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Politics › Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by SEFAGO(m): 7:36pm On Dec 28, 2009
Again you miss the point. Many of these resources are only partially exploited, while the vast reserves are still untouched. Those who illegally mine gold in the North already have Oyibo market. They only have to cross the ever-porous northern boarders and bang, the French guys in Chad, Niger, Northern Benin and Cameroon are waiting to pick up the good, and probably give them peanuts. So it is the ABSOLUTE incompetence of our so-called leaders, and not that one region cannot produce anything that plays out here.
Quite speculative. I can bet that these resources are not enough, but thanks for the info.
Politics › Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by SEFAGO(m): 7:34pm On Dec 28, 2009
Ha ol'boy you don come again. Grin
If I throw in Nigerians abroad, the South Africans are no match. You may not believe it but it is true. Moreover, the whites in South Africa are only about 5 million. Compare that to Nigerians. We have almost that number of Nigerians with high level of education. And mind you that not all white South Africans are educated.
Do you really believe your post above? Shows me how much you know about Nigeria.
Ok, I will have to withdraw my statement for other reasons. One being Nigeria's population and second the Northern part of Nigeria skewing literacy statistics.
Politics › Re: Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab: More Like Me In Yemen by SEFAGO(m): 7:28pm On Dec 28, 2009
as long a there are more in yemen and not naija grin grin
Politics › Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by SEFAGO(m): 7:25pm On Dec 28, 2009
t is instructive that South Africa is powered by the skills of the White minority (about 10% of the population).
The problem with Nigeria is that the educated and resourceful Nigerians which are far more than in South Africa are muzzled and forced out of leadership and management of the country, and methinks that tribalism is the reason.
Nigeria is led by a half-baked and mediocre section of the country and that is a fact.
Nigeria is one of the most underdeveloped countries educationally. Check your facts. South Africa whips us hands down
Politics › Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by SEFAGO(m): 7:23pm On Dec 28, 2009
I have in the past posted a link to show that every region of Nigeria has a lot to offer. That was data from Raw Material Research and Developmet Council (RMRDC). However, the last time I checked, the website had some problem (typical anything Nigerian) and that data was no longer available. If I recall, Beef also posted that link sometime after.

For example, as we speak, precious stones are being mined in Oyo state with no obvious remittances to the FGN, whereas oil from other states are shared with Oyo. Same goes for gold in the North. So, Mr Sefago, you appear to be a COMPLETE neophyte in Nigeria's socio-economic matters. That is much obvious with your tortous (sp) arguments.
How much revenue can these supposed raw materials generate. I need to see a fiscal sheet of the possible financial outcomes that could result from these natural resources. Moreover, if Nigeria has significant amount of gold deposit and such why is it that no major mining company has taken opportunity of this (you know oyibo people well)
Politics › Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by SEFAGO(m): 7:17pm On Dec 28, 2009
Bringing it to your doorsteps how did Awolowo run the former western region the way he did?
Why now? I would be polite enough to answer. He ran it on raw materials and resources that were in demand then. As a result of significant technological advances and the other providers you cannot run an economy on cocoa and such nowadays.

I am talking of real development. The Western region+East+North were in no way developed or well-run then. If you call subsitence living development then  shocked.  IMO nigeria was underdeveloped then regardless. Infact we look more modern and prosperous now than in the dark ages.

You need to have something the west needs now before you can grow quickly. Or at least something your neighbors or possible trading partners might need.

On the issue of highly educated class please do not tell me that nigeria does not have highly educated people.The problem is when nigeria's best brains are not residing or want to reside in the country.
Nigeria lacks a lot education wise. Its something we are totally ignorant of but the education levels in Nigeria are abysmal in all regions. A small number of "highly-educated" cannot account for the significant number of uneducated people
Politics › Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by SEFAGO(m): 7:06pm On Dec 28, 2009
There is no need wasting valuable time trying to lecture that neophyte called SEFAGO. Just because his/her high-school teacher commended his/her high-school project as "brilliant", he/she thinks his/her tiny pea-sized brain is larger than Olumo Rock. Imagine such a charlatan claiming a large vocabulary but ignorant of the English word "contrarian". Nonsense!
Hello there. Your contribution was quite inspiring. I am ignorant but who isn't? It is good I learn now than be a fool forever.
Politics › Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by SEFAGO(m): 7:00pm On Dec 28, 2009
Ok found it. Interesting - But this is R&D no oil found yet. I would be wicked pissed myself if they are keeping all that oil money to themselves

I meant to solid oil venture
Politics › Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by SEFAGO(m): 6:55pm On Dec 28, 2009
Sorry, I will not provide any link this time; do the legwork. The best I can do is give you a hint, find out who Gazprom signed a deal with in the North (if it was FG or NNDC).
I thot gazprom's deal was in natural gas- when did oil come to play. Why would a country like Russia want to sign an oil deal with Nigeria?
Politics › Re: Breaking News: Mutallab Family Issues Statement by SEFAGO(m): 6:53pm On Dec 28, 2009
You are scared of your father because you are either a wimp or not mature enough to make your own decisions. I am not scared of my father and that has never made me commit crimes or even think about it. You should love your father and not scared of him. Is he kingkong or what?
Lol, if u were the ones getting the punishment u no go fear. If the guy was hammered by his father consistently na fear go enter am even when he is taking the bomb.

But to some people family name matters a lot and is driven into your mind- some people would think twice about commiting an action because they are scared of the repercussions on their family members. That's my point.

I schooled in a Nigerian public secondary school where it was illegal for teachers to beat up students. The usual punishment was grass cutting.
Not that it wasn't done but it was rare (hardcore cases).
Lucky you.

My life was one constant:
Teacher: you there, what are you doing, why are you not in class, what you are smiling back at me
Me: Ah, no sir, I just went to the bathroom (whack whack whack )
Politics › Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by SEFAGO(m): 6:43pm On Dec 28, 2009
Some people minds are fixed on oil.I wonder if Malaysia,Singapore have oil?

Its really not a good comparison. These countries have a highly educated class and complex economy. They can offer service products that people are willing to pay for.

I really am interested in knowing how other regions would be economically viable states. If someone could enlighten me on how one nigerian region can be self-sufficient I would be really grateful.
Politics › Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by SEFAGO(m): 6:40pm On Dec 28, 2009
The Igbo do the same even outside Nigeria. It is called enterprise. So how can you call that dependence on oil?
Dude honestly I get headaches following your twist and turns in logic which contradict themselves and at the end confuse even yourself.
I follow the ball though. I refuse to be confused by tricksters.  Try another strategy
huh, but thats the point. Mekusxxx claimed self-sufficiency but that isn't true. If you depend in one way from oil what would happen later without it?

You should do thorough homework before joining topics like this. The North has everything, from Gold to tin, from gems to Uranium; they potentially have oil as well, but rather than follow the FG owns your butt methods employed in the ND, they have sold all oil blocks in the North to a privately owned company 100% owned by the North (no FG), Northern Nigeria Development Company (NNDC).
Link
Politics › Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by SEFAGO(m): 6:26pm On Dec 28, 2009
YOU ARE RIGHT
how won't he be right? grin

Anyways, Mekusxxx,I hope you know that economies are sustained in one way or the other. China was initially dependent on Exports and "made in china to drive their economy. Now things are changing and they have become more complex. If there is no way of sustaining them then failure happens. The blessing of oil could have done so  many great things to Nigeria and it would all be a matter of cause and effect. If oil wealth had been used to build major and well funded technology institutes to train people into becoming brilliant engineers, then maybe Nigeria could have been a center for outsourcing today. But that wouldn't remove the fact that this new sector spurned from oil money.
Politics › Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by SEFAGO(m): 6:21pm On Dec 28, 2009
This dude (Sefago) is an unrelenting ignoramus? Who says other parts of Nigeria have nothing to offer? The slowpoke should note the difference between not having anything to offer and not willing to offer anything. The North that we southerners tend to deride is potentially richer than the south in terms of natural resources.
Please tell me what resource the North has to offer?

The East and West are also culpable as both sides have very many different resources but everybody got consumed with the frenzy of oil and forgot that no country survives with a mono-economy. The growth of the SE is hardly dependent on oil money because it is mostly self-made. You may want to check how much oil money comes to the region from the available fiscal data, despite Imo and Abia being oil producers.
Do you know the meaning of trickle-down economics. Example, Alhaji works in an oil company. He sends his daughter to a school owned by an igbo woman who borrowed money from a nigerian bank to set up the school. This nigerian bank was able to borrow her money because of the corrupt individuals who save their money in Nigerian banks. She runs the school very well and requests her students to buy certain things. These things can only be acquired in yaba market. The majority of the people selling stuff in yaba market are igbo. This people make money from their sales. It is in no way linked to oil. The igbo woman sets up other businesses in iboland. These businesses flourish. The customers are people who can afford luxury goods because of industries indirectly linked to oil. No supposed connection to oil. Everything in Nigeria is about oil. Infact the laptop I am using now wouldnt have been purchased if not for oil money- chikena?

All the way to Unilever, Nigerian Breweries e,t.c they all depend in some way from the oil money in Nigeria.

If Alhaji does not hire a houseboy, where will the houseboy get money to buyfanta and biscuit?
Politics › Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by SEFAGO(m): 6:11pm On Dec 28, 2009
Let us not get silly but have fun in bantering. I must admit that writing is very individualistic. The style you will use to phrase sentences can not be similar to mine. By the way, I did not obtained undergraduate and post graduate degrees in Nigeria.
Hhmm , is that supposed to impress me? Anyone can obtain a degree abroad sebi Ghana is now overseas? Anyways that is not the case- this isn't about style it is about clarity and yours comes off as pretentious.

It could be quite irritating to read since it makes you come off as someone who overstates their self-worth. It really looks bad if try and use big words and then use them in the wrong context. Doing so religiously can make someone go nuts.
Politics › Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by SEFAGO(m): 6:06pm On Dec 28, 2009
Pal, any person that has the knack to rewrite or correct essays without the consent or permission of original author usually turns out to be a plagiarizer
Abeg go away, i dont try and be grammatically correct  online anyways I was complaining about your word choice and passive sentence. With all the pidgin I use how can I be judged. Word choice is your problem, I don't check the mechanics of what people type online that is the job of your brother mekusxxx. Grammar doesn't cloud meaning as much as using the wrong word.


The current Nigerian system allows this.
With 100% resource control would any chief be bribed for oil in land that isn't his? There are simple and obvious solutions to our problems.
hmm major problems here , I you suggesting a regional state would be more efficient and less corrupt because all the people are supposedly the "same."

Anyways I partially see your point, in the context of most african nations this would historically not work at all. What exactly is characteristic of the Nigerian system which makes it corrupt that would be lost in a new state? Dont forget corruption is characteristic of all parts of Nigeria though agreed some do it more than others.

You seem to be arguing that we should divide into little pieces, and things would of course work out. The new states would a;; adjust and finally meet an equilibrium.
Politics › Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by SEFAGO(m): 5:54pm On Dec 28, 2009
Are you not the same olodo that wrote a post by disputing contrarian as a word of English Language?
Yes, I have never seen that word before, and my word bank, to say the least is huge. Took my time to find out it was really a word, but judging by your history of using language badly, I cannot be blamed for my statement. Moreover, I just dont like using unnecessary and vague language to prove my point especially when the words I use are a bit of a mismatch.
Politics › Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by SEFAGO(m): 5:49pm On Dec 28, 2009
Nigeria doesn't have a monopoly on corruption as the cases with Halliburton, Siemens and others have proved. Assuming your story is true, why are you not advocating for the prosecution of these oil companies. Sefago please don't insult our intelligence with your a friend of a friends wifes sister in law anecdotes, Please provide evidence.
Sadly i cannot. What you guys call evidence is typically a write up by someone usually a news paper which cannot even be verified or some website. That evidence is really no way different from mine.  Usually the foreign oil companies can only act the way they do with 100% compliance of the Nigerian government + leader in the ND. I mentioned tax department so you would have figured out this isn't a far fetched story because bribing ND chiefs usually have to be accounted for in the tax returns of Corporate companies grin. Mine seems plausible this was some American girl who did not know anything about Nigeria and was assuming I would be as rich as the ND chief she met.
Politics › Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by SEFAGO(m): 5:42pm On Dec 28, 2009
Ok problems worth with fiscal federalism and resource control

1. Corruption- Uptill today the RDS and Chevron Texaco bribes the leader of people from the Niger Delta before they can operate. This is  not speculation. I met this girl whose mother works for the tax department in RDS who was telling me that she met a Niger delta chief or whatever who was boasting about his numerous houses and that his children were in Switzerland, Spain, France- my mouth was just opening in shock Angry. Now imagine if these people are allowed resource control Grin

2. The only major resource available in Nigeria is oil. Other areas have nothing to offer, so how will they grow? The so-called growth of the South-west and the South-east all depends in some part from oil. All the banks in Nigeria are in one way indirectly dependent on oil. Oil drives industry in Nigeria. The South East produces nada, neither does the south west. However the majority of the professionals come from a particular region, moreso than the region which produces oil.  Its really a long winded argument, but the short of it is that in a way Nigeria is a bit more effective as a country than a loose group of states all because of trickle down economics.

Should I be sincere?- I have a feeling the people calling for resource control are people from the south-south and this is not pointing fingers, its it is just common sense

Basically Nigeria is a resource driven economy, and so resource control is really a bit slefish selfish
grin
Politics › Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by SEFAGO(m): 5:31pm On Dec 28, 2009
Man I need panadol
Politics › Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by SEFAGO(m): 5:29pm On Dec 28, 2009
What I meant was that when issue of Biafra the issue of Biafra shows up on this forum, few novices (wrong word choice) will immediately identify such issue (trite and wordy) such idea as that of the Igbo. It is evidential(passive use of language) on this board that many Nigerians had wished wished  that memories of Biafar disappear into the tinny thin air. The Nigerian government hads changed the name of a land mark from bight of Biafra to that of Bonny. But to these those with skewed and centrist views, the voice of contrarian (a person who expresses a contradicting viewpoint, esp. one who denounces the majority persuasion) should not be censored (this doesnt make sense).
cheesy
Politics › Re: Maryam Babangida Is Dead! by SEFAGO(m): 5:14pm On Dec 28, 2009
When will Yar'Adua die,anyone knows?
after you, wait patiently grin
Politics › Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by SEFAGO(m): 5:13pm On Dec 28, 2009
Ok problems worth fiscal federalism and resource control

1. Corruption- Uptill today the RDS and Chevron Texaco bribes the leader of people from the Niger Delta before they can operate. This not speculation. I met this girl whose mother works for the tax department in RDS who was telling me that she met a Niger delta chief or whatever who was boasting about his numerous houses and that his children were in Switzerland, spain, france- my mouth was just opening in shock angry. Now imagine if these people are allowed resource control grin

2. The only major resource available in Nigeria is oil. Other areas have nothing to offer, so how will they grow? The so-called growth of the South-west and the South-east all depends in some part from oil. All the banks in Nigeria are in one way indirectly dependent on oil. Oil drives industry in Nigeria. The South East produces nada, neither does the south west. However the majority of the professionals come from a particular region, moreso than the region which produces oil  Its really a long winded argument, but the short of it is that in a way Nigeria is a bit more effective as a country than a loose group of states all because of trickle down economics.

Should I be sincere?- I have a feeling the people calling for resource control are people from the south-south and this is not pointing fingers, its just common sense

Basically Nigeria is a resource driven economy, and so resource control is really a bit slefish
Politics › Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by SEFAGO(m): 5:01pm On Dec 28, 2009
I want to Thank everyone for your constructive criticism,
Recommendations have been noted, Previous Talks with the Supreme Commander Of Nairaland has also been most successful.

Though we can not implement all the Recommendations but We will always work towards the actualization of a Cleaner, and Intelligent-based Forum.
bros oga don talk? Anyways the words of the supreme commander is final.
Politics › Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by SEFAGO(m): 5:00pm On Dec 28, 2009
[b]All of the above is 100% conjecture. [/b]We are better off acknowledging that we are as different as oil and water and dealing with it. The way to deal with it is to consult with Nigerians based on ethnicity and regional alliances. We need treaties on how we agree to exist with one another, anything else is postponing doomsday.
Usually before one acts, they have to carefully consider the effects of their actions. Be aware of the consequences before you strike. Hence conjecture is required before an action can be made especially one about confederations. moreover when that conjecture is based on how really Nigeria is then it is  not that far from the truth. If the Yorubas and the Hausa were the enemies of the ibos in Nigeria, then the ibos would later find new enemies amongst themselves. Pseudo-ethnic  relations would arise. Divisions after division where does it end?.

I think though the idea of a written treaty or agreement between ethnic groups in Nigeria is required and of utmost importance.
Politics › Re: Maryam Babangida Is Dead! by SEFAGO(m): 4:54pm On Dec 28, 2009
May her soul RIP. Amen. This life. Even our saviour said it. pray for your Enemies.
Our savior also said an eye for an eye. Anyways may her soul RIP. Bloody thieving i.d.i.o.t
Politics › Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by SEFAGO(m): 4:53pm On Dec 28, 2009
^ man u too dey vex, i am sure u no get ngozi to keep u company that is why u are too hot blooded cool
Politics › Re: Breaking News: Mutallab Family Issues Statement by SEFAGO(m): 4:49pm On Dec 28, 2009
A lot of kids in Nigeria from rich homes live in houses more expensive than that. Did that make them turn into a monster?. There are also kids who come from wretched homes yet they terrorize fellow students at the university in the name of secret cult. What then is responsible for such behavior?
In sincerity is father is a bit culpable. Even up till today I am scared of doing anything bad in case my dad hears of it. The beatings i used to get in Nigeria for just sitting down at home doing nothing had a significant effect on my life. Even when as a student I really dont need money, I am still working for money because of the constant fear that my parents put into me. If he had gone to school in Nigeria where the teachers beat you for the simple reason that they saw you looking happy, i doubt his radical islam would have ever happened.

All those expensive schools for nothing.
Politics › Re: Open Letter To Seun And Politics Section Moderator(s) by SEFAGO(m): 4:43pm On Dec 28, 2009
Sefago - A solution is very possible for the country - I think your are being a bit lazy.

Embrace fiscal federalism, industrialisation, resource control and regeneration via a new built environment.
I doubt this would be really different. None of what u mentioned is a type of government perse so I would extract your thesis as fiscal federalism

meaning everystate should be responsible for their economy like the pre-1970s United States, basically a United State of Nigeria or somethin like that?

Seems a good idea in theory, but i doubt its pragmatism
Politics › Re: Breaking News: Mutallab Family Issues Statement by SEFAGO(m): 4:40pm On Dec 28, 2009
u must be kidding? Nigerian parents are proud and would report anything that would bring shame to their name- if my child was a suspected extremist, i would keep him under lock and key so that my family nae wouldnt be aired all over the world. Now any mutallab who travels outside would get extra scrutiny

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