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Hmmm Igbo kwenu Eh, Kwenu Eh, Kwezeonu

you guys have man Ezes and Igwes of fraud sha

@fstranger

No chick is worth 100,000 dollars except she has a golden puccy and I dont mean blonde girls

Mama-gee abeg which one you be for you picture?

Abeg lets talk business, I am already bored with this homo talk, still the same group of people. I thought tensor would be someone cool to debate with but he is like a zero. Worse than I have encountered. Even worse than the religious fanatics who dismiss homos based on religious grounds. The guy don define his own definition of natural and unnatural without if stopping for a minute and say wait could this just be "my own ignorant opinion"


In general tensor follow my style of questioning when ever I have a belief. First question- Why do I hold these beliefs? Second Question-Are these beliefs valid for everyone or only in the context of my own selfishness?

Moreover, there is a significant relation between the immaterial and matter. None of us understand it, and no scientist is going to take your claim that looking for such a link is "nonsensical." Obviously if we seek an agreement of science with logic, no physicist can claim that time travel is possible since in all logical context time travel leads to an illogical conclusion (I could be my own father, and grandfather if time travel was possible) and so no one has tried to build a time machine since philosophy must always agree with science. How there is no contradiction in believing that our genes itself influence our behavior. Adrenaline makes us faster and sometimes smarter and sometimes aggressive. Some female hormones make some girls Hot while others asexual. Its not part of the mind. Its just a mess of genes.

Moreover, it now takes ethics to determine if that behavior is morally right in the context of our society. When you move from science to ethics the question becomes tricky. Because scientists think with logic, homophobes think with emotion. However homophobes are a member of society and do have a right to their own opinions on how they want society to be structured. I would suggest however, that you learn to articulate your points more clearly. So that you dont look daft. Good luck in your endeavors.

Mark the Day on your calendar- January 28th, the day you encountered my beautiful mind

Anyhoo, I am interested in meeting someone intellectually engaging. No one here meets that criteria. I might as well be nice to mama-gee since I am looking for a girlfriend on nairaland.

So which one are you- Far left, right or middle?


PS: Dont any of you like go out, have friends or party  . I understand my own plight but its a friday guys listen to mama-gee, go and out

I still cannot believe the sentences they gave these guys- are they for real? I might as well go into crime

I will get laid significantly, drive masseratis and then go to jail for just 3-4 years for pleading guilty.

Man phuck education

trust naija man. He could have spent the time screwing tons of girls in the red light district in amsterdam instead of playing Igwe in America.

Only a very unintelligent Scientist , unaware of the basic correlation that needs to be established about age and coherrent adult consent , would make that patently flawed comparison.


Racism , in the main , is about adults discriminating against other adults on account of their race.

Homosexuality is generally defined as sexual intercouse between male adults .

Paedophilia is generally accepted to be a situation where an adult has sex with a child.

Necrophilia involves the practice of having sex with a cadaver ( a dead body).

Racism can therefore not be compared to paedophilia or Necrophilia because the child the paedophile preys upon is not a consenting adult and the cadaver the necrophilic individual debases is not a consenting or coherrent adult.

Inversely , racism can directly be compared to homophobia because both requires adults to 'live and let live' to understand that one cannot be prejudiced , enough to act malevolently , over the actions of those seen in the eyes of the law as legitimate adults. The black man is recognised as an adult with inalienable rights . Gay men , as long as they are involved with other gay adult men , should not be the target of summary execution because non of us can provide satisfactory argument , devoid of emotion, that consenting adult men should be executed because they wish to have a sexual relationship.

Well the people talking are not scientists. Why are you replying to them? Most cannot even survive the rigor or critical thinking involved in a science curriculum.

That is just rubbish as you don't know that for sure especially if the girl is post pubescent. There is nothing unnatural about sex with a post pubescent teenager by the way.
However I am still at a loss to see what exactly faggottry gas to do with sex. On the contrary it is merely a manifestation of mental and spiritual sickness.

Really Really? You don shack paraga for this friday night no be small. Bros, abeg pass me some Alchy

Amuse me and answer. Maybe you were in the "top 2%" for SATs when you re-sat it

Oh my here we go again. Na by force to look for my trouble. I have accepted that University of Bristol is the best university in the world. Abeg let me be . Even my HYP PhD will never touch it.

Where is the depth and originality in your analysis Sefago?

I dont expect you to see it. Really I never did. You would not know originality if you saw one. Its in the "spirit"

Olodo Pangolo

A lot of illogical arguments in favour of faggottry on this thread.
Okay if faggottry is genetic then why are paedophilia, bestiality, violation and necrophillia not seen to be genetic also.
It is even stupidly nonsensical to attribute something that is conceived in the mind and the spirit to genetic factors.
What gene would make a man to seek to mix his organ in another man's dung for instance. Huh
Some people here have indeed lost the plot big time. SMH

Bros, you dont know when logic is shoved in your face. Stop talking about logic.

It is even stupidly nonsensical to attribute something that is conceived in the mind and the spirit to genetic factors.

Maybe to you. But who cares about you? Its not as if you know anything about neuroscience. Just sitting down there with your low IQ talking about things you dont understand. Of the "spirit and the mind" WTF, and someone actually agreed with you. Thats why I believe people should at least take one or two science classes before they join the workforce.

Wait so what about intelligence which is part of the "mind" (you probably mean non-phenotypic factor)?

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/03/090317142841.htm

LOL, So Sexual behaviour is not influenced by genes no more- so how is female sexuality and male sexuality built. By social conditioning or by hormones expressed as a result of genes? Ewoooo, let us pass tensor a nobel laureate  

And people vex when white people say africans have low intelligence. No wonder when tensor is representing us on the world stage

You have shown vividly from your post that you have very little knowledge about research, I am very doubtful you are a scientist!!!, no disrespect.

LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL. Speak not of what you know not man. Thats all I have to say.

can you explain what what you mean by racism and homosexuality stemming from the same primitive fear of the unknown??, hmm

The same primitive thought that makes us believe that a God must exists. Its called evolutionary instinct. I its what all human beings have that make us survive, that have made us grow and in our arrogance to assume that our own moral law stemming from the primitive fear of the unfamiliar is the ultimate.

I never said I expected "all" scientists to work on validating homosexuality as a phenomenon, I simply said, if you read carefully, that based on the research conclusions that I have read, Im  not convinced, sue me!!!

You never said that. But anyways the point being you would never be convinced. Its your personal opinion and truly even if someone discovers with irrevocable proof that homosexuals are born gay, you will never accept. Chikena? Moreover its impossible to prove that homos are born gay. What you are asking for is difficult for any biologists to do. The first line would be to determine something at the systems level that is common to gay people, then move on to the molecular level. That would take years. Years that could be spent on HIV and cancer research to just show some bigots that they are i/d/iots (Man check out my rhymes)

Bros you are asking for too much. Most of the research on gay people are not really in depth anyways for many reasons i choose not to highlight.

You have indeed lost the plot. Yes by saying that babies are born with faggott genes you are effectively saying they are born gay. All the rest is mere semantics which I have no time for.
Anyway I say you do show evidence of brainwashing as all the pro-faggott activists sound as if they are reading from the same script.

Nah, they are not born with gay genes. Genes dont even work that way. It could depend on the level of expression of a gene for example that could affect if someone was gay. Gene networks are difficult to map anyways. So no one is born with genes for anything per se. As I said it would be difficult for non-science people to understand.

Anyways, seems you have no arguments, I might as well let you off the hook. I thought I was going to meet someone up to my level. Bleh. Where is deepsight the guy seems like a fun guy to debate with.


As they say the Super Eagles does not play with the Falcons.

They are all perverts. Anyway a faggott is far more peverted than a guy who sleeps with a post pubescent teenager as the first act is abominable and against human nature itself.

Kai, your arguments are so weak I wanna  . Pray did human nature complain to you? What is this human nature you are talking off? Who has defined the precepts of this human nature? Most importantly, how does a taking advantage of a minor be less of a crime than consensual s/e/x. Abeg bros pass me the ogogoro u dey drink make i shack am too and be saying daft stuff

Let's also be realistic and say that a faggott would be very reluctant too hit on a random adult guy in the street as he might just get his head kicked in but would have no such compunctions in seeking the companionship of a helpless or vulnerable child.

Really? So you dont know gay people can tell each other even from just talking to each other? When most gays reach puberty they mistakenly of course might hit on random guys but as they grow older and find out that their sexuality is seen as an aberration by society, they hangout more with each other anyways and just do the same things. You have heard of gay bars and night clubs? Lots of adult men running around why screw a child.

Do you really know anything about gay culture or are u just pulling stuff out of your arse?

SEFAGO you see where you have lost the plot. Clearly you are pro faggott maybe because you have been brainwashed by concerted coercive media power to be so and you have faggott friends.
You are now saying that faggotts are born that way even though there is no reason whatsoever to believe that a baby is predisposed to be a pervert and and would grow up seeking to mix his organ with a dung-hole.
Missing the bigger picture of NURTURE. Don't you know that sex abusers and faggotts grew up in abusive homes where violation and defilement are the order of the day.
It is in these abusive environments that perverted thoughts are conceived and nurtured and ultimately acted upon.

Yes, I do have gay friends. They are smarter than you, more accomplished than you, and have led more rewarding lives than you can imagine. Most importantly they have shown the quality of deep compassion for their fellow men which I value in all individuals and place far ahead of the aforementioned.

No, I was not brainwashed. How do you know? Do you even know me?  

Why are you mentioning a baby. Are babies in their puberty sexual maturity. Do babies express the same hormones as adults. Mugun. However, everything that regulates hormonal expression and subsequently sexual characteristics is buried deep in the DNA waiting to be expressed later in the future. See why I said only scientists should talk and not ignorant social scientists.

Missing the bigger picture of NURTURE. Don't you know that sex abusers and faggotts grew up in abusive homes where violation and defilement are the order of the day.

I would agree to some extent that society and environment can repress homosexuality for the time being. This is of course based on anecdotes and research i did in the past (unlike you I actually have studied Homosexuality for academic purposes of course  ). However it never lasts long. However, all the gay people I have met grew up in perfectly stable homes. Are you just stating what is in your subconscious? So of the millions of gay people in america all of them grew up in violent homes. Man I cannot believe you just typed this crap.

Where is my paddy fstranger. Try and get him into your homophobe circle so that he can lend you some support. At least while not holding a mensa certificate he still demonstrates some intelligence.

For example would you post this if a paedophile were lynched. They too have their own "preferences" and beliefs remember.

Ok let me get this straight. You compare pedophiles to homosexuals. This sounds perfectly logical to you. Someone compares homophobia to racism, and homophobes cannot see the parallel. Subjectivity is dead . Aristotle would be rolling in his grave right now.

WTF does pedophiles have to do with homos.

In relation to the arguement on the thread, I am totally against homosexuality as I feel it is somewhat diabolical and on the borderline of been insane to engage in such activities, but then that is just my opinion and i will not shove it down anyone's throat, I do  believe  however that gay activists have smartly tried to equate their existence and survival by erroneously making comparisons with racisim, those mentioned phenomena have nothing in common. I keep hearing this analogy that some people are born gay , which are usually supported by some scientific researchers. I agree that I am not a typical scientist, well not the natural scientist but a social scientist

Good so you know nothing about science at all. It would do well to shut up, and let those who know science decide whether people are born gay. Yes, its perfectly logical to equate racism to homosexuality because they both stem from the same primitive fear of the unknown, of what the ignorant see as the unnatural

If you cannot see the similarity between racism and homosexuality then I will be honest- you must have a low IQ. Moreover, you dont expect all scientist anyways to be working on proving homosexuals are born gay. Some of us have more important things to do, and expect people to draw experiential and logical comparisons with no need for proof.

You are comparing Osama to him?  

You think Osama has all the vices and greediness that this guy has? A thiefs weakness is his vices. This guy cannot stay underground and not do something stupid. Seems he loves fine women and expensive cars- one way or the other, even if he stays underground for 10 years and resurfaces, they will still catch him. They will not close his file till they have confirmed that he is dead.

Conned the telecom oparetor to give out info about him and the FBI agent that is on his phone. This the kinda stuff you see in Hollywood Movies. Diff voice(Young,Middle aged and Old). Just like Frank Jr(Pilot, Doctor, etc). When caught he will serve but he will be useful to FB after hiz sentence.

Yeah right the way Madoff and the enron executives are useful to the FBI. The guy go dey prison long tym. Anyhow to be honest, i think its kind of worth it to go to prison for 10 years and gbadun your life for 4 years.

He did not con anyone. The operator was covering his/her arse for being negligent and s/t/u/pid. Probably trying to save her already lost job lol.

Its not that hard to fake voices- I have to say nothing is special about him lol. Give awon boiz in lagos who sleep in the cybercafe the opportunity to go to the US and they would even bring down a whole investment bank lol.

And he still remains free after taking so much money.

You think so? You dont know the FBI yet. The guy is probably out of circulation. Read between the lines, look at the life sentence they gave some of his accomplices. 4-5 years lol after pleading guilty. They gave even one of them only two years. You think that person got two years for free? Or he made a deal?

Where will he run to- naija? Naija were your brother will sell you for 50 naira. They will be monitoring his family too, and all his sisters. Once you appear on the FBI radar you are gone.

Fstranger said it all

He worked in a bank- as a loan officer, he knows how the system works. Have you noticed that all the scams by Nigerians are done by those who worked previously in the banks? You think you can pull that off by not working in the system?

Why should I be jealous, I could probably pull one too, all i need is a job at a bank.

Try and call a Nigerian bank and ask them for the account information of someone and see if they will give it to you over the phone. I regularly access the accounts of friends over the phone anytime I need to withdraw money from a friends account. They just give me their social security and tell me some of the security questions and its fine.

The US commercial banking system is porous because there is so much money in the country. Try and withdraw 150,000 naira from anyones bank account in naija. When the bank sends automatic text to the person na only god will help you.

Read about this story from a victim. The scams are usually the same. Infact they tried to pull the same scam on me once, and I called them, and immediately they started faking oyibo accent, I started calling them oloriburuku in because i knew theyw ere obviously yoruba 

http://www.kcra.com/station/10259511/detail.html

"They said they cashed them because I was a good customer. They didn't hold the checks, they didn't verify the funds, they took the fact that I was a good customer. If I'm a good customer, then you should be looking out for my best interest," Kindall said.

Even BofA do very few verifications on checks and I have seen this in action myself

I dont still understand why eevryone is impressed. Do you know how porous the american banking system is? His scamming will not even work in naija. Its very easy to transfer money from someones bank account to your account without the person being notified in the US.

his "ingenuity" is as a result of a badly set up system.

LOL

Sefago grabs pop corn, sits down, and gets ready for his friday morning entertainment

Europeans- The Portuguese, the british, the spanish, then these slaves were sold in American colonies

big difference

^ yeah right Americans were the one who did the slave trade

Let us take care of the countless murderers, ritualists, occultists, embezzlers, and other such characters that dot our socio-political and economic landscape before bordering our heads with small 'yahoo yahoo' boys who prefer to use their brains (rightly or wrongly) than resort to armed robbery which is infinitely worse for the rest of society.

Ritualist, Yahoo Yahoo boys, trying to judge the magnitude of a crime is difficult. They really are in the same league

Ok lets say a man on the brink of bankruptcy gets scammed by a nigerian. The guy finds out that he has been scammed and that his life is in further ruin. Thats the last straw that cracks the camels back. He heads over to the bridge and jumps off. What makes the scammer morally better than an armed robber.

I personally think we should be considering the death penalty to scammers and looters and money launderers. At least large scale ones.


On a sidenote, You should be also aware that Chinua Achebe is very detribalized. The guy is a genius- infact as arrogant as I am, i dont think i would be half as smart as he is in my life time. The depth of his thinking is just ridiculous. I have never encountered the work of any Nigerian that is as good as that. His commentary on the Biafra war it self was unrivaled. Pure genius. Nevertheless, I think he sees himself, like I do (geniuses think alike you know), as Nigerian first and ethnic group second

Fela Kuti though would be the second most popular nigerian. met so many people from all over the world who know the real first black president

namfav:
achebe the most famous nigerian?   the most recognizable african name?   , get over yourself bush boy, he is not even the best writer in nigeria, let alone the whole africa, climb off your high horse bush boy

Its possible- Chinua Achebe is probably the most famous Nigerian. However Mandela is the most famous African probably.

Aigbofa:
This is the problem I have with some of you ibos, a thief is a thief no matter what. If you catch a Yoruba man trying to rob you, I swear, I will join you in beating the daylight out of him.
ibos are not like that, all the thief have to say is nna, biko and he is no longer a thief, but your brother!

I have to agree. Seems people tend to absolve people from their crimes based on ethnic group. I am sure Ezeuche would not make the same excuse for yoruba 419-er. A thief is a thief whether he stole from his people or he stole from oyibo, you still hurt lives. The people that this young guy stole from, did it occur to you that he must have wrecked some people's lives?

People who have nothing to do with "African oppression" have had their children college funds and bank accounts wiped out because of 419 fraud. I have nearly gotten scammed at least twice by my "brothers" abroad. They no look skin color before they were sending me  emails that I have won $1 million dollars or that I should give money to some african prince. There is no justification for it.

i don't know which nigerians you are refering to because in my culture thiefs are not celebrated

U sure? Rich people are celebrated in Nigeria. Having money is the goal of most Nigerians. Its not about thieves per se but the fact that the only achievement in Nigeria we glorify is making money.

How many chieftaincy titles does chinua achebe have? How many do these scammers get?

^ Dont forget Maurice Ibekwe who was also in the national assembly. I remember the good days of Victor Okafor (Ezeego) and Anajemba, Fred Ajudua, when people claimed those guys made money from rituals and blood money (Nigerians and superstition) because they were dying randomly. People were too daft to figure out that these guys were scammers and maybe their co-business men were eliminating them. See how these guys would just be spending money all over naija. These guys were legends when i was a kid, you would just see them all over newspapers with city people profiling their houses with glass chandeliers and 10+ bedroom mansions. Funny, I was so envious and wanted the same type of life they did not knowing what they did to get it.

Let us be honest (Nigerians glorify robbers- not just igbo). See how some of these scammers have nice chieftaincy titles

http://www.kwenu.com/publications/nworah/john_nebolisa.htm

http://dawodu.com/oduyela2.htm

Those were the days when they use to raid cybercafes in nigeria trying to find petty scammers

why do u wanna know 

Here is a range:

2000-2005. You forget Emeagwali- the father of the internet is Nigerian. you dont believe that there was internet in Nigeria in 2000?

Dont know why its such a big deal. It was quite common place, people used the proceeds to buy cell phones and gifts for their girlfriends.

Anyways nerds like me were not let in on the secret, I kind of figured out myself what they were doing

Was there internet in Nigeria when you were 14?

Yes, there was. In general most students I knew would camp in cybercafes either watching p/o/rn , or doing online scams. Yes they started doing it from age 14, and not just them but a lot of students in the area. Its really not that hard- you should be aware that when the internet started most information that was transmitted was not that secure, and kind of leaves a trace in cyberspace. These guys would spend hours inputting different numbers and expiration dates on Amazon and ebay

You are so full of it

I have decided to make a new month resolution not to boast online or to flame people and be generally courteous. however there are still a couple of days left till february. So, dont tempt me . . .

In no way am I trying to idolize or glorify what he did. Just pointing out how tough it is to do what he did. Not even 1 in 1000 people could do it, I think.

Maybe 1 in a 1000 in sheltered America. When I was in secondary school, i knew kids age 14 who used to generate credit card numbers from an online site and use the card to buy stuff to be sent to Nigeria. This was till every retailer stopped shipping things to Nigeria. If these guys have the opportunity to get into the West, they would make this guy probably look like an amateur at

Come on, you cannot say "eka aro" in the middle of london and not get at least 50 people giving you a reply.

have you ever even been to america ? yale and harvard are places for sale. if you are rich or famous you will get in. the slot allocated to meritocracy is probably like 30 percent of the whole student body. the rest is fame and money. why do you think all these actors after their career go there to buy a spot to do a course ?

You must be smoking pot. So all the famous scientists and geniuses that Havard and Yale churns out from undergrad are what? Yes every top US university has a VIP list but that plus athletes+affirmative action admits and legacy admits are 10% of the student body. Even these people are probably smarter than the average individual

This thread is quite silly like the OP who started it- it depends more on the child