₦airaland Forum

KingCold:
Cheap deflection.
The bottom line, is you have far more pressing issues in your country..actual people dying.. but the eyes, the mouths and hearts are too focused on another country

If you count the number of Threads on the front page and compare them with South African or xenophobic topics, you will see we discuss these pressing issues about 20 times as much.

Math doesn't lie. YOur issue is bantu education and your people always in their feelings.

KingCold:
Why should I care about Boko Haram when you Nigerians dont care ??..the only thing yall care and infatuated about is South Africa this, South Africa that, xenophobia this, xenophobia that.. its a mental illness at this point

Take a break from nairaland its messing with your reality. There's 220 million of us, only about 10% have time for you but in absolute numbers it might seem overwhelming for you.

KingCold:
Nothing to do with algorithms.. yall so invested on the so-called xenophobia that you neglect issues that need your attention in your countries.. yall are quick to tell the AU to sanction South Africa while all sorts of shenanigans are happening in your country..

We are as concerned as Xenophobia as South Africa is at taking a sovereign country known as Isreal to the ICC.

Bantu education is terrible.

KingCold:
Either way..this cant be more important than people bring slaughtered in your country.. you have misplaced priorities you hypocrites

Redherring again.

If you want to discuss Boko haram, plenty threads here to jump on.

KingCold:
hahaha.. call it what you may.. but protests in another country telling you to go back to your country can't be more important than people being slaughtered like chickens for their religious beliefs in your backyard... you're so myopic is laughable..

Who are you asking to go back ,foreigners in general, black foreigners, Africans, Refugees, economic migrants, drug dealing Nigerians?

Confused lot.

KingCold:
lol, which people ? The ones that are also talking about xenophobia ? Your media "xenophobia" blah blah , your actors, xenophobia " blah blah. your politicians "xenophobia blah blah. its ridiculous actually.. the misplaced priorities.. but then again, i keep saying you're hypocrites

The alogorithms you follow are skewing your reality so you can't see what is out there. I don't blame you though you spend too much time on the internet and are being radicalized by a far right agenda

KingCold:
So chasing kids who are flooding our system is worse than you dismembering innocent people of their organs for money?

Redherring.

KingCold:
Seppuku we just witnessed Christian teachers being mauled by machete wielding bandits in your country. and here you are still yapping about "xenophobia"..surely, that's more pressing than the protests here in SA...

Goddamn

My people are handling that issue here on nairaland. I am covering international and disaporan affairs.

Nice try deflecting though.

andrewza:
The answer is zero. No one has died from the anti-immigration protests.

The two nigerians that died were killed by the police and the SANDF. There is currently a multi-departmental anti-crime operation in South Africa envloving the SANDF, where the one Nigerian was killed and the other one was killed by the city police in Johannesburg.

Neither case has any proven it was a Zenophobic killing.

If we look at your record 2008, 2015, 2016, 2022 we see about 65 people were killed during your xenophobic attacks.

It's only a matter of time.

HellraiZA:
If that method works then why haven't you applied it on your end? Because I think it's interesting how you all get in your feelings and become defensive when you are assumed to be criminals in foreign lands but still won't remove yourself from countries that think this way about you.

Nonsensical point.

A negative/defensive presumption in of itself is not a bad thing because it's human nature and a form of self-preservation, but when you allow ignorant and illiterate human beings this primordial sentiment you allow them the ability to degenerate to the most primal or natures and harm other human beings unjustly.

I am not conceding my humanity to those types of animals.

HellraiZA:
A South African is exercising his/her freedom of speech,not matter how misguided it may be.I don't think an outsider should be bothered what South Africans call their leaders.And I don't remember saying it was okay for if South African called him that.Just because I don't address them on NL don't mean I approve of the messaging

And Yes I have a problem with outsiders using our history and struggle heroes for cheap Internet jabs.

You people are very childish and insolated .If you are so incensed at what people think about your leaders on the internet, maybe you should switch off and remove yourself from places where you are going to hear that and stick to the chatter that goes on in your shebeens.

You can't have it both ways.

HellraiZA:
Someone called us shitty people and used Lucky Dube and Mandela's name in a very disrespectful way and you think anything constructive was supposed to come out of that? You can't be for real.

But your people also disrespect Mandela everyday on social media by calling him traitor. Why are you now sensed because it's a Nigerian that said it.

In your emotions.

HellraiZA:
Where do you see that in my reply?

Respond to the subject matter and not the person. This is far more constructive.

Morizo:
But a documented research shows that 85% of crimes (drug, romance violence, theft etc) are committed by South Africans. Why pin it on fellow blacks as an excuse for you failures in entrepreneurship and talent?

There's a rape every 51 seconds in South Africa and whose committing those crimes?

South African men kill their women in the slightest provocation or when she wants to leave and they also good a world record for such crimes. Is it black foreigners that caused it?

South Africans lifestyle encourage the spread of HIV Aids and they have the the highest percentage in the world. What that caused by foreigners?

Inasmuch as I advocate for our corrupt African leaders to build their countries but your excuses are just plain dumb. You think you'll take over their businesses when they leave?

Even if you do it will collapse in few months cos of the lazy lifestyles most of the South African men live

Madiba will be rolling in his grave...

The talking point they will give you is that what is your business if their people are committing High numbers ofcrime as long as it is "South Africans" committing the crime . The Stats are meaningless to them.

HellraiZA:
I will not let a guy who's from a country where they kill human beings and harvest body parts for riches lecture me about morality.A guy whose government watches daily while Boko Haram behead human beings for failing to recite the Quran (a religion not even indigenous to his land) trying to lecture me?



You are way out of your depth with this one.

But how does that justify your Xenophobia?

frankoben:
You talk like someone that only lived in the last century.
Well I guess most of you guys are jobless out there, it's why you have all the time in the world to mobilize yourselves running into thousands to carry out Xenophobic mayhem on harmless people. Try to take time out and find out the kind of people in other societies that do the same as you. guys. Let me give you a lead, terrorists, touts, criminals etc No responsible person will ever carry out such acts of gross inhumanity to another even little children. Take a hike man

Bros. No dey argue with Sad Africans. They are a special "breed". No amount of reasoning will deter them. They are only here on nairaland to fight you because they can't locate those Drug dealing Nigerians.

Murketeer:
So the 3 Million Chinese he told you about that are Canadians are failed ?... Is China a failed country ?

Logic is the only foreign concept for them. You are wasting your time trying to reason with ethno nationalist lumpen radicals.

HellraiZA:
Your country did not fight Apartheid.Some of our people were studying in Nigeria and it was few of them.You are not the reason Apartheid fell,I know it's a huge blow to the over bloated ego but those are just facts.

Even if we didn't how does that justify your xenophobia.

Useless deflections and talking points.

Segzy19:
You still can't comprehend my comment. It's too deep for you. So I will leave you to your own.
You South Africans are so shallow.... I lived and studied in UKZN for a while. I know how you guys think and behave.... Arrogant and ungrateful...
Shame

My brother, I worked with some organizations over there as well. The ignorance I witnessed was unbelievable.

andrewza:
Show where this has happened?

I can show where Nigerians have done crimes worse than that

You are not at the killing stage yet but the rest of what he stated is absolutely true. You are harrassing, beating, initmidating and punishing Foreigners for your governments failiures.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TudaDGKdMRs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Trv8yOZmzRk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA2AWgSpVTM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4499mLk--eI

themanderon:
Hahahaha. So South Africans don't sell drugs? They surely do not commit crimes. They are Angels that can do no wrong right? You better wake up to the reality facing you xenophobes.
Your foolishness as a people would soon boomerang on you if you don't re-orientate yourselves.
Wake up Black South Africans and take responsibility for the mess you have made of yourselves. Immigrants are not your problem. Laziness, jealousy and hatred for anything that looks like you are the real issues.

Tell them a millions time they will tell you about "lived realities".

We tell them to arrest, deport, jail and send back these "criminal" Nigerians like other countries but when they know their own government are involved in these crimes as well and because they can't reach them the poor immigrant next to them is where they unleash their hatred.

JaceBlaze:
It all boils down to preference I guess.Maybe being in America knowing there are far right Nazi is better than living in a country that has Islam extremists like Boko Haram,same as being in a "xenophobic" country,so your point is??

If its a preference then it boils down to a form of subjectivity and if so what is the point of pointing that out since it cannot apply to everyone?

JaceBlaze:
Are you for real?

So where's the outrage for kidnapped school kids and the beheaded teacher? I don't see the chewing and the walking.

Do you have to see it for it to exist?

Do you frequent Nigerian news channels?

Do you see that what is being discussed on Nairaland about kidnappings?

or are you asking me as an individual?

IronGalaxy:
deny all you want. Its the truth..

Your truth.

brain54:
Too bad...


Apartied really did them much damage. Sometimes I really don't know if to feel pity for them or get angry at them cause I know it's the effects of apartied.

Its like someone who is traumatized from events of the past.

Even a judge might be lenient on him while delivering judgement for some of his crimes!

They are heavy on their emotions and so I have more pity than anger for them.

Far right marches occurred in England, Sweden etc, nobody in the world even notices, but they believe they are "special" people and what we are witnessing in South Africa is somehow a "unique" phenom and we must all just leave them alone to handle their "internal" issues.

Those who are ignorant of history are doomed to repeat it

JaceBlaze:
And mind you coming to a "xenophobic" country is optional.There is nothing that force these people to here.

There are far right Nazi and White supremacist groups in America but people still migrate there .

What is your point?

IronGalaxy:
its selective outrage my friend. Terrorists can ambush and massacre 60 Christians today, tomorrow though, Nigerians and other Africans would still be yapping about South Africa and their bloodless "xenophobia" till August..

Another infantile and ridiculous South African talking point.

We can condemn and call action on both situations at the same time which we do but you want us to "focus" on one and ignore the other.

JaceBlaze:
Yah I think we have reached that point where we just gonna have agree to disagree.

Fact is a South African was never a threat to a Nigerian's life,even if you take body count from 2008 attacks and add with what's happening now it still doesn't and will never amount to Nigerian lives lost at the hands of Boko Haram and bandits.

My last words on this matter. We can walk and chew gum at the same time. Calling out Xenophobia when we see it does not mean we ignore Killings in Nigeria.

brain54:
Hahaha...


Those guys are unreasonable. I learned a long time ago never to argue with a soutie. He will only keep going back and forth with useless arguments and you will end up getting frustrated because you genuinely want him to understand he is unreasonable.


Their logic is entirely different. Only them understand themselves I guess.


What don't know is if they do it on purpose to get under someone's skin or if genuinely that is the way they actually think!

It's the way most of them think my brotha. Pent up anger from Apartheid that was never dealt with so they are itching for blood on the streets.

Its psychological damage nje!

Jayhome24:
You are still not making any sense bro. I challenged you to pls list 5 wrong or crime Nigerians are committing in your so called South Africa.

Pls in any accusation geniue evidence is a very vital context so pls list 5 wrong doings attributed to Nigerians and I will stop asking you questions. Pls be honest in your conscience as a human created by God give me 5 reasons or crime committed that burning shops and killings is the solution?

Bros no mind am. When you checkmate him, he will find a way to wiggle out. The poor Sad Africans refuse to live in reality. Its pent of anger,frustration and after effects of Apartheid that I driving them.

Nigeria this, Nigeria that. We live in their heads rent free.

JaceBlaze:
Not even 92% but okay.You live in a country that has a population of 220 million people and you expect us to japa like you do? In your case it's the corrupt government that squandered your resources and it resulted in your people taking risky routes to find themselves scattered around the world aimlessly.South Africans travel for leisure and not looking to be permanent citizens of the country they travel to.

So no need for the back and forth. The facts are,

1. We "travel" far more than your people be it leisure or Japa.
2. There are groups of black South Africans who travel to other countries in search of greener pastures and permanent citizenship albeit a smaller number but they exist in the NHS in the UK, as AU pairs and Eb visa holders in the US and workers/teachers in China. Ask me how I know?

JaceBlaze:
I don't know you buddy so I wasn't talking about your experience,I was talking about the average Nigerian who finds himself overseas.Most of them are roaming streets with expired visas and some of them took route Mediterranean in log rafts,sad state of affairs but it's true.I wasn't attributing anything to you personally but if you wanna fit the shoe then be my guest.

You must get your head out of the internet and stop watching those videos of mediterranean crossings, its skewing your reality. The people that make those journeys make up a small percentage of Nigerians. Even if you attributed 1% of our population to that phenomena that would amount to roughly 2 million Nigerians attempting that cross. That's an astronomical number in absolute terms.

Secondly, it is uncommon to see a Nigerian anywhere roaming the streets idle. They would be chewed out and chastised. That false narrative perception can only come from people who want of further an agenda of dehumanizing others.

JaceBlaze:
It's conjecture and it's all based on a personal vendetta you have against SA because when these other countries call you criminals and want you out of their countries we never see this whataboutism you always do when it's us pressing your criminals,in fact you all start blaming a certain tribes in your country for spoiling your name abroad.All of a sudden it's not xenophobic when others want you out..hmm.The irony here is that you are showing me clips of Asian criminals being exposed on a South African news channel and another one is them standing in a South African courtroom so how are we being 'unfair' to your beloved brothers?

Which countries want us out Mfethu, Please don't mention Ghana, UAE or Seychelles. These fictitious countries you are referencing to pursue criminal syndicates of all kinds including Nigerians, flush them out, parade and deport them. This is the reason we do not call them out. They are targeting the correct individuals. You South Africans on the other hand are collective punishers. You are not pressuring "criminals" in any way instead you attack, beat and harrass vulnerable migrant communities you do not like. Its xenophobia. Let nobody fool anybody here so spare me the dribble with your accusations of personal vendettas. I have been on to you guys for years.

JaceBlaze:
Your country is 100% black population so who do you expect to see at the airport? Black South Africans actually travel more than you,mind you I said travel,not escape.You are still stuck with your outdated and overused stereotypes about us not travelling.

1. Your country is majority 92% black as well so that point is moot.

2.Don't set aside my "lived experience" my brada. I have traversed many a airport on the continent including your Oliver Tambo, DF Malan and King Shaka. Most of the international flights in and out of the country are not carrying "your" people. The best a black South African can boast of is Mauritius, Bali or Dubai but sprinkles of them at best.

3. As far as escaping, well my friends and I have escaped numerous times and comeback all the time if that's what you want to term it.

JaceBlaze:
Blaming South African government for your natural criminal inclination is diabolical.When will your people account for what they do in foreign lands?

1.There is nothing natural about criminality. Its an effect of desperation and despair, much like your Xenophobes, don't you think?

2.The criminals will account when you arrest them and send them back home. Individual vs collective punishment.

JaceBlaze:
Always bringing imaginary Jews and Indians to deflect.Why would you put your name inside the passport of a xenophobic country? The same country you have been running campaigns to boycott? I don't get it really.

1. I didn't personally put my name inside one of your passports but if you are talking about the desperate and criminally minded element of my society, well if you ask my opinion, they do it to take advantage of your system. I don't think there is a nexus between that and a concern about your Xenophobic tendencies.

2.It's not conjecture, my friend its exposing how myopic your thinking is as you zone in on your favorite subject of "Nigerian criminals" because of your xenophobic tendencies and fail to cast your sinister web of hate across a multiplicity of criminal behavior in your beloved Sad Africa.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYANzJDuaeM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAYU3vPrVPw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG-gASCdw6c&t=75s