₦airaland Forum

Chido26:
Obi is far better than Tinubu, Obi remains the only Governor who performed and saved for the future. Tinubu left defts and is still reaping the Lagos State dry through his company Alfa beta, still installs govorners till date as the ultimate godfather. To you that's okay, to us with conscience it's wrong. A sentenced drug kingpin is who you are comparing with PO, may the case of funsho Williams be your portion. While Southwest was known in the past for Western education initiated by Awolowo, today Southwest is known for thuggery, drug addicts and touts, a legacy of your mentor and Saviour. According to OP the better manager is Obi and the reasons is because Obi met a State with high debt profile, cleared the debts and left over 75billion in banks for his successor. Something no one has done in Africa.

Obi saved the states fund in the same bank he was the chairman.
Obi invested the state funds into the same company his family have shares.


Can you prove that Alpha-Beta belongs to Tinubu?
Any evidence Tinubu kill Funsho Williams?
Any proof of conviction against Tinubu?
Obi has been detained in 2 airports Enugu and London...

Brendaniel:
Goofluck Jonathan, Yaradua and if you are talking about party, there was no strong oppostion to PDP all that while till 2015 and the candidate APC presented was a no no for us, and he proved us right....

In 1999 AD contest the election
In 2003 APGA with Ojukwu also contest but SE has always been voting PDP..

Brendaniel:
We voted based on competence, tell me which tribe Igbos have not voted for before and I will tell you the tribes Yoruba has not voted for, we even voted for OBJ against Ojukwu, Which Igbo man has the Yorubas voted for in Nigeria?

SE voted PDP as a party.. Can you tell us any other presidential candidate that the SE gave 35% of their votes since 1999 till date?

Sharpsharp00123:
shortgun

Abeg answer this question

He will still come up with some imaginary achievements of Obi.... Same Obi who can't establish any of his private investments in his state.

jasent:
You stylishly mentioned IGR because your man tinubu can task people. All the awards being won by Anambra students as a result of Obi's legacy means nothing to you. Continue to argue blindly

You said anambra students winning awards is as a result of Obi's legacy? Please how many public school students in Anambra won awards? Don't claim achievements of private schools as Governments...

Please can you dispute this facts?

1)Eko Atlantic city
2)Lekki Free trade zone
4) Establishment of Lastma
5) Establishment of KAI
6) Construction of Millenium schools in all LGAs and LCDAs..
7)Creation of 37 LCDAs
cool Introduction of Contributory Pension Scheme ( The FG and some states later copy this same template till date)..
This are just few i can mention and please if there is any I lied about dispute it with fact.

shortgun:
Is not everyone that will be deceived with lies and concocted claims of profeciency in governance.

Comparing Lagos state to any other state in Nigeria in terms of revenue generation and income is what is called False equivalence; this is a fallacy that occurs when someone incorrectly asserts that two things are equivalent, simply because they share some characteristics, despite the fact that there are notable differences between them.
Lagos is the most industrialised city in Nigeria and sub-Sahara Africa.

It is the fourth biggest economy in Africa by Gross Domestic Product (GDP).
Lagos seaport is one of the continents busiest and biggest with lots of importation and exportation activities.
A 10 year old will govern Lagos state and it will still be the highest revenue generating state in Nigeria!

Aside, Revenue generation you Tinubu supporters can't point out any other thing Tinubu did in Lagos.
If Tinubu is that good as you guys claim why is he not replicating the same formula that worked in Lagos for Nigeria?

At the bolded here are some response for you..
1)Eko Atlantic city
2)Lekki Free trade zone
4) Establishment of Lastma
5) Establishment of KAI
6) Construction of Millenium schools in all LGAs and LCDAs..
7)Creation of 37 LCDAs
Introduction of Contributory Pension Scheme ( The FG and some states later copy this same template till date)..
This are just few i can mention and please if there is any I lied about dispute it with fact.

Please mention 5 things Obi did during his 8 years that Anambra is still benefiting from it till date....

Brendaniel:
Give Tinubu Zamfara to govern for 8 years and see if he will do anything special, shebi he is the president now, look at the flops he is already making, anybody can govern Lagos and will be called a performer, why I don't want to go into details here is because it is not the focus of the topic, I don't want to deviate, the question is will you give your friend your father's company to handle if he did what Tinubu did?

You see how myopic you're.... except you're playing ethnic games you can not point to one thing that Obi did that made him better than Tinubu...

ubest1:
Ur comparison has no meaning because u can't even compare Lagos with Abuja & Rivers. you can only compare both on human capital development not by IGR

Okay please can you give reasons Obi's 8 years is better in human capital development than Tinubu's 8 years as a governor?

EmperorCaesar:
U killed him on his own thread bro

Obidients cant handle logical argument...They will chicken out

We will continue to correct them... Some can still change for good...

Brendaniel:
Obi is 1000 times better, infact the worst governor of the south east since 1999 is better than Tinubu, Tinubu and Fashola have proved that anybody can rule Lagos and they will call him a performer...

You are letting your emotions to becloud your common sense.... Why can't you provide a valid point to prove that Obi is a better Governor than Tinubu... Both men govern their state for 8 years and by now you should be able to tell the world things Obi did that made him better than Tinubu if not most of the propagandas your people are circulating about him....

OP let's be serious and leave bias or politics out of this... Both Tinubu and Obi spent 8 years as Governor can you please tell us who is a better governor between the 2?

What legacy projects or investments the 2 left in their states that the state is still making huge dividends from?

How did the 2 of them met their states IGR, and what did they do to generate more revenue for their respective states?

After answering these questions then you should know who you will employ to manage your fathers moribund company,

Now Obi won 3 states in SW. But nothing like that was mentioned at the tribunal. How come all of a sudden you people don’t want to see the Yorubas as tribal bigots anymore? 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

Especially the LP NASS members who won election with a campaign of doing the right thing..... They all went mute when it comes to sharing money....

gidgiddy:
Yes he Ironsi made decree 34. But the decree did not abolish the Regions. Why do you think Gowon came in after Ironsi and still met the same 4 Regions as Ironsi?

Why do you think Murtala Mohammed came after Gowon and met 12 states

Dont let peopke lie to you that Ironsi removed Regionalism with decree 34, do your own research

Continue with the half truth propaganda... You can believe what suit your theory..

gidgiddy:
When Gowon came in, there were 4 Regions. By the time Gowon was kicked out, we had 12 states

So who do you think removed the Regions?

Oga you keep on promoting this half truth.... Ironsi abolished the regional system of government..... he made decree 34 in May 1967 and Gowon came to power July 1967....

Beremx:
Ogbeni LegendHero, how can you hate Igbos and like only Soludo?
But seriously, the agberoism in Lagos is legendary. It's nauseating and worrisome. The picture below is the depiction of what danfo drivers face daily. I have never lived in Anambra state so I can't tell

If you've been to the east you will know that those agberos in lagos are lenient compared to those in the east...

Penguin2:
How is it any of your business?

Do you feed me?

I’ll rather feed a dog than waste food on you.

danijesus:
national overvoting evidence was presented before the tribunal by the math professor

Don’t be a clown . A professor of maths that rely on just IREV 18,000 faded printout. Out of over 176,000 polling units.

People who are surprised on the level of Obaseki’s betrayal need to do more research on his Great Grand father who betrayed the exiled Oba of Benin.
Betrayal is in his bloodline.

danijesus:
When the overvoting polling units are cancelled more than 4000 of them,and the actual score of Rivers and benue is gotten coupled with the 18,088 blurred polling units that have been reconciled with the actual form ec8a results given to LP agents,then you discovered that Obi actually won the highest number of lawful vote cast..the only problem is if he actually had the 25 percentage spread in 24 state of the federation. A rerun likely!

Can you show us where Obi prove over voting? Or that the 18,000 IREV blurred results affect the results on form EC8A?

Penguin2:
You must be seeing Igbos in your sleep every night. Must be very torturous!

Is it an Igbo man that owns Gray Zone? A UK 🇬🇧 Newspaper.

Did you see the authors of the article, is any of them Igbo?

Did Igbos send Tinubu to do drugs?

Or was it Igbos that took him to court and made him forfeit proceeds of his criminality?

How did Igbos come into the discourse, sir?

Is this how you want to spend your next 8 years?

If confusion is a human being then we don’t have to search further.

OP you’re economical with the truth.
1) GRV himself said it on live TV AriseTV that he doesn’t think in Yoruba.
2) GRV was always calling those against him on social media a particular name that the Yorubas find derogatory ( using a goat picture with inscription of AFONJA).
3) GRV has been and is still a supporter of a proscribed group. He supported IPOB with his tweets.
He never apologized for all his act against the same people he want to govern.
Look at the Soji guy at the Senate how he apologize when the Senate brought up his past tweets against the government and nation.
See the difference between him and GRV.

Odin13:
And what’s worth viewing in Yoruba land ?

Aside bitterness and abject hatred.. we see everyday from you all

Tell me what’s worth viewing in Yoruba ..

Your people are still rushing to the SW with night buses on a daily basis. You know why people like will continue to attract hatred to your tribe? You don’t want to accept that other tribes and regions are ahead of your mud landlocked region. Don’t come and mention streams as ocean for us.

garfield1:
Exactly.worst case is a rerun in 18000 units.if they say fct is mandatory,then they will apply the awo-shagari formula

There can not be a rerun in any 18,000 units so far there are result sheets and all the parties are in custody of the results.... Why can't Obi lawyers prove that the results from those 18,000 polling units are not with them?

Can you show us achievements in life?

MadamExcellency:
Nowhere in the world does a court have any right to stop impeachment. It's purely a legislative matter. There should be a separation of powers where the Executive, Legislature and Judiciary works do not interfere with one another based on the Constitution.

A court can only void impeachment if the procedure doesn't comply with extant laws not stopping the procedure.

A court can stop process of impeachment if it didn’t follow the constitution. Atiku vs Obasanjo and Nass 2007.

Kukutente23:
And how exactly do you intend to sack the coupists without getting into a war when they are the ones in govt presently.
You must be naive to rejoice over the terrorist attack on Mali soldiers. Do you think ISIL will fight on the side of Nigeria against those countries that have 96% Muslim population? Nigeria will be viewed as a worse enemy by the terrorists who will recruit and activate more cells in Nigeria.
A word is enough for the wise.

Laurent Gbagbo style. The citizens dancing now will soon start stoning the military when they start dealing with them.

EhisChelsea1:
Some of you just open your mouth and spill absolute rubbish. What made Oshiomhole bad and horrible? As a labour leader, he was exceptional and is still regarded as Nigeria’s best and most proactive Labour leader til date.

As a governor, he is regarded as the best governor Edo State have had since the creation of the state. So, what exactly make him a bad and horrible person? Ozwor somebody

Did you have comprehension problem or you can’t read simple English? I wrote that no matter how bad or horrible a person Oshiomhole might be, he didn’t deserve the treatment he got from Shuaibu. Oshiomhole made him who he is today. Nobody can be perfect, Obaseki and Shuaibu painted Oshiomhole as a bad person forgetting the good things he did for them. I hope you will be able to get my point now and understand it better.

JDJDjD:
The same shaibu stood behind Oshiomole when the PDP dominated house of assembly wanted to impeached him
It was even Shaibu that led the fight in the house that removed the speaker then
He orchestrated everything. He played the politics that made Fred omogberai to decamped to AC then and made speaker.
He has paid his dues before he started reaping from it.
What happened between him and Oshiomole was clear politics. Oshiomole went too far

Before talking about what Shuaibu did in the house of Assembly. Can you tell the world how he got to house of assembly in the first place?

MichaelSokoto:
u have changed d narrative 4rm wat d other fella was arguing wit me about

Whatever Shuaibu becomes as at today is through Oshiomhole. Adams sponsored his education in Unijos where he became the SUG president. Same Adams sponsored him to House of assembly and also house of reps. Adams nominated him as deputy to Obaseki even when people are against his nomination because he is from the same place with Adams. And in the end he betrayed the man that did all those for him.
Please tell me which is not through in all I mention.