₦airaland Forum

SarakiBukola:
Where Tinubu worked before he went into public service... all your lineage combined, past , present and future can't be gatemen in those offices.

Not an insult BUT Google is your friend.

Sorry my friend if the truth is harsh / bitter.

lol. Tinubu worked in Mobil (is it?)...I currently work in Qatar Petroleum nothing further to add. I'm sure many of you think we are your mates simply because we are on nairaland with you

Yoruba people are truly blessed with human resources. In Nigeria they have sound people like Fashola. Abroad they have been serially elected into leadership position.
However they want to present to us a man that can be said to be the worst governor of Lagos since 1999... simply because he knows how to use his money to install people into offices for rent seeking.
Buhari would be a thousand times better than tinubu. Buhari has one thing Tinubu doesn't...that is an anti corruption reputation. Tinubu has nothing buhari doesn't. For we are not sure Tinubu learnt anything from university

zhike:
Nigerians are regarded as one of the intelligent people on earth , do they really use their intelligence correctly.

They elect wrong Leaders?
They are killing each other in the name of religion.
They are unable to build good schools, hospital and clinics.
They are unable to clean their cities
Leaders are unable to feed their nation?
They are unable to hold their leaders accountable or maybe they are coward

is that how the whites ruled Mzansi?

IronGalaxy:
ANC logic.

when u bantu negroes were disturbing everybody's peace to lead a complex nation like SA, you didnt know you lacked the mental capacity? you guys will ruin that country and blame it on nigerians and zimbabwens as usual

TMKsouth:
I have plenty of decent conversations with Nigerians on this forum, and I'm a respectable guest (unlike most Nigerians in SA, the source of the tensions). I even treated you with respect on my recent thread about the guy kicked out of the mall. You the one who went looking for trouble over there undermining SA cultures - as you just admitted you hate everything South African so this was your opportunity to vent.

So I think you the one with the problem. I'm not gonna sit and take it when people disrespect my country and people. Nairaland is an online platform accessable to all corners of the globe and it is for that reason people like IronGalaxy, JaceBlaze and I refuse to let unfair anti-SA propaganda to go unchallenged. Respect is a two-way street.

I am not the one with the problem. I have never been to south Africa...I have no intention what's so ever to visit SA in the near future. I don't know any south African forums...I don't have any south African friends. I don't use any south African product that I know of and I have no family and friends living in South Africa. So ask me why would I dislike a country I have no connection to? It's because of people like you here. It's because the stories coming out of your country ain't good. You again boldly state that most Nigerians in SA are not respectable! How did you come up with that statistics? From University of Shaka Zulu? Your country has an image problem.

A pariah nazi state under white rule
A xenophobic gang state under black rule

TMKsouth:
How did you come to this conclusion about me/us (feeling superior)?

I have followed your activities here... you and the irongalaxy dude. You two don't have much good to say about Nigerians or your fellow Africans from the south of Africa for that matter


Plus the xenophobia against blacks in South Africa makes me hate anything South African.

I have been a victim of hate from a South African black in far away Qatar. Dude passed me over to vote an Indian for a leadership position. When I confronted him, his only response was to flare up and tell me that he is no brother to any Nigerian and that he hates Nigerians more than anything.

Makes me wonder what's up with y'all really. Even a quick scroll through your posts reveals one where you guys were hating on African Americans arriving your country. Do only word I associate with a South African is 'hate'
You hate whites
You hate Africans
You hate Indians

Damn you all..
We hate you too

TMKsouth:
Dude, like only 15% of SA population is Zulu. That's 12 million Zulus out of a population of 60 million.

But OP was pretty sure everyone spoke Zulu at the airport.

you guys make a mountain out of a mole hill always. You guys are all over a Nigerian forum insulting Nigerians, swearing that a country of 200 million people only sell drugs in your country. But somehow you want us to fill uninformed by saying they spoke Zulu in an airport in SA.

I have spent the last 1 year reading about SA...I must say that you guys are the least Africans in any position to feel superior. Come on you just got your independence in 1994! Just 1994! The only country in Africa you are older than is south Sudan! Imagine that

Simplyleo:
Very funny pipu.

In one sentence, "muslims don't drink alcohol and should therefore not benefit from alcohol tax"

In another sentence "muslims hide to drink alcohol".

Poppycock like this comes up when you are desperately searching for what doesn't exist.

I'm a Muslim and for sure I don't drink. 95% of muslims I relate with don't drink as well. This I know. You can cook up whatever you like to massage your ego. Your biz.

you people are the problem of the SW

CobraAnambra:
A certain man from the east did too much of a damage to the entire country for destroying regionalism which gave each region a sense of identity. His name, Aguiyi Ironsi.

-cobra

wow...who created the first 12 states? Awolowo free education is dangerous

ThumbzTNA:
Landmass occupied by Igbo whether in SE or SS is already igboland. For example, I as an Igbo man feel more comfortable building a house in Asaba (whether it's in SE or SS) than building one in Otukpo or Calabar



In my humble opinion, what Igbo in SS need is to have a state to themselves, but said state will still remain in the SS. They shouldn't share a state with other tribes. It's true that igbo people from SS are always torn between agenda of the ND and that of Igbo. That's what brings about identity crises. Having a state that is made up of Delta North, Rivers East and Rivers West (Igbo and igboid group in the South South) is the best for everyone. The minority tribes are happy because they finally have their state to themselves. The Igbo are happy because they are finally in a state with one identity and destiny. Everyone wins

states cannot be created for any other zone in the south except SE. This is because only one state can be allowed in the south now. So would you rather that state be created for SS? Nobody in NASS will even support that. So the argument should be...the south has one shot at state creation which is to give the SE one extra state. Now the SE must decide where that state would be carved from.

ThumbzTNA:
Sit down and ask yourself why is it that whenever Igbo are discussing issues that unites them, it peppers you so much. Hope you know that is how witchcraft starts

you for no quote that guy bro...na wetin he want

ThumbzTNA:
Let's do the math since politics is a game of numbers



What we have now is

5 SE states with 3 senators each = 15 igbo senators
+
3 Igbo senators from SS (Delta North, Rivers West and Rivers East)

=

18 senators


What you are proposing
5 SE states x 3 senators each = 15
+
3 Anioma senators (when Anioma is added to the SE) = 18
+
2 Igbo Rivers senators


=

20 senators



What I'm proposing
6 SE states x 3 senators each = 18
+
3 Igbo senators from SS (Delta North, Rivers West and Rivers East, even if these 3 senatorial districts are merged to be become a state in the SS)

=

21 senators

so because of one additional senator, you want us to overlook the landmass addition to SE? The population addition to SE and the general better visibility Anioma will bring....I don't even want to tell you how it helps our unity of purpose.

Also ND have their own agenda and the senators you mentioned will always go with Niger Delta agenda unless they are moved to SE zone

ThumbzTNA:
In my own humble opinion, I'd rather they joined Delta North to Rivers South East and Rivers East to form a 100% igbo state in the South South

in what way do you think that's feasible when the only reason a state is being considered for SE is to make it have 6 states and increase the southern states from 17 to 18 against the norths 19 plus Abuja? Or you don't know the new states will get seats in NASS?

Kebbiprince:
We won't support addition of any state from SS to SE because that will increase the secessionist threat. Even if we allow Anioma it will be in SS and not SE

who are 'We'....which seat do you occupy in NASS? Or you think the mere fact that you are abokì gives you right to talk to people anyhow

Most igbos will only support Anioma state. The reason I believe is because of ongoing Igbo nationalism.

We want to bring as much Igbo people together into one political arrangement.

We are not like the yorubas who have a voice already in Nigeria since after the civil war.

Anioma has Asaba and Delta has Warri...so that alone gives Anioma an edge over Etiti state. Anioma would also be the largest state in South East and would significantly increase our land

OnlyDeCapPlease:
Compared to the rest of Nigeria, and the saying of the 1 eyed man in the land of the blind comes to mind, Lagos is miles ahead and I don't expect anything less. However, compared to the rest of the world, it's a joke. It's not a Lagos problem. It's a Nigerian problem.

If you have been to Abuja then you will know that Lagos is not any miles ahead.

What exactly is Lagos miles ahead in?

And yet they dont stand out in infrastructure in any way.
Lagos is filled with slums
Rivers the same
Akwaibom is entirely forgetable

So where is all that money going? Lagos has the smallest land in nigeria and the largest money yet most streets are untarred....no functional metro

Lagoon0:
You and igbesachick are just saying rubbish. Who are the westerners? Who are Europeans?

How does technology or the world belong to westerners?

The only reason the world might tend to copy west I because of they're the present world power thats all.

Most scientific invention was done by Europeans .infact European needed to colonize the so-called western world you worship like ...

Iran in the time of Persians was also world power. Everyone tends to copy them and the I ways. Romans were once the world power so everyone even till today make reference of Greek philosophers till date.
The way you see USA is the way people she this countries back then.
Egypt was the first world power to use chariot . even the Christian bible made it know that Egypt was powerful and recent research show Egypt I still one of the mysterious world power ever existed.
People of that time tend to copy Egyptians and respect them.

These are norms of the world. Tomorrow USA wont be the world power and things will start changing .

No idiot own technology . Chinese had one of the earliest form of writing material that was later developed by whites. Does that mean white copied Chinese?
There nothing like copying. Its normal technology advancement.

Y'all call the world copy like some folks invented technology. Damn!

lol...this one doesnt even know that The West means Australias, western europe and americas... chai and you are coming to argue with me. Ah don die

plaindealer:
..


Tinubu is a kingmaker, not the king and he's not trying to be the King. and he's not even saying anything about any election, all the Tinubu noise, and hustling by driveby politicians and opportunists means nothing.

PYO and the current VP is going to be the king, but for now, Tinubu is taking all the bullets and diverting attention and assaults away from Osinbajo.

Osinbajo's acceptance and recognition as the next king is already a known fact in the North, in fact, they love Osinbajo in the North than the Northern political gladiators combined.

Tinubu for now is the necessary Troja horse.

Lol. The way some of you talk...one would think you were an insider/stakeholder. He won't know you are an unemployed boy who is at home, holding his dîck with his left hand while alternating between nairaland and xvideos

igbesachick:
Bra was invented in 18th century for the protection of the female workers and the tidiness of the prodction line.

If african or chinese led the first industrial revolution, these ppl would invent bras too.

the point is , why westerners be the first to the threshold of modern world ? it is not about whether chinese or aftican should or should not wear bras after the british invented bras.

of course today our women wear them the same, is it a stigma of inferiority ? shall we wear underwear on our chest instead to prove we are different but same superior as the brits ?

that said, westerners have other culture weirds , they like museums, they drink coffee, we dont need to follow them.

it is you who agree with me. you did say food and music are not counted (as important factors), and you also acknowledge the importance of technologies. so what is our disparity? i even allow the important influence of freedom of culture over the technologies.

lol.. you have just been agreeing with me lately. It's either you don't know how to articulate your points during an argument or you had no points in the first place

The whites have invented cloths...why is the man who this thread is about dressing like a babarian to uphold an archaic culture. Is dressing modern a sign of inferiority just because modern cloths were invented by whites. No!! You agree with me already.

Case closed

igbesachick:
china copies the west ?

if so, why china is depicted as the antipode of the west ? why the propaganda is fraught with "righteous democratic west VS vicious freedomless china" ?

at least, the west itself does not view china as a copycat . china may copy the cheap stuff, as a business starter and a way to earn money in the less developed countries for the lower budget customers. but basically china and west are different.

Again he agrees with me. What does the west copy from China

capitalzero:
Tribalism is mother of all maladies

the only reason that mumu you quoted will vote tinubu is because he is yoruba

Tinubu can be caught robbing the CBN...they will still vote him to spite some other people

igbesachick:
well, if you live long enough, in the following 50 years, china will prove you are wrong. china will prove you right that copying the west leads to growth and development

British invented bicycles but chinese produce 99% today, and possess all the famous brands and technologies.

and tons of other examples.

this your reply shows that you do not understand the argument and I should not have engaged you. You have been agreeing with me that copying the west gives the best results. I won't engage you any further

igbesachick:
wearing suits does not mean "modernization" or "westernization".

it is just like english. we can speak any language as an international one. but we need one, and english is convenient, out of historic reasons, so, we pick english. but not because english is modern and westernized and civilized !

so to the clothes !

japanese do wear kimono, at higher occassions than going to office to work menial jobs. they wear when treating friends , etc.

why don't they wear the kimonos to work? Why suit and tie?

Have you seen white people wearing the cultural dresses of other groups anywhere. Why do other groups seem to wear the White's dresses?

The modern world belongs to the west. Whether you admit it or not is up to you. I'm out of this threat

Lagoon0:
Don't say that again our ancestors wore ashoke in Yoruba land. Asho oke is still regarded as high class dress till date. We wear our native attired to important event even in sch during defense.

Alot of student put on Ankara and lase . if your native dressing expose more of your body add something to spice the design instead of total condemnation

go back to the first page and check if the man was fully clothed. Yorubas may have clothed more and can develop modern dressing ideas from their ancestors. This man's ancestors didn't

Lagoon0:
Civilization is allowed but not meant to be forced on people. You choose what to copy and what not to.

Are you still eating fufu and ofaku and you claim you're civilized ?

Your also an hypocrite

food is good. You eat the food abundant to your area. Shelter and clothing and based on technology. If you don't live in a 21st century shelter or wear a 21st century clothe then you are not civilized. The three of them are basic needs.

Other needs include education and use of modern technology.

The man in this picture is not civilized because he is not using a modern dress based on technology. Our ancestors never had that luxury

igbesachick:
china never will be assimilated into the "modern" world, if that is the West style . chinese always say "learn the foreign devils' skills and use them on the devils" and "learn the skin and furs of the foreign devils, but remain the blood and bones of china". japan has already reached what china aspires. japanese wear kimonos in metros and use wood chopsticks to eat 500 dollar sushi in traditional huts with subtle modern technology embedded everywhere in the room unnoticed.

china and japan only pick up the utility points of west things. as to west culture , both of them repulse and scorn.

today's chinese students in Usa learn medicine and physics. nobody will learn politics and literature.

I see how they repulse and scorn west. This is everyday life in Japan. Where are the huts. Where are the kimonos and agbada? My guy I dey work abeg. I think by now we can agree that you should practice what you preach and truly do away with the western influence in your life

igbesachick:
what ? i reason with him , but that does not mean, i agree with you for your opinions on OTHER topics

you don't need to agree with my opinion but mention one developed country today that is not based on western ideas. Cuisine, Language and religion are out of it.

The west doesn't share same language and neither are they all Christians nor eat the same food. The west is tending towards atheism today....many speak Asian languages and food is now creole

We are talking of dressing (not suit o, modern dresses)
System of education
System of government
System of standardisation
Ending many cultural practices etc

igbesachick:
japan has helped the last emporer of china, Puyi, to his throne again, with a puppet government in northeast china. is that a colony ? like nigeria protectorate and canada colony under direct viceroys from UK and ruled by the laws transplanted from UK and being taxed and exploited by UK ?

france has "rent" west Canton province islands , germany has "rent" Qingdao, russian has "rent" Lvshun port, UK "rent" HK, portugal rent Macau. so, china was the biggest loser colonized by dozens of countries ?

well, that is exactly the communist party wants chinese to believe and write it down in china textbooks, victimizing itself and thus justifying its expansionism today

your arguments are neither here no there. We are talking about western ideas which EVERY SINGLE developed country today has imbibed. Because the modern world belongs to the west.

Issues of who lost and who won during colonization and what china foreign policy today is should be discussed elsewhere. Keep it simple please

igbesachick:
china is the only country in the world, today , that uses a non-alphabatic language.

and see the person I was arguing with. Tell us what script Arabic in Hindi is written in. Chai.

igbesachick:
that was a war between 1938 to 1945 . during the war, japan occupied parts of china. how come the colony ?

read what colony means. Japan established government in China successfully. Even if it lasted for a few months. How long would that occupation have lasted if Japan didn't make the error of invading the US and incurring the wrath of the west? Or you just want to do yeye argument this morning. Did 1930s china with their Buddhism and cultural society stand any chance against westernized Japan?

Serious countries are busy pursuing a policy of westernization but you negroes think it's low self-esteem. What is worse...that you dress and behave like the whites and have a developed society or that you hold on to your cultural heritage and have this society below.

I'm not in the mood to argue so I will tell you this.... unlearning is part of learning. A rich man raised in poverty may choose to withhold the sweet things of life from his kids... doesn't make him intelligent. Our ancestors were naked because they lacked technology for clothing...not because they were proud of it.

If you hate westernization...stay off western countries. Remain in Nigeria and stay off western media. Thanks have a great 'cultural' day

igbesachick:
japan colonized china ? who is the first viceroy ? japan is the non-white country "given" by the whites to "colonize" china ?

so, china is the grandson of the whites. ... no wonder everyone today is so afraid of china's rise. how dare a grandson whom nobody knows anything of challenge the white grandfather?

reality check : japan colonized china's former colony korea, not china. japan earned its international status by its own ability. african guys, dont assume other countries behave like a beggar like you . no one lives by donation. no Power can be "made" by other Powers .

if you african dont rid of this mindset, you can never walk out of the white man nightmare for you.

by the way, all colonies are forever shietholes. see the differences between india and china. no matter how hard india exerts itself, it is doomed to lag behind china with light years. the inferiority which caused a nation/ppl to be colonized will stick like a shiet to it and make it inferior forever. if it was not inferior , how can a country be colonized ?

I was going to respond to your other posts until I saw this. Japan defeated China in 1895 and took over Taiwan and Korea. They later occupied the eastern part of China until the end of civil war and created a government there