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Brilliant post.

I don't see how some people would say they did not see these listed today and say it was a tactical match where we improved.

Admittedly, all the stated existed under Amodu but as I repeatedly said, it is NAIJA MENTALITY and it takes time to deal with it.

Not sure I agree with you it's a NAIJA MENTALITY. Instead I'll say it's a Super Eagles Mentality cos our junior teams. . .Holland 2005, Beijing 2008, and U-17's (Tella's and Obuh's) and even Siasia's Egypt 2009 U-21's didn't/don't play this way. They were very combative, full of running, closed down spaces and marked their opponents. I don't know why it's different with the Senior team.  

Let me add as well how our full backs were constantly being sucked to the centre when they don't need to and then leaving an opposition player to stay wide which the Argentines did not exploit enough.
TT was mainly guilty of this, some how he wants to join a headless 3 SE players chasing Messi and then you see him struggling to get back wide when Arg spread the ball to the wing. Thank god Yobo and Shittu are 6' 2 and 3, we would have been punished.

Very true!

[quote author=mama-gee link=topic=462010.msg6204667#msg6204667 date=1276382751][color=deeppink]^^But you read most of my posts until now.[/color] [/quote]Yes, I do cos you always have something interesting to say (not sensible always) . .but most of your posts are brief and not lengthy like this one. Just saying use black fonts for lengthy posts. That's all.!!

The Argentine team that played us today isn't much different from their Olympics team and they didn't completely outplay, peg and dominate us then like they did today. 3/4 of the time, we were just chasing shadows.

Having said this. . .there are too many fundamental flaws in our game.

- We play at a very slow pace
- We don't close down spaces of opponents
- We unconsciously fall back, defend too deep in our own half and easily concede dictating the game to our opponents as if we're content with      chasing the ball. . . .as in, we just don't fight and battle for the control of the midfield. WE ALWAYS CONCEDE IT TO OUR OPPONENTS.
- Our players don't make runs and position themselves off the ball
- We only mark opposing players when they're with the ball and don't close them down on time etc etc etc

I nor just understand. Shey na just Naija mentality or our players are too old and lack the physical fitness to play an intense fast-paced pressure type of football?

[quote author=tayo_ast link=topic=461938.msg6204496#msg6204496 date=1276380349][color=#00688B]Semid kip quiet!!!!! [/color][/quote]Se ori e ti ya were ni?

Word of advice
Please do not post long threads with your pink colored fonts. They're not pleasant to the eyes and makes reading difficult.

mikeansy:
I am sorry to burst your bubble if you think you are making sense. Amodu is never the best local coach in the country. It was never Amodu or a mediocre Sweedish coach who could not qualify his own country for World Cup. This situation was intentionally designed by the NFF to make money from hiring a cheap Foreign Coach which is why sometimes I just hope we crash out so that the current corrupt fellows in NFF can be flushed out let our ex-Eagles begin to run the NFF.

Siasia Olympic team would have beaten this side put forward by Maradona today and thats the fact. There was literally no pressure on Veron today. Sani Kaita did not cross one ball into the box today so whats the point of him playing 7? Haruna Lukman neither had the freedom to run into the opponents box to search for goals nor was he effective defending all down to coaches formation. Etuhu is never good enough to play DM alone and why our coach could not recognise this is shocking.

Danny Shittu was awful. He is not a first team player, there is a reason folks like Gerrard Pique, Lucio, Ferdinand, Terry are great defenders. Apart from there defensive ability it is also their ability to initiatiate good passes between defence and midfield and this helps teams build up play. Danny Shittu is zero on this ability and simply has no footballing skills and only Largerback knows why he thinks Shittu is better than adeleye or Afolabi.

Honestly the most shocking thing today is that Nigerians think this is a good performance. We were supposed to beat Arentina if we were simply organised and knew what we were doing.
A sisia inspired Eagles would have beaten this team. It is plain and simple.

Argentina has a slow back four, Gutierez is a make-shift right back and we did not attack his wing very well. Veron was old and lazy and in the 1st 3 minutes Haruna got the better of him. That would have been sustained if Nigeria was playing the right tactics or formation but we were playing the wrong formation and Veron found his rythm.

Honestly if I wake up tomorrow to here that Largerback has been sacked before our group match with Greece I will feel better. Let Eguaveon continue from where he stopped. Largerback simply has no clue what he is doing. They said he was experimenting and knew what he was doing but he has simply repeated his madness in a real match.

The man is a waste of space.

I said it when Amodu was hired. He was never hired to succeed. He was hired so that he would fail and Nigerians will start calling for Foreign Coach. That way the NFF will make more money. That exactly they did given the reveletions by glen hoddle. Nigeria truly leaves in an age long gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gbam! Gbam and Gbam!

Me thinks our defenders (the back four) did well. It was the midfield anchored by Haruna and Etuhu that caused so much trouble for our defence. Messi just kept strolling thru' the midfield with his runs due to the inefficiency of Etuhu. PLAYING ETUHU IN DEFENSIVE MIDFIELD AND KAITA IN RIGHT MIDFIELD IS EFFECTIVELY PLAYING SHORT-TWO. Any Coach who doesn't know this is a douche-bag and should be sacked immediately.

chidichris:
commitment among the players was excellent.

You call the lackadaisical and lazy way the players marked and ran about the field without any sense of urgency commitment? Did you by any chance watch the USA vs England game or Uruguay vs France?

chidichris:
we saw our coach show his uncomfortable situation as soon as we went down and he showed up by the picth side instead of hiding behind the bars and peeping like a criminal.

And what was the result of this? We played better and equalized shey? Nonsense!!!

chidichris:
if anyone looses to the argentine star studded side by 1-0, that one will never complain.
despite loosing, i am begining to have feelings for nigerian football again.

Crap! What exactly did we employ Lagerback for? To reduce the margins of our losses or what? It's not losing that's painful but the way we lost (without battling and fighting) We made it too easy for Argentina. . .Scoreline could have easily read 5 nil if not for Enyeama.

chidichris:
for haruna, he was great and will be better in the coming games as he gets used to big stages.

He was OK but definitely not great

chidichris:
i saw a fan who wrote, MIKEL WE MISS U. i missed him with those long passes which we did not see today especially with the introduction of martins who runs to the long balls.

I was the one who posted that comment. . . .I'm not a fan like you but his presence in midfield with Haruna would have given our team more traction going forward and would've eased the pressure on our defense. WE definitely needed someone like Mikel in today's game.

chidichris:
all the same, great game over-all.

Great game for Argentina. .  .Bad game for Nigeria

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=461963.msg6204201#msg6204201 date=1276376797]The fact is. . . . . . .  FAGmodu is a simpleton.
If you meet him in your world of kparakpoism, tell him a certain Sauron said so.[/quote]And Lagerback is a genius right? Even Amodu's worst team wouldn't have been outplayed and completely dominated today.

maedan:
Wow, like you all really expected Nigeria to win? Lagerbeer might have in your opinion, made bad choices, but even with your "dream team", this is Argentina we're talking about. A nation with Messi on its team, a team with a world-class history in football. While our boys have a looooong way to go. Everyone is saying how the end score could easily have been 5-0. We did our best abeg.

Ore, I hope you're not talking to me cos I nor just dey in the mood o. Hope you read that Memo to all the females Nor just vex me pass as Super Eagles don do o. . . just enter Nairaland kitchen, bedroom or Boutique find your level and leave we men to our footie discussion

I don't even want a coach who thinks Etuhu is our best option for DM and  Kaita's is most effective as a 7. Even Ajagun or Azeez from U-17 would have done a better job than Etuhu did today. What rubbish!

Argentina just dey take us do middle man today like se na dem carry us come field and people dey talk se we played well and the team is an improvement on Amodu's. . . Nonsense!!

Make Lagerback just pack him bag begin dey waka after this world cup. We're better off rebuilding with our own since most of these bunch won't dream of going to Brazil 2014. . .Samson Siasia!!!

honeric01:
If it was Amodu that benched Osaze, used Kaita as a 7, some silly Nigerians would start to rain curses on the coach, calling him all sort of names, just becos this largerbeer is white, these set of people think we tried and performed very well, rubbish, the team that played in the Olympics against the Argentine had more vibe, firepower and attacking flair than the SE that played this afternoon.
 
    In the whole game, we only hit 1 shot on target (Martins), no other short tested the goalkeeper, imagine that kind of poo? Argentina would have scored 5 goals this afternoon if not for Enyeama that was hot 2day, we would have conceded more than what was on the scoreboard at the end of the match. May God forgive all of una wey be self hater, anyone who thinks dis largerbeer is beta than Amodu does not know what being "better" means.


After this worldcup, the NFF should not renew Largerbeer's contract because all i see is a coach with an average coaching skills that can be compared with that of our local coaches and some of our local coaches are even better than him. I want to see Keshi, Siasia and maybe Egueavoen handle the new SE for 2014 worldcup.


Amodu should just go outside the country, get a better contract with another club or country after his real contract with the clueless NFF expires at the end of August, he can do it, he can prove his critics wrong by coaching outside the shores and by letting them know that he played his own style of football and got results.

More to come,

TRUE!!

I was willing to give Lagerback the benefit of the doubt but I'm afraid he hasn't justified his N30M salary with what I saw today. There was absolutely no difference between Lagerback's team and Amodu's team @ AFCON 2010. I dare say Amodu would have even gotten us a better result today.

The Argentine team that played us today isn't much different from their Olympics team and they didn't completely outplay and dominate us then like they did today.

Lagerback no be AM jare. Make NFF employ Siasia immediately after the World cup so we can start preparing for 2014. The future looks bright with the likes of Abduljeleel Ajagun, Ramon Azeez, Fortune Chukwudi, Lukman Haruna, Rabiu Ibrahim, Obiora Nwankwo, Ahmed Musa etc.

See how USA is defending, contesting and fighting resolutely for every ball. . . .this is what I expected from our Eagles, not to admire Messi and watch the Argentine players stream passes upon passes together.

Super Eagles were $h!t against Argentina.

As I expected Lagerback got the starting-11, formation and positional play wrong.

The writings were right on the wall with his 23-man team selection when he left out players like Ike Uche, Ajilore, Anichebe (for false reasons) and taking liability players Kanu, Utaka and Ayila who are obviously going to warm the bench and are not good enough to start (and look very unlikely to make even substitute appearances),

His team is unbalanced and skewed towards strikers with very little Midfielders (An amphibious and workaholic midfielder like Ajilore should have been used to replace Mikel. . .a like for like replacement and not Ideye who is a striker. . .Does it look like Ideye is ever going to play in this competition?)

Of what use is playing a piss poor player like Etuhu in the Defensive Midfield and wasting Sanni Kaita on the outside right where he contributes nothing to the team going forward? when Sanni Kaita would have been more effective had he played as a DM?

Why keep an explosive, workaholic and pacy player like Osaze on the bench and start with a lazy and 20 minutes noodles player like Obasi?

Frankly, I think Amodu would have done a better job had he been allowed to stay and lead the team to SA cos he showed a remarkable learning curve in Angola.  First two matches he started with Yobo, Nwaneri and Etuhu and benched them subsequently and replaced them with Apam, Shittu and Kaita when they didn't perform as expected).

Lagerback claims to have watched the tapes of the Eagles so it baffles me how he thinks right-midfield is the best position for Kaita? It's just insane I mean. How did he come to that conclusion?. . .He has by this decision weakened the team further by dulling the attacks that could have come from that wing and creating a large hole in midfield cos Dickson Etuhu is NOT JUST IT. . .despite his Fulham status.

Certain players (Yakubu, Odiah, Taiwo have obviously improved and upped their game) but I don't see any improvement in the team as a whole. It's still the same of the same without any distinguishable pattern. . .Lets just kick the ball around and if we're lucky score. There is no link between the midfield and attack. . .static play, little or no movements off the ball. . .etc etc etc.

Those who think we can beat Korea are obviously in dreamland. Wake up and smell the coffee. . .I see a first round exit starring us in the face.

This was almost the Argentine team that Siasia played in Beijing and they didn't outplay & completely dominate us like they did today. Thank God for Enyeama who saved us and kept the scoreline respectable. It was a big, big mistake sacking Amodu

I'm tired of Lagerback already. . .he should just go after the World cup so we can employ Siasia who understands our boys, knows their strengths and weaknesses and would never play them out of position. Laerback has not justified his N30 million salary with what I saw today.

I rest my case. . .the future of the Super Eagles is Samson Siasia and not Lagerback

12large:
iyeneda you are a fool, amadiaoha should strike you if you think keita played good. the guy should just leave nigeria alone he should continue raming cow useless aboki.

Will you please shut the f.c#ck up and stop disgracing your folks with your imbecilic utterances!!!

Dundee united!!!

Lagerback should remove Etuhu, bring in Osaze and move kaita to DM.

I miss Mikel.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/world_cup_2010/matches/match_04/default.stm
Commentary Argentina v Nigeria line-ups:  

Argentina: Romero, Gutierrez, Demichelis, Samuel, Heinze, Veron, Mascherano, Di Maria, Tevez, Messi, Higuain.
Subs: Pozo, Rodriguez, Burdisso, Bolatti, Garce, Otamendi, Aguero, Palermo, Milito, Maxi, Pastore, Andujar.
     
Nigeria: Enyeama, Odiah, Yobo, Shittu, Taiwo, Kaita, Etuhu, Haruna, Obasi Ogbuke, Yakubu, Obinna.
Subs: Ejide, Kanu, Afolabi, Utaka, Martins, Ideye, Odemwingie, Uche, Yussuf, Echiejile, Adeleye, Aiyenugbu.
   
Referee: Wolfgang Stark (Germany)

14:28 Commentary  

Thanks very much Christopher, you enjoy your evening in the Mother City won’t you? Right, onwards and upwards (geographically speaking, at least) - I’m Jonathan Stevenson, I’m in Johannesburg and about eight miles up the road, the World Cup’s about to get a little bit Messi…

When u wan play Naija
First enter Oyingbo market
Charter plenty basket cos Naija nor get respect
Ask Tunisia, Ask Argentina
When you talk of soccer
eh. .eh. .eh. .eh. .eh
GOOOOOAAAAAAAAL
NIGERIA oko iya won



My country people, nothing dey kpai. . .Nigeria 1 Argentina 0

Believe!!

Vacuum cleaner don enter for S.Korea

Me dey practice my alanta dance steps in preparation for Nigeria's 2 Goals

Super Eagles make us proud!

See as those chinko's dey r@p# Greece?.   I nor fit shout. End of 1st 45. Make we see as 2nd half go be

And this is worth a thread?

Rubbish!

Dr Kitaun:
This is a score draw . . .

honeric01:
I pray both teams play out a goalless draw, that's what i wish for.

AMEN & AMEN!!!

nellaluv:
Actually she's been considered but on a condition which is a secret i'm about to unravel trust mama-gee and her loud mouth , wait maybe it's no secret ha! have you noticed the all-new mama-gee she's been rebanded maybe just a bit, but nt changed much tho, lol . Chect this out>>
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-458518.0.html

Oh. . .had no idea you were referring me to that comment made by Seun.

Dr Kitaun:
I BELIEVE IN EVERYTHING NIGERIAN, LETS GO THERE !!!

True. . .Lets go there!! Wave your Green-White-Green!!

Super Eagles be born Champion. . .Defeatless! Defeatless!

Champion - General Pype

Super Eagles Carry go jare. Messi nor fit do nothing. . .He's just a puss!3

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