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Buharists cry to high heavens when soldiers are sentenced to death for aiding boko haram but their master wasted the lives of 40 soldiers without trial for allegedly plotting a coup. Worse still, he was still kicked out by a coup a year later after wasting those innocent lives.
What can be more clueless than that?
Modified: thank God and the moderators for front page.
More revealing articles on my profile
New York Times 1984 Article On Buhari's
Tribalism
www.nairaland.com/2103000/new-york-times-1984-article
www.nytimes.com/1984/05/27/weekinreview/religion-and-kinship-still-cut-deeply-in-africa.html
My search on New York times archives was inspired by this article by Kenai
Nigeria started refining oil abroad under Buhari
www.nairaland.com/2102764/revealed-it-under-buharis-regime
www.nytimes.com/1984/03/14/business/brazil-wins-nigeria-pact.html
Buhari CHANGED Nigerian Press from being the freest in Africa to most restricted in the world
www.nairaland.com/2103110/buhari-turned-nigerian-press-freest
www.nytimes.com/1984/12/21/world/press-freedom-withers-report-says.html

Even America knew of Buhari's tribalism in 1984
www.nairaland.com/2103000/new-york-times-1984-article#2103000.2
Buhari killed over 40 soldiers for plotting a coup but was still ousted by a coup less a year later. Clueless man
www.nairaland.com/2103030/buhari-executed-40-soldiers-plotting

Nigerians be very careful. A look through New York times archive of articles around the period Buhari was in power shows how people were clamouring for change before he came, how there was joy on the streets when he took over, how joy began to give way for despair within months of Buhari's reign, how despair gave way for anguish and pain and how Nigerians began to clamour for the good old days less than one year into Buhari's regime.
Let us not make the same mistake again.
http://query.nytimes.com/search/sitesearch/#/buhari/since1851/allresults/1/allauthors/oldest/

RELIGION AND KINSHIP STILL CUT DEEPLY IN
AFRICA By CLIFFORD D. MAY Published: May 27, 1984
Last month, in the Guinean capital of Conakry, an old woman leaned across a restaurant table and whispered: ''A storm is brewing, I tell you. The Susu and the Fula are plotting against the Malinke.'' Within eight hours, a coup d'etat had overthrown a political structure that had endured for the past quarter century. In the Nigerian capital of Lagos a few weeks later, a
critic of the civilian Government overthrown by the military New Year's Eve confided: ''The Yorubas and the Ibos are beginning to say that maybe the problem is not whether soldiers or civilians are in charge, but the fact that either way it's the Fulanis who hold all the power.''
And a few days ago in Yaounde, where several
hundred Moslem northerners are facing trial on charges of participating in an attempt last month to overthrow President Paul Biya, who is a Christian from the south, a university student was asked to name the issue that threatened his country most. ''Conflict between tribes, religions and regions,'' he said without hesitation. ''That's the biggest problem
by far.'' Of the many forces that buffet the people of Africa, the frictions between people of the same citizenship but different cultural, linguistic or religious backgrounds appear to be playing a significant role in virtually every African country where there is turmoil. Traditional forms of identification and allegiance appear to be on the rise. ''When you have a contracting economic pie, as you do in Africa, there's going to be increased competition,'' William Foltz, a Yale University political scientist, noted. ''And that competition is likely to break out along the lines of the relevant social units, which in this part of the world largely means along tribal or ethnic lines.'' The social and political communities that rose and fell over the centuries ranged from tiny villages of related clans in the isolation of central Africa's rain forests to the elaborate kingdoms and empires of ancient west Africa. If there has been one common denominator, it is allegiance based far more on kinship than on geography. The modern boundaries of Africa are mainly derived from the colonial partitions imposed by European powers in the latter part of the 19th century. Such partitions were declared to be national borders beginning in the late 1950's despite the fact that, with few exceptions, the peoples gathered within them had neither a language nor a culture in common aside from those
inherited from the colonial power. A generation later, tribal or ethnic allegiance is still a thorny question for Africa's leaders. To give it attention, many believe, risks encouraging further sectarian conflicts. The differences between peoples can be as vast as, for example, in Sudan, where the recent imposition of Islamic law by rulers from the Islamic north has set off a rebellion among
the southern tribes, who hold Christian and
traditional faiths. In many cases, however, the
differences may be more subtle. Sometimes the
issue boils down to which people - or tribe or
religious group - is to hold power. Under President Ahmed Sekou Toure, who ruled
Guinea from independence in 1958 until his death two months ago, almost all the key government posts had been held by members of the Malinke tribe, to the resentment of the Susu and Fula populations.
In Nigeria, too, where a war was fought in the late
1960's to prevent the Ibos from seceding and
forming a nation called Biafra, the new military
leadership has exhibited considerable sensitivity
on the subject of ethnicity. Several Nigerian
journalists have lost their jobs for questioning whether there was an example of tribal
discrimination in the fact that former President
Shehu Shagari - a Housa-Fulani like the new head of state, Gen. Mohammed Buhari - had been placed under house arrest while former Vice President Alex Ekueme, an Ibo, had been detained in a maximum security prison.
But even the strictest taboos on discussing ethnicity
and its ramifications are unlikely to make the issue
go away, any more than Africa's nation-states will
step aside in favor of the traditional bonds. A more
probable scenario is that over time, such
identifications may simply become overlayed or clouded by other allegiances. For example, about 20 percent of Cameroon's population come from an area that was colonized
by Britain rather than France and most of them, no matter what their tribe, now identify themselves as English speaking regardless of how well they learn to speak French. ''We Anglophones have been oppressed by the Francophones here,'' a Cameroonian professor charged. ''And oppression anywhere in the world only makes a people cling even more fiercely to their identifications.'' But a
sense of allegiance to country may be developing.
''When Cameroon won the Africa cup in soccer this year,'' the professsor said, ''I cheered and cheered.
I won't deny it
www.nytimes.com/1984/05/27/weekinreview/religion-and-kinship-still-cut-deeply-in-africa.html

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Yorubas are so obsessed with oil that doesn't belong to them

I envy Tinubu

Mr Gboyega Oyetola, the Chief of Staff to Gov. Rauf Aregbesola of Osun, on Friday disclosed that the budget for the Governor’s Office for 2015 is N18,645,514,610. Oyetola disclosed this in Osogbo, while defending the budget of the Governor’s Office before the House Committee on Finance and Appropriation. According to him, ‘’N6,925,000,000 is for recurrent expenditure and its capital expenditure is proposed at the sum of N11,720,514,610. ‘’The budget size for the year represents a 36.13 per cent reduction in the size of the budget for year 2014,’’ Oyetola explained. He said the Office of the Governor proposed to raise N3,025,000,000 as revenue through tender fees, registration of contractors, capital receipts and from other sources. According to Oyetola, N1,159,000,000 is expected to be expended on salaries, allowances and other remuneration of career officers and political office holders in the Office of the Governor. The sum of N3,775,000,000 is expected to be spent on general administration of bureaus and agencies in the Office of the Governor, as part of overhead costs. The payment of salaries to the Governor, the Deputy Governor, Judges, the State Independent Electoral Commission and others would gulp N2billion. Reports showed that N11,720,514,610 was proposed to cater for the execution and implementation of projects and programmes of agencies and bureaus in the Office of the Governor. The chairman, House Committee on Finance and Appropriation, Mr Kamil Oyedele, promised that the house would give the budget a critical and
accelerated consideration and passage. Oyedele also appreciated the House for their
patience during the presentation and defence of the budget by the Ministries, Departments and Agencies (MDAs). Reports also had it that the House of Assembly ended the week-long presentation and hearing of budgets by the MDAs in the state on Friday.
www.vanguardngr.com/2015/01/aregbesola-run-office-n18-6-billion-2015/

jasper7:
Another experience is with fulani cattle rearers who just decided to let their cattle feed on one innocent farmer's plot. I used to consult for the farmer and there was no just way to control those cattle so she had to shut down her little source of income . So... If you have goats and cattle parading your farmland and it's not fenced, cucumber is not just for you

I was enjoying the thread until I got to this part, it just spoilt my mood. What are we going to do about these Fulani cattle rearers for God's sake?
Does it mean that we will start having regular clashes with them like the middle belt when we (South east) go back fully into agriculture?
What is the solution?

@ teufelein please how do you check people's IP addresses? I need to learn it.
Thanks

saintikechi:
it is obvious that buhari is one of the boko haram's political leaders.




GEJ TILL. 2019.

He and the others instead of supporting the government in tackling the menace, saw it as an opportunity to ride on to power.
Now it has spiralled out of control

One of the biggest topics dominating the discuss surrounding the upcoming elections is the failure of the incumbent government to shackle boko haram. One thing we have to remember on the fore-front of criticising the President are the same people that were criticising him when boko haram was being dealt with decisively.
The opposition Presidential candidate General Buhari who is now promising Nigerians that he has what it takes to fight and defeat boko haram, but we have to remember that just over a year ago when the terrorists were being dealt with decisively, Buhari was up in arms calling the FG biased for fighting boko haram instead of pampering and giving them money like the Niger Delta militants.
Buhari faults crackdown on Boko Haram
www.punchng.com/news/joining-apc-not-about-2015-presidency-buhari/
Buhari: Military Offensive against Boko Haram, Anti-north
www.thisdaylive.com/articles/buhari-military-offensive-against-boko-haram-anti-north/149256/

How is it that the same man who was so much against the killing of boko haram members is now promising Nigerians that he will defeat them and no one is asking questions?

Northern elders also accused the President and his former Chief of Army staff of genocide for killing boko haram members when the army was on the offensive against them.....now the same President is called weak and incompetent.
www.vanguardngr.com/2014/01/northern-elders-drag-ihejirika-6-others-icc-bama-deaths/
www.premiumtimesng.com/news/153649-ex-army-chief-ihejirika-tackles-ungrateful-northern-elders-calls-prosecution.html

Being fully aware of the volatile and fragile nature of Nigeria, the President had to soft pedal in the midst of opposition from powerful northerners, the army took a back seat and began fighting boko haram on reactionary instead of proactive basis.
The unfortunate result was that boko haram was afforded the time to go back, regroup and come out even stronger, the result is what we are seeing now.

Summary: The President fights boko haram, gets accused of genocide and hatred for the north, he takes a defensive approach against them, gets accused of lack of concern for the north, incompetence and weakness ...... by the same people!
A very very bad precedent has been set and there is no easy way out of it. If Buhari wins and boko haram activities somehow ceases, the accusations of him sponsoring the group in order to rise to power will surface, if he comes in and fights boko haram will full force, he will be reminded of his comments when the former President was doing the same and the northern elders who cried genocide then will be asked for comments.
Nigeria is not one.

You can as well say all law abiding Nigerians lack integrity for asking him to follow laid down procedures.

No vacancy in Aso rock, not a single space on the ground.
If you throw a pin there, it will land on someone's head.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7JpeKLIAAE-YPY.jpg

Yorubas love GEJ so much
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7JpLvXIUAAbhQX.jpg

Lalasticlala are you not going to take the thread to the front page again? Or is it because the first set of comments didn't favour Apc?
Seun hope you are seeing this.

All these things happen in a supposedly sophiscated region.

oduastates:
A village like this 50's lagos?

It was occupied by colonial masters then.
Check pictures of Oshogbo or Abeokuta for a better idea of what the man means.

success9:
My brother, the truth be told, the Ibos are the most disorganised politically. I was seriously hoping that they lobby for and get the running-mate ticket of the APC at all cost. Amaechi would have been rejected by the Ibos and so would have been Rochas...however, there is an Ngige whom I believe showed no interest. Moreover, those that can actually lobby are few and far between.

More so, no one knows how the Ibos will react... Will it bring sympathy to APC? Hence, the best bet is to solidify the West. But then, I wanted an Ibo vice that will most likely take over after Buhari (if he wins) in 2019/2023.

The Ibos should start thinking outside of their region...make alliances...start having ambitions (something APGA is a failure at). How do they campaign for Jona by the way?

The Ibos should wake up politically, achieve their aims strategically rather than cry foul or try to bully which has not worked for them till date.

Yorubas always giving advice to the Igbos lol.
It is beginning to look like you guys need an Igbo President more than even Igbos themselves.
Be rest assured, you cannot blackmail Igbos into voting Buhari with all these yeye permutations.
The same guys that always accuse Igbos of tribalism are always the first to talk about Igbo President.

oziegbe2015:
my brother i tire o! Somebody that supports u and he can scope the zone a little becos of igbo cult fellowship of priest. Na now wen the guy is beign of help dem go kill am.

That cult followership will make GEJ lose many Igbo and even christian votes across Nigeria if he is killed. Only APC can do that, they stand to benefit the most.

Fashola is it your oil?
Yoruba people have too much long throat for oil.
Little wonder they are ready to die for one Nigeria.

GEJ is used to criticism and has proved that unlike Obasanjo, he isn't interested in assasinating political opponents or critics.
If anyone would want to kill Father Mbaka now, it is APC and their agents in order to score points.
GEJ cannot be foolish enough to send people after than man's life knowing the effect such an action would have.
If anything, the President should beef up Mbaka's security now. APC are dangerous and can do anything to get that power. If they can ride on boko haram's back despite the thousands they have killed, Mbaka is too small for them.

tobtap:
i get your point,i think nigerians are behind jonathan,but people dont trust him as a capable c in c because of the way he has been handling the issue of bokoharam and the way he handled the chibok girls matter.that is my opinion...nigerians just want someone bullish about the security of nigeria.

Should he handle it the Gowon way? I mean kill and rape thousands like the Chibok girls, bombard residential areas in the north, starve and kill women and children and supervise the death of 3 million Northerners at the end?

tobtap:
shekau is not the president of nigeria....jonathan is the president so the blame goes to him

Was Ojukwu the President of Nigeria?

tobtap:
i wont go into insults like u,but as far as i know,ojukwu was wrong.u dont just declare a session of the nation independent like that and expect the central govt not to act and defend it territory...ojukwu caused the death of millions during the war due to his personal ambition

So why is Jonathan being blamed now and not Shekau?

tobtap:
ojukwu was the rebel and he declared a part of nigeria territory independent without the national govt approval....so gowon was right in fighting for the unity of nigeria which unfortunately led to innocent deaths on all sides

So you have no problem if everyone in Gwoza, Damboa etc gets killed and starved because Shekau declared the place an Islamic caliphate?

2undexy:
u no see well...he said d only thing he knows hw 2 do is quote

That comment wasn't a quote na.

2undexy:
firstly, if u want 2 comment, just afta d Op's topic, scrool down a bit nd u will see a 'REPLY' icon...then u click on it.

Nd concerning creation of topic, click on any forum on the frontpage, it mayb celebrities,politics,education etc...afta clicking, scrool down a bit nd u wld see "CREATE A NEW TOPIC", click on it and u re good 2 go.

You funny o!
You didn't ask him how he managed to make that particular comment.
You go easy to scam o.

These people should always try to specifically address the attention seeking individuals or tiny groups involved in this whenever such an issue comes up.
Stop lumping all Igbos into this nonsense.
99.99999999999999% of Igbos do not give a damn about their agitations.