European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only. In Wenger We Trust! by Sauron1: 6:22pm On Nov 14, 2009 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Ferguson Hit With Fa Fine And Ban by Sauron1: 6:15pm On Nov 14, 2009 |
dayokanu: Who cares how competitive you are if you cant play CL knockout stages They wouldn't even be competitive cos the freebies Arsenal/Liverpool get from UEFA wouldn't be there. These 2 clubs make about £30 million from UEFA every season for qualifying for the UCL through TV money and other schitzos. ----------------------------------------------------------- edoyad: Man yoo started to become a global power post 99, after Cantona had left and Kenyon (mixed with fate and posh Spice) systematically handled the Becks phenomenon.
About the 4 slots allocated to England in Europe, hope you know that even France with only one CL has 3 slots ? The competitiveness of the league is the deciding factor not the reason you're stating. FIFA are the ones who use that standard in allocating slots to Continents not UEFA. You are talking outta ya ass. Fergie's managerial feats have been worth tens of millions of pounds to his rivals, raising the [b]Premier League's coefficient [/b]to permit a fourth side into the Champions League. ------------------------------------------------------------ BinghiNya: 4play nice one. I had highlighted such in the past but people didn't pay any attention. It's a myth that other clubs don't get penalties at OT. United's rivals have benefited more from dodgy penalties awarded to them especially Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea. ------------------------------------------------------------ edoyad: Dayo, do you know Bundesliga with 18 teams has 3 slots ? How do you explain that if It's not the league's competitiveness ? If we go by what you guys are saying then France would have only one slot being that they have never really won the tourney.  It is not about the number of teams that make up the league BUT about the performances of that league's representative in the UCL. Once the coefficient is high to a certain degree, that league would be given more slots. SAF was solely responsible for that achievement in the Premier League. |
Sports › Re: WCQ: Kenya vs Nigeria - (2-3) by Sauron1: 5:45pm On Nov 14, 2009 |
FBS: NFA/NFF don't have the balls to fire Amodu 'cos they have to find a reason and except they go radical, we may be stuck with Shaibu.
Under normal circumstances, one would expect the coach that got them through the qualification to take them to the WC but kai with Amodu, we will get thunked. In and OUT!
Guus Hiddink is the man for the job if russia fail to progress. NFF will be very STUPID to keep Amodu as the manager of our National Team. The only thing i can bear is to let him stay till January and gauge his performance in the Nations Cup. If he wins that competition, let him take em to South Africa but if he fails, he should be sent directly to Alagbon. |
Sports › Re: WCQ: Kenya vs Nigeria - (2-3) by Sauron1: 5:26pm On Nov 14, 2009 |
FBS: Sauron, I completely agree with you that Amodu ain't no "good" coach and I think I said this earlier. The problem is Juande Ramos gets fired faster than anything. Felipe Scolari?  LvG may be on his way out of naziMunchen! So you see, yes we need a very good coach with his mind on the job and not just to make money. Someone with Nigeria in his heart! If only we could get Jose M. He has Africa in his blood.  Question is WHO?
And more importantly, the core of our team should be home based. It's a world cup year. Many of these European managers know jobs are abound in Africa. I cannot see Amodu outfoxing Capello, Hiddink or Dunga in South Africa with his moronic tactics and technical nous. NFA/NFF need to act fast and get a manager as early as next month to start working on the team. With good preparation and the right mentality, we can at least be like Senegal in Japan/Korea 2002. Let the NFA also assess this new manager in the next Nations Cup to ascertain his competence. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Ferguson Hit With Fa Fine And Ban by Sauron1: 5:21pm On Nov 14, 2009 |
edoyad: You cannot honestly tell me that you believe SAF is primarily responsible for the Success of EPL ? There're are many more factors that go into the league's success and i'd personally even commend Kenyon above SAF any day if we Zero it down to Man yoo's success alone Fergie had won enough titles for Man Utd before Kenyon came on board. Cantona had already retired before Kenyon began to flex his muscles at OT so go and read some history books. Without SAF winning those titles and beating teams in Europe after the ban of English clubs in Europe, the EPL woulda stagnated. With Fergie came success in Europe thus forcing UEFA's hands to allow England play 4 different teams in the Champions League. What woulda been the fate of Arsenal/Liverpool if this country is only allowed to play 2 clubs in UEFA? |
Sports › Re: WCQ: Kenya vs Nigeria - (2-3) by Sauron1: 5:05pm On Nov 14, 2009 |
FBS: Youngbest, I also agree with you 100% but from the look of things, none of the TOP coaches/managers are available. Heck, we don't want another Berti Vogts! FBS, letz be honest with ourselves. Amodu lacks tactical nous to take us to the world cup. Trust me, there are many brilliant managers jobless in Europe as we speak. Juande Ramos, Felipe Scolari, Avram Grant, Louis van Gaal and a host of others will be dying to take the job from NFA. If we get the right manager, we should be OKAY. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Ferguson Hit With Fa Fine And Ban by Sauron1: 4:55pm On Nov 14, 2009 |
edoyad: FACT : Since Alex Ferguson started coaching in England - Inspite of the so called stars He's introduced to the England squad, they have not reached the Final of any major tournament and are not even a respected footballing side anymore. So of what use are the so called stars he has brought into the English game ? Blame the manager of the National team. Fergie has nurtured talents like Gary Neville, David Beckham, Wes Brown, Paul Scholes, Michael Carrick, Owen Hargreaves, Wayne Rooney, etc. All these players have won the biggest prize in club football. By natural order, they should be winning the world cup. Without Ferguson, Arsenal and Liverpool woulda run into administration. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only. In Wenger We Trust! by Sauron1: 4:53pm On Nov 14, 2009 |
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Sports › Re: WCQ: Kenya vs Nigeria - (2-3) by Sauron1: 4:47pm On Nov 14, 2009 |
dayokanu: Looks like Martins has improved since he got to the Bundesliga Nang!!!! By his standards, he had a very poor game but he was clinical in front of goal. |
Sports › Re: WCQ: Kenya vs Nigeria - (2-3) by Sauron1: 4:38pm On Nov 14, 2009 |
dayokanu: Abeg o. Make Klose no come take Yobo and Nwanerri break World cup goalscoring records
Did we really qualify or is this some form of April fool?
Even though I lost money betting that Tunisia would win I still happy. WE did, we did!!!!! Nigeria actually qualified. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Ferguson Hit With Fa Fine And Ban by Sauron1: 4:32pm On Nov 14, 2009 |
They berate and banish Sir Alex Ferguson for a stupid comment about a slightly chubby referee and cravenly ignore all the good the Manchester United manager has done, all the glory he has brought to English football, all the talent he has helped mould for the cause of St George. So who do you want influencing football? Pen-pushers or Treble-winners?
Ferguson's verdict on Alan Wiley's fitness was undoubtedly insulting and iniquitous. Referees, even those like Wiley slightly lacking sleekness, deserve respect. The alternative is mayhem in the opinion-forming playgrounds of the Premier League and subsequent anarchy in the UK schoolyards. Those brought up to bow at the altar of "the referee is always right even when he is blatantly wrong'' cannot tolerate Ferguson's stance.
The belittling of officials is a widespread modern curse that needs combating. Even Fabio Capello ambushed the referee in the tunnel in Dnepropetrovsk, raging about decisions against England, using language that would make Ferguson blush. Did the FA call Capello to account? No chance.
"As the senior statesman Fergie should be setting an example,'' reflected an England supporter. "A lot of young managers look up to him, but any other manager probably would not have been punished so harshly. The FA have got to be more consistent really. Players abuse the officials weekly.'' And escape.
The case against Ferguson lacks perspective. It is like hounding Barack Obama for double-parking outside the White House. The FA must see the bigger picture with Ferguson. This is an individual whose managerial feats have been worth tens of millions of pounds to his rivals, raising the Premier League's coefficient to permit a fourth side into the Champions League.
At the risk of straying further into Monty Python territory, what has Ferguson ever done for English football? Well, this is a leader of men who has built on David Moyes's fine work at Everton to nurture Wayne Rooney into England's one saving grace. This is the club boss who could supply more than half of England's starting XI in Ben Foster, Wes Brown, Rio Ferdinand, Michael Carrick, Owen Hargreaves and Rooney, let alone cultivating Ravel Morrison as a potential gem for 2014.
Better than Kieran Gibbs and Jack Wilshere, certainly up there with Jack Rodwell, if Morrison does emerge as the pre-eminent English footballer of his generation, it will be because of a certain Scot's shrewd guidance. I can't remember the last time the FA acknowledged Ferguson's role in shaping England's present or future.
Crassly imitating a scene from Swift, Lilliputian no-names attempt to bring down a giant of the game. The cast of pygmies includes Alan Leighton, a rep from referees' union Prospect, an unknown organisation in football until its pushy principal began piggybacking on Ferguson's fame. Apparently, Prospect represents referees. So Leighton will know that Ferguson was the first manager to inquire after Mark Halsey's health.
It is the inconsistency of individuals such as Leighton that is particularly galling. Ferguson makes a mistake and gets pilloried. Leighton's members make shocking errors, ignoring beach-balls and bad challenges, yet the Prospect chief stays silent. The FA seems to have been swayed by a union man stamping his feet and spouting off on the airwaves. Football would be better place if a wise owl such as Ferguson, for all his acerbic outbursts, was advising the FA and its hordes of amateurs on how to run the game.
In a land where many FA types just worry about guaranteeing their free tickets to Wembley every year, Ferguson plots how to take his team there again and again. Ferguson contributes so much to the game that the FA fails to note. England's most important player, Rooney, rallied to his manager's defence yesterday, detailing why Ferguson should be cherished. "First of all the trophies he's won,'' began Rooney, "and the type of football he wants you to play – attacking football all the time. Sometimes you feel you can't do it but he keeps you going. At his age [67], he still wants to win all the time. That's incredible to see.''
Ferguson should show more respect to referees – and football should show more respect to Ferguson. |
Sports › Re: WCQ: Kenya vs Nigeria - (2-3) by Sauron1: 4:20pm On Nov 14, 2009 |
benlay: i said it that cynics would celebrate more. Congrats to all Nigerians that believed that we would make it and to others, stay with your own next time That should be FBS and Sauron. I was about going on a KILLING spree then Martins goal calmed me down. |
Sports › Re: WCQ: Kenya vs Nigeria - (2-3) by Sauron1: 4:14pm On Nov 14, 2009 |
No2Atheism: na the referee make nigeria qualify . . . if i was the tunisians i would investigate the referee.
the referee did everything humanly possible to make those men score . . . I thunk i was the only one that saw that. Yakubu was miles OFFside before he got a crack shot that bounced off the post. It was so ridiculous but THEN the Tunisians have themselves ONLY to blame. All they had to do was beat Mozambique. otokx: AMODU should be left alone to finish what he has started What work has he started? Amodu is a big idiot. I wouldn't even mind Avram Grant at this stage. |
Sports › Re: WCQ: Kenya vs Nigeria - (2-3) by Sauron1: 4:12pm On Nov 14, 2009 |
FBS: hehehe . LOLLLLLLL I love this country and simply refused to give up. Hey, it's footie. The second half got my heart pumping at a dangerous 4000km/h. Even at 2-2, I knew it wasn't over!
Looks like Amodu got the message from AF. 
Damn, it will be party ALL OVER NAIJA TONIGHT! I think the boys were bitch-slapped in the dressing room. Martins n Yakubu realised this was their last chance of ever going into any world cup if they miss out on this. Yakubu + 4 years = He woulda become a grandad by then.  TB Joshua should take Nigeria to South Africa. Bleep Amodu, Bleep Amokachi. Chei. . . . . . . . .Lagos woulda ERUPTED by now. Lagos fans, abeg wetin dey HAPPEN?? |
Sports › Re: WCQ: Kenya vs Nigeria - (2-3) by Sauron1: 4:09pm On Nov 14, 2009 |
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Sports › Re: WCQ: Kenya vs Nigeria - (2-3) by Sauron1: 4:07pm On Nov 14, 2009 |
skynylaw: OUR SECOND GOAL WAS ROBING, thaz off side The referee was so BIASED it wasn't TRUE. Yakubu was 30 miles OFFSIDE and that goal shouldn't have counted AT ALL but then you WIN some, you LOSE some. Naija for SOUTH AFRICA. . . . . . .Make i go buy ticket. |
Sports › Re: WCQ: Kenya vs Nigeria - (2-3) by Sauron1: 4:05pm On Nov 14, 2009 |
FBS: A bleeding cracking nerve shredding second half performance!
Obagoal proved he still got it.
Mikel played one of his best matches (if not the best) for the SE today.
Osaze. . .did he thing and deserves to go the SA 2010.
The rest . . .well, sha, they tried. They team played "better" in the second half.
To all those who believed even when the chips were down, I say Congrats.
To those, who . . .well you know yourselves. I have nothing to say to you. 
SA 2010! Here we come. FBS. . . . . . .I got infected with your Patriotism and it worked. TB Joshua should take these boys to South Africa cos it seems even if he lines up market women against Brazil and France, Nigeria would still WIN. |
Sports › Re: WCQ: Kenya vs Nigeria - (2-3) by Sauron1: 4:00pm On Nov 14, 2009 |
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Sports › Re: WCQ: Kenya vs Nigeria - (2-3) by Sauron1: 3:48pm On Nov 14, 2009 |
OBAFEMI MARTINSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
WHAT A PLAYER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Sports › Re: WCQ: Kenya vs Nigeria - (2-3) by Sauron1: 3:47pm On Nov 14, 2009 |
buffead: goallllllllllllllllllll I told you we would go to South Africa!!! GOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL MATINSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS |
Sports › Re: WCQ: Kenya vs Nigeria - (2-3) by Sauron1: 3:30pm On Nov 14, 2009 |
GOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
YAKUBUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
2-1 |
Sports › Re: WCQ: Kenya vs Nigeria - (2-3) by Sauron1: 3:15pm On Nov 14, 2009 |
rasputinn: @ Sharon
Don't embark on any killing spree(except of course your targets will be those crooks at the NFA/NFF) ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I am so going to kill the crooks at NFA/NFF if Nigeria don't score in the next 10 mins. |
Sports › Re: WCQ: Kenya vs Nigeria - (2-3) by Sauron1: 3:07pm On Nov 14, 2009 |
FBS: Sauron, wetin AF talk?  He has been scolding Amodu since that his starting line-up is not BALANCED. SAF said Amodu should go for broke and play 4-3-3. Nsofor, Yakubu and Odewingie to lead the assault with Mikel as the anchor behind them. He said Nigeria can score 3 goals in the 2nd half if the lads buckle up and work their socks off. |
Sports › Re: WCQ: Kenya vs Nigeria - (2-3) by Sauron1: 2:56pm On Nov 14, 2009 |
Let me go and wake Sir Alex Ferguson. We need his COMEBACK magic in this game. He is the only one capable of steering this pathetic Naija side to victory this afternoon. I will go on a killing spree if we don't qualify for the world cup again. Krayola: Oya all una mountain of fire people abeg make una start to dey bind and loose and destroy. . . we need all the fire we can get in that 2nd half. This one don pass TB Joshua power  TB Joshua won't be shamed. He's on his knees now directing the FORCES that be to BIND Kenyan defenders and make em BLIND I predict a Kanu hatrick in the 2nd half. |
Sports › Re: WCQ: Kenya vs Nigeria - (2-3) by Sauron1: 2:53pm On Nov 14, 2009 |
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Sports › Re: WCQ: Kenya vs Nigeria - (2-3) by Sauron1: 2:50pm On Nov 14, 2009 |
FBS: Patriotism is contagious! 
By the way, what formation are we playing? 3-5-2  It will change to 4-2-4 in the 2nd half. debosky: Apart from Odemwingie, the rest of the Nigerian attack is useless.
PS - there's no midfield either!
Oh - Yobo almost concedes a penalty by shoving the Kenyan off the ball. Did you see that? Kenya shoulda scored the 2nd goal. |
Sports › Re: WCQ: Kenya vs Nigeria - (2-3) by Sauron1: 2:47pm On Nov 14, 2009 |
azeeza: @sauron TB Joshua says you will go to South Africa next summer.
is it with the way they are playing now?  We have more than 50 minutes to score 2 goals. Nigeria will GET there. . . . . .Just BELIEVE!!! |
Sports › Re: WCQ: Kenya vs Nigeria - (2-3) by Sauron1: 2:45pm On Nov 14, 2009 |
honeric01: no goal!!! Goal? Where? I will slap your head o. |
Sports › Re: WCQ: Kenya vs Nigeria - (2-3) by Sauron1: 2:42pm On Nov 14, 2009 |
Krayola: If we win and Tunisia draws do we qualify? YES!!!! It is that EASY. |
Sports › Re: WCQ: Kenya vs Nigeria - (2-3) by Sauron1: 2:41pm On Nov 14, 2009 |
scantee: good odewinge If we have 2 players with Odewingie's mentality, we will RULE the world. |
Sports › Re: WCQ: Kenya vs Nigeria - (2-3) by Sauron1: 2:38pm On Nov 14, 2009 |
buffead: dere is no tension in da game at all , dis is disgracefull Buffead, relax!!! TB Joshua says you will go to South Africa next summer. B-E-L-I-E-V-E. |
Sports › Re: WCQ: Kenya vs Nigeria - (2-3) by Sauron1: 2:37pm On Nov 14, 2009 |
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