find similar severity during the formative years of the Christian movement in God’s judgment against Ananias and Sapphira (Acts 5:1-11). And you must understand this, all these happened thousands of years ago. Christ came into the picture and showed that practices of the past should be done away with, by demonstrating what it means to be at peace all round. And even in the face of stiff persecution, he still demonstrated love by rebuking Peter who cut off a soldier's ear. I wish I could apply the equation to the Koran but it doesn't work that way. So how then do you justify 'when/if God commands you to take up arms and kill in Islam'? menxer:We are created by God, yes, but He gives us the free will to act and choose as we live. He only acts on the lives of those who allow Him to. Pastafarian:Can we not exhibit dogma, please? Thank you! |
Ishilove:Eh yah... Pẹ̀lẹ́. |
Jetleeee:I'm dead! ![]() You are officially a case. See the way you captioned Donga's video |
Ishilove:Still in traffic? |
fratermathy:I don't agree with this. This is not just about the North. You would agree with me that other Islamic countries all over the world did not emanate from the Northern part of Nigeria. Below are a few questions in provoking the truth. Please note that these questions are general and not to a specific set of Muslims. 1. Why then is there unrest and war in these places, the same places where you find these people? 2. Why do they almost act or react the same way when you talk about Muhammed in a manner they don't take lightly? 3. Why is the reaction of blasphemy towards Muhammed death? 4. Why is there incessant call for the Sharia Law where they live as immigrants after leaving their homelands desolated? 5. Why do almost all Muslims of the world believe in the 70 Virgin theory after committing suicide in the name of God? 6.Why is it that Islamic apostates are condemned to death just because they have chosen a different path? 7. Why is it that Islamic murderers would chant the name of their God before putting the knife over their victim's throat? 8. Why is it that typical Muslims brand some set of people as infidels just because they don't see the world from their viewpoint? 9. What is the rationale behind the idea of forcefully bending a people, a state, or a continent to becoming an Islamic entity when they know that the world is secular? 10. Why do almost all these folks hate the western world? 11. Ever wonder why most, if not all Muslims are intolerant? I'm talking the world over. Oniovo, the answer is not far fetched, bulk of the people cannot be wrong at the same time and this is not a product of illiteracy. It only points to one major thing here - the teachings of the Koran. And as much as majority of Muslims would say fundamentalism is the lot of the people who do the above, note that there are several teachings supporting these acts in the Koran. Like I always say, the problem, for me, is not Muslims, but Islam. A whole is wrong with it that the language is universal - kill, fight and unleash terror. There are liberal Muslims but these folks are not much to spearhead a turn around. Just recently, I was looking up the 70 virgins theory and I discovered that it is claimed to be a myth. Shockingly, the Koran, rather than promised girls, promised 'fresh, blossoming young boys'. This is an indication that a whole lot is wrong somewhere. |
menxer:Tackling your second paragraph, God cannot command His own to war with others or hack them down. God in Himself is love. Whether within His fold or not, we all enjoy His love. Therefore, it doesn't make sense when we fight for God or think we are doing His work by killing or forcefully converting for Him. It is not a question of 'when or if' as God would not command you to war with people you don't know, let alone have issues with. |
You are very correct, oniovo. My family friend in Lagos are a Muslim family, and I must confess, they are about the most wonderful ever! Simple, highly educated and liberal. Unfortunately, the number of intolerant Muslims far outweigh the liberal folks. The same applies to Christians though, albeit, subtle. While I am trying very hard to put in good words here, I cannot but emphasize that the Koran is filled with so much call for blood that most Muslims can't defend it. It is worrisome. I stumbled upon some verses of the Koran the other day and I almost confess, I felt sick almost immediately. 'Kill this, kill that... spare no this, spare no that', and then you come to wonder if indeed the goal of the religion itself is just to war with the world. Like you mentioned, most of these folks have the intent and will to kill and they only found the perfect excuse to do so in the name of religion. I have so many wonderful Muslims around me and sometimes I just wish every Muslim in the world could be like them. The world would have been more reasonable. Finally, we are humans before religion divided us. Religion can be a dangerous tool in the hands of the uneducated and misinformed folks. |
eyinjuege:*sighs* Depression (major depressive disorder or clinical depression) is a common but serious mood disorder. It causes severe symptoms that affect how you feel, think, and handle daily activities, such as sleeping, eating, or working.https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/depression/index.shtml That a number of psychiatric syndromes feature depressed mood as a main symptom does not mean that they are one and the same. You just have to understand this. Depression is activated when a person's mood drops totally. And yes, it is possible your mood doesn't change when you fail an exam. Drs will tell you its one of the most difficult psychiatric/mental disorders/illnesses to treatThe above is very wrong. You have to understand the degree of depression one has before yapping about mental disorder. And please note, depression is not difficult to treat as there are anti-depressant drugs. Besides, depression can be cured so long the origin can be traced or known. There is a whole lot of difference between mental disorder and mood. It is pointless arguing when you have not been down that road. |
greatgod2012:Don't misinform people, please. Depression is not a MENTAL SICKNESS but a mood disorder, often caused by a state of low feeling/mood. Depression is not as bad as you paint it to be. As a matter of fact, we have all experienced depression at some point in our lives. That many don't know they are depressed is because the level of depression is not so great to make such person take drastic measures. There are degree of depression. The greater they are, the more devastating the affected would act. The ultimate thought of great depressions is suicide, and not every depressed being would consider suicide. Some prefer being left alone to think and cry for some time. What reinforces depression are, but not limited to; 1. Lack of trust. 2. Inability to talk to people. 3. Being castigated when one is down. Again, depression is not a mental disorder. While there is a fine thin line between mental health and depression, I would be quick to state that they are not in any way the same. |
Keneking:This statement of yours is stupid. While many are saying Ambode is on the verge of outperforming Fashola, you're here comparing him to El-Rufai, Tambuwal, Wike and Fayose. You think it is by eating leafy rice by the road side ![]() No governor is outperforming Ambode presently. |
Max24:Your understanding of the instance you cited is clearly limited. I'll help you, regardless. What you meant to quote Luke 9:50 - 49 “Master,” said John, “we saw someone driving out demons in Your name, and we tried to stop him, because he does not accompany us.” 50“Do not stop him, Jesus replied, “for whoever is not against you is for you.”My response Matthew 7:21-22 21 Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness.’… Did Jesus not speak against the Pharisees and the Sadducees at the time? Did the Apostles not mention and expose false teachers equipping the people with false doctrines/teachings/lifestyle? I guess you would say Peter was never a true disciple of Christ since he dedicated 2 Peter talking about false teachers? Perhaps Jesus Christ was never the Saviour since he also talked about these set of people, according to you? In the eye of a religious folk, what I have done is 'attack' 'Christian Leaders'. It is not until a pastor is mentioned 'against' Christ that he is described to be false or untrue. It is quite pitiable that the 'judge not' is coming up again. This won't be the time for me to go into details of that passage. Just like the then Pharisees and Sadducees, many Pastors have taken on the form of wolves in sheep's clothing perfectly because the level of gullibility of the modern day Christian is alarming. |
Max24:This is not a religious thread between Muslims and Christians. I am a Christian and it is only natural I stay within the the purview of Christianity. |
logazain: ![]() The EFCC Should be replaced with SaharaReporters. Once they mark you, ya just dead ![]() |
JustinSlayer69:Car dealers are the only ones who know what is at stake if they don't bulge. Cars depreciate the moment they are parked on a spot faster than when it is being used. Most car dealers even go as far as accepting down payments with an agreement that you would pay back on a particular date, so long the vehicle is moved out of their premises. For the car dealers selling old stock, they won't lose much since they pretended the stock is recent, thereby giving them grounds to inflate their prices just as other traders. It is not all that difficult for them to revert. |
oaroloye:*Sighs* I really don't get your point. Ese Walter and Biodun Fatoyinbo's Scandal rocked for over a month. If you were never interested, then why ask me to have given or provided details of what went down? |
naijarates2017:It is a temporary solution that could be made permanent. We just need to earn more in Dollars than we spend and we are good to go. |
CallmeGlad:It won't be crashing anytime soon. Most of the traders around goofed by stocking their shops with goods bought when the exchange rate was around 500, owing to fear that the Naira would crash more than that. Unfortunately, they are stuck with the old, expensive goods and they won't be selling lesser than the amount they bought it for. Prices would only crash when old stocks are done away with and traders are able to buy new goods with the present exchange rate. |
Firstcitizen:I wish I could, seriously. I created the thread in a hurry and had little or no time to be comprehensive with it. The truth to most Christians today seem like you are on a mission to destroy the Church. |
MakeADifference:You're not the 5th person on the thread defending Pastors. My harsh response to you came off because you placed me in the same category with Freeze. I know it can be very hard to wander off and reason on your own as a sheep that has been programmed. You just have to try since it is free and not in any way painful. Why was this thread created? To remind Christians that they are not called to Pastors but to God. A pastor is only a man with flesh and blood and you just have to understand that. Should he fall, he must recognize that he has done so and no use his or her members to cover his shame. To your question now; 1. How many pastors are there in Nigeria? There are over a hundred thousand of them but I would tell you that more than half are not genuine or have fallen from Grace and are not in any way bothered since they have the mechanism of their members at their mercy. 2 and 3. How many pastors/scandals have you listed? Just a few. Again, it is one of the reasons I mentioned that you learn to think. The names mentioned are not limited to this. I would have gone ahead to mention more but I would be derailing the thread for certain reasons. 4. How many verses state there are fake people? You tell me. If you are a Christian, you should learn to understand that being fake does not only rest on miracles and false prophecies but also in manipulating the sheep. 5. Ever heard of the phrase "wolves in sheep clothing"? It came from the Bible This is my first time actually. I have never come across it in my life. ![]() 6. Ever heard the phrase "many are called but few are chosen"?. It came from the Bible. This too. Never heard of it before until now. ![]() 7. Ever heard "depart from me I know you not"? It is in the Bible I've been hearing this for ages, never knew it is from the Bible. Small world! Now read your questions slowly again and read through the introduction of my post. You are called to God and not a Pastor. How hard can it be to reason here? Most Christians are dogmatic, and you, my friend, fall into the class of dogmatic Christians. |
MakeADifference:Obviously, you are sick in the head ![]() What is wrong with you people? If you have been cursed to be stupid, why not just remain so rather than try to rub it on others, using the Bible to massage your folly? How many verses clearly state there are fake people, like seriously? In a bid to go on a defending spree, you have successfully answered your own questions and saved me the trouble of responding to your post. In reference to your question, I hope you now understand why no sane Christian should defend a pastor? |
cktheluckyman:How is the date right, did you not see the timeline on the hard cover? He was never an ex-SU leader but a departmental executive member who was removed for misconduct. Again the time line on the cover says 2012-2015 and it was recently signed in January. By the way, did you notice his name far contradict the scoresheet in which he reportedly failed a core course? Besides, I need to equally see his PGD project since he finished with a third class. His name was Daniel there and he now uses Dino. He is trying too hard. Two foreign institutions have already denied him. That is a pointer. |
oaroloye:You didn't hear of Pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo of COZA and a lady named Ese Walter? There was no need for me to have given graphic details of what went down since the scandal was made public. If you are interested in knowing about this in particular, just take your time to search Biodun Fatoyinbo and Ese Walters on Google. Cheers. |
Good grief! ![]() I didn't doubt SR one bit. They won't take on you if they haven't gathered their evidences just yet. Dino perhaps never returned to the school to take his failed courses, which automatically means he didn't graduate with his colleagues. Whoever assisted him with this in the school is in trouble. I guess it explains why the school has not come out as promised. Dino is gone ![]() |
rengsho:You guys should not make things worse for this man. He shared a picture of himself and 'colleagues' during their service year and you are here saying he might have been exempted from service. |
And why is the project dated 2017? Choi! ![]() We warned him, don't mess with Sahara Reporters but he didn't listen. He kept on claiming he is 'fear', now fear is being pummeled and he is holding on to every straw to stay afloat. |
BankeSmalls:My dear, why did you get this wild belief of yours from? ![]() |
Useless Governor. Wike, as uncouth as he is, stated the gospel truth and the sickly response from a government whose people are being pummeled is that Wike needs prayer. Dem don get Ortom. Benue is in trouble. |
Amarabae:Wrong, Dear. I keep saying it and I would say it for the umpteenth time, Biafra is an ideology formed by an Igbo man, for the Igbo people. I am sure you keep hearing the 'promised land' chant? Not everyone is bent on breaking away from Nigeria. A sect within the Igbos claim to be representing their people, which I have no issue with, but forcefully grabbing lands and claiming some people MUST be part of you when you describe the many entities in the country as animals in a Zoo. Urhoboland is not interested in Biafra. In due time, the FG would listen to our call for resource control, and if nothing happens at the end of the day, then we would weigh other options, but until then, let the perfect animals form the safari of their dream while they leave us in peace. |
loopman:People that are stu_pid. They want to develop Urhoboland by force. Cc Fratermathy ![]() |
topsam1:ABU is not struggling. If you had earlier read their release which made FP in the morning, a source within the school claimed ABU might not come out due to the sensitivity of the issue, and being political, it might need to sit on the fence. The third class thing is cooked up. How possible is it for someone to fail a core course in a year and still graduate in that same year? The truth will only tarnish the reputation of the school and unfortunately, they would rather embrace falsehood rather than come out openly to tell the truth which in turn could become a big disgrace to the school. |
Amarabae:He was a PDP member before prostituting to the APC. It is high time we saw beyond party lines. The PDP is no different from the APC in any way, and no matter how much you try to show one is uglier than the other, the more you advertise yourself to being a tool for crazy old men to use and eventually become an object of ridicule. Nigerian political parties are not worth it in any way. SR is surely the last media house to tussle with. They will strip Dino to nothing. These guys are the wiki leaks we never had. |
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