bezimo:


My Bible tells me to "answer a fool according to his folly lest he thinks he is wise". Its in Proverbs find where it is.Thats your next assignment since you have become monitoring spirit since I ignored all your senseless response.

Besides I shouldnt be replying an irrational folk like you.Nevertheless, Be aware that I wont dignify you with a further response.

You have chosen to interpret scripture the way you want to fit your less-than-noble cause. Clearly, this bill is meant for people like you. Thankfully, I haven't used any abusive words or cast aspersions on your person throughout our interaction, so you can't accuse me of doing such. And where others have, what does Jesus teach about turning the other cheek, ehn , dear model Christian.

I shall not lower myself to the level of throwing insults, especially here on a faceless forum where we are trying to have a sensible discussion. Feel free to continue, however. And when you are done, teach your children to use such language as you have used here because, clearly, it is the right thing to do.

bezimo:
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If you want to address what I raised without any modicum of civility, I would show you that I can be that way If I choose because no one has a monopoly on the use of abusive statements.

You are a super stupid idiot who cant agree that you and your islamic religious misguided fools are a major part of the reason we have wantom destruction of lives and property not just in Nigeria but in other parts of the world, we saw what happened in brussels, Paris recently.You and your idiotic midget called elrufai who has lost touch of priority and pressing matters that affect the socio-economic status of Kaduna state but instead choose to dabble into unnecessary religious controversy in a supposed volatile state which has enjoyed relatively stability in the past few years to stir up religious tension. You so so daft to appreciate the sensitivity of the matter.

You are a moronic idiot who cant understand that the motives of my submissions has been to expose the midget called elrufai for his islamic bigotry and hatred for the Christian faith by bringing a law that is against the constitution mandating freedom of worship.

He has been warned to leave the christian faith alone, his life is on the line should he choose to go ahead.

He can call the bluff and go ahead, we would see.

What. A. Christian. We should show this to your children if or when you have any. I'm sure you would approve of usage of certain choice words from your above statement.

What. A. Christian.

bezimo:


From a global perspective. Islam and its hateful preachings and religious extremism and offcourse the result ISIS, Boko Haram, Shites, and the likes.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/11/09/islam-is-a-religion-of-violence-ayaan-hirsi-ali-debate-islamic-state/


https://africanreporter./2014/05/21/the-emergence-of-boko-haram-from-religious-intolerance-to-religious-terrorism-in-nigeria-2/


http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/07/france-deports-40-imams-for-hate-speech

http://pamelageller.com/2015/08/the-washingtonpost-laments-arrest-of-notorious-islamic-hate-preacher-anjem-choudary-attacks-sean-hannity-fox-news-and-pamela-geller.html/


http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3425/islam-extremism


http://brighterbrains.org/articles/entry/boko-haram-and-the-threat-of-islamic-extremism-in-africa

There are so many articles detailing how flawed your argument is.I dont have your time, reacting to you with your flawed and irrational argument is condescending and unnecessary.

I remain resolute.Its Islam that needs to be regulated.

Besides you are not a christian, you are a fake maybe a muslim or traditionalist so go deceive yourself but certainly not me.

I'm amused. You have not made any valid points since you started posting on this thread. You really should try harder. So if I'm to take it as truth that Islam promotes extremism from the links you provided, how come you couldn't take it as truth that there a lot of charlatans and fraudsters masking as religious leaders and you predominantly find them in Christian religion.

And apparently, it's not just a Nigerian thing too.

Want me to provide more links? Or are you tired already?

Oh and because I choose to be a rational Christian that thinks with his God-given brain, you've decided I'm not a Christian. Clearly, you must be God, since you now determine who is a Christian and who isn't.

Maaaan, Nigerians need to stop feeling and start thinking.

bezimo:


El rufia displaying his religious bigotry

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/01/can-blasts-el-rufai-over-alleged-comment-on-jesus-christ/


http://pointblanknews.com/pbn/press-releases/el-rufai-defiles-jesus-christ-on-twitter/


http://www.sharpedgenews.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=1227:el-rufai-under-fire-for-blasphemous-tweet&Itemid=692

You amuse me. All you could come up with was one tweet? Which was not even meant literally but Nigerians can like to over carry everything on their head. If you understand English language and passed your comprehension passages in primary and secondary school, you would know he was making a figurative statement. But because you want to close your mind and have something to rant about, it's suddenly bigoted. I can bet you have made statements like this before, not necessarily of religious figures but the point still remains that it's a figurative statement that's meant to drive home a point.

I'm disappointed. Was that all you could get? All three links you posted where on the same issue. It's like posting links to three different sites reporting that Chris Brown hit Rihanna and equating it to Chris Brown hitting Rihanna three different times. My brother, if you want to do this with me, you really must do better.

bezimo:


First and foremost, this is El rufai's Proposal to regulate religion that is been debated for its rationality and relevance its not a matter of bringing religion into it or not. Its looking at the proposal and making informed statements on its true aim. El rufai antecedents shows that he is a bigot, I need not delve in to bring facts because most folks know this. Nevertheless, if my submission offends you, that my opinion based in facts.

Good night.

It's funny how you say your opinion is based on facts but, in the same sentence, refuse to delve into these "facts" that back it up. Earlier on you asked me to prove that some Christian religious leaders have used their exalted positions for nefarious activities. I obliged with links to several instances, and I'm willing to add more if those were not enough. Now you're stating that El Rufai is a religious bigot but, before anyone can ask you to prove it, you're running away from providing proof for such statements. That doesn't make your point in any way. If anything, it seriously weakens it by making you appear as someone who makes wild allegations but can't back them up.

bezimo:


Whatever alleged atrocities these so called pastors commited do not represent the behaviour of majority of Pastors in the christian faith, besides these are mere allegations which has not been proven to be true. If the Pastors truly committed a crime, has a competent court deemed them guilty, I doubt that. Besides I didnt see how I could have been scammed by what you posted.

Besides a Pastor, just like other folks, are not immune from commiting a crime, because they are humans, that's why we have criminal laws to address such issue in a competent court of law.

Oh, so apparently, all the Muslim religious leaders preach discord and strife and ask their followers to kill non-adherents, right? Because that is what you are clearly implying. You have never been in a mosque or listened to an imam preach but you "already know" he's preaching hatred, all from the comfort of your bedroom. Tell me how that mindset is not bigoted.

BTW, aren't there Muslims in the South West and the rest of the North were there isn't religious violence? How come they haven't been stirring up trouble if, by the implications of your statements, it's what Muslim leaders teach? Stop acting persecuted for the sake of pity. It's not christianly. And yes, I'm a Christian too.

sweetgala:


Yh obviously did not read the OP from El Rufai because if you did you wouldn't claim how would the government vet who is right or wrong.

The answer is simple the government wouldn't , it has setup two parallel bodies obviously comprised of registered CAN members and qualified priests and Imams recognised by the paramount bodies in the nation who have a duty to issue and withdraw a licence to any preacher as is required, based on principles as defined by faith.

Nigeria is a secular state however the FG only recognises two religions in official capacity and that is Christianity and Islam. We don't need to complicate things, the law is a good thing and should be supported.

It puts an end to the nuisance in Nigeria.

My brother, epp me explain it to them biko

omonnakoda:
I am not in the business of opinions. I don't know what Christianity or all of it is about. What I do know is what the Nigerian constitutions says.No religion shall be adopted. That means that ALL religions and atheism should be treated EQUALLY
The constitution does not permit government to get involved in the syllabus of any religion
Government cannot derecognize any religions. This bill appears to empower government to do so. It assumes that there will be no new religions
government has no mandate to pronounce on what Chritianity is or is not and the constitution allow anyone to modify existing religions or start new ones

Going around in circles, aren't you, dear man. For one, the bill isn't singling out any particular religion. It applies to all religions so, based on that, they are still being treated equally.

Second, the bill isn't derecognizing any religion. If you think it is, I would like you to point out the relevant sections where religions are outlawed.

Third, like someone above posted, it's not the government that will be doing the regulation. The governor clearly stated that, in the cases of the two more popular religions in Nigeria, their umbrella bodies will be the ones doing the work. Should adherents of other religions be affected, they can setup their own government recognized umbrella bodies that will also regulate for them. It's like the government granting the Nigerian Society Of Engineers and similar bodies the right to license who does and doesn't practice engineering. The government knows it's not in the business of engineering, so instead, it hands that responsibility to those that are and have formed recognized bodies and organizations to act as representatives of their specific fields. Is this really too difficult to grab?

highpappy:


My God!!!! Read the f**kn interview and stop responding to what you have no knowledge about. Godammit!!

CAN will provide certifications for the qualified preacher or pastor. The same goes for the muslims

Lol, calm down. I understand how you feel but let's not start getting all heated and all. It's Nairaland, so it's not worth it.

bezimo:


Hoodwink who? mislead who? in what way and promote discord how, give examples and not make empty, vague and deliberately misleading statements you cant substantiate.

I havent been scammed, hoodwinked or mislead about the truth which is obvious from the Bible guiding the christian faith. I believe in Unity. So what are you trying to say?

http://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2016/01/18/redeemed-pastor-sent-to-prison-over-n100m-lekki-land-fraud/

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/more-news/194024-efcc-arrests-pastor-for-n200m-fraud.html

http://omojuwa.com/2015/06/see-scam-of-fake-miracle-by-a-popular-nigerian-pastor-caught-on-camera-video/

https://www.naij.com/609202-meet-nigerian-pastor-possessed-devil-defrauded-parishioners-100-million.html


Need more?

omonnakoda:
ALL DOCTORS HAVE SIMILAR TRAINING AND ORIENTATION so there is a basis for regulation. There is no such thing in religion. It may be DESIRABLE for SOME. But that is such a fundamental issue in a country like Nigeria it cannot be done on a state by state basis. We have a constitution and I do not see any such legislation withstanding constitutionality tests in the court. The medical analogy is absurd. One is to do with science while the other is to do with fantasy . It is like trying to regulate how to cook Egusi soup. The only regulation should be about hygiene not the recipe
Some may argue that an ENTIRE RELIGION that they disagree with preaches hate speech in everything. eg Christians and Muslims talk about Unbelievers and Idol worshippers will they be banned from doing so?

There are recent legislations for such purpose in the UK they do not attempt to "license" any one.
You have failed to show how medical regulation can be equated with religious regulation. You have failed to address the most important question of atheism. Who will regulate atheists and do atheists have a right to "Preach"
There is ho history of hate speech associated with Christianity in Nigeria as there is with Islam so why single out Chritianit out of the several non Islamic religions for "regulation"
It is not clear what qualifications regulators would have

Isn't all Christianity based on Jesus Christmas and his teachings? As with Islam and the teachings of prophet Muhammad? Anything outside these cannot, quite frankly, be termed Christian or Islamic. Same as any soup that doesn't contain melon seed be considered egusi. So there's a common root on which all potential offshoots of either religion can be judged.

As regards atheists and other religious adherents, how many of them do you know go on the streets with loudspeakers and drums in this country to push their messages? When they decide to start, then they'll also be required to setup their own regulatory or umbrella bodies.

As for the UK, come on man. You know you can't compare both societies. You know what's coming to you if you start making noise in the UK and constituting a breach of public peace,regardless of what your message is. They already have pre-existing and well enforced laws on public disturbance and misconduct.

bezimo:


Given your stated facts, which is subjective because the moslems also disturb the peace of the neighbourhood with their daily early morning call to prayers through their mosque speakers. Yet the bill doesn't put a restriction on that yet, its restricting the practice of religion till 8pm, when christians most likely have evening services or start their vigil which is not every day.Christianity has impacted the lifes of its adherents positively with many instances community outreaches embarked by some churches, the changed lifes from bad to good by its faithful is there.
In Islam, terrorism and hate messages are taught "Kill the infidels at all cost" bombing, shooting, abduction of school girls, terrorising the populace or forcing them to convert or die.

If religion must be regulated.Its Islam that should be regulated because some of it adherents use it as a tool to cause mayhem and destruction.The evidence is there for every rational indiindividual to see.

Secondly, the bill also makes it a crime to play christian music or preaching in the comfort and privacy of my car, which in many cases isnt really disturbing anyone.

You have no point, you are just one of the misguided fellows out there, who cant discern the times and appreciate the sensitivity of the matter and encourage the need for caution and appropriate and relevant stakeholder engagement before pursuing and engaging in such needless religious controversy because the elrufai is a Islamic political rascal who thinks he is a small lord.

He has been warned, to leave christianity alone or face the consequences.

He is a Muslim and not qualified to regulate christianity practice. He is not God.He can do that of Islam.

And some Christian adherents have used it hoodwink, scam, mislead people and promote discord and the evidence is there for any rational person to see, so what's your point?

omonnakoda:
That analogy is not valid because it presupposes that ANY religion is based on a comparable footing of rationality to medicine or that somehow Christianity and Islam have some proven VALIDITY.It is not the role of the state to arbitrate such philosophical uncertainty or to pretend that the questions are now "settled" . In others words it amounts to saying there will be no more Jesuses or no more Mohammeds and so on. What about atheists? Will they be allowed to preach? How do we determine which atheist "knows what he is doing"?.

In taking this step the state that is supposed to be "secular" is taking a stand and is no longer "NEUTRAL" We have no evidence that Jesus or Mohammed "knew what they were doing" and if I want to CREATE a NEW religion I should be allowed to. If I want to modify already existing religions again I should be allowed to. If the stated objective is to curtail hate speech then there is legislation in many places that can be looked at e.g. the UK that does not seek to get the state in any way involved in the "SYLLABUS" of any region

What bout traditional religions who will regulate them. The truth is that the objective of this bill is to empower the the Sultan and Emirs and establish Wahabbi doctrine as the CORRECT ISLAM in Nigeria

It is sad that most analysis is just superficial and fails to understand the constitutional implications

The analogy is actually very apt. While the state cannot determine what is the correct or approved format for any religion, that is not the aim of the bill. The aim of the bill is to, one hand, curtail hate speech and dissemination of messages that are counteractive to civilized society, while on another hand prevent people from trampling on other people's rights in the process of practicing their religion. In keeping with the medical analogy, what do you think pharmaceutical and medical regulatory bodies are for, just deciding who gets to and doesn't get to practice medicine? In addition to that, if, say, someone comes up with a new drug, they take a look at it and determine if it is beneficial even in moremore ways than advertised by the inventor/discoverer while also ensuring that it doesn't in any way cause any side effects in the process. It's like someone coming up with a drug that cures AIDS but also causes cancer. That can't be approved, inspite of the fact that there is at least one benefit. If someone comes up and says he's the new Jesus or Mohammed , all well and good, but will his message cause trouble to larger society? That's the need for a body to regulate, but nothing is good enough for Nigerians. If the Government, which should be secular and would only concern itself with if a message or ideology constitutes a breach of public peace or a threat to security, decides to regulate, you guys would ask "should Government be involved in religion?". As Government has instead put the regulation in the hands of the recognized umbrella bodies for the religions, you guys are still complaining that if the member sects and denominations that are part of the bodies aren't comfortable with any new sect or denomination, they would deny them licenses. Pick one already.

As for the traditionalists and other religions, well, for one, they probably count as the least defaulters of this potential law. Which is why the governor didn't mention them directly. And even they aren't complaining either. Should they ultimately be affected, then appropriate provisions would be made for them. After all the bill did not specify any religions so if it's for other religions to setup their own state recognized umbrella bodies, it's their own prerogative.

Abeg, we should stop suspending all sense of reasoning at the mention of religion in this country. It's one of the reasons we are where we are today.

Acidosis:


What is a mushroom Church?

And how do you differentiate the mushroom Church from the Qualified Church?

I'm not the most religious Christian and I have my personal beliefs that don't conform with what a lot of people preach. However, God is a God of order. And that's why even in the Bible, prophets learnt under prophets, the apostles were sent out by Jesus, even Apostle Paul underwent a learning process. But today, anybody can just wake up one morning, come up with a ridiculous name and open a church. And the funny thing is that most of these churches are at odds with each other on issues of ideology doctrine, each claiming to be "God's true Church". How many true churches does God have and how is it that they don't agree with each other on quite a number of things, from the basic to the peripheral? This is why I call them mushroom churches. They have no true roots.

omonnakoda:
What is the Christian rite of the dead? How was Jesus buried. What we have is a cultural contamination being dressed up as religion whether in Islam or Christianity.In order to know what is culture and what is religion you must study the books deeply .
I repeat Islam is very similar to Judaism from which Christianity derives. We must not forget the bible teaches in the New Testament that women should cover their heads but now that is seen as an Islamic thing. by the same token we have such things as Chhristmas being passed off as "Christian"

They both teach people to be ready to die at any time and to always be prepared but we have added ou own culture to many things .I have never seen where in the bible it talks of spirit husbands and many of the things Nigerian churches teach

The product of people deciding they have "the revelation" and "the anointing".

Acidosis:
It is so sad that some pathetic Christians don't even understand a thing about their religion.

So any Church whose structure is not as Big or Beautiful as Winners Chapel or one Big Catholic Church is a mushroom church?

But some of us just love the mushroom Churches, and we hate the idea of sitting amidst 1 million people in a camp to pray to a God who promised to stay and listen to the request of a group of 2 people.

Is it not better for Hell Rufai to either resign or die, if he feels threatened by my presence in a mushroom church?

Thank God I'm not in Kaduna, I would have deliberately converted my house to a mushroom fellowship so people like Hell Rufai can get busy

I haff vex, I would henceforth promote the spread of mushroom churches and other worship centres in Nigeria, whoever wants to die should die. And whoever feels the presence of Churches is the reason for underdevelopment should approach the World Bank for a loan to build factories and industries

Some of us are okay with the mushroom churches

It's funny how you conveniently sidestepped my analogy on someone deciding to start a medical practice "because he feels he has the knowledge". I'm sure if you had a life threatening disease, you wouldn't go to one of those backyard hospitals for treatment. The essence of regulation is to ensure the people know what they're doing and don't abuse the position they'll find themselves in.

Acidosis:


That's encroachment please. Whoever wants to hold a crusade is expected to take a prior notice from an agent (owner of a hall, open field, stadium, or camp).

What he or she preaches is not Hell Rufai's business, as long as, it does not contradicts the Laws of Nigeria.

Oh, so now you can throw in an encroachment clause. I thought you said there should be no regulation as regards how, where and when you carry out religious activities. I presume you're a Christian. Imagine a mosque next door places a loudspeaker facing your window and blast their services into your room on Fridays and any other times they hold services. Would you be disposed to let them be in the name of "freedom of worship" or would you start looking for the first person to complain to that your rights are being infringed upon.

Freedom of worship entitles you to your personal worship, not co-opting unwilling people into that worship.

Acidosis:


We are very hypocritical in this part of the world.

People don't complain when Olamide's naughty jams are played in parties, they don't complain when politicians gather crowd with speakers, they don't complain when DvD sellers erect heavy speakers at their door steps.

We complain of "disturbances", but I've never seen Christians forcing their beliefs on others. Christianity is not a do or die affair. Unlike other traditional practices where people are forced to stay indoors for days, Christians don't prevent others from walking.

As stubborn as Jehovah Witness folks are, they do not force their beliefs on others. They only engage you when you give them attention.

Virtually all the towns I have lived in practise and enforce these acts, even Lagos (go to Ijanikin, you'd be told to sit in your house for days because a god needs to be worshipped).
Christians don't do such, we are not blood sucking baales, or Shekau.

Anyway, Hell Rufai can enforce his practice on his puppets in Kaduna. I'm so glad we all hail from one village/town or another.

I'm yet to meet that man that would boldly tell me or prevent my freedom, mode of worship or right to walk around the streets in my part of Kogi (where I come from). It's either the person his dead, or yet to be born.

For one, I hate all kinds of public disturbance, including those people that blare loud music in the name of selling CDs. However, they are not the subject of this particular discussion and should be left out. If you want to discuss that, feel free to start a different thread. If you want a law to be passed on that, you have a local representative. You can raise it with him/her.

Also, I'm not in support of anybody's movement being restricted in the name of religious worship either. However, most of the religions and traditions that practice this inform people ahead of time so they can work their schedules around them. Unfortunately, in the cases of churches and mosques the neighborhood isn't informed. The religious leader just puts speakers outside at his/her own discretion without giving a hoot how it affects others. We live in a secular state, not a religious state. It's in the spirit of this secularism that neighborhoods are informed ahead of time before any event that prevents movement is held. But in the case of religious bodies, you just wake up one morning and they're there. That is wrong.

Acidosis:


Who is certifying who? Adeboye? Chris? T.B Joshua?

What if I don't believe in the above? Don't I have the right to lead my family and every other person who believes in my preachings?

How do we know the "certifier" himself is not a candidate of hell fire?
What if I don't believe in hell?

How would Hell Rufai know what is right or wrong about Christianity? Is he Jesus Christ?

If the Mandate to certify people is given to Hell Rufai, how would Hell Rufai know the true believers from the fake?

Would Hell Rufai, not mistake crowd for correctness.

Personally, I can't vouch for anyone about his candidacy in Heaven, not even Pastor Adeboye, or Bishop Oyedepo.

God does not work with crowd, he needs only 2 people who are right before him to do wonders.

Christianity is Spiritual, it is not a property of Redeem, Catholic, Eckanker, or Living Faith!

Everyone is leveraging on what they deem as right or wrong!

What if I don't believe in female trousers or earrings? Okay, you can suggest deeper life, what if I don't like Kumuyi, and I just want to study the Bible according to my understanding and I still wish to spread the gospel?

That bill is just dead on arrival. You cannot certify anyone on how, where and when to preach or pray.

We already have two large bodies (CAN and PFN) and any willing pastor should get his church registered in accordance with the bye laws of these bodies.

So you can decide one day to go and hold a crusade in a mosque on a Friday in the name of not certifying people on how, where and when to preach. Well?

Acidosis:


So what is the business of a Governor over my mode of worship? We already have CAN and PFN, and whoever wants to lead a church is expected to belong to either of these bodies.

You really believe CAN has the remotest idea that most of these bathroom and warehouse churches exist? You think most of them are members? Don't act like you don't Iive in Nigeria where anybody can just wake up one morning, rent what should be a broom cupboard and start holding church services because he claims to have "received a revelation from God". Most of these mushroom churches aren't registered under or part of any umbrella bodies, whether Orthodox or Pentecostal. And the lack of regulation is why we have so many churches whose roots we have no idea of.

As for how it concerns the Governor, well you might be overlooking the function of governments to justify your position. One of the main function of the law is to ensure that everybody's interests are protected and nobody's fundamental rights are trampled upon. You want to be a Christian, great. You want to preach to people, no problem. But it's not a by force something. The minute you put your loudspeakers outside and start disturbing public peace, you're trampling on other people's rights. I don't have to listen to your preaching or your Vigil so don't force me to partake in your church services by turning up your loudspeakers till I can't hear my TV in my own parlor.

As I said, don't use your own to disturb others.

dumo1:

Honestly I always hated Ford with a passion but the day I took a ride in a Ford Edge mehn I trowey salute whenever a Ford edge passes me by especially the SEL Edition.

Oshey. Person wey sabi better tin!

Tranquility

You know, there are pictures you take and each time you look at them, feel the same emotional rush you got when you saw the setting that inspired you to take a snapshot in the first place. Each time I look at this picture, I feel the calm, the tranquility, the easy silence that made this such a perfect setting to be captured on camera. It was a moment I had to take with me. It’s the exact reason why I decided to leave it untouched, unedited, unfiltered. I feel like any modification would take away from the natural beauty that I captured.

Could everywhere just be this peaceful?

https://greysweaterdude./2016/04/03/tranquility/

eddybet:
Same rufai who insulted Jesus by saying Jesus had sex with mary magdalene.... Infact i see no a present kaduna state dieing soon this year.... You dear not insult Muhammad in the present of a real Muslim... You will be beheaded and suyadised... I rest my case

Really? He said this when? You know you don't have to lie to protect Christianity. And things you hear in a beer parlor aren't necessarily factual.

Acidosis:
So an idiot wants to certify a pastor before he prays and preach?

Who is certifying who? This man is just an ediot. You can't and won't certify anyone

I will pray when I want, open a fellowship when I so deem fit, and if you try any nonsense, you will surely die.

An ediot cannot certify a pastor on how, when and where to pray or preach.

Everyone must not worship in Redeem or Catholic. If I want to fellowship with my family and neighborhood, no one can stop me. Leave the judgement to God to determine His own!

How would anyone assume a Catholic priest or a Redeem pastor, because he's certified by Adeboye MAKES the church TRUE or HOLY?

Hell Rufai, are you God? Christianity is spiritual, it is never a certification!

I'm a Christian by choice, no bible school made me one. Bible schools don't give holy spirit, leave people to practice what they believe in, Christianity, Sango, Islam, etc, (as long as they maintain law and ORDER).

Really? Like, seriously? Why not say "if I want to treat people for diseases, no one can stop me. I don't need to undergo training or be certified. I can just wake up one morning, call myself a doctor, start a medical practice and start dishing out treatments because I feel I can". Why not say that too?

Being a Christian is by choice, very well. Just like getting married or reading books. However, if you want to put yourself in a position of authority over others, then yes, you need to be certified. Even in the Bible there were priests and high priests out of multitudes of priests. Why didn't someone just wake up one morning, declare himself high priest and start executing priestly functions without being appointed. Even prophets were anointed and underwent trainings under other prophets so what's all this you're saying?

Don't use your own to disturb someone else.

searay:
One of the tool (perharps the only tool) employed by Christianity is Evangelism, which takes place in the outside. You can call it outside preaching either to individual or groups. This bill is aiming at killing evangelism which is Christianity.

I may not be the biggest fan of Jehovah's Witnesses but if you want to evangelize, you might want to borrow a leaf from their book. You don't go around beating drums and blaring trumpets and causing a ruckus with loud speakers. Those things piss people off more than it converts them. What happened to talking to people one-to-one, reasoning with them, interacting directly with them. That's way more effective than making a helluva noise in the name of evangelism.

tpacalipse:
I hate the edge. it's for the sissies.

Ford Edge for sissies?!!!?!??!

You take that back!!!! You take that back right now!!!!!!

Keke Grand Prix

Taking this picture was rather amusing for me. I had just turned a street corner only to see these staples of the streets of Lagos, racing along like there was some sort of competition on. There was literally no other vehicle on the road asides these orange and black three-wheelers. I imagine there’s someone waving a checkered flag at a finish line somewhere much further down the road as the riders turn their speed up a notch to clock in first.

I wonder who won.

https://greysweaterdude./2016/04/02/keke-grand-prix/

Indomitables Stickers:

Make no mistake about it, I have nothing against the Indomitables. In case you don’t know who the Indomitables are, they’re a bunch of Nigerian super hero kids created for the sole purpose of making Indomie more attractive to children. While the idea of Nigerian superhero kids is pretty rad (though if that happened in real life, their parents would probably have taken them all for joint deliverance at MFM), there are no instructions on the Indomie packs or the stickers that they shouldn't be PASTED ON PEOPLE’S CARS! And the fridge! And the floor, right in the middle of the parlour. And those things are difficult to get off once they've got a little water on them. A friend came to visit me one day and, on seeing him off, we spotted what appeared to be a scratch on the door of his car. On closer inspection, it turned out not to be a scratch, but a sticker of “Big Boy” (one of the super hero kids. Trust me, whoever named them won’t win any awards for having an amazing imagination). And the culprit kid was still there, with another sticker, ready to “beautify” the car further. My friend just stared at him in exasperation.

Please, Indomie, next time, put something else kids won’t use to deface walls and doors. Throw in a small toy or recharge card (I don’t know – I'm not the best at coming up with gifts for kids). Just no more stickers.

“Honour Roll” Stickers:

Back when I was in primary school, winning a prize for being the best at a subject or sport or activity meant getting a copy of “Without A Silver Spoon” or “Ade, Our Naughty Little brother” and a handshake with the school headmistress. Without pictures. These days, schools also hand out stickers to parents whose kids have won prizes proclaiming how awesome their kids are for being “on Honour Roll” and indirectly proclaiming how stupid other parents’ kids are. I mean, imagine you come to pick up your child from school and you find yourself parked beside one of your kid’s classmates’ dad’s car with an honour roll sticker on it and your windscreen conspicuously sticker free. It would be incredibly difficult not to think the honour roll parents are looking at your kid and thinking – “what a poor, incredibly dense child. He should drop out of school already and go learn a trade”. I'm sorry, I think those stickers are unnecessary. It could make some parents feel bad about their kids and make them hire annoying lesson teachers that seem to only show up because they know they’ll get free lunch at your house. Quit giving out those stickers. It’s the right thing to do.


https://greysweaterdude./2016/03/30/four-types-of-stickers-i-hate/

You know, there are some stickers you see and you can’t help thinking – whoever made that sticker should be shot. Well, I occasionally feel that way sometimes as well when I see certain stickers on certain surfaces. Okay fine, maybe not shot, but given a sound beating by a tout high on Oshogbo weed (I mean the touts that can actually fight, not those ones that spend three hours making noise before getting knocked out by one well-placed punch). Here are stickers I don’t like seeing:

Religious Stickers:

Hold your horses and read through before picking your torches and pitchforks to come attempt burning down my father’s house. I don’t mean ALL religious stickers. There are some stickers though that you see (especially on people’s cars) that make you roll your eyes and think – “really?”. For instance, have you seen one of those stickers that says “This Car Is A Holy Ghost Zone. Keep Off”. I can just imagine the driver of the car doing 240 on Lagos-Ibadan express way and some evil spirit approaches to cause an accident. Then on getting close to the car, it spots the sticker, puts on its reading glasses and goes “wow, this car under legit protection even though the occupants are hardcore kidnappers. I best wait for the next one”. Statements of faith are things of the mind. Pasting it all over your car is going a bit overboard. But well, your car, your rules. It’s just tacky though. I don’t mind those ones that tell what church you attend though. They always seem to be better designed than all those “My Enemies Will Die This Year” stickers. Like the COZA sticker. I don’t attend that church but their yellow and black sticker is really cool.


Club Stickers:

Have you ever been to a club and, after a night of hard partying, grooving and gyrating, you emerge from the club to find a sticker proclaiming you’re a patron of Club 697 and you party hard every Friday with sexy, sexy ladies? No? Well, pray you don’t have to find one of those on your car, especially if you go clubbing on Saturday night, fail to notice the sticker and drive the car to church on Sunday morning. Then have the judgemental eyes of other parishioners UnCloth you while they shake their heads slowly at this hypocritical sinner. I mean, sure, it’s fun to club, but I don’t exactly want the whole world knowing I was dancing shoki by 2 am last Friday. Feel free to give me the sticker so it’s my choice if I want it on my car or not. Instead of forcing me to advertise your club.

Or at least, I should get a bottle of sweet red on the house if you’re putting your sticker on my rear windscreen. Just saying.

https://greysweaterdude./2016/03/30/four-types-of-stickers-i-hate/

Branching Out

Whenever I see this tree, I just feel like stopping and throwing my arms wide like it seems to be doing. It’s isolated and yet commands a presence, even without a mass of leaves on it’s numerous branches. It seems like one can see each individual branch rising, spreading, stretching….

Branching out further…..

https://greysweaterdude./2016/04/01/branching-out/

There it is! My baby! Well, actually, it's someone else's car but still - my baby! If you're thinking I'm talking about the Camry you should be punched. If you think I'm talking about the Peace Mass Transit Toyota Hiace bus, you should be shot then buried in a shallow grave. It's the Ford Edge baby, in all it's glory. Followers of this thread get ready. You'll be seeing a lot more of it

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nurey:


I guess you are fan of bleach. your moniker is same as one of the captains zanpaktu.

I am actually, hehe