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jalether:
While I agree that modern football has been watered down, there is nothing remarkable or impressive about hard crunching/carrier threatening tackles of the

60's, 70's and 80's neither. there is a reason why it's called footie and not "zootie" . skills, excitement, passion and unity is the essence of footie and not the

animalisitic approach of players such as Graeme souness, Romeo Benetti, roy keane et al.

I disagree. . . . .
Players didn't moan to the referee then when they were kicked and there were less career-threatening injuries back in the days.
It seems humans have gone softer. . . . . .Players don't dive back in the days. A tackle is a tackle - get up and get on with it. It's a CONTACT sports.

dayokanu:
Jesus Christ of Olodumare!!!

Are people that bored nowadays?  Boredom would be next to cancer in killer diseases very soon.

Thank God World cup starts soon.

I think I should make a documentary too that "Guns can kill"

I have sent several mails to BBC this morning telling them i have got a story to tell about Okada men in Nigeria and their livelihood.
I am going to do another on the pro[i]s[/i]titutes on Allen Avenue and why they have chosen that career path.
Then the chronicles of Kuramo Beach will be the grand finale of the TRILOGY.

The pay-out is about $50,000.

silentc:
A man with a sense of humour

I am waiting for my turn. Who knows I might be able to sue them for damages!

Hahha. . . . .that reminds me. . . .
I have experienced UNTOLD INJUSTICE abroad and it came from our own Nigerian House in London.
The staff down there are the most useless, inconsiderate poofs you can ever meet in the developed world.

Try take a stroll there one day and witness INJUSTICE.

dayokanu:
Whats the documentary about self

The grandson of Opobo came to Naija to tell us Lagos is tough.
Isn't that NEW to you?

dayokanu:
He would moan like a baby that even his teammates would be mad at him in training

I didnt see much of George Best but I bet he must have a tough strain in him. I read he was very unruly, drank, smoked and womanised endlessly.

He wasnt a sissy in any way, Maybe he was someone like Gazza.

His clips are on YOUTUBE. Those were MEN!!!
He was kicked, elbowed, tossed and he never stopped dribbling. . . .
I can watch George Best's clips all day. He ridiculed his markers.
If you kick him, he is just going to dribble you more.

Dr Kitaun:
George Best is the father of 'DRIBBLING'. QED

He was a BEAST with the ball.

Kobojunkie:
Can anyone please load it up on Youtube so those of us not in the UK can see it, I mean the whole documentary>?

Maybe you should relocate to the UK.
We are quite tired of loading up for you guys.

silentc:
Sauron, while your comments are valid, I dont think they address the initial question asked on this post. The post is aimed at your experience of injustice abroad. I am sure one of us can start another post of injustice in Nigeria or better still black on black injustice.

This topic isnt about comparing injustice abroad and Nigeria. Again, valid comments, but wrong debate.

Fair enough. . . .
In that case, i am leaving the floor for those that have been beaten/tortured by cops abroad.

dayokanu:
Try buying something from Dugbe market in Ibadan and speak English. You would end  up paying double after the market women curse your lineage.

Very annoying attitude.
On top of taking advantage of the stranger, they will curse his lineage back to the stone age.

Only Oyinbos discriminate, We Nigerians are saints. I wonder why a person who grew up in all these injustice in Nigeria now complain that a white man looked at him somehow.

Especially someone who's been maltreated by MOPOL or Officers at em illegal checkpoints in Lagos OR during campus RIOTS.
Someone who has been tormented by daredevil robbers in Nigeria. Someone who cannot get through to his mobile network's customer service during the day and must wait 60 mins in the middle of the night to do so.

Can you tell me how Nigerians view Beninoise and Togolese who come here for greener pastures?  Or even hausa men who come to the South to work

Benionoise and Togolese are far-fetched.
I was in Nigeria when the Yorubas and the Hausas clashed in Ketu market several years ago. It was a blood-bath.
Did Nigeria not ask the people from Ghana to leave? Did they cry INJUSTICE?
All those lesson teachers left without their wages.

dayokanu:
That was when men played the game. showboat at your own peril.

I think the last of those vicious goalies was Jens Lehmann

Do you think CR7 would have played football if he were to be born in those times.

Watch out for players like Klaus Augenthaler, Ulli Steilker, Matthias Sammer. yeparipa. Playmakers of those days dey suffer.

You don forget Taribo West of Inter Milans tackle on Andre Kanchelskis of Fiorentina

In those days,
How can you contest a header without your elbows?
How can you contest a corner kick within 5 meters of the goalie?
How can you dribble more than 2 people at a time?
How can the fans be applauding you for dribbling me?

He would PLAY but he wouldn't have moaned like a baby constantly.
George Best managed it and he was kicked from pillar to post but he never stopped ridiculing his opponents.

chika98:
We are on about personal experiences here. It is not my fault that you hung around the rough parts Just kidding!

If it's personal experience. . . .I have never experienced it home or abroad.
However, i know friends and relatives who have got stories to tell. Corrupt policemen, armed robbers, corrupt officials, etc.

It's so bad that if you cannot understand the dialect of your seller, they will cheat you in the market.
They whisper to themselves on how to take advantage of you and yet some people are saying there's injustice abroad.

Our people are WORSE.

chika98:
That is the way of life there

What about the woman 2 Naval Officers stripped in Lagos and thrashed mercilessly?

dayokanu:
Those were the days when tackle from behind are legal, those were the days Schumaker can cripple Batiston and the game continues. Those were the days Jeremies would warn Claudio Reyna not to pass the half way line and he would obey.

Those were when men played football not these days when minor leg-overs are things people cheer in stadium, when Arsenals pass pass were hailed something Rinus Michel perfected over 30yrs ago, Not when CR7 dives when tackled by the blades of grass on the field.

In those days for you to get a foulin your favour, you must show evidence of blood or concussion.

Remember the Bright Omokaro tackle of Maroc 88. Those were football. Vidic thats tagged hard nowadays would cry off the field

Seriously, how did Schumacer get away with that horrendous tackle.
He didn't even attempt to kick the ball. . . . .In today's football, the goalie would be banned for 25 years.

chika98:
I didn't have those sort of problems in Nigeria. Not that I have em here either

So you don't think the epileptic power supply is INJUSTICE?

dayokanu:
A family friend son was shot by cops at Falomo in 2002, the guy was a Chemical Engineering student at UNILAG.

A lady was stripped unclothed in along Muri Okunola by Security agents just 2 yrs ago.

Several Southerners were attacked and killed in the Northern part of Nigeria

Some posters even said they witnessed Northerners being killed in Aba, Sagamu and Onitsha.

So which of the parties perpetrating the injustice are white and which are black

Don't mind the OP and the hypocrisy.
They are ready to take any form of injustice from a Black man but as soon as they see a white man doing the same, they cry RACISM.

We call each others NIGGAZ and laugh about it but if a white man says the same, we go HAYWIRE.
Isn't that HYPOCRISY?

chika98:
Stillwater: Are you kidding me? Maybe not the overt one . . Perhaps something subtle?

I have experienced much more injustice in Naija than anywhere abroad.

oisehumen:
Same story, same scenario everywhere! Capello should have done this or that; Largerback should have done this or that!
Every coach has his own tactical plans for every tournament.

I bet you; a different and intelligence coach would have made a huge success even with the caliber of players Amodu took to Angola.
Everything points to the input from the technical side.

Amodu is a toad. . . . . .He shouldn't have taken Nigeria to Angola.
Any of us here woulda achieved the same results he achieved. . . . .We finished 3rd because of the strength of that team. . . .Not because Amodu added any nous or tactical input to the team.

dayokanu:
France was not the first country to do it. Germans did it 25 years earlier.

Football was gash 25 years earlier.
In the days of back-pass and tackle from behind? Are you shitting me?
Dat one nor be football, abeg. . . . .Na ankle-ball.

Until someone hold all the youth trophies at a time the Germans would then come and set another record

Rubbish.
Fact is they overachieved last season. . . . .
The poofs couldn't even qualify in Europe just 12 months after. . . .PATHETIC!!!

medjai:
The likes of Obasi, Nsofor, Odemwingie, Utaka, will play from the flanks. Kanu will most likely play as an attacking midfielder or supporting striker. Only Martins and Yakubu will play as strikers. You cant really blame Lagerback, there's a dearth of creative players in the midfield hence, the conversion of strikers to midfielders. He's working with what is available.

The last time i checked, Nigeria have a professional league!!!
What about those midfielders in Chrisantus' class or the Olympic team that blew everyone away in 2008?

chika98:
Meaning not everyone is crusty and vile. I want my bridesmaids looking HOT!

Nice!

chika98:
Exclude me then. When you've nabbed your own man. . wetin consign me again?

Meaning?
You nor be woman again?

oisehumen:
We are in this situation because our head coach was not given enough opportunity to really examine Nigerian players both home based and abroad.
The list of 45 that he drafted was reduced to 30 without giving the dropped players an avenue to express their skills.

So, what do u expect? He is doing his best as far as am concerned. The problem is our NFF who are inept and have no brains.

If this is TRUE then the NFF should carry the blame.
They have always been useless.

If i remember correctly, didn't Amodu go to Angola with the same number of forward players?
The midfield is the most important part in a team. They do the transition from the defence to the attack. . . .

chika98:
Sauron honestly insecure women do things like that. No confident woman will do it that way.
You want your bridesmaids to look gorgeous as well.

Have you actually read the first 3 pages of this topic?
They said it's a silent code amongst y'all women.

[quote author=Red-lips link=topic=452813.msg6131076#msg6131076 date=1275405109]Well different strokes for different strokes.
When I got married, I personally chose beautiful tall girls and I went outof my way to chose a beautiful dress for them for that day. I also had them do make a lovely hair-do.

All these I did to make them look good and to grace the occassion - My wedding. Besides it is also an opportunity for them to showcase their beauty and catch their own men afterall am hooked.[/quote]I am highly impressed. . . .
Unfortunately, brides like you are now SCARCE.
The ones we have out there today will rather pack Godzillas n Godzukis in their bridal train so they can look prettier.

dayokanu:
Germany does not have anything to prove to anyone at European underaged tournaments. They did a clean sweep what no one in Europe has been able to do

Rubbish talks.
France won the world cup in 98. . .European Champs in 2000 and Confed Cup in 2001.
They don't have anything to prove again. . . . .What a useless way of reasoning.

Those 2 jesters Green and Hart can not man the German U17 post. that Ziegler guy that was released by Man utd is farr better than the 2 of them soldered together

Zieler is not better than Ben Foster. . . . .I watch the Man Utd youth team more than anyone on thid forum.
Stop chatting bollocks. Joe Hart is 5 times better than Zieler. Although to be honest, Zieler is better than Lloris.

Olaolufred:
Nothing is wrong with 7 Strikers.
Some of them can still play well in Midfield.
However, Capello may choose to go with one striker based on his own strategy.
Someone else could choose more based on another strategy.
Your strategy will be more influenced by the resources available.
Mind you that our players differs to theirs.
Let us support instead of being critical.

By all logic, a team should have more midfielders than strikers.
Of course, Nigeria as a country do things that defy logic.

Who goes into a tournament with 7 strikers? How many of those can you play at a time?
U will just have a bench filled with strikers who will not get a chance at playing.

We are going to the world cup, people. . .
A competition where if you don't concede goals, you cannot LOSE.

medjai:
How is it 7 strikers in the Super eagles. The only out and out strikers in that team are Yakubu and Martins. Kanu plays more as a midfielder. Osaze, Obasi, Nsofor, Utaka, though they can play as strikers, their primary role is not basically striking.

If their primary role is not striking, i see no reason why they should make it.
Go back to the days of Westerhof and Bonfrere Jo. . . . .None of em took 7 strikers to a football tournament.
Something is wrong with the set-up. 7 strikers is way too much and it sounds desperate.

Besides, the best form of defence is attack. That we are under dogs doesnt mean we should play a defensive and unattractive style of football. If we sit back and play a defensive style of play against the Argies, we'll definitely get hurt.

If we commit too many players to attack, we will get HURT as well.
U claimed Kanu, Osaze, Nsofor and Utaka are not strikers, how defensive are these players when Nigeria is leading and we need to see a game off?
By the time we lose the first two games, y'all will come back here to start criticizing when you should have pointed it out in the first place.
I am not a fan of hindsight analysis. Nigeria will be exposed with 4-3-3. We are not equipped enough to function with it.

Also, one of the reasons Amodu was axed was because of the defensive and cautious style of play he adopted. He was getting the results but in an ugly way. There's a plethora of defensive minded midfielders in the Eagles. Isnt it right to balance it with a number of attackers?

5 strikers should have been enough. . . . .
No formation requires you to have more than 2-3 strikers in a team. Why do you then need 7?
SEVEN?? Our coaching crew are CLUELESS.

chic2pimp:
This is a case of common sense. And common sense tell us Hugo is better than the both of em'.

Except that you have no common sense.
This debate is over. . . .

chika98:
No-one at the mo
Towards the end. . then I'll support someone. . till then I'm a pendulum.

tsssk. . . .tsssk.

chika98:
Doing what you know how to do

Chika ma wifey. . . . .
Who are you supporting for this world cup?
USA? Ghana? Or your beloved country, Serbia?

chic2pimp:
I thought so.
Dude stop chatting poppycocks. Green and Hart are not better than Lloris.

Bring out your facts now. . . .Abi you be goat?

Akolawole:
I will soon wipe your bum with koboko.
Ibi knew about Micah Richards saga at that time. The yeye #18m bla bla bla. Unless he told me what Shed end fans says about it that i dont know.

The question is. . . . .How much did Jose Mourinho spend on players before he realised he needed a new right back defender?

chic2pimp:
You've been smoking pot abi?
How is Green better than Lloris?
With regards to Hart, he has the potential to be better but he is currently not better.

Football Manager told me so.
Unlike you, i have facts to back ma stuffs. . . .U just believe in the mumbo-jumbo spewed by mumbo-jumbo drunkards in your Paraga shop.

oisehumen:
Maybe our coach wants to play 4  or more strikers in one match, lol

Now you get the drift?

jalether:
and what's the logic behind Joe cole preference over A.Johnson. btw, experience/maturity bullshit is overrated.

Uncle Jalether, you should know better.
Joe Cole has so much more to offer than a zombie like Adam Johnson.
Joey is more experienced, he's been there done that and can produce a moment of magic(Naniesque) . . .Did you see England's game against Japan?

a player who won the gk of the season in the biggest league in the world, the epl, surely cannot be intimidated at the national level

Winning the GK of the season in the biggest league means squat. He still conceded 47 goals.
Joe Hart has not featured yet in any European competition. Where is the experience? Do you know his state of mind when he travels?

how old was Cassillas when he graced the stage for spain at the 02 wc.

Casillas was Real Madrid's goalie back then. He featured in the UCL.
He faced world class strikers and he conquered em. The strikers he faced in the UCL were not different to the ones he faced in the UCL.

how old was Owen, Pele,maradona et al when they set the wc alight
quality supersedes caps which loosely translate to experience. all day of the week.

Owen and Pele were strikers. . . . .Generally,younger players are preferred in that department. It's quite different from a goalkeeper.
If quality supersedes caps then Rafael should be with the Brazilian team. . . .

chic2pimp:
On paper that statement is true but we all know in reality that ain't true.
Also did I hear you say Green is better than LLoris hehehehe

Robert Green and Joe Hart are better than Lloris.

oisehumen:
Hmmmm, I really don't know what to say when it comes to Nigerian football. I actually gave up on our Super Eagles when Amodu took over.
But we have about 7 midfielders too. I think the coach means well for us.

We have 5!
Any freak injury to 2 of those means we are royally screwed by a Gorilla on VIAGRA.

Akolawole:
@Le Chacaal

Are you a chelsea fan??

I cant believe you've reached that "no of post"

So i have to be a Chelsea fan to know what is happening a few miles away from where i reside?
Akola, you nor get point.

I dunno any Chelsea fan on this entire forum that knows more about the club than i do.