Amujale:


Firstly, Yoruba is an Ethnicity and not a tribe.

Secondly, there are no tribes in Africa.

Anyone looking for tribes, will find them in Asia and Europe.

Furthermore, let me now pass you back to TAO11 to give you that work.

Cheers!

MetaPhysical:


The sound "du" is both spiritual and phenomenal. It can be combined in many ways to express ideas. It is never a stand alone, always in a combination. If it occurs alone anywhere it is informal, meaning other parts combined with it were stripped off to give softness in its expression.

Why is it spiritual?
There are different types of clay. A particular type that existed in primordial beginning is the "du" type. It is hard!

To soften and make it pliable for construct it was put into "m", an equivalently spiritual primordial water with flow (rhythym).

The "Dum" product thus became the first man, according to creation story.
This man history called Adam. In Yoruba spirituality he is called Odumila. His cult is called Adimu or Adamu.


Why is it phenomenal?
The color of that primordial "du" was the original black. Its essence is parceled into human consciousness so that we are constantly in awe of its organic state and purity. Humans will always yearn to return to it....to reunite and concile with that beginning.

A desire for reunification to the "du" is given context in various aspects of doctrines for social evolution. As we progress forward in time and newness, we remain attached to "du" and wish that our evolution will land us back to that pure organic beginning.


"Eve" is a principal identity. From it derivatives were created - Life, Love, Live, and so on.

Eve is actually Efe! Eve is also the polar opposite of Dum. While "dum" consist of clay and water, "eve" consist of fire and air. Each exist as a separate creation. When the two energies combine a new creation is produced and we call this emerging product "Life".

So the ground zero, the centerpiece where energies of creation combine to produce Life....we call Ile Ife!

Gelede, the Yoruba masquerade celebrates the essence of feminine energy. One of the masquerades of Gelede is the Efe.

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Ile Ife has an indigeneous people and a migrant people.

The indigeneous people possessed the "gn" consciousness. The migrants possessed the "du" consciousness.

The natural colors of the indigeneous was red (crimson). For the migrants it was blue (indigo).

Ile Ife was not an indigeneous name, the migrants brought that name with them when they settled into the Niger-Benue valley. Old Ile Ife was on the bank of River Niger. The new Ife was a relocation.

Ogun was an indigeneous deity and the principal god and protector of Niger-Benue civilization.

The rulers of the Niger Benue civilizations and the migrants from Afro Asia began a new partnership of conquest and dynastic ruling in Old Ife.

The indigeneous deity worship was a synergy with the belief system of the migrants, who were mostly driven out of Afro Asia due to political and religious tumults. Therefore a hybrid worship and integration of cult practices evolved.


Amongst the indigenous of Niger-Benue you will see words like "ogun", "igunu", "ginua", "ogene", "ogoni", "gona", "gana", and so on. They all derived from Ogun the ancestral deity of Old Ife, and the protector of iron mining, a primary mineral resource in the valley.

The Niger-Benue valley has red clay, opposed to "du" of the migrants. Their red clay is the "gn" consciousness.

This consciousness gave formation to the prominence of color red in their social affairs. The kings of "gn" consciousness wear red hats or crowns. They and their priests wear red robes in official engagements.


I will end this here. Some other time I will discuss Oduduwa and Mecca.

macof:


Smh.
For you to tell me to do my research and study well

What do you study /studied? What's your profession? What research have you conducted? What institute did you submit your research work to /is affiliated with your research?

TAO11:


Bro! Stop joining forces with ignorant ones to repeat this Mecca nonsense. Oduduwa is not a Meccan.

There is no such account in Meccan writings or tradition.

Oduduwa has no meaning in Arabic.

Such account of Meccan origin of Oduduwa is alien to our history and unheard of prior to the late 19th century.

Stop parroting it. It's pseudohistory.

Learn history, not story.

macof:


1. Nothing concerns oduduwa with mecca.
2. I'm still asking people who like talking about Lamurudu to explain how this person fits into Meeca history
3. Oduduwa had many sons not just Okanbi... Infact I doubt there is any Okanbi, because the only time you hear this name is in reference to him as the only son of oduduwa when we know that oduduwa had many sons
The whole Kisra - Lamurudu - Oduduwa - Okanbi genealogy is just nonsense in my opinion

TAO11:


Bro! Stop joining forces with ignorant ones to repeat this Mecca nonsense. Oduduwa is not a Meccan.

There is no such account in Meccan writings or tradition.

Oduduwa has no meaning in Arabic.

Such account of Meccan origin of Oduduwa is alien to our history and unheard of prior to the late 19th century.

Stop parroting it. It's pseudohistory.

Learn history, not story.

samuk:


I initially avoided your compatriots massaging each others egos and calling Benin people names until one of them invited me in, otherwise I would have just ignored you guys and allow you to enjoy yourselves because we the Benin are not faced by many of you and what you have to say because like I said before, we know the Omoluabi Yorubas.

davidnazee:


You are indeed a fool. U argue like a child. Who ever said anything about a hill being around or not around. Does Oke Ora mean hill or it’s nam of a place?
Please allow a more mature moneywoman talk on behalf of oduduwa.. ur argument sinks Ife further down into darkness.

back2sender:

So you dont even know your history. So Oduduwa na arab man now.
When we say you people dont have a culture unaa go begin argue. Tomorrow una go claim sey Oduduwa naa from isreal

gregyboy:
The ife-artworks has has always been a controversial topic for most anthropologist and authors on the originality of the artworks, but most times the controversy are always short-lived, anthropologist believe the ife artworks were not originally of ife orgin, they believe the yoruba people had migrated to the location ife were they found the artworks and began worshipping them and even began practicing the facial scarification on the artworks, some authors believed believed the ife people had found it somewhere the original people left it and they took it to ife and from ife it got to other yorubas areas
This doubt had risen from the lack of adornment of the artworks by the ife people likewise the lack of information of the people who had made the artworks in ife, the regalia had been also different from the regalia of the yoruba people when they first originally came in contact with the yoruba people,
Unlike the benin artwork which was adorned by the oba and benin people and it showed by historical details of thier past that made more sense that thse artworks were originally the artworks of benin peole

This are just reconsideration of ife artworks, the quest of tracing the ife artworks has been impossible believing the original people had gone extinct


Cc
Metaphysical
TAO11
gomojam
DonCandido
Amujale
macof
Sewgon79
lx3as
Opiletool
nisai
2fine2fast
Aphrygian
Olu317
Obalufon
geosegun

GogetterMD:
She's a member of the US Airforce and not the Nigerian Airforce.
We recently commissioned female fighter pilots back home one or two years ago I think

zionmde:
Thats encouraging.

When will Daddy freeze share food to all his children or are they waiting for tithe payers' money?

packagerz:
Dagrin was born on 21st October 1987 in Ogun State in the south western part of Nigeria and died on 22nd April 2010 in Mushin, Lagos State in the south western part of Nigeria at the age of 22 years old. He started his music career in 1994 until he died in 2010 at the age of 22 years old.

Exactly ten years today that Dagrin left this sinful world..

Rest on bro..
Your words are ever grin in my heart.

Comedian Deepackagerz

edward1106:


It tells u the title is all but a name. Those kings too are just too greedy, no wonder the gods are confused on what judgement to pass when they are called upon.

luluman:
The haters and bad belle will not applaud the hausa man now , but they will swarm in like bees if it were a different story. Yeye people.

macof:


In laws, friends, acquaintance we all have, you are not the only one who would know some Ga people, that is if you weren't even lying about that. So this is no answer to the question

Mr. Man all this personal attacks is nonsense. Address the post and leave long talk
I didn't attack you

Here are the two points of my previous post again in case you missed it
1. What's the correlation between Benin and Accra
2. That certain families in Yorùbáland and elsewhere have Benin origin doesn't make them Benin till date.

ghostwon:
Look at this time traveller telling us stories with no dates and no proofs and which didn't take place before his eyes.

Myths and other fictions are not history. You call me revisionist and then proceed to tell stories with no proof.

Facts: ife was a small village when the British arrived and took over without a single shot.

Benin was an empire and fought against the British.
Precolonial map of Benin below.
The people rewriting history are the guys who fed you all these lies which you repeated as your gospel.

AreaFada2:


Hehehehe. So Oduduwa didn't use chain to climb down from heaven again? And not coming down from the Hill? Abeg forget Nimrod.

Mankind originated from Africa. We came from no other Godforsaken place. We have only moved within this continent. It's others that moved out. Arabia was Islamized over 1,500 years ago. No evidence of Oduduwa until 12th century.

AreaFada2:

Lol. Do you know people have spent decades of research doing research into these things?
The languages are not even similar.
Whereas bodily needs to tell you that Igbira and Yoruba are similar or that Benin and Urhobo or Degema are very close.

Again educate yourself properly. It's not my argument. It's convergence of local history, poetry and modern scientific research.

As we already know our SW people think they have monopoly of cleverness. Anyone not doing their bidding is stupid. Only tribal supremacy is important. Truth has no meaning. Even SW people bold enough to be objective is called "omale".
Oduduwa was an exiled Benin Prince. He didn't didn't descend from any bloody mountain, from any chain from heaven or magically wander across any God-forsaken Sahara desert from Israel or Arabia. The versions are so many that you should be ashamed telling your kids such humbug.

Quite pathetic for people who revel in and boast about being educated.

TAO11:


Awesome!

Wondering if I should tag you in on the other thread.

It features a very interesting exchange:

(1) On the ancient Binis regarding the Ooni of Ife as God Almighty in human flesh.

(2) And on the traditional rite of burying the heads of late Obas of Benin in Ife at a site called Orun Oba ADO.

At the moment, the Binis on that thread have absolutely nothing more to say in reply to the overwhelming evidence I have submitted on point (1). They've shut up on that!

For point (2), even though I haven't submitted the evidence yet, they've smelt the rat --- based on the lines of my argument --- and they've unilaterally ran away (without permission) from that point lest I submit the evidence which obviously will turn out disgraceful for them.

I will nevertheless put forward the evidence and seal their disgrace just like in point (1).

Let me know if I should tag you in.

Cheers!

lx3as:
Actually, there was nothing
like Bini empire but Yoruba Oba's Bini
Kingdom.

Only four empires existed in West Africa:
Ghana, Mali, Songhai and Oyo.

Then we had Ife, Bini, Ijebu etc. as kingdoms...
Although it's believed that Oyo empire was a continuum of Yoruba states which Ìfẹ represented earlier; even the Bini Kingdom emerged from Ìfẹ in virtually everything: Arts, culture, religion, etc.

https://courses.lumenlearning.com/boundless-worldhistory/chapter/west-african-
empires/

http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Oyo_Empire

https://seunfakze./2012/02/19/the-oyo-empire-by-prof-george-ayittey/

http://www.fsmitha.com/h3/h28af3-4.htm

http://www.tubmaninstitute.ca/sites/default/files/file/LAW_Oyo_texts.pdf

SavageResponse:


It probably started whnile your brother was living at your aunt's place.

At 26 your brother should know that incest in not not proper and usually leads to birth defects in new born babies

ghostwon:
ife was a small and young village and oyo was a small and young kingdom although way bigger than ife.
Oyo had an army, ife didn't.
What we have is this:
Benin empire >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>oyo kingdom >>>ife village

BrutalJab:


Burna boy original and full album got nominated.

He doesn't need to attach with someone else.

BrutalJab:


Mr man, Wizkid didn't get any Grammy nomination even by attachment.


Burna boy's Album not even a single got a nominated.


Come back here and argue when any Wizkid song at all get nominated.


Nobody is better than Burna boy in the Nigerian music industry

ORIENTATION101:
soco got more than 100million YouTube views already and still counting .

Tells us about your hero views on YouTube .

Like i said burna is not on davido and wizkid level

Both of they have more hit tracks than burna

Both of them have more international collabos than burna

Both of them have more followers all over the world than burna

Both of the have more international awards than burna

Both of them have more mega endorsement than Burna

Both of them re financially ahead of Burna

Both of the recieves tripple of whatever burna charge per show.

Both of them have been consistent in music industry for a decade while burna peak of career started in 2018.

I can go on and on .anyday anytime burna is not on the level of wizzy and Davido

ORIENTATION101:
which song did wizkid sample?
Where did he sampled it from?


You have no achievements to burna boy name rather than grammy nominee, that wizkid, femi kuti, seun kuti , sunny ade e.t.c all got without noise

Tells us what Burna boy have achieved in is career so far
Musically, financially , and helping industry mates to get to stardom

seanwilliam:
stop saying nonsense with confidence.. both wizkid and burna boy, none of them dey sing sensible song.. none at all...

.

But when it comes to awards, recognition, fan base, influence, endorsements and respect.. wizkid no be burna mate..
The gap na 100- 15
Burna started picking up in late 2018..
Wizkid has been in vogue since 2010...

WIZKID is the biggest naija music export

The only sensible hipop naija artists na 2face and psquare ( when they were together)

Kendaboss:
Every body will always rates himself high. If he says he is the best, he is the best! I'm surprised though people are are not dragging him, because when Burna said he is the best na una still follow dey drag am

davidnazee:


Did you get that from Tao or your dumb brain made that up? So during the time of Oyo empire, the capital and headquarters was in Ife? You mean Ife and Ijebu were inside Oyo empire?
Anyways I always believed Oyo empire was a myth and now u just increased that belief.

You are dumb sha, a real Yoruba revisionist.