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Missy89:
Did your Russian speaking sources remember to tell you that Russia used a ballistic missile ( more than one) in Grozny ? Maybe NATO did it so they can blame Russia.

Please ask your Russian sources for me "via a telephone call"

Lolz

Either Russia did or not. I did not follow the Grozny war because I was still watching CNN,Fox,CNBC, (Son of Propaganda), BBC(Father of Propaganda) and western media lies for 5 good years until i got out of the system to see myself that I have been scammed all the while. SO i cannot really confirm anything that happened in the Chechnia war but facts on ground is Chechinia is still one of Russia's republic even after turkey, saudi arabia backed by the Anglozionist empire tried to destroy the region.

Why not reason with the recent realities, instead of jumping from one thing to another.. Again if i call you a Paid troll, someone will attack me.. Now this is a typical example of how paid trolls work. When u counter them with facts on ground, they tend to look for other means to justify their point, thereby going off topic in other to try to be on the good side of history.

No, you are on the wrong side of history. #Fact

Missy89:
Google " Russia fires artillery into ukraine"

Are you sure you are not the zombie here

Lol..google is actually the father of propaganda and this is one of the main reason google is being sanctioned or blocked in the maindland in China and some other areas too. Well, for your information, i get my info not from google or western media but dirrect source. Those closser to the front wars. I got all the info that went on in donestk, Lugansk and Crimean penisular from dirrect source via a telephone call. By the way my 5th language is Russian so i can speak to these people.

Russia never fired atelery shells into Ukraine. The only time I think this could have happened was when the Tochka U balistic missile was shut down. I could not confirm who shut it down.. The Novorossians or a s-300 from Russia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8j4Ijs7_FQ

And i could also confirm another Tochka U being fired into donestk/Luganks by the Puppet regime in kiev. it was the second one that was intercepted or shut down.
Can anyone in this 21st century imagine how sub-human these NATO/WEST and its puppets are ? How could you fire a ballistic missile to a densely popupated area ? Ballistic missile oh..


Second pt.
Shooting down of the Airline.

Before the Airline was diverted to that area. The Ukraine and the west hide the realities there from their viewers. Information war. 13 ukrianian jets were shut down before the plane MH17 was diverted to E.Ukraine a war zone.

My main question here is, is it normal human being or sub-human puppet goverment will allow an international airline be diverted to the area where 13 fighter jets was shut down ?

Are these people really human beings ?

lol
Debate with a toilet paid troll ? A sub-human ??

You are funny. If u don't know, im an expert in spotting a real toilet paid troll.
Sorry the truth hurts plus i debate with normal human beings..

MosquitoLaps:
Guy, I've been following this argument since its inception.
I've noticed that you can hardly counter her points without calling her names, or insulting her at worst.
What's up, man? is that how you debate?
Most times when I see your replies, I just shake my head and wonder who the "zombie" or "dead super brain" is.

You're a worthy opponent, a formidable and intelligent one. Stop resorting to insults when you reply opposing arguments from Missy89 and ObaGhadaffi et al.

Truth be told, if I were her, I'd have refrained from replying you further.
Be civil, please.

Let the arguments continue. Carry on, Nairaminted and Missy89.
I'm enjoying this.

gists:
What is honorable in trying to change history? You conveniently left out the part where GEJ and his gang were busy playing victim card with religous politics. Nigerians merely reacted to their fo0lish satanic antics that left us more divided than ever. Let me refresh your memory a little:
You guys used clichés like "Boko haram is a northern islamic tool to get back to power" to get sympathy from the Nigerian Xtian communities to get behind GEJ while completely ignoring the fact the he was the CnC and failed woefully at his pry responsibility.

Have forgotten the "jesus of otueke" episode? Where Okupe tried to compare GEJ with Jesus? Thank God for the sensible Nigerian Xtians, that move failed woefully.

Have you also forgotten that episode when FFK said 80% of APC governors are muslims - trying (but thanks fully he failed) to insite religious acrimony in SW

Many Nigerians have not forgotten the episode when Sambo campaigned that northers should not vote for APC because the Osinbajo has 5000 churches?

We will never forget GEJ administration as the most divisive, hammering on religious/ethnic fault lines just to come back to power. By the special grace of God, we will not have another buffon like him again.

I have been asking this question since 2012 from people like you but you guys have not been able to provide answer till now"


My conclision as at 2014 which has been confirmed

True, what is the way forward ?

vedaxcool:
Lol the guy is so pained that he wants to report me to the police oya go do so but if you fail to carryout your threat then you are dirty omo ale and smelly idiotu like boy kisser putin.
Now go ram your head on a brick wall.

lol.. to Hate sub-humans that is full of mushroom brains ? there is obviously nothing to hate cos you can't hate a sub-human. The fact that im replying your backwardness is to cut the link between your baseless mission of recruiting more innocent Nigerians for your anglozionist wahhabism terrorist insitution.

You are nothing but a pure media proxy, terrorist recruiter, serving Nigerian's existential threat, Africa's existential threat (The anglozionist Empire) and that's the difference between me and you.

In any case, Nigeria comes first and future is bright.. The future is latin America, India, China,Russia, African development bank, AIIB, BRICS. A world without sub-humans.. A perfect world without massive debts leaving unborn generations tiedto paying unending debts.

When common sense is not common any longer, then mere lowlife backward nonentity like you continue to run stupidity at maximum level.

Re: Photos Of Buhari, Lamido Sanusi & Other "Nigerian Leaders" In Mecca
https://ooduarere.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/gej-buharri.jpg

The last time it was GEJ in Jerusalem kissing walls and now this, for how long are we going to continue living in denial ?
Many facts have pointed to Wahhabism of Saudi Arabia sponsoring Boko Haram in Nigeria and this was made clear since the boko haram Affiliate claim and proved allegiance to the wahhabi terrorist institution in Saudi Arabia backed by the west.

For how long are we going to continue being un-civilized?

The saudis (Sunis), West(Christians, Orthodox) all have their civilizations but only in Nigeria our leaders continue to act like a total puppet to other civilizations. What will it take us to re-defined our civilization instead of condemning the ones left like the Yoruba civilization.

How many times have you seen a Babalawo travel to Saudi Arabia, disgracing its forefathers or kissing stones in Jerusalem ?
Though there are some Yorubas in Latin America that has root to Ifa traditional Yoruba religion of destiny and always return home.

Now that is a civilization.
Have you ever seen a Saudi king or Prince in any of our festive period Or is it that we have remain so ignorant and religiously blind to the realities of the 21st century?

The last time the Shia too formed parallel government was being shot at and killed by the government of purely Sunnis. Is it not the same foreign ideologies that shia has but off-course Shia is Iranian and must be suppressed.

If you put your country first and re-modernize it with the existing religious groups so as not to produce future puppets to these foreign civilizations. These will mean the new beginning of a civilization and a proud Nation.

May Eledumare continue to help us.


http://ooduarere.com/politics/puppets-photos-of-buhari-lamido-sanusi-other-nigerian-leaders-in-mecca/#sthash.VWx474QR.dpbs

I have always argued with my cousin in U.S that if they leave me and John Kerry one on one, I will beat the hell out of him. He says,"I agree because Kerry is old papa nah, but if they leave you and Obama, it's win win for him oh."

See one of the reasons I dislike these politicians with passion, instead of using common sense, this is what got us mad the other time, that some crooks will sit down thousand miles away from Liberia and still be deciding the fate of the country. It's the reason Nigeria sent Soldiers to defend the Liberian rebel installed by U.S back in the day and when the bidding to loot the country got terrible, Clinton ordered Charles tailor to step down. It was when they decided to support the opposition forces Charles tailor suppressed that Nigeria stepped in to restore order in Liberia and this why most Liberians love Nigerians even more than any country I have been to.

Now Kerry Says If Ceasefire Fails He May Partition Syria
why?
Because, you know, Eledumare/God made him the owner of Syria

That's Western 'nation-building' and international law for you

John Kerry is an incredible motivator! He has just told Syrian jihadi-controlled rebellion that all it has to do is sabotage the upcoming ceasefire he has agreed to with Moscow and he will reward them with a mini-state carved out from Syria. What better incentive to abide by the deal and cease hostilities could he possibly give them?

John Kerry, the US secretary of state, has said he will move towards a plan B that could involve a partition of Syria if a planned ceasefire due to start in the next few days does not materialize, or if a genuine shift to a transitional government does not take place in the coming months.
Oh yes, you may have thought that "partition" is a bad word, but that's only true when the Russians do it. When Americans partition a foreign country (Korea, Vietnam, Yugoslavia, Serbia, Sudan) that is actually a good thing.

Which presents us with a problem since Kerry is apparently willing to invite Putin to help with the partition:


Kerry suggested partition could form part of an eventual solution, saying “this can get a lot uglier and Russia has to be sitting there evaluating that too. It may be too late to keep it as a whole Syria if it is much longer”.

It is the first time Kerry has spoken of partition, although some believe Putin would be content to see this happen.
This creates a moral problem for us because while a unilateral partition of Syria by the virtuous US would be a good thing, a joint US-Russian partition would be tainted by the virtue of having evil Russian paws over it.

Hopefully the Russian nation-breaking dictator will decline the offer of the nation-building Obama Administration official and avert the possibility of American-Russian collusion in breaking up a sovereign third country.

PS. Wasn't it just a short few weeks ago that the West was accusing Moscow of plotting partition of Syria? How times change.

SHaking hands with the king of wahhabism terrorist institution itself.. The same goverment that barked regime change back in the day..

OMG!! why can't we be a rational thinker ?

We really need to choose our friends wisely.. When is Buhari going to China by the way..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3Zliu4KPts

F**K the terrorist alliance known as NATO !!

Anglozionist empire's time is up.

NairaMinted:
She called the insurgents in Eastern Ukraine "terrorists"

Apparently the UN had forgotten to update their list to correlate with Poroshenko's... Lol...

lol.. you got a lot of time answering bunch of ignoramus crooks. One of them missy89 or99 was equating Syrian terrorists to Novorosians..lol... initially i did not answer the notion as i went to first of all investigate where the crook got that notion from.. I found out that it's from Aljezera and specifically from this British Qatari media head propagandist, he once equated the novo Russians to the likes of moderate rebels in Syria and that Russia is protecting the same interest as Turkey and the rest terrorist countries in the middle east.. Israel, Saudi Arabia , Qatar and Turkey.. Off course all of them backed by Anglo Saxon and Anglo America..


But the crook did not even mention the coup in maidan in other words regime change that lead to everything which the same Russia is fighting and preventing from happening again in Syria...

You see how these miscreants reason ? I have concluded that they are nothing but pure anglozionist media proxies recruiting Nigerians for Boko haram..
The Wahhabism terrorist institution backed by the anglozionist empire.. The likes of Missy89, ValerianSteel, fineguy11 and mazeltov.. These crooks are birds of a feather flocking together and in the same direction.

SeverusSnape:
Please ignore his tantrums, He's pained because B00HARI is not living up to expectations. Don't worry, I'll soon purchase an Apple Ipod player for him.

aresa you want ipod??

Buy Apple Ipod player for him W hy not buy the one made in Nigeria ? There is this guy that built Ipad in naija.. Start by buying that one for him first.. See the type of culture that is giving outsiders job..

Falling of oil price is a blessing rather than down-fall


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IF1ZrERm6zc
at last they have brains to start this innitiative.. So if Saudi arabia and its anglozionist puppet master did not kill the oil price, Nigerian leaders will not start this ' all of a sudden patriotism'

The truth is, when there is no mojor revenue from Oil.. The goverment needs another steady form of revenue.. That can only be done via taxation.. What do you want to tax.. You can only tax the job you create.. Now that leads to the campaign...#MadeiNNigeria..

I agree 110% but will they continue like this or stop the moment oil is sold 110 USD again ?? 70% goverment lavish spending comes from Oil revenue.. Which is 90% Nigeria's export..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IF1ZrERm6zc

Nairalanders, Please share widely if you agree that only when we buy Nigeria can we grow the Naira's value. Like if you disagree ...

olatade:
old vid...

well, for those who have not seen it.. i shared cos it's new to me..

Johnnie Carson, U.S. assistant secretary for African Affairs, says
*China is a “very aggressive and pernicious economic competitor with no morals.*

exhibit a — africa
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*One of the reasons China has become such an attractive investor to these African countries is because the Chinese model is decidedly different from that of the US and the western powers. Specifically, the Chinese don’t view aid in terms of loans, grants, or charity. Rather, they view financial aid in terms of mutually beneficial cooperation – win-win investment as the Beijing sometimes calls it. To be fair, there are of course instances of corruption, some negative byproducts in terms of uneven distribution, environmental degradation, and other effects which come with all forms of investment, regardless of who’s doing the investing. But what the Chinese offer is hard investment in infrastructure: roads, factories, airports, railways, ports, satellite and telecommunications networks, etc. that are required for them to get a return on their investment and to be able to further expand their economic investment on the continent.

And China does so without that negative product that the African people are so justifiably afraid of: debt.

In other words, when the Chinese come in to make an investment, they do so without the debt albatross to hang around the necks of African nations. There are no loans to be serviced when the Chinese are done with their investment. And this is one of the reasons why almost every country in Africa views China as a viable alternative to western financial investment and “aid.” And this is the danger that the US sees here.

The US knows, quite frankly, that because of its own economic issues and those of Europe as well, that it simply cannot compete with China in terms of investment in Africa. So, what the United States has chosen to do, and this is clear from the policy decisions and military engagement all over the continent, is to check Chinese economic penetration with military penetration. And that is really the overarching issue here: the US uses its military [and aq, boko haram, isis, sars, ebola…..] everywhere on the African continent to block Chinese economic engagement, penetration, and influence.* [1] Missy89 falls here, a pure troll used speficially on the Nigerian people on Nairaland by recruiting bokoharamites

the sudan chapter
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*If one asks the question “who benefits from the South Sudanese civil war?” the answer is clear. The USA is presently the ONLY beneficiary of the ongoing horrors in South Sudan for this latest round of conflict has once again shut down the Chinese run oil fields in the country. [3]

The USA has determined that its in its “national interests” to deprive China of access to Africa’s oil fields and has succeeded in its goal of again shutting down Chinese oil production in Sudan, the only majority Chinese owned oil field in Africa
………………….
the USA via the CIA has been paying the salaries of the South Sudanese Army (SPLA) since 2009. In other words, both the soldiers (“rebels”) supporting Riek Machar and the soldier supporting President Salva Kiir are being paid by the USA, paid to kill each other
……………………….
I for one am really, really sick of Africans being portrayed as tribalistic animals murdering each other in never ending slaughters when the only real beneficiary of such are foreign powers, mainly the USA and its western vassals. If one does just a little research into these holocausts one begins to see who really benefits and when it comes to the civil war in South Sudan the only party presently benefiting from these crimes is the USA.* [2]

Missy89:
Lol more rants from a brain dead zombie that belongs on a walking dead movie set.


I asked you 2 questions you are shouting brics, inssson , ajaokuta ,100 naira and ghadaffi. Lol

Now you are bleating brics brics brics bircs. The last time I checked china is the richest member in the brics and their currency is currently in the SDR which means the value will will start going up against other currencies.


Now tell me how an export driven economy like china which is the richest member of the brics will want to trade in worthless rouble instead of the dollar and even If they do, how does it affect the dollar since the Yuan will now be better regulated and the value will be determined by the market?

How can Russia create a big demand for her currency when the whole Russia economy is not export driven? How many stuffs does Russia export every year? They are still receiving dollars for most of their arms sales this year you are talking about creating demand lol. No one wants the rouble

It doesn't matter if few european countries are against sanctions. The most important thing is that the sanction is in place. And will remain in place.

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honestly argueing with a complete deef and dumb super brain dead neurons that has lost all sense of reasoning not by mistake but as a profession that is paid by the anglozionist falling empire to continue distaughting public opinion....

I have explained everything in details for you and your likes.. Nigeria is also hit by your anglozionist controlled or manipulated fall in oil price by the same wahhabism of saudi arabia killing the oil price.

Now let me add this last one.. 50-60% of oil is traded in U.S.. When oil reduced to 30 usd.. Now there will be less demand for Dollars cos of reduce in price of oil. If the economies affected by the controlled or manipulation find alternative, it will be double wahhala for dead body dollar..

Like i said, the dollar is on the time bomb.. More economies will continue to dedolarize..
Time for Nigeria to do the same thing..

By the way, the anglozionist empire is everywhere even on Nairaland... Nigeria will eventually purge out these miscreants..

Missy89 you are too low life to be dealing with highly advance ppl. You should get a great job that pays instead of recruiting boko haramites.

China is Russia's good ally and im even happy Russia and china will continue to be allies even though washington has tried to make these two be enemies..
China coming first makes super sense..Either its currency is added or not has nothing to do with bRICS..briCS run as a parrelel development bank.

BRICS has come to stay.. AIIB is China's world bank.. It's has also come to stay..
i will share an article bellow.. for Nigerians not u oh.. To read..

Missy89:
When I read so much incoherent jargons in one single post I know this is a waste of time.

Your economic analysis seems to be based on " in the long run" and " imagining a scenarios" that will never happen.

Explain how low oil prices boomerangs on the dollar
If Russia is not trading in usd what curency will it trade in? Roubles ( dead end) or yuan ?

Explain those 2 in simple and coherent sentences without ranting about zionism and maybe I will take u seriously

you are obviously a permamnent zombified anglozionist puppet. how many bokoharamites have you recruited today ?

Facts are there...Russia only needs to creat demand for its National currency and this may even be based on mutual interest. Buhari did almost the same thing back in his 2 years that got him removed by babangida backed by the same western crooks.. You see that regime change isnot today in their diary but Russia has now managed to give a good answer to regime change..



Now.. BRICS card which is already a reality will be the funding back here bases on mutual interest.. here it's simple. Via the use of each other bank letter.. Let me explain even more. Here u have 100 naira of oil that you want to sell to russia.

There is a Business man in Russia that can make 150 Naria after buying it from your country and reselling it to the Rusians..
Now if the Business man does not have 100 Naira in Rubble to buy from Nigeria. He has the option of going to BRICS assuming Nigeria is under BRICS.

Going to bricks to get that 100 in russian conversion rate.. He or she does not need to first of all convert that amout of rubble to dollar before converting it to Naira. With the use of Bank letter of credit will do all that.. A credified commercial bank in Russia can easily confirm to a Nigerian bank that yes the Business man has such amouth of monney in their care.. Now this is all that is needed to buy from Nigeria. and once the oil is shipped the bank in Russia wires the amount to Nigeria. This is just one method of payment that will kill dollar sharply.. Buhari back in the day went to latin america to do exchange by barter.. Very similar to the same initiative but differentworld..


Anyhow you like to twist a and b .. The facts are still on ground.. Less demand for dollar means less pressure on your national currency on the long run.. It's not all about trading in your national currency but creating more demand for your national currency then that will give you leverage in the real world.

This is part of what Gaddafi was planning and wanted to do.. Part of the reason he was killed.. in his case, he wanted to even kill dollar finally.. By using gold reserve to back its oil..
Here if you are buying oil which is Libya's major export.. U will need to first of all convert your money to gold.. That is buy gold and transfer that gold to libya beforeu can buy libya..

Honestly Nigeria at some point or at this point need complete diversification before it gets worse.


Taking Nigeria's case.. Imagine everybody in Nigeria starts using anything Nigerians first.. Just like the recent acceptance of the Music industry. I could remember there was a time all the stations were playing foreign music.

Just imagine the help Nigerians will be doing heir country if they change their mode to made in Nigeria..

let me give u main thing..
All the foreign holiday trips and mode changed to holday in the calabar resort.. All the foreign medical trips reduced completely.. The ladies fond of buying brazilian hair stop using fake hair..

50% of Nigerians buying Innoson cars.. Ajaokuta opens up, 24 hours light.. All industries working and now anything made in Nigeria will be used by Nigerians first..

Imagine how that will reduce demand for dollar to nothing..

The issue of Nigeria is this ought to have been done since.. in the case of Russia.. That is what Russia is doing as we speak and the only card washington has left is to kill the rubble with sanctions.. WHat the sanction managed to do is stop the foreign service credit servicing which in reality did not change anything on ground.. Russia understand the sanctions have come to stay forever and has created a parallel market to it.. BRICS..


GET some brains pls..

Now how many EU countries want more sanctions with Russia as we speak ? The last time I checked many are beginning to wakeup from their slumbers.. They are even the ones wanting the sanctions be removed.. Russia is not begging one bit because it has another card on the table.

pls dont assume anything.. Oduduwa did not come from any fake mecca.. Ile ife existed 10,000 BC before the birth of Jesus.. So please. It's saudi arabia propaganda that one lamurudacame.. we are not related to any lamurudu from any Mecca.. they are the ones related to us and that history has been erased since the kush empire..

How much will Oyedopo pay me ? I am ready to turn to mad man and be cured by him in 6months...I want monthly pay between 500k-1m..

Oydepo is m@d with his crazies.. in the 21st century, this is crap pls.. next joo..

Missy89:
Really, what do you think Medvedev was doing in Munich?

It doesnt matter what currency China/ Iran and Russia sign their deals in. It wont have any effect on the dollar. The volume of trade made with US Dollars a day will shite on the Russia/China deal. I bet it wasnt signed in Roubles ( since it has lost most of its value) and if it was signed with Chinese currency, that actually helps the US dollars since the Chinese Yuan is now in the SDR which means the days of artificial manipulation will soon be over.

I told you to stop reading conspiracy website, you wont listen

you are obviously a super zombified really.. in a huge economy like russia.. Dedolaziring the economy on the long means dead zone for u.s.d yes on the short run this is good for U.s.. but on the long run.. dollar is traded about 55-60% in petro dollar..

imagine a scenario where demand for dollar in these big economies is reduced to 10% ? Naturally oil Price reduction may also bomerang on Dollars.. On the long run.. You watch and see nah..

The ugliest thing U.S.A dont want to see is more economies dedolarizing on the long run. It means issolation. Nigeria has started for ur information....
This is economics 101 for you. You don't need rocket science to know that when there is less demand for dollars, that means less pressure on your national currency...

Naturally these foreign currencies were going into Russia via the west to service the credits but since they were sanctioned.. Russia now needs to either buy from the forex or use its reserve to meet up the demands. Another option according to Russian central bank which is control by the same 5th column in Russia. Im not sure u even know anything..

Nigeria and Nigerians really need to learn a lot from a country like Russia.

Again China does anything that favours its national interest. It will continue to do so. In the end CHina will come top... What I think Nigeria should be doing..

Again long run.. BRICS... Parrallel Economic zones to serve as major development bank will reduce dollar to nothing.. Get the facts right before running your anglozionist crazy campaign.. I know you are recruiting boko haram fo wahabism of saudi arabia against Nigeria..

You willlose cos I am ready to explain everything for you. How it works.. You did not reply my last comment about empirescoming and going and time is now for anglozionist empire to go.. You should run your mouth again..

Missy89:
Lol @ masterfully. As long as kiev remains boxed in like you claim, sanctions will remain on Russia if minsk is not implemented. So much for masterful tactics.

you are funny with your comments.. rusia is not even begging its western 'partners' to remove the sanctions. it's a game being played by the head of the empire against the european Puppets NATO and EURO. and who played the game.. NUland..f**k the EU.. RUssia in this aspect has managed to play its own card very well by diversifying this part of its economy that is heavily dependent on Dollar on the long run.. The oil..( WHat Nigeria needs the most).. What card did russia play.. See it bellow.

Since the sactions are affecting EURO and Russia.. And the real game played out at the end of the day is dollar is now stronger than Euro..

Card played by Russia.
Hahah smart Obama. Give that credit to obama.. But can it last long ? The lastest trend is most economies are dedolarizing their economies, the same way Russia is doing.. This is a big blow, in fact a dead blow to the leader of the anglozionist Empire.. Russia has signed massive deals with China not in dollars... Iran is not using the dollar to sell its oil.. Even the recent britain want autonomy from EU..

These are the latest trend or the recent realities...

Besides, the way things are.. Kiev seems to be stuck in the Mink 2 agreement.. One thing i think is for sure.. There wont be mink 3 at least for a long period of time becuse kiev is not all that important strategic zone as syria is.

you dug up your grave and burried yourself in it.. how and why..


Empires come and go.. ottoman empire has come and gone.. soviet empire has come and gone.. now it's time for anglozionist empire to go in which turkey is a puppet state to the empire that wants to restore its mini ottoman empire in the region. the brotherhood....

if you know this for a fact then you will have no much choise except to reason with the recent realities on ground..

a multi-polar world order which makes super sense. That is balancing of power.. Nato has how many countries ? CIS countries are how many besides they don't even have a unified military like NATO terrorist org has.

What is the latest trend in military strength that is acceptable by the general masses not what the western crook media always portray or sell to their zombified viewers? is it the one that wants a unified world order or the one that counters such military strenght ? because absolute power corrupts absolutely..

if you want to talk about invading, the way the anglozionist empire invades unarmed coutries.. how many times did russia fire its shells into ukraine from russia even in the crimean penisular as the brain dead Erdgogan is doing to syria after its terrorists are lossing on all fronts?


- and last How come shakasvhili is now wanted in Georgia as we speak ?

Only a network of puppet regimes will accept someone that is a president in one country, be a governor in another country. now what does that tell youin reality about shakasvhili and the regime in kiev ?

to cut the long story short.. the future of our earth is a multi-polar world and that order will be lead by the following ecocomis zones..
BRICS,CIS,AIIB and African Development Bank..

now this is the primary reason you have these terrorists in the major zones.. mainly to counter the emergence of this new world orders. if you ask me.. double starndard is killing the anglozionist empire which will eventually die..

Missy89:
Thank you for the inconsequential history lesson but you keep shooting urself in the foot.

1. Russia did not remove shakasvhili from power in Georgia stop lying

2. Even the most extreme trolls know there are Russian soldiers in UKraine fighting there. Evidence too overwhelming so stop saying Russia won't invade ukraine.


Now let's apply ur dumbb logic to Syria. Syria was part of the ottoman empire since 1516. Turkey and Russia are successor states to the ottoman and soviet empires respectively. So if Russia sees the Donbass as her own even thou it is clearly part of another country today, Turkey is allowed to apply the same logic to support turkmen rebels in syria or whichever rebel faction they want to support is it not?

Thank you for digging your own grave.

Missy89:
Keep displaying ya ignorance.

Most fighters in the Donbass are foreigners as well (Most of them are from Russia) - check
Donbass terrorists are fighting a legitimate government too - check
Syrian opposition rebels have attended/proposed tonnes of peace talks some even brokered by Russia and the EU /UN - check
Donbass terrorists have killed extra judicially too ( go and watch novorosiya tv) - check

'Most fighters in the Donbass are foreigners as well (Most of them are from Russia) '

are you ok ?
just to quickly correct you here. donbass or donetsk was russia for over 300 years until after it was broken by the west agenda.. this date back to kievian-rus.. the city of kiev is even older than Moscow front. The first front againt the intruders was kievian-rus before the Moskovskiu front...

where am i going to here.. ukraine is only 21/23 years and has violated the Budapest memorandum. i am sure you know nothing about this.. Well i wont go into much details..

but my point here is.. There is no difference between Donbass and Russians. They are the same thing and you can't even spot any difference between the two.. Even as we speak.. russian language is the widely speaking language in kiev.

The original Ukainians were nothing but the kossacks, also russians but long term fought against Russia to form its autonomous republics.. and Kossacks are mainly in Zaporozhy...Dnieper.. those were the original ukrainians before the same west agenda added and support many part of hungarians, polish and so added more nationalities that formed today's ukraine..

my pt here is kiev and Russia no matter what.. no matter the provocation by those western ukrainians. Russia will never go into war with Kiev. Except if attacked and u will only give Russia a reason to un-install the Western puppet in kiev. Just as they did to Georgian western puppet president in 2008 and that president is now a governor in Odessa Ukraine..

DO you think they did wrong?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSo2RMkTB8E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgHSEkwiuqQ
Written and produced by SF Team: J.Hawk, Daniel Deiss, Edwin Watson

There are two major unknown questions concerning the breakdown in relations between Turkey and Russia following the ambush of a Russian Su-24 bomber in the skies above Syria. The first is what turn of events prompted Turkey’s leadership to adopt a course of confrontation against Russia. The second is why this escalation did not come months sooner, when Hmeimim was far more vulnerable to Turkish attack or blockade.

When Russian aircraft first arrived at Hmeimim, the war was going badly for the Syrian government. The terrorists were able to make major advances during the prior months, and were close to threatening Damascus itself. Syrian forces were demoralized by their setbacks and suffering from shortages of equipment and ammunition. The Russian air group at that point numbered slightly more than 30 aircraft, the base had no long-range air defenses, and only a small ground contingent to protect it on the ground. The bulk of the materiel for the base and for the rearmament of the Syrian army was only beginning to arrive by Syria Express ships which were busy traversing the Bosphorus in both directions. The Russian military has not yet demonstrated its combat effectiveness or its long reach – it would do only after the air campaign reached its full tempo and began to be accompanied by cruise missile strikes and heavy bomber sorties. If Erdogan decided to launch a ground operation in Syria in September or October of 2015, when the situation presented far more tempting opportunities, Turkish forces stood a far better chance of influencing the outcome of the war in Syria than they do right now.

Several months later, the situation has changed to such an extent that Turkish intervention has almost no chance of scoring a military success. Hmeimim now hosts over 50 aircraft, including Su-27SM, Su-30SM, and Su-35S fighters which can provide effective fighter defense against Turkish incursions. It is also protected by a multi-layered air defense system which includes the S-400 high altitude, long-range missile system, Buk-M2 medium range weapons, and Pantsir-S short-range gun/missile vehicles which are capable of shooting down not only aircraft but also cruise missiles and guided bombs. Hostile aircraft would also face a barrage of electronic countermeasures that would significantly degrade their ability to target Hmeimim. The cruise missile launches by Russian naval ships and heavy bombers have demonstrated the ability to target Turkish air bases and destroy Turkish aircraft on the ground, in the event of escalation of the fighting.

Russian bases in Syria also enjoy the protection from a constant presence of a naval task force, which includes a missile cruiser armed with long-range anti-ship and anti-aircraft weapons, several anti-submarine ships, and at least one missile corvette.

On the ground, the battalion force of Russian troops is hardly the only ground protection of the Hmeimim base. Russian military assistance, including provision of heavy equipment, munitions, and military planners and advisers, has returned the Syrian Arab Army to an effective fighting condition. In addition, the Syrian army is no longer the only military force defending Syria. Thanks to Russian diplomatic efforts, several Syrian opposition groups have joined the government forces in their struggle against the extremists. Likewise the Kurdish units which in the past waged their own uncoordinated struggle against ISIS have now been fully incorporated into the Russian-led coalition in return for Syrian government’s political concessions. There is also a sizable Hezbollah and Iranian presence in Syria. Considering that none of these forces are likely to defect to Turkey in the event of Turkish invasion, and that in some cases they view Turkey as their mortal enemy, the Turkish military would likely not advance very far before suffering heavy losses at the hands of Syria’s defenders. Russian and Syrian long-range weapons now include heavy multiple rocket launchers and Tochka short-range ballistic missiles that would be deadly to Turkish armored columns advancing through narrow mountain paths under the watchful eyes of Russian drones and long-range surveillance aircraft like the Tu-214 and the Il-20.

Even the prospect of the Bosphorus blockade is not as threatening as it once seemed. Syria Express is now mainly concerned with providing consumables like munitions and spare parts to the forces fighting in Syria. In the event Bosphorus were to be blocked, these supplies could be shipped from the Baltic Sea and, in really urgent cases, by air using the traditional Caspian-Iran-Iraq-Syria air route.

In the longer term, it is essential that Russian and Syrian forces punch a corridor through ISIS territory and link up with Iraqi forces, and there are indications that once extremists around Aleppo are neutralized, the next major offensive will be launched in the direction of Raqqa. Doing so would not only break the back of ISIS, but also enable the opening of another overland supply route through the Caspian Sea and Iran. The strength of the Russia-led coalition which seems to have taken all outside observers by surprise is such that it is probably sufficient to deter Turkish military air or ground assault against Syria. While we do not yet know how this happened, it would appear that Moscow was able to outmaneuver Ankara by placing a highly effective military force right under its nose in Syria and reverse the course of the war before Ankara was able to react.

Thanks for sharing.. THis is from a military expert that understands the scope of wars and reality on ground. Anything sakers says is always on point..

The antidote to stoping Russians is don't attack their soldiers. If you do, expert them to react very fast. Turkey and saudi are scape-goats to me. the anglozionist empire will dump them last lastjust like they quickly dumped Saddam hussein after they were supporting him to attack Iran.. Iran became stronger ever since then. NOw what happened to saddam after that ?? He was hannged.. .

These crooks (Turkey,Saudi and the rest ) can't win this war, even if they managed to draw the main puppet masters in U.S, Britain and Israel.

When it comes to nuclear war
one thing is certain and I just wrote this on one youtube vide.. U.s anglozionist empire being the leader of the empire will never sacrifice one state in the U.S for 10 countries in Europe or even 10 in Asia or 6 in middle east.. Just that you guys know what you are talking about..


The erdogan is even confused with its U.S puppet master.. U.S supporting kurds and supporting turkey.. Very contradictory in nature and on ground.

Now there is no more lies to sell to the poeple..

NairaMinted:
Week Nineteen of the Russian Intervention in Syria: would Russia use nukes to defend Khmeimim?




The past week saw no decrease in the tense confrontation between Turkey and Russia over Syria. While Russia’s position is simple – ‘we are ready to fight’ – the Turkish position is much more ambiguous: Turkish politicians are saying one thing, then the opposite and then something else again. At times they make it sound like an invasion is imminent, and at times they say that “Turkey plans no unilateral invasion”. Since a UN authorized invasion of Syria will never happen, this means some kind of “coalition of the willing”, possibly NATO. The problem here is that the Europeans have no desire to end up in a war against Russia. At the same time, the US and France refuse to allow a UN Resolution which would reaffirm the sovereignty of Syria. Yup, that’s right. The US and France apparently think that the UN Charter (which affirms the sovereignty of all countries) does not apply to Syria. Go figure…

There are persistent rumors that top Turkish military commanders, categorically oppose any attack on Syria and that they want no part in a war with Russia. I don’t blame them one bit as they understand perfectly well two simple things: first, Turkey does not need a war, only Erdogan does; second, when Turkey is defeated, Erdogan will blame the military. There are also signs of disagreements inside the USA over the prospects of such a war, with the Neocons backing Erdogan and pushing him towards war just as they had done with Saakashvili while the White House and Foggy Bottom are telling Erdogan to “cool it”. As for the Turks themselves, they have shelled Kurdish and Syrian positions across the border and, on at least two occasions, a small military force has been seen crossing the border.

From a purely military point of view, it makes absolutely no sense for the Turks to mass at the border, declare that they are about to invade, then stop, do some shelling and then only send a few little units across the border. What the Turks should have done was to covertly begin to increase the level of readiness of their forces then and then attacked as soon as Russians detected their preparations even if that meant that they would have to initiate combat operations before being fully mobilized and ready. The advantages of a surprise attack are so big that almost every other consideration has to be put aside in order to achieve it. The Turks did the exact opposite: they advertised their intentions to invade and once their forces were ready, they simply stopped at the border and began issuing completely contradictory declarations. This makes absolutely no sense at all.

What complicates this already chaotic situation is that Erdogan is clearly a lunatic and that there appears to the at least the possibility of some serious infighting between the Turkish political leaders and the military.

Furthermore, there appears to be some very bad blood between the USA and the Erdogan regime. Things got so bad that Erdogan’s chief adviser, Seref Malkoc, said that Turkey might deny the US the use of the Incirlik Air Base for strikes against ISIL if the US does not name the YPG as a terrorist group. Erdogan later repudiated this statement, but the fact remains that the Turks are now directly blackmailing the USA. If Erdogan and his advisors seriously believe that they can publicly blackmail a superpower like the USA then their days are numbered. At the very least, this kind of irresponsible outbursts shows that the Turks are really crumbling under the pressure they themselves have created.

Still, the fact that Turkey has not invaded yet is a tiny minute sign that maybe, just maybe, the Turks will give up on this crazy notion or that they will limit themselves to a ‘mini-invasion’ just a few miles across the border. The military would probably prefer such a minimal face saving option, but what about Erdogan and the crazies around him?

Maybe the Turkish military ought to realize that the country is ruled by the madman and do something about it?

Still, the Russians are taking no chances and they have put all their forces into high alert. They have very publicly dispatched a Tu-214r – her most advanced ISR (Intelligence Surveillance Reconnaissance) aircraft. You can think of the Tu-214R as an “AWACS for the ground”, the kind of aircraft you use to monitor a major ground battle (the regular Russian A-50Ms are already monitoring the Syrian airspace). In southern Russia, the Aerospace forces have organized large-scale exercises involving a large number of aircraft which would be used in a war against Turkey: SU-34s. The Airborne Forces are ready. The naval task forces off the Syrian coast is being augmented. The delivery of weapons has accelerated. The bottom line is simple and obvious: the Russians are not making any threats – they are preparing for war. In fact, by now they are ready.

This leaves an important question to be asked: what would the Russians do if their still relatively small force in Syria is attacked and over-run by the Turks? Would the Russian use nuclear weapons?

At least one reporter, Robert Parry, as written the following: “A source close to Russian President Vladimir Putin told me that the Russians have warned Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan that Moscow is prepared to use tactical nuclear weapons if necessary to save their troops in the face of a Turkish-Saudi onslaught”. Is that really possible? Would the Russians really use nuclear weapons of things get ugly in Syria?

The Russian Military Doctrine is very clear on the use of nuclear weapons by Russia. This is the relevant paragraph:

27. The Russian Federation reserves the right to use nuclear weapons in response to the use against her and (or) her allies of nuclear and other weapons of mass destruction, as well as in the case of aggression against the Russian Federation with the use of conventional weapons in a way which would threaten her very existence as a state. The decision to use nuclear weapons is taken by the President of the Russian Federation.
There is no ambiguity here. Unless Russia is threatened as a state she will not use nuclear weapons. Some will, no doubt, say that the official military doctrine is one thing, but the reality in Syria is another one and if the Turks overrun Khmeimim Russia will have no other option than to use nukes. There is a precedent for that kind of logic: when the US deployed the 82nd Airborne in Saudi Arabia as part of Desert Shield the Pentagon fully understood that if the much larger Iraqi army invaded Saudi Arabia the 82nd would be destroyed. It was hoped that the USAF and USN could provide enough air sorties to stop the Iraqi advance, but if not it was understood that tactical nuclear weapons would be used. The situation in Syria is different.

For one thing, the Russian task force in Syria is not an infantry tripwire force like the 82nd in Iraq. The terrain and the opposing forces are also very different. Second, the Russian contingent in Syria can count on the firepower and support of the Russian Navy in the Caspian and Mediterranean and the Russian Aerospace Forces from Russia proper. Last but not least, the Russians can count in the support of the Syrian military, Iranian forces, Hezbollah and, probably, the Syrian Kurds who are now openly joining the 4+1 alliance (Russia, Iran, Iraq, Syria and Hezbollah) turning it into a 4+2 alliance I suppose.

There is one important feature of this 4+2 alliance which ought to really give the Turks a strong incentive to be very careful before taking any action: every member of this 4+2 alliance has an extensive military experience, a much better one than the Turkish military. The modern Turkish military is much more similar to the Israeli military in 2006 – it has a great deal of experience terrorizing civilians and it is not a force trained to fight “real” wars. There is a very real risk for the Turks that if they really invade Syria they might end up facing the same nightmare as the Israelis did when they invaded Lebanon in 2006.

In the meantime, the Russian backed Syrian forces are still advancing. Since the beginning of their counter-offensive the Syrians have succeeded in recapturing all of the strategic locations in western Syria in slow and incremental steps and they are now threatening Raqqa. See for yourself:



The bottom line is this: the size and capabilities of the Russian task force in Syria has been expanding and the level of collaborations between the elements of the 4+2 alliance has been increasing. Add to this the capability to deploy a regimental-size (and fully mechanized) Airborne force in Latakia if needed, and you will begin to see that the Turks would be taking a major risk if they attacked Russian forces even if Russia does not threaten the use of tactical nukes. In fact, I don’t see any scenario short of a massive US/NATO attack under which Russia would use her tactical nuclear weapons.

Frankly, this situation is far from resolved. It is no coincidence that just when a ceasefire was supposed to come into effect two terrorist attacks in Turkey are oh-so-conveniently blamed on the Kurds. It sure looks like somebody is trying hard to set Turkey on a collision course with Russia, doesn’t it?

Making predictions about what the Turks and their Saudi friends will do makes no sense. We are clearly dealing with two regimes which are gradually “losing it”: they are lashing out at everybody (including their US patrons), they are terrified of their own minorities (Kurds and Shia) and their propensity for violence and terror is only matched by their inability in conventional warfare. Does that remind you of somebody else?

Of course! The Ukronazis fit this picture perfectly. Well, guess what, they are dreaming of forming an anti-Russian alliance with the Turks now. Amazing no? Just imagine what a Ukrainian-Turkish-Saudi alliance would look like: a real life “Islamo-Fascist” gang of thugs combining hateful fanaticism, corruption, violence, strident nationalism and military incompetence. A toxic combination for sure, but not a viable one.

The Saker

making sense though but those neocons in the u.s will not reason with these realities..
the funniest thing is.. they need another 2 billion to beef up arms in eastern europe.. they forget how cruise missiles detroyed the terrorist stock piles in syria.. they will never learn..

bonechamberlain:
Putin has said it times without number, Russia only a madman would lead his country to war with nato, which Turkey is part of. but with the way things are turning turkey might be abandoned, though their officials are singing a different tune about the downing of Russia's jet. no country would ever use nuclear weapons. a conventional war with turkey would take Russia just 7days and turkey is finished.

in russia's military doctrine, it can use nukes to pin point large targets and destroy it.. not like the crazy u.s bombed japan..
russia explained it in its military doctrine.. even its latest or upgraded grads, it uses hydrogen to kill..
meaning if u are within range where the Grad multiple rocket launcher system is being fired... it could choak u to death.

I don't think Russia will need to use nukes. They can just use regular bombs + give Syrians more grads:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSHjqeHw1Xs


If you follow what happened in eastern Ukraine with the 'separatists' novorossians and their grads under guidance from Russian advisors, they obliterated entire tank battalions from afar while shooting down about 13 Ukrainian jets left and right. And all this with Russia "not being in Ukraine".

If a bunch of untrained 'separatists' novorossians (Newrussia) with Russian training/control can defeat the Ukrainian army which had US backing and support, what can the actual Russian army do to a bunch of backwards ass retarded "soldiers" from these idiot countries?

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making another crazy step..venezeula is a strong country and could back selling its oil in gold reserve instead of this washinton hegemonic economic policy... Only a country like Libya and Nigeria get scared like hell to to change such moves..

The smartest move would be start selling your major export in gold reserves while you continue to dedolarize.. oil reserve that is highly volatile should not be backing your economy.oil is the only econmic tool the hegemon has against you.

the moment you change that, you have changed the lives of your people..

vedaxcool:
Omo ale is what your dad pronounce you to be after he discovered you were a gratuitous liar for hire and drunken imbeci.1, a failure at 40 and a fool for life. A mor.on who engages in lying for a foreign country who will stone his black behind at any provocation is a mor0n too stewpid for his own good. Please report me to SS, they will be a better more intelligent persons to discuss with than an ingrate, double faced, lying scumbag like yourself!

Boko haram Terrorist head honcho recruiter, get some cooked brains.. Cos no one will fall for your trap. I am gathering more of your moves and all the places you have posted.

It will be like magic to you when you are being rooted out.

vedaxcool:
Gratuitous liar for hire, agent of the slavizionist empire, what new deals is Putin making with Netanyahu?

boko haram terrorist recruiter for wahhabism terrorist institution backed by anglozionist falling empire, you should stop typing already.

Nigerians please be careful when you read from this type of person.