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Why do the ibo like fighting with the yorooba?

namfav:
who in your family is at harvard? or are you generating pride from other peoples children?

Sheesh, I come from a long line of farmers and Ogun priests. We dont go to school. F/u/ck that s/hit.

But we are experts on cocoyam farming.

Point still remains though that no full hausa has ever entered there. Jeez if you you remove federal quota from Nigerian universities there will be none at OAU or Unilag. Thank god for liberal thinking Yoruba Nigerians.

zstranger:
There was one at OAU when I was in secondary school.

Studying or an exchange/research student? Or maybe u saw oyibo and automatically assumed he was a student. Or maybe biracial?

lol I see my mistake  , I was in a hurry, busy with more important things.

Point is ask your igbo brother to get a refund. He was the one doing the typing. I am doing the correcting  

^ you are a mo/ron, I just did not put them in the right order because I was multitasking. Me make a spelling mistake?

Damn dog. Learn to respect your father.  Also dont forget that mistakes are usually underlined in red. Assuming the impossible, I would be aware it was a mistake.

^Seize-Cease

Ocassions-Occasions

Ask your primary school for a refund. Will ya??

^ Also no Hausa has ever entered Harvard in the history of the school . Why break the status quo? There is like one at MIT though.

There was a 17 year old Jamo in 2009 who was accepted into Harvard straight from the island. I can name plenty more. . .

I think you should be more concerned about the number of universities in Jamaica. Its one thing to be jumping up about oyibo universities. I would love it when Oyibo people can post on whatever site they visit- Hey James Got into University of lagos , and get similar responses though

^ Nchara how u dey now. How are the plants doing

Hope u dey kampe

Have you gotten a heart yet, one that actually beats, transcends tribalism and can comprehend deep compassion for a dead victim

Man odikwa risky ooh, maybe you got one of those hearts from Aba market. Hope sha u have a receipt so you can return it.

A 9 year old girl died. And you think its a great time to throw ethnocentric insults.

Some of you guys are just plain disgusting

^ still thinking?

Why u dey form because I be omo yoruba?

Bo so, bo sokoto, bo pata wa gba kondo lori bedi tabi lori rugi.

I guess the new Pan African/Afro-centric mantra should be--> Don't hate, Assimilate TM. Brotha!

Yep all those claims- you are white washed or calling someone an Uncle Tom just slows down our progress. You gotta learn to play the game before you can win the game.

Hmm, Didn't know she's already back in Nigeria, I remember her from the Newspapers, heard she got like straight A1's or so

yeah seems she came back a long tym ago. Remember her from the papers too. As for dropping out, dont know anyone who knows her since she is a bit older than I am. Though the question is: Why stay? She can do anything she wants in Nigeria. She can start her own consultancy firm from scratch (which she has I think). Probably can pursue her interest.

Her reasons for leaving? Seems she is more comfortable in Nigeria than at Caltech were everyone is a genius and probably not that social. She might have felt out of place in that place. No church- Nigerian women love church die. Its a place for them to socialize, meet other women and scope out future God-loving husbands. Being cut off from the church community in a place where everyone is at most agnostic could have been difficult for her to live with. Might have had issues with her PI. Could have failed her Comprehensive exams (doubt that) . Lots of speculative reasons.

I hope you know she has been branded as a "top brain". Its all about branding and publishing every tiny achievement you make just like emeagwali. Good PR an me the world go round. Lots of other people achieve similar fits but they are not splashed over the papers and are very discreet.

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=661845.msg8275427#msg8275427 date=1304782748]The guy is basically building mini-Dubai in Lekki, with this Lekki FTZ.

MMIA is not going to cut it.

If Dubai is any indication of how things will end up, we'll be getting lots of flights into Lekki from all over Africa. Lekki airport may end up becoming a regional or international hub. This 5 million/year probably isn't an unreasonable figure. I doubt he'd have gotten private capital to invest in the airport if it were not feasible.[/quote]True, but I think what most of the posters are complaining about is the lack of a bridge in Lekki and the bad roads. The traffic in Lekki is honestly horrible and scares the s/h/i/t out of anyone. Lekki does not need an airport first, it needs good roads

Lots of professionals live in the Lekki area and it is hell getting to work.

http://www.bellanaija.com/2011/02/14/tosin-otitoju-a-whizkids-journey-of-self-discovery-fulfilment/

This is another Yoruba whizkid. I think she is from Ekiti or Ondo. Best results in WAEC in the whole of Nigeria at the age of 15. Got into a PhD at Caltech at the age of 20 but dropped out to pursue her interest in drama. Got a national award from Nigeria at the age of 23. Wetin we dey chop sef?

Disclaimer: I dont really bellanaija oooh, that one na for girls:

Born on May 1, 1981, Oluwatosin Helen Otitoju is perhaps the most decorated young Nigerian her age. At a tender age of 14, she was already the head girl of Queens College, Lagos. She had the second best Junior School Certificate results nationwide and became the overall best in the May/June 1996 Senior School Certificate Examinations. She went on to shatter records at the Howard University, graduating Summa cumlaude (First Class) in Electrical Engineering and becoming the first ever Howard graduate recipient of the Poincaré Fellowship at the California Institute of Technology for postgraduate studies. In 2004, she received a national merit award (FRM) from the Nigerian government and two years later received the Young Person of the Year Award at The Future Awards 2006. Less than three years later, she had a teaching stint in Yola, Adamawa State, and currently lectures at the Department of Systems Engineering, University of Lagos. An Associate of the Nigeria Leadership Initiative, she holds a Masters degree in Control and Dynamical Systems from Caltech and is the author of Comrade, a collection of poetry published in 2010. She was actively involved in Caltech Theater Arts (2002-2006) as an actress in five full productions, including Molière’s The Misanthrope, Shakespeare’s Measure for Measure and As You Like It, and modern works: Inspiration by Iona Morris and Krishna by Sid Jaggi of OASIS. In this exclusive interview with BN Editorial Assistant, Gbenga Awomodu, she shares details about quitting her PhD programme, teaching experience in Nigeria, and her continuous journey of self-discovery and fulfillment in marrying science and the Arts.

sbeezy8:
my cousin got accepted in to yale at 16

he graduated last year

whats the big deal?

not a hata just saying

Haters are gonna hate. What abt u? Why your cousins?

@MzDarkskin

I agree she is as Nigerian as they get. She can probably speak Yoruba better than I can (Not a very hard achievement tbh lol)

NJ has lots of Nigerians and they form a tight community, so she might go to a predominantly white school but I am sure it is conc. yoruba she speaks at home.

zstranger:
Well, how many Macarthur genius award recipients are from the North? Lets start from there

LOL

Now, I'm not sure how credible the authors are, but the conclusions there supports the assertion that; maybe a deeper cultural connection to the dominant Philosophy (at least the ones driving the knowledge of the age we live in) is necessary for a greater exploitation of the benefits of western science and a deeper appreciation for it's value beyond "paper certificate" bragging  rights. I believe that the closer your are to it culturally and emotionally, the better you will fare and the farther it will drive you

This has always been my thesis too. Seems cultural similarity is one of the most important reasons for development in most countries. The need to be "western." Thats why the Chinese Government encouraged its best students to study in the US. It seems the west has set up everything in the system to favor themselves. We cant really do much now.

So maybe we should all become as western as possible. Its ok, to just assume defeat, and absorb the dominant culture, there isn't much we cannot do again. The Japanese and the chinese were already far into the "wheel of civilization" so they could maybe have some cultural inputs into science and technology. I think personally we should try and become as western as possible, to beat the big bad "West" we must become like them.

(sefago hides behind the wall from the pan-african abuse he is about to receive)

^ whats ur own sef. She can date who she wants- if na oyibo so be it. First na ashewo you use curse am, nau u have set another one on her

What about my proposition

@Topic, what's up with Yale rejecting this girl? why are they so snobbish? I heard they only admit borderline lunatics and kids with weird Einstein-like academic profiles.

LOL, impossible to know. They might not have liked her essay, thought she was too young, worried she might be more of a robot than a real person. Dunno. Who cares anyways Harvard>>>Yale. Chick is set why do u wanna pour sand sand for her garri

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=661053.msg8273066#msg8273066 date=1304724667]I started at 16 too. But I felt alienated in HS, not really in college. . .college was great I'm glad in retrospect that I did it. . . but yeah, there are definitely tradeoffs  [/quote]Awww were you bullied? For being a nerd? Did they make fun of your African accent when you first arrived. Did they give you a list of words to pronounce for them while they laughed at you? Was it like the male version of mean girls? Sucks cannot empathize though  .

So u could not get hammered legally until you graduated and you think it was worth it?  

Seems you speak from personal experience?

Who told ya  

Tongue Not all Nigerian parents 'push' their kids into medicine. How about these kids have actually always fancied the field? And understandably so just by looking at the Nigerian health system.

Maybe you were subconsciously made to believe you wanted to be a doctor. Fight the shackles of pushy Nigerian parents, fight it.

J/king but as I said earlier thats perfectly fine, if kids choice.

And what do you mean MD's are usually 7-9 years after a first degree?

I meant for an MD/PhD

As for Engineering, it's very unlikely Nigerian parents would push their daughter into that because of money. It's still a male-dominated profession even in the U.S. I don't think many females want to go into it anyway even without outside pressure/influences.

You have been subliminally convinced by the media and your parents that it is a male-dominated profession. As I said fight the shackles of societal pressure and you would be fine.

WOMAN POWER! WOMAN POWER!

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=661053.msg8272913#msg8272913 date=1304722030]Things like this used to be the norm back in the day, in nigeria.

So while the girl's achievement is commendable, her parents need to be extra careful not to let the praise get to their heads because sometimes people are tricky.

There were a couple of thailand(i think) girls in the UK many years ago, who were hailed as math geniuses and child prodigies.

The last time i heard of them, they were p.rostitutes.

My point? Shine your eyes.

Not all that glitters is gold. I wish her well but folks shouldnt get carried away.

And yes, this kind of thing didnt use to be uncommon in nigeria. Black people being dumb is simply a myth which unfortunately many blacks are buying into, not to mention some have sold their souls for money.[/quote]@tpia, wetin dey do you with all these superstition. U don leave naija sef, and you are still pessimistic and superstitious. How the h/e/ll will such a cute little girl transform to a prostitute? You imagination is just way too much sha

U sure say loneliness no come make you craze finish?

Anyways whats your number so that I can give you Kondo  .

by the way before you accept my proposition (how far back into the day so that I would know how to handle ya?

@ SEFAGO,

Regarding Medicine, well it may be crap in your opinion but what is seen daily is far from crap. Seeing a little child with a congnital heart disease being saved through hours of grueling operation is quite remarkabe to me. Perhaps you have to see these things to appreciate it.

In any case in the US, even if the formidable Saheela wanted to study Medicine, she will need a good first degree typically lasting 4 years before she can study medicine for another 4 years. Very bright students like her beginning with Biology/Neurobiology/Neuroscience/Biochemistry etc, end up studying medicine (MD) later or a combined MD/PhD for around a total of another 6 years.

In fact by chosing Neuroscience she has only just positioned herself as best as she can to get into Medicine later otherwise Computer Science/Finance/Astronomy and a host of others would have been preferable.
So beginning from now, she may well have 8 years of study in front of her to obtain the "crap" medical degree or even 10 years for MD/PhD!

Good luck to her. She's clearly destined for greater things.

I think you misconstrue my statement. First, I respect medicine. If you have a passion for it then pursue it. I dont like it when a child is forced to do something they have no interest in just because the parents can. In general, some immigrant parents have the tendency of pushing their kids into careers that these kids have no interest in because it makes money. MD/PhDs are usually 7-9 years actually after a first degree.

Ok, this girl loves neurobiology what if she had pushy parents who wanted her to be an engineer because it makes money? She would have been locked in a field she doesnt like. If she wants to be a doctor- very good for her, but she makes that choice, not her parents.

I am not angry at all. The point is we have not really achieved much, PRACTICALLY,  with the 'pali' we are always eager to parade.

Bros, unfortunately/fortunately you are not Ileke-idi so I would not be kissing you. No homo. I have always had this message that we are not achieving enough relative to other groups or countries. Whether in the diaspora oh or in Nigeria. Like we are being left behind by everyone. One or two Nigerians manage to slip pass the cracks but thats about it.

How many patents do we have, collectively, compared to others? And, even beyond that how have the so called 'highly educated' ones amongst us impact the community they live in,  here or back home. Over the years, even before Clarence Page's article came out dubbing Immigrant Africans as model minority, it was evident to every one that Africans, as a whole, and Nigerians in particular parade lotsa degrees with very little to show for it in terms numbers of high value publications, patents, inventions, and even, no offense intended,  WRT original ideas. We just seem in-capable of translating our class-room smarts into real-life smarts that could be beneficial to others.

Exactement, too much school and not enough to show for it. I think this girl would be different though, she seems to have a passion for neurobiology.

My point is that relative to others, eg the Indians, who have been able to produce people like Ramachandran et al, Tata Motors and Nanos etc.,we are just lacking behind, satisfied with shyyty/ subliminally deriding accolades like model minority, and getting into Harvard in trickles, while the rest of the world move past us developmentally.

Agree, first time you have demonstrated sense. I hope Ekt_bear is not using your nairaland account sha.

That right there is enough for us all to bury our heads in shame.

^ egbon, why u vexed now, elaborate more, dont get ur point.

I have seen it countless times and it saddens me every time I see that.

Agree, this s/h/i/t is overquoted though.

Funny fact, they could not tell teh difference between Zimbabwe and Zambia- still cracking me up anytime I re-read it

Another funny fact- they only wanted to go to countries that were more "western"

You read WSO too? lol

yes oo bros, na one of my favorite sites. it reminds me of NL. Oyibo people engaging in "My d*ic*k is bigger than yours arguments."

It's amazing how clueless some of those preppy kids are, and they want to work in IBs and deal with assets all over the world?

LOL, cant blame them. Born with a silver spoon---> Expensive Schools no matter how daft they are--->IB---> Manage Daddy's business.

Dont bother leaving the Northeast since this is the best place in the world. Fu*ck Yeah.

Anyway, the ignorance helps when your cultural world-view actually controls the world, You should read what Oyinbo expats in Nigeria say about us, I will post a link if I can go through the archives on some other site I saw.

Like Ezeuche rightly said, They learn quickly when they get the gig. The unfortunate thing though is that we don't benefit from their ignorance (yahoo-yahoo boys benefit somewhat) because they control too much "economically" right now.

Yeah but the problem is also us, we still keep hiring them no matter what.

^^ eeyah, can you imagine the sanctimonious ignorance of that one?

Is there anywhere you can run a large-scale business with a perfectly clean conscience? In a dog-eat-dog capitalist world where we all struggle for scarce economic resources? except he can reboot his conscience every night, That guy needs to apply to the Holy Mt. Athos, GS might break his cute little spirit

Someone should have reminded him about enron and Madoff.

True, the thread should be reported lol to a moderator

But dont burst a vein about this genius girl of Yoruba extraction

[quote author=Kilode?! link=topic=661640.msg8271914#msg8271914 date=1304708877]^^ I had the same thought when I saw Carlyle, I think Prince Bin Talal own investments in Nigerian assets going back to IBB days so no biggie. I dislike conspiracy theories, I like investments, but I also know history can be very repetitive, very cyclical.

Hopefully we are wiser this time around and won't leave all the "grabbing" and control to foreign capitalists.[/quote]^ Africans are the one managing the funds though. I get your point though, the buck stops at oyibos table.

its just investments and they are trying to make money.

Look at what oyibo think of us:

http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/africa

@ SEFAGO, it's weird, I honestly believe that in general, Northerners are just as intelligent as southerners, but their culture is holding them back. The question of intelligence differences due to culture is a very interesting and unresolved issue.

I believe that too, and thats why I always point out at culture a lot. I am strongly convinced that logic is strongly predicated on culture than anything else. If the East European Jews who might be wicked smart, but I bet it has a lot to do with all that Torah reading they had to do in the past

And what proof do you have that Carribeans outperform Africans?

Observation, and I read Lani Guinier's paper on African immigrants where she gave a break down of staistics a long time ago. Would search for it later when I am less busy. I am sure you know the paper since it has been overquoted everywhere.

Remember, Africans probably school in a lot more countries than Carribeans.

I was talking of African Immigrants in the US and Carribean immigrants in the US. Also on a per capita basis as opposed by pure numbers.

I wouldn't be surprised if it were true, based on the number of academics with Carribean origins I've seen occupying prominent faculty positions

Hmm I was talking more at the education level than academia. Hmm, I am kind of interested, can you link me to these caribbean professors because I have never seen any tbh

^ PhysicsMHD you don craze finish with all those particle and condensed matter physics u dey study?

Anyways I meant these two:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlyle_Group

http://www.kingdomzephyr.com/team.html

Dont know where this is supposed to be, but since the Politics sections commands the most traffic, I placed it here.