₦airaland Forum

Kobojunkie:
When it comes to information that is basic to one's existence, one is not required to have reasoning abilities. If you play ABC - 123  song on the radio to a baby for a while, the baby is likely to learn ABC and 123 in no time, even recognize the characters if you had employed a visual aid in that experiment. There is a simple program that teaches babies how to talk with just that ( Your Baby can Read) out in the market .

Thats more early stage cognitive learning and is not even the close to the right example ( considering the fact that your example is that of a baby where language and character development is even much faster, as an adult those two are firm set for most). We are talking of reasoning - reasoning is no way innate but learned by trial and error and experience. Just listening to radio without even some education to give you a background on what you are learning on does not make sense.

Why did you mention farming also for crying out loud? Come to think of it, the farming does not make sense. Assume that you listen to a weekly show on "How to farm" everyweek how are you going to commit such a large info to memory if you cannot write? Most Hausa cannot write in any language. Implementing what you learn on radio is not possible.

I think the OP was talking about political information not "Farming"

Go back and read his post even more slowly

I can tell you: As a young scholar in 1997, I once marked SSCE scripts coming from the North, I saw no iota of education!!!
I even fear that even if we educate the entire north VERY WELL, they will still roll out their political and religious agendas.
So what's the point. They CHOSE to be that way and have no plans for repentance!

Who told you they had "Choice" in the true meaning of the word? As for their political agenda are they the first ethnic group to have a political agenda? Dont SW/SS/SE have political agendas? As for religious agendas well that is another story entirely  

1. Of what use is the info from these radio channels to them?
2. Are they listening or merely playing the radio for the fun of it?
3. At what point in time would they as human beings (educated or not) realize that playing the radio has not don them or their neighbors any good?
4. Or that the poster is being economical with the truth

You should ask your/our forefathers  why they spent centuries unable to do anything scientifically creative except live in mud huts with teeny weeny towns that modern day afrocentrists are now calling kingdoms . You should also ask the over 200 million+ black Africans who access to TV and radio if they are just playing radio and TV for fun and why are they still backwards in science and technology, not just only Hausa people.

Or instead maybe it might be a better idea for Nigerian leaders and Nigerians who spend tons of time sitting down watching CNN and see all the development going on in the west to push for education in the North as an important part of their agenda and not building rubbish like International airports and asking for crap like additional state creation to "balance things out". One thing at a time

That my friend is One Nigeria  

Forget about the calls by Niger Delta people and all that. I am more interested in basic information first -- information to help their lives. The poster said the average hausa(where majority are poor) has access to information, and from what I have listened to, the information is basic. So it makes sense for me to wonder why all that information seems not to arrive at all.

I created that vignette to show you what his main concern was. But your stance on "basic information" is not what he is worried about. He is calling for formal education in the North having lived in the SW and SE and seeing the opportunities afforded to those who have such an education. Basic Information on what exactly? Farming?   You want them to be farmers for life. The world economy left that like err several centuries ago.

I think you should go back and read his earlier posts slowly and carefully- might help  

My oh my

Anyhoo, I will break it down to the basics by giving a crude example:

Hausa man hears on the radio calls by Niger Delta people to increase state allocation funds to people from ND since they produce the oil and increase ND presence in Government parastals

Uneducated Hausa Man: Walahi Talahi all these people are greedy. Are we not part of Nigeria. We deserve everything to be shared equally. I am going to find a random person to split into pieces (hopefully igbo)  , I joke
Educated and Well Traveled Hausa Man: This makes sense. The ND bears the brunt environmentally for most of Nigeria's oil revenue. It would be ratiional that they receive some sort of compensation.

Two different responses from people with two different perspectives of life. The burning is issue is that the first individual is more common in the North. He gets lots of info on his radio but he could easily be mislead by political propaganda-like a child.

^ Man Woman you still dont understand what he is trying to say

Its all in his post. The Hausa are politically interested and aware just that their scope of Nigerian politics is quite narrow based on the lack of formal education. Without formal education (which is highly encouraged in the south), there is no way for these people to critically evaluate the information to receive from the Newspaper or Radio or whatever. Their lack of education makes them unable to do so.

What you just wrote has nothing to do with what he is saying  . Getting tons of info=education. I could bombard you with lots of Quantum theory and Statistical Mechanics but you would not understand shishi

@OP
I understand perfectly where you are coming from.

I'v spent about 70%  of my life up in the north and I seem to understand how the Poster feels. Its even worse with christian hausas- northerners dont want them, southerners reject them.

Is that why you are giving out free hugs? Come and give me a free hug too- I get rejected loads by everyone  

Kobojunkie:
I am still having a hard time understanding what you mean  . . . . I mean the part where you state that information is available - what sort of information are you really speaking of here? . . .Also  so, of what use is the political and religious consciousness that you say exists?

Information about what is happening in Nigeria, like what you guys think of them, issues like zoning and federal quota, political shenanigans of the PDP the whole shishi. Even the youths down North are tired of rearing cattle and wanna drive flash cars too. However they do not have the educations to put the information or ideas within the proper context. The little education they have might make them reason out albeit wrongly that "they deserve a share of all that oil money" though they dont produce nada

Would love to explain more sweetheart but I just heard news that you were a He? Is that true?

Wow
Already making excuse for his mediocrity

Niger delta are not your enemies but you refused to go to polls to vote for their candidate.
If that is not enmity I wonder what is.

Maybe because he was a bad candidate?

Has that occurred to you?

Are there no Abokis who live in the SE or SS? Yoruba? Nupe? Etc? Did they not vote at all?

What of even human error? Random mistakes, someone marking A but marking B instead?

You guys are making a lot of excuses for something that intuitively is very, very weird. . . 99%+ of people in a state of millions voting for a SINGLE CANDIDATE. I.e., under 1% of voters voting for any other candidate.

Dont forget the largest contributor- Mago Mago. Even right now if you give the average person 10,000 naira it would do them no harm to mark a few empty ballot papers  

Obama got 95% of the black vote, which is pretty close to what we have here. It goes to show that black people, whether in Africa or in the West, tend to exhibit the same herd mentality.

So did Kerry and Gore will. More black people vote democrats duhhh. So its more a vote across party lines than across racial lines

What we see here is Ethnocentrism in the SS/SE not surprising though, now that they have told us loud and clear that they are bigots the point has been well taken.

He looks like one and he is one


Look at his eyes Ole jati jati oshii

Ngige, Uche Chukwu-cannot pronounce the rest and Any Uba?? These are all mediocre people

Why do you guys love mediocrity??

^ U sure? Spirit of Change? And you already want someone from the SE to be Senate President.

Its pretty obvious why you guys voted en masse, no one has to say it loud of course, but you and I know why

SW is low because they did not see any viable candidate of sorts. When all your options are crap, why vote?

If you see GEJ as any sort of change I laugh in spanglish

What about merit??

Wrong

From even more credible sources, Enugu and Abia are 80% Yoruba so they did turn out to vote in large numbers.

3 million migrated to the SS. Personally from my experience, Nigeria is 80% Yoruba. I have no statistics to back it up but I have lots of imaginary anecdotal evidence .

This is obviously due to the large Yoruba population in Anambra, Abia and Imo state. Yoruba people make up at least 50% of the population in those states

Nchara:
Which SE person did Igbo vote for? I thought you know Nigerian geography and politics?
Igbos do not travel except during xmas and new yam festival. That is why the census is always low there because 10 million Igbos in Lagos refused to go home and be counted back home.

Same for Yoruba, Yoruba people in the SE which is approximately 25 million based on my extensive travels in the SE  

Infact when I was doing my Youth Corp service in Enugu in one of the schools I was teaching most of the children there had Yoruba fathers who went back to lagos but they had igbo names like Emeka, Nwachukwu perchance Nchara you were one of them.

I would estimate that the number of Yoruba in the SE is around 25-30 million but they have fully blended into the igbo community and taken up their host culture.  

Nchara:
Yoruba in the SE is just a handful. Moreover they all traveled home to vote

Who told you- where are the numbers. For all I know Yoruba could be 60% of Anambra, there are not statistics to prove otherwise  . Infact in all the igbo states I have visited I have met more Yoruba than Igbo  

I think all the people in the SE who voted are probably yoruba

Most of the votes in the SW were not Yoruba votes. Millions of Igbos and other non-SW southerners rendered those votes. Left for Yoruba, GEJ was going to lose. They have shown they do not love him. Simple

You know this because . . .

There is no evidence. It could be similarly argued without evidence that looking at the numbers all of them were Yoruba while the small amount of igbo in the SW did not bother to vote. The statistics can be interpreted in any form based on the biases of the interpreter.

Stop stating bullcrap without evidence  

Which Yoruba? The ones who sat at home and refused to vote or the  ones who voted for Buhari and Ribadu? All Lagos PDP votes, 1+ million of them, were from the over 8 million Igbos in LAGOS.

How do you know this? Do you have evidence when there is no break down of the statistics by ethnic group. Man and if I start calling your education inferior, I would be accused of parochialism.

She means that people from the SW would spend any amount to send their children abroad.

Why cant you guys read critically?

Ileke-Idi,
These guys are big liars, there is no way in hell that the large majority of educated people in Lagos are from SE. Its mostly Yoruba and Edo people with some Delta. This is such blatant lies. Why do people like to lie?

See how rhetorics have turned  from SE to SS/SE after the election. Na by force to get president from your region 

LOL

fstranger u dey try me oo, you dey try me gan

Yah true though I would be nicer to Gidson12

@Gidson12.
Hey man apologies about the insult. However, there is nothing to rejoice about. Having someone in the SS would not help improve Nigeria or add money to my bank or your bank  

gidson12:
kai GOODLUCK bad belle plenty o,, sefago is her wife your problem?, no worry we like am like that, and you should learn to deal with it, she is your first lady, why all this hatred for this man. Abi is it because he is from the SS

Usually its "his wife" not "her wife." Being aware that you are from the south south, where pidgin is the numero uno lingo, I would let your poor writing skills to go. But I will not be so magnanimous with regards to your analytical approach to my criticism of the Nigerian election. I want a president that could move Nigeria forward you daft punk not one that is from a specific region.

You think say Jonathan go dey give you money for aso rock? You don craze finish oo. When mosquito bite you tire and PHCN dey take light 80% of the day, and poverty yansh you finish, you go regret say SS own aso rock.

Mauron

gidson12:
@ SEFAGO,
God o, see bad belle, hope it pains you wella, your northern brothers and you westerns had ruled this country to its sorry state, now with GOODLUCK we can behold some gleam of light from the dark hole your brothers dumped us in, is that your heartattack, i repeat 'if u like go hang your self' SS rules, and we go hold am 4 d nxt 8years cos u guys(SW) would still love to vote him in again, cos he's better than your Obasanjo, up SS,

You are daft. Crossbreed between a He-Goat and a woman.

Who ruled what? Is bad leadership exclusive to a region. You just voted in a pawn you daft i/d/iot. After years of living in Nigeria you are not even aware of that. You stu/upid/ity amazes me. I dont blame you. I am vexed too that you were too broke to be sent to a mental institution.

SS rules what? PDP is still in power you He-GoatMan

Please refer to my earlier post. All the gbigiri your father did to give birth to you would have been better spent wanking off.

Yeah we get the point. She was Delta Igbo. She spent nigeria's hard earned money quite well buying designer stuff and expensive trips to Europe. Then she died like all mortals. Givenchy, Armani and Christian Dior will sorely miss her. So will the Ritz and the Hiltons. I won't but they say dont speak evil of the dead.

May her soul RIP

However, you dont need to be a flashy dresser to have class. Class is innate, its not by what you wear, but how you speak and your carriage. Madam Umblerrah is severely lacking. I just hope she does not refer to Obama's wife or his family in her market pidgin tongue as Oyinbo during like a get together.

Thank God she was not invited to the Royal wedding. I could see her making some gaffe that could become headline news.

shishi and we also have Dame Jonathan as first lady representing us in the international arena. I hope Jonathan hides her well from public view. man what a shame.

What a shame. The guy go chop money well well no be small. I hope his wife goes for some english lessons sha

gidson12:
bunch of failures, if una(SW) like make una no vote 4 goodluck, shebi una get ACN, while not vote 4 buhari your odua candidate, GOODLUCK go still win, up SS, up Goodluck, cry o, na we get aso rock 4 d nxt 8yrs, yes i said it 8yrs

Thats what Yar'adua probably thought. Lots of stuff can happen within 8 years. 8 years is quite some time mate.

So aren't you interested in seeing how goodluck will perform or are you just interested in being aware like other SS m/o/r/o/ns like Beaf that you have aso rock, locked and stocked for 8 years.

Look at a mirror and recite "I am a waste of sp-er-m, it should have been aimed at the floor"

Are you talking about chosen candidate?

Nah the whole candidate pool, its just disgusting- pure mediocrity. Buhari-sama, Jonathan, Dele momodu, Ribadu (all recycled crap), why cant we get someone fresh. What would have been ideal was that everyone boycotted the bloody election and sat down in their homes as a mass protest. Bad Candidates=No voting. Simple, civic duty my arse.

EzeUche:
Nothing else to do with tornado warnings and non-stop rain. I guess you having been listening to the news in the U.S. about the storm that has hit the East Coast.

Like I said, sucks to be you.

So you dont have people to hangout with?, and all the chicks you claim to "know" instead of giving them a good nyanshing on saturday night you are here with Nchara (A well known virgin with imaginary Yoruba girlfriends all starting with the letter "B" talking about south south unity. The only unity u shuld be thinking of on a saturday night is the one between a man and a woman.

Ok yeah as I said whateva

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=648446.msg8145655#msg8145655 date=1303023467]Oko mi owo, bawo ni? [/quote]Iyawo mi, I was just looking at your Egbe Omo Yoruba thread, lots of hot women. However, kind of just sick and tired of Nigerians and their mentality after the election was done. Seems we are gonna be in a cesspit for a long tym. Another 8 years of darkness ahead.

Just like your mother?

Or is it your father?

Who gave birth to a buffoon like you?

It must suck to be an ugly, white loving bastarrrd like you.

Wharreva. Anyone can type crap on the internet. Speaks volumes that you spent your saturday night online lol.

Yep I agree, Nigeria is 90% Igbo

Maurons

Its going to be hilarious, when Goodluck doesnt do crap for Nigeria then you guys start comparing him to Obasanjo and Yaradua et al saying what did they do.

The cycle continues daft leadership daft people especially daft ethnocentric people

Bleh Whateva

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=648126.msg8145167#msg8145167 date=1303010340]Both of you guys have the wrong idea about each other. . . I don't think there are camels in Kanuriland  

bk.babe isn't Mexican to my knowledge, he is Dominican or Puerto Rican.

And Mexico is doing a lot better than Naija, to be quite honest. Even the illegal immigrant types from Mexico, the ones who are hardworking tend to move up pretty quickly in society rather than staying at the bottom. Our mechanic in Houston has already bought his own home, for example.[/quote]If he was igbo he would have bought the whole of Houston. Kind of mediocre.

I dont think Mexico is that much different than Nigeria from what I heard. I have like real Mexican friends (Not Mexican-American) and they complain a lot about the lack of jobs and such. Why are mexicans migrating to the US and Canada if its getting better?

@bkbabe99
Do you know Miguelito (Anytime I think of Puerto Ricans I think of Miguelito)

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=648126.msg8145122#msg8145122 date=1303009335]http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=8012037

Nigerian. Her father seems to have some sort of electronics business in PH[/quote]Yeah watched that already. Found it funny though that they said PH is dangerous