₦airaland Forum

JaceBlaze:
And the fact of the matter is?...🤔🤔

It didn't hit the first time so even If I were to say it again it still wouldn't register, so waste of my breath.

IronGalaxy:
They still said "Nigeria must go" it happened.. why is this not "xenophobia"?

Because it isn't Xenophobia between the two countries anymore with an emphasis on the "past".

IronGalaxy:
Never said it justifies anything.. im just pointing out the hypocrisy my friend.. you are a hypocrite pro-max

If we are all xenophobic.. where do you get the moral ground to call me "xenophobic ? Mind you are not just xenophobic, you're also tribalistic
If i commit a murder in the 80s, im no less a murderer now.. so how do I call out other murderers?

I am glad you are at least embracing your xenophobic tendencies.

As far as your "murderer" analogy. Look at it this way. If your father murdered his wife in 1980, was punished for it and then reconciled with the family of his wife. Would you want him to remain silent as he witnesses you beating your wife bloody with a club on the head about to become a murderer?

IronGalaxy:
even Ghanaians, they were saying "Nigerians must go" just last month,

If you care to take a visit to Ghana you will understand that a bunch of those rascals make up like .00000000002% of the population and are a negligble nuisance to both Ghanians and Nigerians.

IronGalaxy:
And you wonder why I call you people hypocrites? All of you, even Ghanaians, they were saying "Nigerians must go" just last month, yet when South Africans say the same, we are flooded with statements like " we helped south africans under Apartheid blah blah, South Africans are xenophobic blah blah...

You really thought you were cooking there.

Even if those actions were xenophobic with emphasis on 'were", how does that justify your xenophobia?

You are angry that those who committed such acts in the past are not justified to call out yours even though you are doing the same thing.

Cry babies you are?

IronGalaxy:
Take what?

The vibes.

IronGalaxy:
No no no.. was "Ghana must go" xenophobic or not?

In my humble opinion. It was.

IronGalaxy:
You re really saying nothing here.. just vibes

Take it as what ever you want to. It is out there.

IronGalaxy:
No no no.. let's not do this.. lets not hide behind a thumb..
Was your "Ghana must go" not xenophobic? Whether it happened in the 80s its irrelevant

I just answered you but you were not listening, even if it were, are you condoning xenophobia now vs xenophobia in the 80's?

IronGalaxy:
The question is do they provide context in ther reporting of the so-called "xenophobic marches" or not' the answer is NO. What they know is pointless

What context do you want them to report to the world, that there are foreign nationals committing crime.

Your own statssa can't even determine the percentage of foreigners that commit crimes or report accurate numbers of the percentage that make up prison inmates so we must rely on your "lived experiences" to determine the truth eh?

IronGalaxy:
Most people not the media houses..

So Al jazeera completely clueless of the crime/inequality issues and illegal migration in South Africa or the zama zama's that were trapped underground for months?

IronGalaxy:
So how is this not "xenophobic "?

Even it were, are you trying to justify your xenophobia by calling out the xenophobia that occurred in the 80's. Like seriously?

IronGalaxy:
Here's the thing, if you gonna report something without full context, you're no different to a propagandist.. "why are these South Africans marching'? , why are their demands like this,? etc.. provide context, because saying things like " it's day 3 of South African xenophobic marches" is lazy reporting my friend.. and all these media houses are guilty of this..

But most people here already know and have commented on what the problems are in South African in terms of crime, drugs, corruption, government incompetence, bribery, misallocation of health care resources e.t.c

Why do you think they still believe you are targeting 'foreign nationals" and are "xenophobic"?

IronGalaxy:
um no... What do those circumstances have to do with you wanting "Ghana to go"

1. Economy bad- high unemployment, citizens target foreigners( Ghanaians)
2. Retaliatory immigration policy- Ghana expels Nigerians when their economy tanks as well so Nigerian reciprocates.
3. Religious riots- Riots in Kano city break out, The North blames all non-indigenes including foreign nationals from neighboring countries for rampant display non muslim practices.

Anything else?

IronGalaxy:
He really exels in these long winded whataboutisms and explanations that ultimately say nothing

Yes Yes, and you keep indulging me.

IronGalaxy:
So why ask "Ghana to go" then?

Is that some sort of trick question or a gotcha moment?

You asked me what brought about the "terrible" event and I gave you the circumstances that precipitated the action that followed.

IronGalaxy:
And what makes you think those news houses are exempt to spreading propaganda?

Media is not only news boss.. documentaries, podcasts, etc all this is media... Donald Trump might have lit the "white genocide" misinformation a lot of media took that and ran with it .. and many believe that to be the truth to this day

You always dismiss the real concerns and real lived experiences of South Africans to amplify the "xenophobia" victim narrative.. its glaringly disingenuous, the poisoning, the crimes, the lawlessness, the illegal immigration, all these are happening at the same time.. so how can we stick to one story?

Propaganda to what end?

I can see why the Americans might be doing it but how does Al jazeera benefit from spreading propaganda about what they too have termed Xenophobia?

As for other sources of media such as podcasts, Tic tock'facebook posts spreading false information, well people who buy into that kinda opinion-based stuff are not very bright upstairs.

JaceBlaze:
Mental gymnastics,long-winded 'splaining' just to end up saying absolutely nothing,that's what I call it.

Just cause its above your ability to comprehend doesn't take away from the fact of the matter.

IronGalaxy:
hahaha.. what brought about that "terrible event"?

1. Economic decline- Oil price crash in the 80's
2. A retaliatory immigration policy of the Shagari administration.
3. Religious riots.

IronGalaxy:
I want you to tell me what it was

A terrible event between two West African nations.

IronGalaxy:
Seppuku what was "Ghana must go"?

You want me to condemn that one too?

JaceBlaze:
Splaining.

contextualizing.

IronGalaxy:
The hypocrisy is what frustrates me the most

But I have condemned the Nigerian criminals and the Nigerian tribalists and now cannot you say I can't condemn the Xenophobes.

Right right.

IronGalaxy:
Jesus christ.. arent you bored with this.? Seriously..goddamn. youre fighting nail and tooth to label us "xenophobic"... my guy, call us any name you want, its makes no difference anymore..
we know what we are and what we are not ..

Why the frustration man. You are the one who volunteers to come on here. Nobody is forcing you to listen to me.

JaceBlaze:
You are just 'splaining' at this point.

No, we are adding "context" to your earlier statement.

IronGalaxy:
You have Nigerians going around claiming "SortofFreecarns are killing us Oo" they even stormed the South African embassy in Nigeria with those false claims..
...where do you think they get that?

The Media..

No they get that from fake social media sources not the BBC or DW Africa or Al jazeera.

IronGalaxy:
The world thinks we hunt white people like game..and there's a "white genocide" blah blah...
Because of who? The Media..

No, That's Donald Trump and his spin doctors in the white house. The rest of the real media had already done their investigations and found all of it to be false.

IronGalaxy:
So dont act like you dont know Media has the power to change or manipulate perceptions

"Xenophobic attack, xenophobic attack" every f....ng day! A clear thinking knows it's got to be more than that

You mistake Social media where anything goes with real journalism. Every media house can't be conspiring against you all at once.

The real media has been covering your Xenophobic tendencies since the late 2000's.and know this is more than your so called fight against Illegal immigrants.

Even your heroes March and March keep shifting narratives and can't stick to one story as they find themselves getting caught out. Today its criminality and Nigerian drug lords, then its spaza shop owners poisoning their kids, then its legal migrants heading to clinics for treatments now its Illegal migrants or are they all one and the same. Which one is it eh?

Ahh Mfethu just admit what we can all see.

IronGalaxy:
The whole world is responding to sensationalism..

Yes, those lazy journalists. Always misrepresenting South Africa from 2008-2025.

It's an agenda against the people of South Africa. Funny the Apartheid government used to the say the "same things" about the reports coming from SA back in the day.

I guess things never change.

IronGalaxy:
Lol.. the " debates" can continue for all I care, it doesn't change the fact that they are spearheaded by people who have no clue what's going on..

As the saying goes "In the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king. "

I am guessing the whole world are the blind ones and simply making up stuff.

I hear you. SMH

IronGalaxy:
Yes, your opinion in the matter remains. I won't change your victimhood
The fact of the matter remains though.." we are not xenophobic" i echo the sentiments of my president..
Now take a hike, im more interested in the recently released UFO files..

Let me save you much time my dear boy, the only expo you will get is exactly that, unidentified flying objects not out of this world technology.

Meanwhile the debate on South African xenophobia continues everywhere.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nL6Dd0nmlGc

JaceBlaze:
I could have sworn I have seen on Tik Tok and read some articles about ICE going door to door and arresting people without warrants.There were some Mexicans who were even fetched from their workplaces so I don't know if I should just take Seppuku's word just because he said so.

Violation of the 4th amendment "unlawful search and seizure". Illegal ice raids.

FYI. They are required to have a type of "warrant" even for workplace arrests, they just peddled the "wrong one."





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZgFOV7gCHA

IronGalaxy:
Convo is running in circles... the claim was South Africans are inherently xenophobic against African immigrants... that claim in not true.. so whats the brouhaha all about?

The claim remains " South Africans are necessarily xenophobic towards African migrant"

As far as it not being true,I will let your fellow brothers in the video speak for me on that matter.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVf43U35hWQ&t=2433s

IronGalaxy:
Lol.. you're just desperate to be vindicated..I only admitted water was wet.. pipe down
The claim was "South Africans" were inherently xenophobic..stick to that claim

But we are talking about South African water here. You don't really care if Angolan water is dirty now do you?

The claim was " South Africans are necessarily xenophobic towards other African migrants"