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Well you may have faggott friends youngsters no doubt at university or college. These guys would have no issues finding partners in such an environment.Key word is turned. Who told you they turned gay? Take a hypothetical case- Someone was born gay, society pressures him to be hetero, he dates girls, hates it the same way you would hate homo activity (Did that occur to you, switch perspectives mate), then decides to go all out homo. So from your perspective, "he turned gay" but in actual sense "he was always gay" Capische? So there is no "turning" gay claim you can make |
Well you may have faggott friends youngsters no doubt at university or college. These guys would have no issues finding partners in such an environment.Ok, Case Study number one: A friend in college. perfectly normal, used to hook up with girls a lot. Senior year of college, comes out that he is gay. Did not tell his parents, interested in using him as a case study because I love case studies so I asked him questions about why he is gay- he gave me the low down that he has always been attracted to men since he was young. But the stigma stopped him and he always hated the fact that he had to date girls. Hooked up with tons of girls, had his first gay boyfriend though he is not really put of the closet I think it would be logical for me to assume that the laws of attraction cannot be dictated by society no matter how much we would want it to.- Sefago, awesome moment where I make a statement. Jot it down |
Truth be told though, my personal experience, the average Brit tends to be more informed than the average American on socio-political issues.You sure? My experience has been otherwise. I think its more jealously that makes people make Americans the butt of jokes. Or maybe you seek out the dumb ones. Also inferiority complex, the only that led to a bristol grad claiming what he is not. Its the same jealousy that the Americans have for the Chinese and claim that these guys are only good at rote memorization. The Brits know that they are insignificant in the grand scheme of things world wide, and the Americans are scared s/h/i/tless about the chinese. Jealousy upon jealousy. Bonobo monkeys are not gay, a gay animal will only mate with opposite se.x.I just had to quote this, and hence . . . you must be ok with bisexuals haha Lafta. Ok sorry I really have to stop |
Well you can be logical and say that beings which act in accordance with biological instinct- namely animals and birds- do not have faggotts.There we go again, tons of evidence show that a subset of animals show homo behavior. Its just the general perspective of who is reading that evidence. If its a homophobe, they will consider the results inconclusive or these scientists have a gay agenda. If its an unbiased scientist, the scientist might apply heuristics and decide may be it would just save more time in the lab and doing better research than working on gay people ![]() I never went to university except University ofWord, enjoy Go Ivy ![]() |
so how come gay men get the brunt of of the prejudice and hate?Nice one, I saw the trap lol. The issue as you have already posited is quite evolutionary instinct as you have already figured out. Thats all it is just survival instincts. I noticed that I am more comfortable amongst lesbians than gay men myself, its more instinctive. Infact the reason why we have 21 pages is that people cannot draw a line between instinct and rational thought. Its a very difficult concept to grasp. I am going to enrol in Bristol first thing tomorrow morning.Again, for a second degree , greet all the babes there for me ooo. Or notWanna probably get a second ivy league degree |
Bristol s/h/i/t man let it rest. I told you its the best uni in the world. Capische- lets make a truce. I agree the Bristol is the best in the world, That I am an i/d/i/ot, you ignore my post, I dont insult you. Any time you have an itch to comment on my post just be like s/h/i/t this guy is daft? This truce will probably last for 3 months but we can start from there? Man I swear I had wicked fun while it lasted. Bristol oh my what a laff. I have not laughed this much since Yar'adua became president. Georgetown cannot even compete with Sheffield, Leeds, Birmingham or Nottingham in the first palce. They ALL flog it in all rankings.Hmm true , Sheffield, Leeds and Birmingham? What a laugh ![]() oh boy u just dey kill your bros here with lafta. Anyways truce? You went to cambridge man just ignore your lesser ones ![]() |
^ Bristol graudate Hhahahahaahahahah Keep going, you and I know where I stand and why i can laugh. Keep posting ![]() The thing dey pain u oo. Bristol s/h/i/t uni. ![]() So the 21st best University at the undergraduate level in the most powerful country is not better than the 33rd or 14th and 16th best in the UK, a school that falls behind even in Europe , you got into OAU for math sebi? So the school is not even Top 10 at the undergraduate level in the UK , better than Gtown, are you on crack . Here was I thinking it was a top 10 school in the UK. So like its equivalent to GW or even worse? Hmm keep going. So you went to roughly a george washington university kind of school? Not top 10 in the UK , so you are even mediocre in the UK?Man thanks for the info. I can even feel more superior to you again and again You yourself no that those world rankings are crap and measure research strength. Trust me where I am doing my research PhD is superior to even your undergrad cambridge. You get, do you have an idea? Oops did I just let s/h/i/t slip ![]() I laugh in spanish But why is it paining you, I thought you went to U of . . . [Yeah U wish, you went to bristol u dumb f*u*c*k] ![]() In simple language NOBODY was born a faggott or a pervert. That comes about by having twisted and perverted thought patterns probably brought about by systematic abuse during the crucial formative childhood and teen years.Do you have proof for this. The studies on genetic disposition itself is technically inconclusive, but its more likely than not that gays attraction to others is genetic. I am a bit ambivalent though to be honest. I dont think its possible to actually discover hereditary patterns for homos. I would prefer logic to be used instead, and experiential thought as opposed to using significant time and effort- Its not that easy to choose what you get attracted to. |
please why dont you guys stop this hatred and cursing that wont do anybody good? You guys can always express yourself and make your idea know to people without resorting to insult. Its really bad cos you're all creating a bad impression about yourselves on NLSorry bros, I admit I have been way over the line, and I apologize to all those on Nairaland. But abeg just give me 5 minutes to laugh at the bristol grad and I swear I will vamoose from the thread. If you know the story, you yourself will laugh with me. If you see how this guy hops from thread to thread calling every one mo/r/o/n and claiming how smart he is. Then he got vexed that a less arrogant version of him appeared on nairaland. Just look at his posts and count how many times he calls people m/o/r/ons Abeg next time you see this guy be very sure that the guy would never make OAU or Unilag even if you feed him Jamb questions. Make I laugh small, the guy claimed he got into OAU to study math ooo, Sagamite that probably barely passed WAEC math not to talk of further math Ewoooo Ok done laughing au revoir |
Reetard you joined a thread stating that all those that said homosexuality is not similar to racism are moorons, and you did not expect to get your arse whooped?LOl, the bristol thing dey pain you wellu wellu. It doesnt matter anyways- I am sure you think you are smarter than a harvard grad. Its all in your delusional mind, swagger hey swagger. The overall elite would just think you are crazy. No way in hell am I letting someone from bristol be even my gateman. What matters is fact- You went to s/h/i/t You are so full of crap though, you go around calling people mo/r/o/ns because you think your opinions are correct while others are wrong. But what makes you smarter than others, what makes you better? Critical Reflection is key. Critical reflection that was never taught at Bristol. Or did you study PPE at Cambridge ![]() Olodo Pangolo. Abeg make I look at that piece of paper that is next to my laptop that boldly reads " That I/D/I/O/T went to Bristol" Sh/IT man you went to bristol and you still keep going on and on. Dont you know that I am literally rolling over the floor laughing at your inferiority right now? So this is Bristol's standards? Not surprised though when the best you can bring is James Blunt? Man British universities are dead. Mediocre graduates running around on NL calling everyone m/o/r/o/n. Bring me a Unilag or Nsukka graduate with brains. |
I attended University of C . . . . . .Oh my here we go again, Deja Vu ![]() I think I will just be the better man, and say please, do me a favor, dont quote my posts, ignore me, and we would be fine. But you will still keep on doing it. Let it rest Sefago as you can't let this long ago incident keep eating at you.Nah Bros, you dont get. Sagamite follows me around. Like he reads my posts, I know that, thats why after a brief hiatus on nairaland, the first thing I did was start boasting because the thing always pains Sagamite . Its easy to draw the i/d/i/ot out and its pretty easy to predict him. All he has is abuses, he is quite empty headed tbh.He is like a Malu, you can direct him where you need him to go. I knew that immediately I showed up on this thread, he was going to start quoting my posts, I have constantly told him to ignore me and forget about me. But he keeps on referencing me in several of his posts. Trust me the guy should be confined to the Yaba Lagos Psychiatric hospital. Please go back to the beginning of the thread and watch what happened. He referenced my post, I ignored him. Then he got really direct, then I informed him about bristol. He chilled for a while wondering about what swagger he could use for the next day, and assumed that I guessed, and he was just going to swagger this out. Wrong. If the guy made no reference to me at all, I would just have replied to only you and OAMJ4. I was already enjoying OAMJ4. Simple as long as sagamite decides not to quote or make a reference to me, then I will be totally fine. But trust me, the guy probably dreams about me all day. Even if I just let it go, the guy will not let it go. Crazy Homo ![]() https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-593966.64.html Go through Page 3-4 see who started the trouble first. Trust me though, the guy will still look for trouble in the next future. Malu are easy to predict. |
Bristol floors Georgetown thoughYeah, I agree but its still a s/h/i/t university dont you think so http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alumni_of_the_University_of_Bristol Come on James Blunt, Tons of Comedians How elite can you get ![]() |
I am replaying the video over and over again and laughing my arse off.Word, I have taped Bristol Next to my computer screen so that anytime I feel depressed , and I see you online I just start laughing ![]() |
Hehe I am laughing too because you went to Bristol See how we both dey laugh craze ![]() Bristol oooh ![]() |
You are confident know where I studied?Duh, even your grammar is a dead giveaway ![]() Come on, only a bristol grad cannot structure a sentence well. You should at least have tried to retake Jamb and get into Unilag or OAU. You would have encountered better minds there than the Chavs and Council flat people in Bristol. |
How can they do SSCE and come to England and pay home fees?Ode, the fact that they are still in university, while I have finished for quite a while tells you what? Yeah I am quite familiar with teh 3-year residency rule thank you. Sucks though these daft kids are at Bristol. Next thing you know they will arrive naija and start saying (In a british accent): This is not professional, this is not how we do it at bristol Man dont understand why companies hire those with foreign pali when their are better talents in naija sef . |
Hmm, you would know the school is close to your Uni ![]() So how does it feel graduating from a s/h/i/t university? What you did not get into Unilag or OAU? It sucks, dont worry so many of you are plenty. Lots of people who cannot crack Nigerian universities then their parents ship them to the UK I did not go to university.Nah, you went to Bristol. Your laughter is just swagger. On your laptop right now you are probably pissed off. That is why you reply me post by post. If you did not go to Bristol why are you so adamant? Come on claim your school. Then we can be done. I need to start doing some work , but I want you to say proudly I went to Bristol , come on I will buy you Tom Tom ![]() Trust me though, I will forever feel ultimately superior to you. By the way stop lying. The reason you started attacking me was because I hurt your ego on a debate and in which in which I said Nottingham was an average university not because of Chiogo. Then you specifically opened up a thread to know where I went to school. Then I asked you to delete the thread- If you did we would have been friends. You renamed it then changed your mind and undeleted it probably thinking in your sadistic mind "let me show this boy pepper". Then you claimed it was not possible to change it. What you did not know was that I noticed what you did. Thats when I started becoming really rude to you. Trust me this is 100% of your arrogant dickhead fault. You are also very rude and arrogant on Nairaland. Infact you are worse than I am. But you feel justified that its you. I can safely say I act s/t/u/pidly on Nairaland. You cannot? Can you spot the difference? Thats why I can laugh when I know all your arrogance comes from just that? ![]() |
Shut Up, You attended Bristol ![]() , You know its not a guess ![]() You keep clutching to straws. LOL, ashamed of his undergrad ![]() I said get on average grades that are equivalent to A1 in SSCE but lower standards for foreign fees paying students, and yet, using his self-acclaimed "High IQ", he lists fictional "tons of" foreign based students that did not get the equivalent grades as his example to disprove my point of what home based students getOde, who told you they were foreign? A lot of them had British passports and would be termed home students since they would be paying home fees. Oponu. You sharp? like what a pencil Thats the problem, you are too daft to see my arguments, and then instead of concluding that you are daft you keep going. Bristol Grad who cares if you can beat a Harvard PhD in debate in your mind- (Such bullcrap)- most likely you will be spewing crap and the Harvard PhD will not be able to understand what you are saying. But in your mind they are the ones that are not intelligent. You think they will let a bristol grad into a harvard PhD , the Big-H is snobby as hell. |
That said, they do not take people based on SATs, they take based on SAT II or AP scores.Reeetard, and you claim to know the system? You dont even know the system you schooled in at all. Oponuuuu ![]() Hmmm . . . you must be original olodo sha. You cannot even read critically, you just read, and post what you read online. |
@Sagamite You got into OAU for mathematis sebi. Hmm keep on going. Sebi you dey speak not of what you know not? Who dash you OAU? Who dash monkey banana? First you claimed LSE, then you switched to Cambridge, then now you are trying to claim OAU. Keep going on? Who cares about Oxbridge? You know nothing yet ?? Oxford has not had a Nobel in 20 years and in your eyes they are performing? Ode. Bristol graduate. Mumu. UK graduates that cannot produce one innovative thing to save their lives. All they can do is make claims. Dude I am out. Producing Comedians after Comedians, your education in Bristol was a waste. Hahahaahahahahahh. Bonafide Ivy grad. fstranger would easily crack Oxford for sure if I can see my friends who are at Oxford. Just because all you could make was Bristol does not mean anything. I am 100% confident that any Nigerian who cracks a 1400 can make it to Oxford. Or at worse Imperial Definitely not Bristol. Bristol is more like if you were ranked in the 200th in Nigeria and could not crack OAU or Unilag. You claim that you got into OAU, who dash monkey banana? You think Nigerian Universities accept dullards without money? You that dont know an iota of pure mathematics. Maybe you meant you bribed your way into OAU? An average Durham undergrad student is better academically than a Georgetown one.Hmm na so be your conclusion? Hahah because Durham is better than Bristol? You are just spewing crap, I know tons of private kids with no A1 at Nottingham and Durham and definitely at Bristol. I went to school with them, they did not get a single A1. Infact even some british grads in my group would think you are spewing nonsense. You are such a liar. Even one of my friends who is a UK-Citizen goes to KCL, and she did not get EVEN get one A1 in WAEC. Stop deceiving yourself. Moreover all the kids, that I encountered at UCL who were daft where did they come from? They are definitely no match for the Top 25Haha, UK undergrads that cannot even integrate and differentiate even after getting at least a "B" in A-levels F-Math. So you are no more claiming Oxbridge and LSE. OAU for math Phuck me twice . So that means you took further math- Really You?The guy has started claiming better and better universities 4A1 at schools like Nottingham? Bristol? Man this guy just dey lie dey lie dey lie ooohh No Nigerian student with 4A1 in the sciences will end up at worst at UCL. Just the fact that the large majority of 4A 1 students will never leave the shore of Nigeria. Man liar liar for world amen, people dey lie amen, people dey lie amen, black man dey lie amen- Fela Kuti Done with this crap, I need to do some work. But dude go and hug a transformer, you went to Bristol: http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/table/2010/jun/04/university-league-table No its not 6th after UCL as you placed it in your subjective ranking . Get over yourself. There are at least 8 solid schools in the UK ahead of Bristol- so you are at least at a top 40 US university at most. Deal with it.You really have nothing that I am interested in now that I know you attended Bristol. Or are you unfortunate too in some ranking? ![]() Would you mind if I borrowed something from your dictionary- M/O/RON ![]() |
Sounds like a waste of your talent and earnings potential, imo Undecided But your patriotism is admirable.Well Nigeria needs professors and some of us have to do it. Been to Unilag and UI and I feel really depressed because less and less of the lecturers even have PhDs. Moreover can you imagine how much I will be collecting for selling hand-outs? I have already started typing up my own handouts. And the hot girls I would get to sleep with so that they can pass? And the free housing I get? Man u are underestimating the benefits of a Nigerian Professor I will get laid consistently, have a steady, and undisturbed flow of cash, and have free housing too. See if an MBB firm can match that. Man I am going to get an email/personal image from the moderator for sure. LOL another sefago derailed thread. I gotta stop this. |
I basically thought the same way you did until I went to a couple info sessions this week. For the small boutique firm, the trader I was talking to has a PhD in Chemistry. Chinese guy, did some nanoscience stuff. Absolutely no business background, just extremely smart and good at math.Haha code monkey. Man dust your JAVA and C++ books and get ready for some fun. They probably were just trying to sell it to you. Yeah true, true try and get your foot in. But I would advise you to try consulting though. Less stressful and you get to the same place. not everything in life is about money. As for me I plan to do a post-doc then go and teach at Unilag. So no fame and glory and money for me, but contributing to the development of my countrymen. Wow@ that story. Not planning to go into tests like that. Good thing you scored well anyways.Yeah, and your undergrad matters lot. I kind of find this stupid but a lot of professors place importance on where you went to for undergrad. So if you did well at a top school you get tons of extrapoints. Scrutinize that website carefully and you would see lots of ivy grads getting average GREs and getting into the top places. |
lol, 990 on the Physics GRE, God help me. That's going to be an uphill climb.Go edo boy. From what I gathered from discussing with people who took the test, you just need to know a few equations and practise a lot of questions. Dont try and review your physics notes for it. Try and do old exams? I was reviewing for my own subject test which was kind of daft, then took practise exams at 12 in the night the day before the exam, I then finished practising at 5 took a 2 hour nap and headed to do the exam. Dumbest thing I ever did, I drooled on my exam paper. I woke up half way through and managed to get a good score. Nice website: http://www.physicsgre.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3421&start=50 Dont use nairaland for a month and just focus. Its just a one time thing. Think of how proud your parents will be when You finish. As we yoruba say Mama Dokita ati Papa Dokita. But saying Engineering, esp Chem, is dead is garbage. Engineering is one subject that will always get you a good paying job no matter where you are, imo.I said research in Chem Eng is dead. I did not voice that view myself. A couple of people who are focussed on Chem Eng have told me that consistently. Even Shell is funding more and more bio-based projects. Moreover I am a Chem Eng person why the hate? |
We need to start feeding hungry lions with this gays and lesbians. They are morally bankrupt.Really why dont we start with you? Wanna be the appetizer? |
Yep, Wallstreet is the best option financially for a math or physics PhD. The pay-scales are eyepopping.So they say. But goodluck trying to crack sales and trading with a PhD. The guys in IB dont like too much school ooh. They would likely put the PhD in the equity research department at best or quantitative finance. They prefer undergrads or people with work experience for S&T |
But seriously, is it true the most physicist end up on Wall street?Previously yes. Before the great recession all the physicists were heading to wall street to do quantitative finance and build models (that never work) to predict the market. Lots of theoretical chemists too, in fact it was estimated that 25% of the PhD students at Harvard Chemistry at some point went into consulting or investment banking. Then yawa burst and the market collapsed. Physicist have a lot of brainpower and its a very difficult subject. Especially the theoretical side. Done some physics for a while and its just too much theory, and they guys are a bit simplistic in how the model behavior. I kind of understand why they helped wreck the world economy. Stop phuccing ridiculing Biology ( looks around for Oga Katsumoto). Someone needs to talk sense into your head!But I am a Bio-person?? Just being realistic. Making PhysicsMHD ready for a bumpy ride. At least he should know how competitive, and not just throw in 2-3 applications then wait for grad school. Hustle down 10-15 schools boy and start going to church. Physics is very competitive, biology has been expanding consistently so the labs are huge. Just dont want him to make the mistake other people i know did- seems like a smart guy, he should really study hard in his GRE Physics- thats very very important to Physics departments way more than in other departments where the GRE subject test is generally disregarded |
raise eyebrow!Come on- all the Chem Eng Departments that have Biological and Biomolecular attached to their names. All the BioMEMs and Systems Biology Research going on in Mech Eng Bio Bio Bio. Engineering is a dead field especially chemical engineering. lol, finance? Never. I'd sooner become a lowly patent examiner. (Like Einstein Cool)You could go into strategy consulting? Lots of Physicist are recruited by Mckinsey, Bain, BCG and Booz and to a lesser extent Deloitte and Accenture. Yeah there are not that many blacks in physics. You might have a shot though it is claimed that no affirmative action goes on in graduate school, but I kind of got letters from HYPSM claiming that I was one of the best candidates to their program (I am no fool, I kind of interpreted it as you are black, you are decently smart, and you have good test scores, voulez vous couchez avec nous?). A lot of the professors were also calling me and being really nice to me, offering to fly me in and pay for my hotels e.t.c just to see teh school. I knew all this special attention came from somewhere So you might have a shot at the best. All I know is that get into a top 30 physics school is like a top ten in chemistry and top 5 in biology. Try and get a 990 in the GRE physics and you are set ![]() |
True, the biochemists and chemists are really doing well now. It seems we are long far away from the days of Watson and Crick and the PCR guy.Yep truly. Interesting though how science has shifted to all things bio. Even the engineers are now trying to join the bio age and bask in the glory. Last decade was the dot.com boom. Now its biotech and medicine. I was biotech when biotech wasn't even cool. |
I'm not going to mention my university here, sorry. Privacy thing. Not that many blacks and/or Nigerians in the U.S. go into physics and I already gave away which Nigerian ethnic group I belong to so if I said where I was at, it wouldn't be too hard to search the phys department website, look through research groups and pin me down. Also, not a grad student yet, though I've been active in research. I'm retaking the Physics GRE and then applying this semester. Took it last semester, didn't do as well as I hoped (because its hard as hell.)Man the GRE Physics is so difficult. I took my GRE subject test in the UK about a year and a half ago or two years? cannot remember. There was a post-doc from imperial college who did her PhD at MIPT (Moscow Institute- aka effing geniuses) and she found the Physics GRE hard. There were so many people retaking that exam so dont feel bad. I know at least when I took it, a girl from Univeristy of Colorado who was doing her masters at Oxford in Physics, Another American doing his masters in Cambridge were all retaking the exam. Also let me warn you before hand from previous experience. Graduate school admission for physics is insanely tough. Infact I spent a lot of time on the PhysicsGRE.com website looking through their profiles and I freaked out last year. I do biophysics myself, but I went through another department. Not going to sit the physics GRE lai lai. In terms of difficulty Physics>>>>Chemistry=Biochemistry>> Biology |
What are you smoking?I thought university of Utah was good for medicine? I always considered them very good fo medicine, infact they have a famous hospital. Or is it Brigham Young? You know I was premed, before I decided that medicine was not for me. What was he anyways- a doctor or a biochemist. All the nobels go to biochemists nowadays in chemistry or medicine. Interested to know. @PhysicsMHD Who is your friend in the football team? If he is Nigerian I definitely know him. I know like all the Nigerians in the football team during my year though most are igbo. Missed those guys, cool people definitely not Biafra loving or tribalistic at all like Ezeuche. All though they made fun of my nigerian accent they were always ready to play wingman when I hit on girls. I'm not going to mention my university here, sorry. Privacy thing. Not that many blacks and/or Nigerians in the U.S. go into physics and I already gave away which Nigerian ethnic group I belong to so if I said where I was at, it wouldn't be too hard to search the phys department website, look through research groups and pin me downWord, I have done it a couple of times for people on NL. However, I never tell them I did it since it would make them uncomfortable. |
Anywaz, thanks to SEFAGO and his blown up mensa ego, the topic has been soooooooo derailedI love you too. Come and untie your iro in my room joor let us leave all these nerds behind. |
Cambridge is also apparently top notch for good for physics and math.There is not that much of a gap between UT Austin and Havard in terms of research. I meant for example do you expect to find a top researcher at the University of Tennessee? No, but you will find some genius researcher at the University of Central Lancaster (hope i spelt that right). Yeah Cambridge is awesome for physics one of the best. I really would love to work at Cambridge to be honest. Its my dream school to work at. |
Why are you making assumptions? Why don't let you let him tell you how long he stayed in the UK and in what capacity. Its like someone doing a 5 week program at a university and referring to himself as an alumnus.Really who told you I went once? Who told you I went only twice? Who told you how long? Ok, I will be honest with you. I was not the one who started this "my university is better than yours crap." Sagamite did. He said I went to a mediocre school and he is significantly superior to mine. I relaxed, I thought well for you to make that claim you must have went to Cambridge. Anytime I try to debate on Gay rights, he will take a quote and be like: [ Insert] Is this what they taught you at your mediocre university [insert] he will start claiming that the fact that I got a 1500+ after I took the SAT the second time shows I am mediocre and average. Apparently the 1440 I got reading under the candle the first time with only one SAT textbook was mediocre sebi? He found this information and kept on posting it on nairaland continuously. very personal info, I had given out when I was 16 and naive. Speak not of what you know not. He even went as far as to make his own subjective ranking placing University of bristol next to Cornell. He goes around calling people m/orons. You should be chastising him, for generalizing not me. This has nothing to do with you- let it be. I respect people based on their character not the school they went to. [quote][/quote] |
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, greet all the babes there for me ooo. Or not
, so you are even mediocre in the UK?
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