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adjoviomole:
Have read it all before. What about the seal and platypus and utter?

What's the religious relevance of these endless biology questions? Will the details of how seals evolved change your view on evolution?

adjoviomole:
And from what land animal did the whale evolve frm?

This page is a good starting point for answers to all your questions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_cetaceans

Their was no witness to evolution, no one saw the lightning that struck d pond filled with bacteria.
No one saw the bacteria forming into a new specie. No one knows what the 1st specie d bacteria evolved to.

Is there any witness to creation? Did anyone see God creating the 'heavens and the earth' and forming man from dust? Do you have the video?

One of the symptoms of religion is that it causes people to seek spiritual solutions to purely medical problems.

Dermatographia is a condition also known as skin writing. When people who have dermatographia lightly scratch their skin, the scratches redden into a raised wheal similar to hives. These marks usually disappear within 30 minutes.

The cause of dermatographia is unknown, but it can be triggered in some people by infections, emotional upset or medications such as penicillin.

https://www.drugs.com/mcd/images/image_popup/DS00755_IM02553_mcdc7_dermatographiathu_jpg.png

Most people who have dermatographia don't seek treatment. If your signs and symptoms are especially bothersome, your doctor may recommend allergy medications such as cetirizine (Zyrtec) or diphenhydramine (Benadryl).
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adjoviomole:
Dey developed mutations like the gill? Dis gill was it fully developed wen dey wer on land, or wen dey got to the water?.

Whales and dolphins (which evolved from land animals) don't have gills. They breath through modified nostrils at the top of their heads, known as blowholes. They can hold their breath much better than we can, but if they can't get to the surface to breathe, they will drown, just like us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkX6Qn1XeBs

adjoviomole:
The land animals dat evolved into water creatures, why did dey move into d water?

They moved into water because they developed mutations that allowed them to satisfy their nutritional needs by eating fish and plankton.

4everGod1:
Seun is always quick to jump on threads he sniffs the word EVOLUTION on and vehemently wants to prove he is something of an authority therein.

Actually, you don't have to be an expert on evolution to respond to the religiously motivated criticism of evolution that we often see here.

4everGod1:
I suggest you read this your post again so you would see how crazy this theory sounds.

It doesn't sound crazy to the vast majority of scientists, particularly biologists, who are very intelligent and rational people.

So DNA can help fast track everything and in the process we pass through looking a cell to fishlike to then human all in 9 months yet you say evolution helps us adapt by altering certain features like giving fish legs right? So the baby in the womb was it conceived and start growing with legs in the womb? Remember ot began from a simple single cell so to you thats not what evolution depicts.

Evolution alters the features of animals by changing the DNA code that determines what they will grow up to become. The process of altering the DNA is driven by random mutations and natural selection, which is slow. The process of development of an animal from DNA is fast.

You also mentioned natural selection....Evolutionists declare that man is the pinnacle of evolution yet via the same law of natural selection man could not borrow the best from all other of his evolutionary processes.

We still do not have the best eyesight of all creatures, We do not have the best smell (nose), We do not have the strongest jaw, We do not have the ability to regrow lost limbs like lizards regrow tails, we do not have the ability to camouflage ourselves like chameleons do, we do not have the greatest hearing for all sound frequencies, and so on.

The law of natural selection should have easily dealt with this problem but no it did not but somehow other "lesser" animals got the best of these aforementioned things....

This is actually more of an argument against creation and intelligent design. The bible teaches that man was created in the image of a perfect God, so it must be baffling to you as a believer that God hasn't designed us to have the best eyesight, smell, jaw strength, regeneration, etc.

The theory of evolution says nothing about man being the pinnacle of evolution. Some scientists would argue that bacteria are the 'pinnacle' of evolution because they are the most abundant creatures on earth. There are more bacterial cells than human cells in the body of a human.

We don't have the best eyesight, smell, hearing, strength, healing, etc because the mutations to improve these features either never happened or didn't improve our chances of survival when they happened. Evolution is a process riddled with imperfections. It's not divine design.

when you reason it deeply I am sure even you would have doubts about evolution as its filled with suppositions and probabilities and outlandish assumptions with questionable or no proof besides the cloak and dagger story of it taking billions of years to happen.

For me it's easy to accept 'suppositions' that make perfect sense, are supported by abundant evidence, and are accepted by most scientists.

So if we as humans are billions of years from the first evolutionary process this clearly states that we are still evolving which was why I I gave the example of human reproduction..... If 50 million people 1000yrs ago began reproducing then by now we would have had 250million or more reproductive cycles individually yet with no evolutionary change in sight or even the slightest hint of it.

We have seen some evolutionary changes. I mean, why do different ethnicities look so different when we all come from the same ancestor(s)?

Ochedi:
lol...is this the Seun there say owns nairaland??..really?..okay

people fall well in their meetings cos of the special grace on them..I pray ur mind understands this

How come Jesus, who is regarded as the Son of God himself, didn't have that special grace? Who is more anointed than Jesus?

Why do you believe it's a cobra?

4everGod1:
So which did we come from? Simple evolution or DNA process?

This is a baffling question. Evolution alters DNA, of course.

We are not to be compared to a computer system. We are 10000000 times more complex. If we can evolve from a single cell in 9 months with the aid of DNA as you put it then at what point in the evolutionary process did DNA come into play.

We don't evolve from a single cell in 9 months. The DNA contains a biological code that makes a fertilized egg develop into a baby and after the baby is born, guides the development of the baby into an adult. What the process of evolution does is that, it takes the software for a particular animal and then alters it so it would develop into something that can survive better in a particular environment. So you could have a fish, and then the routine that develops the fin is altered so it develops legs instead. The routine for the tail could be halted if it's not needed. Different animals can look very similar in the womb due to the fact that all animals run modified versions of the same original DNA "software".

Plus if DNA did come into play then surely evolution should not have taken billions of years

DNA is written not by a programmer but by random mutations and natural selection, which take a lot of time to develop major features.

Les:
let not your heart be troubled, God is perfect but the vessel, man, He uses is imperfect so mistakes are bound to happen.

Knowing that the bible is riddled with errors, how can you be sure that the key verses you rely on for your salvation are not also erroneous?

4everGod1:
smh and do you know that evolutionists claim that life began from a single cell and it took us billions of years to evolve to whom we are today yet it takes th single cell in a womans womb just 9 months to become a full blown human?

That 9 months the single celled egg divides and further divides and then becomes a zygote and an embryo with gills and fishlike and then takes the shape of a human all in 9 months.

Did evolution suddenly find a way of speeding up the process now?

DNA is, among other things, is a biological "software" that guides the process of turning an embryo into a full grown animal. Evolution primarily alters this development process. It's intuitive that "writing" a piece of software takes much longer than "running" it after it's been written.

4everGod1:
Read up Seun

https://www.google.com.ng/search?q=lanugo+function
"It helps to hold the vernix in place to ensure your baby's delicate skin doesn't become chapped by the long immersion in amniotic fluid."

4everGod1:
So what you are saying is that if they had remained Naked they would have developed fur?

Actually, a bunch of naked people moving into current Eskimo territory would have just died. A slightly less unrealistic scenario is if we never developed the ability to make clothes to insulate our bodies. In that case, we would probably have evolved to grow thick fur for winter.

if this were to be the case then how is it that all babies regardless of their region while in the womb have a fur like covering called Lanugo and this helps keep them warm while in the womb and they lose this fur around the 32nd to 36th week before birth....including those of eskimo babies...Isnt it logical and proper for evolution under natural selection to retain the fur of eskimo babies?

Lanugo has nothing to do with keeping babies warm. Being inside the body of a warm-blooded, fully-clothed mother is what does that.

It's very sad that this is the only way that this man and woman could get any human affection in their lives. I hope they have condoms ...

4everGod1:
So is the ability to make clothes part of the evolutionary process the OP is talking about?

Did the eskimos develop needles for fingers or threads for hair?

They won't evolve fur on their bare skins unless hairiness increases an Eskimo's chance of survival. Since they have clothes, this isn't the case.

4everGod1:
WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!! Seun le nu e!! Haaaa....smh and facepalm at the same time.

So people in Paris evolved to start designing clothes and waering them.

People in China evolved to becoming fabricators and geeks and sending their products to Nigeria


Nigerians evolved to importers and not manufacturers and globetrotters abi?

Seun Seun Seun how many times did I call you....

No, that's wrong. The big brain evolved in Africa. The first eskimos who moved to the north pole already had the ability to make clothes.

adjoviomole:
The Kidney Barrier Fish release harmful byproducts in their bodies directly into the water. Terrestrial animals, however, need kidneys. Therefore, any animal that makes the transition from water to land requires kidneys before making the change.

Actually, lots of fish have kidneys: http://kidneys-are-us.weebly.com/fish.html

adjoviomole:
If evolution was true, then the eskimo's would not need to make winter cloths for themselves. Why? Because based on evolution they should have evolved furs to protect them from the ash winter. May be someday, the eskimo's will grow furs
Over to the wise men!

The Eskimos don't need to grow their own fur because evolution has already given them the ability to hunt animals and wear their fur.

Ouwanisola:
Who else is seeing this
Nairaland.com using Firefox browser android
Mailed the mods twice
Cc:seun
Is it the latest mode of ban

which network?

I don't even know where to start.

please get us the video. it must have been a terrible experience for the lady. To be slapped by a pastor in front of a congregation for such a silly reason.

It's not about being choosy; its far better to be choosy and marry the right person. You probably aren't looking in the right places. Be tactical.

Unbelief is the bomb, bro.

Yes. Your phone should be silent in church, not switched off, by the way.

ChemicalReaction:
if you think religion is a scam, why do you try so much to convince people?

So that they will not be scammed.

WORLDPEACE:
Sounding like a theist. Does this sound familiar? "He is not a true Muslim; Islam is a religion of peace. No true Muslim will force people to convert to Islam". We all no history says otherwise.

May those communists be forever bleeped for giving ammunition to dishonest demagogues.

GidiQuotes:
The law only arrest you when the deed is done, the spiritualist just advertised himself. Serious people will meet him after the show and real things will get done.

If you promote yourself on TV as a hired assasin, the law will come after you. That's essentially what he did from the POV of someone who believes black magic is real.

KingEbukasBlog:
China is fighting tooth and nail to kill Christianity but the opposite of the expected corollary has been the result - Christianity keeps waxing strong.

Bleep those communists. We are opposed to government-imposed atheism. We believe in freedom of religion and the freedom to drop religion.

GidiQuotes:
The spiritualist have a bright career ahead and you want him to kill on live TV and get arrested for murder?

He was not afraid of being arrested when he went on TV to boast about his ability to commit murder using black magic.

FunkyMetahuman:
But no religion should be protected on nairaland.. There should be only one religion section or divided section for every religion.

In an ideal world where every nairaland member had armed bodyguards, a bullet proof car and a bomb-proof mansion, this would be the case.

winner01:
The target is christianity, that's why there is no christian section

The target is traditional religion, that's why there is no traditional religion section.
The target is Jehovah's witnesses, that's why there is no Jehovah's witness section.
The target is the grail message, that's why there is no grail message section.
The target is occultism, that's why there is no occultism section.
The target is atheism, that's why there is no atheism section.

The idea is to expose peace loving christians to the mockery, bigotry and rage of the atheists so that they can be bullied out of the faith.

The idea is to expose peace loving atheists to the superstition, bigotry and rage of the christians so that they can be bullied into the faith.

nwasinachi:
many are occult members disguising themselves as atheists all just to destroy or bring down christianity

Can you tell us how you got this "information"? Do you attend the occult meetings in which they discuss their plans? If so, in what capacity?

Stalker365:
Seun should just remove Religion section. Cos him/He (ain't sure which is right) and his goons keep blaspheming.

Can you point out some of the things I have said which you consider to be blasphemies? Bear in mind that I speak for myself; I have no goons.