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FreeStuffsNG:
Smh. This is falsehood. Fox is the equivalent of fake news platform in Nigeria. A lot of ignorant unpatriotic people with low self esteem will swallow and believe this fake news. Fox News report on economy? Smh.

That country called Argentina is in deep mess so much that it's public service and economy is in utter mess.

You don't achieve deficit by cutting off the salaries of workers and improvishing your citizens and country when great nations like Nigeria with almost 6 times the population of Argentina, is increasing salaries , providing direct palliative to support the vulnerable members of the society and growing GDP quarter on quarter basis while fighting inflation aggressively around 30% compared to that of Argentina that is almost 300%!

"He (Javier Milei) laid off over 70,000 public sector workers, cut pensions by 30% and froze infrastructure projects, pushing the country deeper into recession. Supermarket sales fell 10% last month. The International Monetary Fund lowered its 2024 growth outlook for Argentina, projecting a 3.5% contraction.

Poverty now afflicts a staggering 57% of Argentina’s 47 million people, and annual inflation surpasses 270% — a level unseen in a generation."

Above and the screenshot below is the ugly and sad reality of Argentina today and not the Fake news by fake news spin Fox media.

why do you guys hate good news about others so much, it is the crap mentality, you hate on any good leader or nation who shows what true leadership is about, children of hate for a reason, if your claim of being patriotic is real, this is where you take inspiration and emulate others who are doing it right, but the mission is not to do it right but to gaslight and use propaganda as the tool while the nations wealth is being looted. Shameless govt / supporters.

cr7lomo:
Very racist statement

I swear I was even ashamed of him, saying stuffs like this in public

IyfeNamikaze:
From what I've read, ife didn't fight with THE Benin Kingdom but rather with Igodomigodo (the kingdom that preceded the Benin Kingdom)

who was the leader of ife then? Remember ife never had a monarchy then, how could ife had defeated the Benin kingdom or igodomigodo as you stated, when igodomigodo or Benin kingdom was larger than ife, btw I don't have a record of a battle ever taking place.

OVB123:
Despite his short coming, I believe he is the right man for the job.
Let give him the opportunity to work and forget about what happened.

those shortcomings are 90 percent of the job, how then is he the right man for the job

Amayabor1:
The OP produced a short video while trying to deceive the gullible. This is the full video. Here is a summary of What the oba of Benin said during his coronation;

Oduduwa was a benin prince who was exiled and went on to become ruler in Ile life. After the ogiso dynasty ended in Benin, the benin people were in need of a ruler and they reached out to their exiled prince. Instead of coming, he sent his son (oranmiyan) to benin to rule and oramiyan gave birth to Eweka the first and later left the kingdom.

A Benin Prince (Oduduwa) founded Ile life after he went on exiled from the Benin kingdom.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Qk8LO4t1OY?si=vjzAs_GUMGiTQWZl

God bless you for standing for truth.

PulaPower:
Let me ask you first;

When did Bini came into existence?

Who built the bini kingdom?

the bini kingdom has always been in existence since centuries ago and it as always had an monarchy that dates back centuries, same cannot be said of ife who never had leadership or a direct line of succession strangers from around the world took turns to rule over ife even oduduwa was not a local he was a stranger to ife, even a servant once staged a coup a siezed power, if according to your yoruba history oduduwa was the founder of ife, and oduduwa was a stranger, who seized power, you can put 2 and 2 and see that for oduduwa a stranger to come to ife and seize power he must have come from wealth and power, and he must have had men who fought for him, most likely a prince from another kingdom and according to bini history a prince relocated to ife and for him to have established a monarchy in ife he must have also come from a place where monarchy was being practiced being the bini keep kingdom. No be everything Dem dey argue you can actually piece history together and get the fact or close to the fact.

PulaPower:
Your bone of contention is wrong..

Their was nothing like Bini before the first Oba of Benin who happens to be Oranmiyan’s son! It used to be called Igodomigodo, a very small remote village. So, how can Oduduwa be from somewhere that wasn’t in existence?

if you have an open mind you would see the truth,imagine you calling the bini kingdom a small remote village, but the bini kingdom has always been larger and mightier than ife, the bini mornachy is older than ile ife's monarchy, if ile ife never had a monarchy then how come they could give bini a monarchy, history never had it that bini an ife fought a war even if a war was fought the bini kingdom was larger and mightier than ife so ife could never had conquered the bini kingdom and take over the monarchy, also ife never had a direct line of succession the monarchy was being seized by coup plotters several people ruled ife even a servant once ruled ife, think about it, if ife never had a direct line of succession how can anyone believe they gave bini a king, the Truth still remains a bini prince once ruled ife and the oba is a direct descendant of that prince.

DelilahMakinde:
What I understand about the whole debate is Benin was originally administrated by aboriginal Bini kings, who did not use the title "Oba"

Later on the Bini kings were displaced and usurped by ile Ife Princes that produced the first Obas...ancestors of the current King.

Read vehintolar submission for further clarity.

wrong history, so ife ife princes displaced bini king how could they have done it without a war? And if a war was fought there is no way ife could have defeated the bini kingdom because the bini kingdom was larger and mightier than ife kingdom, secondly ife never had a monarchy read the history anybody coul rule the ancient ife kingdom several outsiders once ruled ife even a servant staged a coup and seized power and became ruler, if a servant can stage a coup and rule ife why then do you doubt a bini prince once ruled ife, also if ife never had a monarchy or a direct line of succession how then could they have given bini a monarchy? Even till this day ife does not have a direct line of succession. The story we know is this a bini prince once travelled to ife and he later ruled over ife his son later became the oba of benin, and that's the truth

Zege7716:
Benin ancestry is not Yoruba, it's only the Oba's ancestry that comes from there. The mistake people make is to think that the King and the people share common ancestry. Some of these Kingship came about about by conquest and not necessarily by being indigenous.

do you know that he bini kingdom was larger than ife so how could ife have given bini a king without conquest? And do you also know ife never had a direct line of succession, succession was by palace coup, so how could ife had given bini a monarchy when it never had one? Do you also know a slave once ruled ife he staged a palace coup and won and he became leader of ife, if a servant can become king of ife why then do you doubt the history that a bini prince once ruled ife and the oba is a direct descendant of that bini prince, being a prince from the great bini kingdom might have given him more power and wealth to fight to be king of ife, because then ife never had a king leadership was by coup.

DelilahMakinde:
Well you know more about his family tree than he does.... interesting.

it is not a myth, if you have an open mind you would see the truth, the bini mornachy is older than ile ife's monarchy, if ile ife never had a monarchy then how come they could give bini a monarchy, history never had it that bini an ife fought a war even if a war was fought the bini kingdom was larger and mightier than ife so ife could never had conquered the bini kingdom and take over the monarchy, also ife never had a direct line of succession the monarchy was being seized by coup plotters several people ruled ife even a servant once ruled ife, think about it, if ife never had a direct line of succession how can anyone believe they gave bini a king, the Truth still remains a bini prince once ruled ife and the oba is a direct descendant of that prince, even till this day ife does not have a direct line of succession.

galserv:
Only Binis have the story of the myth/fluke called Ekaladerhan.

it is not a myth, if you have an open mind you would see the truth, the bini mornachy is older than ile ife's monarchy, if ile ife never had a monarchy then how come they could give bini a monarchy, history never had it that bini an ife fought a war even if a war was fought the bini kingdom was larger and mightier than ife so ife could never had conquered the bini kingdom and take over the monarchy, also ife never had a direct line of succession the monarchy was being seized by coup plotters several people ruled ife even a servant once ruled ife, think about it, if ife never had a direct line of succession how can anyone believe they gave bini a king, the Truth still remains a bini prince once ruled ife and the oba is a direct descendant of that prince.

DelilahMakinde:
But your kings are

That's the important thing.

he is he descendants of a bini prince who once ruled ile ife, not that he is a descendants of ile ife

NSNO:
Binis have always acknowledged this. The bone of contention is that Oduduwa was a Bini prince called Ekaladerhan (forgive my spelling).

this is what they don't know, and don't want to accept, the history is that he is the son of a bini prince who was exiled to ile ife, a bini prince once ruled ile ife

Jayhome24:
Then give us tthe name of any most senior staff in the office above the mman or pls shut da f u c k.

two confused Ronu folks, you couldn't read to save your life.

Akpakomiza2:
They voted him sir

keep quiet, nobody voted for this idiot.

FreeStuffsNG:
This was how they were mocking Asiwaju Tinubu then yet today his mockers are failures and amount to no good in life.

Even God hates scoffers so much that scoffers don't get the blessings of God. Never be a scoffer and don't ever be among scoffers if you want your dreams in life to come true.

shamelessness, the mockery is Apc always giving the masses criminals, illiterates, men of questionable characters as leaders, and your shameless folks will just keep supporting as zombies would always do. No reasonable soul should take you seriously always sounding like you stand for something noble, shame

Thundafireseun:
Use your google… ask around the court is on strike….

So what should the police do in this case ?

this has always been the police mode of operations, so no be today e start.

Thundafireseun:
Long but interesting read…

My major concern is why does Peter Obi feel that the police there was gross miss use of power by the police??

Dele should Defend himself…. Simple and short

is it in a police station that you defend yourself or in a courtroom, the police always getting involved is the missuse of power.

helinues:
Dumb gaslighting.

You will see other Yoruba's correcting Seyi on this thread. We don't support evil, we don't support disrespectful, we don't support arrogant and unmannered attitude.

Spade must be called what it is

you don't support disrespect yet you all hailed bayo onanuga when he called obasnjo an expired milk, who were the same people who insulted the living day light out of pa Ayo adebanjo for supporting obi.

Jonjam269:
The people of sit at home and IPOB terrorists infested region are crying more than the bereaved. Majority of Edo people accepted the elections and have congratulated the winner. But our blodas as usual are crying more than the bereaved.

you guys are just so insensitive, if anything it is the Ronu folks who are more concerned about the election in Edo, the mood I n Edo when okphebolo was declared a winner was the same when Tinubu was declared and both elections we're rigged.

Samantha125:
I'm from that family, the ladies live longer into their 80s and 90s... But I don't wish to live that long... 65 would be just fine for me.

this is weird.

completeskills:
This your analysis is spot on. I do not believe in the definition of betrayal as in the instance you gave. That's flawed loyalty supporters show to politicians. It also has some tribal undertone. I only called him a betrayal because of his many battles with those who helped him to rise. I believe there were some agreement in place which he agreed to before he was supported. Weather these agreements were right or wrong is a matter for another day. He reneged on them once he got what he wanted. He did it to APC and again in PDP. He is courageous but in Nigeria where politics is about feeding fat on the common patrimony by party chieftains.. those who invested in his election will feel betrayed. That's why I called him a betrayal....and he does not know when to draw the line like in the case of the Oba. I also know obaseki is not a career politician that's why he did most of the things he did. We need more non career politicians like him and Sim Fubara so that Godfathers will cease to exist in Nigeria politics.

true

completeskills:
I have gone through your post and have seen that you have a soft spot for obaseki. He did well generally in governance but his way of playing politics is too arrogant and self destructive. I like him too and actually wanted him to win but you are allowing your likeness for him to overshadow his short coming. You want to potray him as a saint When you know he is flawed in his relationship with people around him. When a particular issues keep happening between one person and several people..then it is time to look inward. Obaseki might have his own conviction but his antecedents will not inspire anyone to take a chance on him in future. Separate emotional attachment from your view of him and you will see how power drunk he was. For instance...in the issue of the Oba concerning the returned artefacts..what was he trying to prove? Apart from showing that he has the power to hold on to those items? The problem with the way we play our politics is that once we like someone...we feel they can never be wrong. Just answer this simple question... do you think any party will support someone like obaseki for any political position again? Be frank with yourself.


And a little advice for you....Learn to outline your opinions without littering it with insultive words. It makes no difference to your argument apart from brewing bitterness

I apologise if my comment may appear insultive, my take on obaseki is this, I want issues about him to be judged singular in the case with the palace I think he was wrong on that, that's just it, now just because he was wrong on that does not for me serve as a justification to just about any accusation from any other individual, let me be practical a bit, when they talk about obaseki and the betrayal thing they talk about how he betrayed his deputy, but for me that wasn't betrayal at all shaibu governorship ambition was wrong and unfair to edo central, how then did he betray shaibu, I am non partisan as it relates to politics I know he has quite a long list of aggrieved person's even in his party, yes maybe he has a character flaw, I just have a problem with the narrative that sometimes folks ,most especially Apc folks use to gaslight the masses by making folks like shaibu, oshiomhole, wike to look like victims, they will tell you osinbajo betrayed Tinubu, by running for president, igbos betray Tinubu by not voting for him in the last ekection, if you live in Lagos and you do not support Tinubu or Apc then you are a betrayer, the word betrayer as it relates to Nigerian politics for me just sounds like a word used to justify slavery and gaslight individuals against having personal ambition or say against a suppose godfather, the same issue is playing out in Rivers State you see how fubara is getting lots of support, against wike,but there are certain folks who desperately try to paint wike as the victim. In context when you look at the US elections Joe Biden wanted to run for a second term, George clonney met with Obama, and Obama applied pressure on Biden to drop out of the race, due to Biden health and poor debatethis is the same Biden who was vice to Obama, Americans and democrats never said how Obama betrayed biden, because Obama's concern was fair and valid.

completeskills:
MR man.. you are missing the point. In politics everyone makes concession. He left APC in acrimonious circumstances...same thing happened in PDP where he divided the party. Even his deputy who put his polical career on the line for him during his travails with APC ...what did he repay him with? If one person keep having problems with everyone else..does it mean he is always right? And you think everyone will have the time to come out and say he did something t o them? The man is a serial betrayal. He is a bad politician. I have nothing against him because I think he performed well as a governor but he must learn to make little concessions as a politician or he should remain in the private sector.

you don't get my point obviously, the whole " serial betrayal" thing is just some bullshit that has been spread and folks like you just echo it without even analysing it yourselves, tell me how did he betray shaibu? By your understanding of politics was it shaibu's turn to become governor? When it was obviously Edo central's turn, how did he betray oshiomhole also, oshiomhole wanted to give him the ambode treatment if you were in his position would you not fight, even after he decamped to the pdp he still reached out to oshiomhole several times, he invited him for events even awarded him, he never maligned oshiomhole in public or fight him the way some do by destroying their houses, who else did he betray, you all misunderstand obaseki's personality, obudu oshiomhole's deputy had intentions then of succeeding oshiomhole, but oshiomhole opposed him, why is oshiomhole not called a betrayer? A man must have its own conviction, and betrayer for me, I based on principles, imagine wike saying obaseki betrayed him, if you ask the idiot how, you will see it was because obaseki did not join him his aso ebi G 5 or whatever, did obaseki betray the pdp? No. So if obaseki had joined wike in his madness, I guess you would not call him a betrayer then, but if he had done that he would have betrayed the pdp, in that case who should he be loyal to? Is it not right that he was loyal to the pdp rather than wike? Yet you all still call him betrayer? The only thing you hate is for people you have helped to even have a opinion or say in anything, for people like you you believe that once you have received any help, that individual owns you, your thoughts, your actions your opinion and everything isn't that slavery and foolishness.

completeskills:
Obaseki was busy fighting everyone. People should learn that power is transient. Use your power wisely while looking ahead to when that same power is gone. One thing is certain...no one will support obaseki for any elective positionhe wants to vie for. He is not a trusted ally. His distrust by Edo people sort of effected his candidate.

and the people he fought has anyone come out to tell you why he fought them, it's pathetic when I see grown men repeating these lines, it appears to me like you guys can't reason for yourselves, aside the disagreement with the palace, one thing you can't please everyone especially when you are in power, when he fought oshiomhole, if obaseki was wrong why didn't oshiomhole come out and tell Edo people how he was betrayed, why hasn't any of them done the same.

kedeojo:
My governor CPS need a crash course on media engagement. How can supplementary budget will be as high as the initial yearly budget. Has you rightly said, supplementary budget should be an additional envisaged or identify area or problem to be solved and you raise a sum for it. Apc boast of great media personalities during the campaign and Okpeboho didn't find any of them fit for the all important job. Even the English from the end of the CPS letters are disgusting. That office is a sensitive one that promote the image of the government. The CPS has not be properly managing the affairs of the government. For now, he is the worst CPS Edo has gotten. Imagine my John Mayaki the CPS.

is this not the govt you support over an obviously astute ighodalo, now you are complaining, it's shameful how you guys intentionally support the worst candidate, then later start complaining.

DropsMic:
You are very naive. For your sake i really hope you are a teenager and not an adult

you are the one who is obviously naive, for you to think it is okay for millions of children to continue dying of malaria, if there are any challenges with the innovation then further research should be encouraged by both organizational and national institutions, not condemn it entirely due to some conspiracy theory foolishness.

[quote author=lailo post=132898136][/quote]you see how much you lie, the cbn governor under gej was sanusi, now if you mean emefiele, emefiele is from the south south, one thing I know also is that akinwumi adesina was minister under gej yet his name didn't appear on your false list, interesting to note that the page you copied this from is from a tribal page guess that's where the yoruba Ronu came out from, and even by your false list, I do not see how the igbos dominated that list. Can you compare this to tinubu's where all top positions were given to his tribesmen.

lailo:
IGBOS IN TINUBU'S GOVERNMENT:
1. Rear Admiral Emmanuel Ikechukwu Ogalla (Enugu) - Chief of Naval Sfaff
2. Bianca Ojukwu- Minister of State Foreign Affairs
3. Doris Uzoka (Imo) - Minister of Industry, Trade and Investment
4. David Umahi (Ebonyi)- Minister of Works
5. Nkiruka Onyejiocha (Abia)- Minister of State for Labour and Employment
6. Uju Ohaneye Kennedy (Anambra)- Minister of Women Affairs
7. Uche Nnaji (Enugu)- Minister of Innovation, Science and Technology
8. Deputy Speaker of the House of Representatives, the Hon. Benjamin Kalu
9. MR. Mbaeri Maurice Nnamdi- OSGF
10. DR. OBI Emeka Vitalis- PS Budget and Economic planning
11. DR. Ada Mary Ogbe- PS Solid minerals and Steel development
12. DR. Akujobo Chinyere Ijeoma- PS Livestock development
And so many others heading ministries, Commissions, departments and Agencies......
Now you should list 10 yorubas in Jonathan government?

look at how you just added a past minister to the list, most surprising is you adding permanent secretaries to the list, you claim that igbos dominated the Jonathan govt, yet you couldn't prove it., As a counter to how tribal tinubu's administration is.

lailo:
Not senseless talk. Jonathan appointed more igbos and Niger Delta people in his government. His appointment was lopsided that his government was nicknamed Niger Delta republic of Nigeria. What you people are confusing is the more projects he did for the North while leaving his own region with no single project. These are not the same things. He sidelined the people of SW and the igbos were even boastful of that act, telling the yorubas to go and take appointment from Tinubu whom they were following despite SW overwhelming votes for Jonathan first election. So please if you don't know anything, pls get out and don't come and rewrite history here.

this is the lie that the yoruba Ronu crew keep dishing out in other to justify the tribalism of tinubu's govt and that of the APC, as I recall akinwumi adesina was a minister, Lola ade Johnson ( I hope I am correct) was also a minister just like Ngozi okonjo iweala, you guys have absolutely no prove to justify this lie you keep dishing out, even worse goodluck Jonathan is not an igbo man, but you guys still try desperately to put what ever actions he did on the igbos, aside the ministry of finance and that of the chief of army staff which ihejirika held for a while tell me any other top post held by the igbos in Jonathan govt that can be compared to the tribalism of tinubu's govt where the minister of finance, cbn gov, coas, immigration, firs, custom, justice, police, efcc, e.t.c are all held by yoruba folks.

lailo:
It was Jonathan who started it. The North through Buhari only responded more brutally and Tinubu continues this anomaly. You guys have short memories. Only Obasanjo was a saint and Pan Nigerian.

how did Jonathan start it ? Senseless talk

[quote author= post=132866931]No place at all to rest in the state he governed for years or anywhere all over our darling nation?

Ye ye dey smell. [/quote]did you say this same thing when the president was travelling to London and Paris just to rest, shameless pathetic people, who stand for nothing, your hypocrisy is very well known.