Ikinternational:


Thank you for your contribution.

Any sensible yorubas in the house? Please speak up

Answer him now. How many buildings does Atiku own in Igboland? Let's even start from there? He's your new Messiah so how much belief does he have in your land?

mekaboy:
When will they retaliate what the igbos have done to them?

When will they invade the SE buy land, build houses, estates. Set up factories businesses. Build plazas, buy an empty swampy place, fill it up, build houses and name the streets after them.

Build schools, open transport companies, dominate markets etc.

When o yee Yorubas, when shall ye Arise and invade the SE with investment and buy up the east?

Arise o yee Yorubas for the time is now. The time to invade your enemies and buy up their land has come. Arise, I say Arisssssssssssseeeeeeee.

Even you? With all the Articulation associated with you, you've descended into the gutters because you signed up for Atikulation"? Is the pain of defeat that much?

Think for a minute. Does your write up above make any sense?

Atiku really damaged plenty folks

kaypling:


Secretary of State is a diplomatic attache.. a lot of you really need to go back to school or read more. Being under educated is worse than not being educated at all I swear because while the uneducated admit they may not know and may be willing to learn, the under educated relish in their ignorance

You can imagine the illiterate you're conversing with, calling the US secretary of state an attache!!?

That's the same Pompeo they claimed called Atiku to assure him of US support just last week o.

Discussing with most of them is a bloody waste of time so it's sometimes best to leave them to their delusions e.g kanu has committed Trump, Putin and Netanyahu to bomb Nigeria if they don't release date for referendum

Where is sef? The guy's campaign picture threads were always mind blowing

duwdu:


Don't mind them; they appear condemned to forever believe in their own concocted lies, chest beating, and morbid hate for anyone who is not pro-biafra - even their own neighbours, best of friends and hosts.

In their wisdom, our elders say: The butterfly gyrates up and down as if it will land, only for it to end up disappearing into the bush without it achieving it's aim!

So shall it be with these destructive "agitators." In any case, the law of natural selection has always proved that the larger society always survives at the expense of this type of disappearing agitators who are simply pests holding the rest of their own clans down.

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I just tire bro

I don't know the madness that'll envelope someone to be believing the lies he himself concocted.

modath:


This is funny & scary at the same time..

It's the truth

Armaggedon:
That's your opinion. The election boycott was called off after a deal was reached with the FG

I've cancelled the other things you should keep for encouraging yourselves at your ummuna meetings.

Can you tell.what aggrements you reached with the FG? Was it Jibrin that kanu negotiated with or Buhari's corprse? Whom did kanu sign the agreement with?

blowjohn:


Telling u. If not that oshiomhole is one stubborn fellow, Buhari may even have lost.
He met his match in Saraki during the in house saga

No be small thing. The most impressive of all was when he withstood the set up with DSS without bowing. The guy is tough

Militant labor leader

If not that he came on the scene at the nick of time, by now Saraki would have impeached Buhari and Osinbajo and become interim president

FriendNG:


I hope they will finish it.

I hope so too

FriendNG:


Not only movement of Goods down north but also south. In 2016 cows where moved from northwest to Lagos via the old train. It will also be used to move perishable goods from the north to the South.

May be Sagay but obviously not Osinbajo because he said he is not happy with what happened. Except if he changes mind.

Its politics that made them start from there. Sameway Jonathan starts from Kaduna thinking he will get northern votes.

Las Las, the rail project will continue and will be finished to the benefit of all. Also the anchor borrowers program too will extend all over the country and to all agricultural produce.

The bottom line is that APC must work hard to justify asking for another mandate in 2023 irrespective of who's on the ballot

FriendNG:


Yet Buhari has not kill many on that? Because he did not continue to Abuja kaduna. He moved and start from Lagos. How many have he killed?

My dear, any sensible engineer will start such project from the costal area because it's primarily for movt of goods up north.

And I have never defend that and I dont like his silence on that either. But isn't same Osinbajo that's not happy when Buhari decided to act in the case of Cheif Justice?

You think Buhari would act on Onnoghen without Osinbajo and Sagay's advice? He knows he has first class law Profs by his side. I'm glad you are not happy with his silence on that because it affected the party e.g the IG that refused to go to Benue. Now Akume payed for that with his Senate seat.

How many rice fermers do you have in Ogun (just a state) compared to a region (of 7 states?)

By the time his tenure ends, who will remember rice farmers? I want something that everyone will use to be a legacy. Example Baro port, Lagos Ibadan rail, Itakpe-Ajaokuta-wari rail, airport terminal etc

So also there's more business needing railway to start from Lagos than the North. Common sense made them start from the West.

FriendNG:


The railway will link all State capitals. If I'm engineer I will start from both the 2 places. If no resources, when done with Lagos Ibadan, I will move to Kaduna- Kano.

I will not continue from Ibadan.

That's why you're not an engineer. You would have killed thousands

Only an idiot will think Buhari has not allow Yemi to perform his duty. Only unthinking trader will stil contradict self by saying Buhari foot soldiers are undermining Yemi.

You obviously don't read well. See my statement

b]Buhari gives free hand to his deputies[/b] but he just can't call his recalcitrant foot soldiers to order.

Ive been saying since that Buhari is a wonderful boss to any deputy, Osinbajo, Idiagbon, but he's terribly weak on his footsoldiers and only a child who lacks understanding will argue. How can DSS be antagonising Magu's confirmation and Buhari did nothing, said nothing?

How can DSS detained and interrogate Oshiomhole for 9 hrs on the instructions of faceless people in the presidency and Buhari did nothing, said nothing!!?

Railway Linking Half of the Southwestern Nigeria.

How many rice farmers were giving loans in Ogun state compared to those in the NW? Abeg you have no case.

Babzrockman:
I saw this poster somewhere in Kano and i begin to think that Kwankwaso didn't genuinely works for Atiku

Every body told you that nobody could challenge Buhari in the north, you guys refused to listen. Instead of campaigning on issues, you were abusing the man, calling him dead and Jibrin had taken his place. You didn't know that made his people even determine more to defend him with their votes.

Now, instead of learning from your mistakes, you guys have started insulting him and his people again yet you hope to gain politically in 2023. Isokay.

Now you're seeing the evidence to realize Atiku will lose in court the way he lost woefully in the elections

FriendNG:


Yes it's for town service. Who tells you it's for goods only? The old rail has been existing since and it convey both goods and human. Are you pretending not to know?

Smh. A rail that a pathway throu the jungle linking towns and will terminate in the north is for town service? Do you know what town service is? So if you were the engineer, you'd have started building from up.north instead of from down south?

There is at no point Buhari Buhari has turn Osinbajo decision. He always allow him to work but he couldn't even deliver his polling unit.

He had no choice. Every single decision taken by Osinbajo has been a master stroke and only an idiot will upturn it. You've started arguing like a an unthinking trader. You think VGC is occupied by people who believe in the social investment programs that excite Nigerians in Buhari's village?

Why did you say Buhari lost Aso Rock and Abuja again?

No one is denying that. But you in SW Support the opposition instead even when the party belongs to you. Even when you benefitted more. You're the least region to go against Buhari in terms of performance.

Clown

List what we benefited more than you. I'm waiting

stephleena:

So u have brains like this and all along you've allowed urself to be tramped on by a Gambari?.. there is more to your lineage inferiority complex,than I thought..

Thank God ur masters are resetting ur brains. they will never appreciate you guys..

what do u I have to offer to chameleons? Nothing..

Buhari offered u people railway, how did u pay him back?.. sit down and be humble

Congratulations. You're now gainfully employed fighting Buhari's battles

What did Atiku offer your fathers that made your ancestor weep on the shoulder of an aboki like this? What pains is in your lineage that's causing this much tears to your okpala ukwu like this?

FriendNG:



I know all this even better than you. It's no longer Lagos Kano, it's now extended to Kazaure (Jigawa) and to Daura (Katsina) boardering Niger republic.

All that are paper project, the rail was initiated since contract since OBj time. Who doesent know that.

We don't have to wait for another administration for the rail to reach Kano. Based on the report submitted to Buhari is that he should start from both 2 ends. Kaduna - Kano & Lagos - Ibadan. Because of fund shortage he started Lagos Ibadan. Instead of now for him to do the other end, they are trying to continue that of Ibadan to Abuja. Then by the end of 4 years won't have anything.

New Administration will come, the north will ask for Kaduna Kano and all the response that will come from southerners will be why has buhari refused to do it for you. He was there for 8 years. We know what we are doing.

My earlier argument stands firm. We have not benefitted from the Buhari rail revolution despite giving him the highest number of votes.

As if the rail line isn't meant to make movement of goods from the southern ports easier and cheaper to the hinterlands up to the north. Is it for town service? Are you pretending not to know?

Buhari gave your son all free hand to perform his function. So stop ranting on undermining your son.
Even he himself has admit that. Even when he called Buhari before taking decision, Buhari told me to do what he think it's right. Buhari told him he has all the power of a president. Thats y he was able to fire Daura.

I hear you. What would Buhari have done? Ask him not sack Daura with his stupid bungling of their invasion of NASS? How will he explain to the international community?

Inspite of their stupid attempts at power grab even when Buhari was sick, Osinbajo faced his job quietly. Buhari gives free hand to his deputies but he just can't call his recalcitrant foot soldiers to order. I wonder why

His people still did not vote for PDP. They rather stay at home unlike what happened in SW.

Now I'll just laugh about this point

At least we both agree he didn't perfom enough to warrant full support from even his own people.

FriendNG:


Seen now.




That cannot be regarded. Had it enter another state then we will agree to it. The railway is for Abuja not NW. It ends In the beginning of kaduna for Abuja workers to leave there. Had the railway pass through kaduna states as a whole and stopped at Zaria I would have agree with you.

It may interest you to note that the 4th segment of the railway construction will begin from same kaduna (not it boarder with Kano state) but inside Kaduna down to Zaria then to Kano state. Some NW dont even know the rail exist because it's not in our states.

So as far as we are concerned the railway did not cover a single NW states but only a portion of Kaduna to the advantage of Abuja.

And you've forgotten that the project is actually the lagos-kano rail? You've forgotten it must start somewhere? So you don't know it will continue up north from ibadan and was broken down into segments because of funding constraints? So you don't know that the Abuja Kaduna is also going to link it?

You have no basis. You simply want to rant because you think you have what I don't know

It's actually a win for PDP because they have 25% in all the states and scores the highest in votes in some states. Although APC win generally but not as expected.

And what is your stake in it that I should bother about your expectations? All sensible party leaders Nationwide knew APC had problems even in the north and they also know everybody put in their best efforts. I don't know what you're on about

After the president who has higher stake than the VP? is Peter Obi a presidential candidate? He is not even the VP yet but they deliver their son.

You think the our son mentality is all there is to it? Even when Buhari's footsoldiers did all they could to undermine this same our son? Are pretending not to know or what?

Ofcourse he is not supposed to interfere in PDP issue except if he wants to become Buba Galadima

That's the luck they had. That they were not in Buhari's party because his boys would have messed things up there too and no one will be punished

No matter what it is not NW or NE. Also they have 2 northerners to decide unlike SW.

I refuse to talk on NC because even where PDP is expected to have flawless victory they also fail there. They were struggling with Apc in Benue & Plateau despites campaigning with herdmen and other thing.

My friend, Buhari didn't perfom up to expectations. You know that and that's why the performance reduced everywhere including among his own people. He was very poor at party politics too. Extremely poor. Any other reason is begging the issue. Infact, ask Buhari why he's promising a more inclusive govt now. Ask him why he started making videos in the last days before the polls. He himself knew he was sitting on nails

Asorock community are dissapointed in their boss simple. But for Abuja they might be used to free money all those politician children. Atiku can also buy their votes in Abuja easily than NW or NE.

In the SW it's their son only. Had it been PDP filed a SW as vp I won't say anything.

Wait first. With your level of education, do you really think "it's our son" mentality should be the sole consideration in elections? So nothing else matters? What nonsense thinking is this?

Osinbajo knows why he had to camp in the SW the same way GEJ did in 2015. If you think deeply, you'll know too.

stephleena:

SO he's intelligent like this

Nobody in your lineage is fit to lace my shoes. Begone biko, I'm not interested in whatever you're offering

Donmedra:
the first day I saw Atiku,, saraki and Dino on stage in the rally was the day I knew he wasn't serious

The Kano rally with all of them, from Atiku down to the last, wearing the red kwankwasiya cap was a red flag(pun intended )

Kwankwaso just used Atiku to shore up his own political standing. Atiku was just like one of the kwankwasiya boys and he himself didn't realize

FriendNG:


What's your point with the comparison? Atiku has 25% in all the states. He defeated Buhari in some of the states. You stylishly fails to post that of PDP. And of you fan remember in 2015 Apc is an opposition party.

In your haste to validate your prejudice, you didn't see PDP. Check again it's there. When you see the PDP figures there, you'll get the point if your quest is honest and transparent

Railway construction in Half of the southwest states.

And the Abuja to Kaduna railway is not through the NW?

Only if you read I said they are dissapointed in him but not to the point of giving PDP upper hand like in the south west.

Remember it's a contest between a Muslim northerners. What is the contest in Southwest?

Which upper hand? Did PDP win SW? So his people are disappointed in him but SW has no right to be? Who has the higher stake? The president or the Vice president whom plenty of the kitchen cabinet tried undermining?

They still perform better than SW even with low turnout. They still deliver their 5 states. Not one of them Buhari win.

Because Buhari's boys didn't interfere in their politics to cause disaffection and anger with him looking the other way

I am less interested in the voting pattern of north central which includes Abuja. Let's discuss on NW / NE & SW. There we know each states stands.

Of course you'll look away. It's difficult to explain why those who work around him felt disappointed enough to give PDP the victory in Aso Rock and Abuja.

If you can find the answer to that, you wouldn't have thought of asking the questions you're still asking today

Donmedra:
I've admitted Atiku Abubabakar was never serious contestant.

Saraki was over hype

Obasanjo overestimated his influence.

Kwankwanson is just nothing.

True confession

You were warned but you refused to listen

FriendNG:



You're argument is baseless. You say let thing rest and yiurey still given me reason to continue the debate?

You want a debate? Let's go there

You should understand it's not poor turn out that's even the problem but rather voting pattern. How southwest massively vote for PDP is the issue.

You ask from Kano & other northern states. Yes there is poor turn out in Kano hence Buhari won with 1.4m against 1.8m in 2015. Which means 400k did not vote for APC. But did the 400k vote for Atiku? Hell no they rather stay at hime.

You're not well and it's very obvious. See comparison of 2015 results to 2019 results in the SW

Ekiti 2015 APC 126,331 PDP 176, 466
Ekiti 2019 APC 219, 231 PDP 154, 032

Ondo 2015 APC 299, 889 PDP 251, 368
Ondo 2019 APC 241, 769 PDP 275, 901

Osun 2015 APC 383, 603 PDP 249, 929
Osun 2019 APC 347, 634 PDP 337, 377

Ogun 2015 APC 308, 290 PDP 207, 950
Ogun 2019 APC 281, 762 PDP 194, 655

Oyo 2015 APC 528, 620 PDP 303, 376
Oyo 2019 APC 365, 229 PDP 366, 690

Lagos 2015 APC 792, 460 PDP 632, 327
Lagos 2019 APC 580, 825 PDP 448, 015

I went through the stress of posting the raw figures so that we can talk with facts. Can you substantiate the rubbish and nonsensical rants you've been on for 2 days now from the above figures? Show me the massive votes that PDP got?

Reason why the 400k choose not to vote they is because they are dissapointed by the performance. He neglect the region infrastructural wise.

Can you mention the projects going on in the SW that's not going on in the north west? What did he do for SW that he's not doing for NW?

Also you must not forget it's a contest between a Muslim Northerner and another Muslim Northerner. Again states like sokoto have PDP governor.

This is contrary to what happened in SW. The voters decided to cast for the opposition even when they benefit the government more any other region. It was never a constest of two Yoruba vp but one.

They only submission I agree with it in the earlier thread was voting accross religion. But all the remaining are shallow argument and you cannot shut me up on what I feel it is.

Wait first sef, is Osinbajo feeding anybody? How many fulani does Buhari feed? If the 500k fulani in Kano that refused to vote Buhari and also refused to vote Atiku, doesn't that tell you they're disappointed in him and all politicians? Shouldn't common sense tell you the same thing happened in the SW?

So Tambuwal is big enough to stop Buhari in Sokoto? When the kitchen cabinet we're encouraging disloyalty and disaffection in ondo, Oyo and Lagos, what did Buhari do about it? What did he do about Adamawa? Zamfara?

Are you blind to see that even the SE didn't turn up for Obi as was expected? What does that tell you? You think Nigerians are fools? Let APC fail then we'll see if we'll have a Nigeria to argue over in 2023.

Infact, I really want to know why Buhari lost Aso Rock and Abuja as a whole.

Try and explain that without insulting logic then you can continue your rants without let or hindrance

You cannot totally push the blame on governors, Buhari this that bla bla. You guys needs to do your homework ahead of time. All this defending wont take us anywhere.

You should be rest assured I will vote any candidate the southwest present in 2023 as far as he is capable. But I have 1 vote and what happen did not go down well with some northerners.

I said you have to do your homework ahead.
And if you think I everything is well & you fail to put your house in order then time will speak for itself.

You really have no understanding of party politics or democracy. Ask how Akinloye, Umaru dikko etc led NPN in those days to know what party loyalty and discipline means. What homework is possible when the president is encouraging indiscipline in his own party? If not that Tinubu insisted on Oshiomhole and that Oshiomhole's militant labor background prepared him to face the Hawks, there'll be no APC for Buhari to contest with today.

I'm not even angry about the SW issue as we knew it wouldn't cause much problems but see how Amaechi and Abe messed up Rivers with Buhari doing nothing about it? You think OBJ would be that docile about such?

At this time, I care less about 2023. I leave that to the politicians and their paid hacks. My focus is how Buhari will deliver without excuses for Nigerians from now till he leaves

Corrosiveman:
Keep Deceiving yourselves......If Atiku get 30% for Kano na Miracle

You said it and it echoes what Nasir D Ibrahim(naseer_dauda) said about it on Twitter that day

"The only problem about PDP can't differentiate dollars & pure love!! Just wait and see until election day then you will know the capacity of pure love #PMB we know"

FriendNG:
The north will support a Southwest candidate in 2023. Even though their outing was not as expected this time around, at least they contributed to the Buhari project better than any other region in the south.

If there is any reward for goodness is goodness.

Pally, let this thing rest abeg. Your focus should be on how to ensure APC delivers on their new mandate, not sharing what's in the future. Nigerians aren't interested in every day politicking to the detriment of good governance. If APC fails, you might not even have a Nigeria to share political posts in 2023.

Even Buhari himself will not be justified to ask questions of anybody because it was his own political naivety that made PDP resurrect. He set the stage for the reduced votes he got in his supposed strong holds and PDP were just too dumb not to capitalize.

Why he didn't perfom as before in the SW is the same reason why he lost his own Aso Rock units and Abuja as a whole. It's why he had drastic reductions in Kano, Sokoto, Kaduna, bauchi etc votes. It's the same reason why APC practically had lost every elective office in Zamfara if not that Zamfara PDP had no Wike to take advantage.

Plenty people scammed Atiku. Even the Economist?

Samunique:
Did u read this part ?


However, we also recognise that independent Nigerian voices have expressed
concerns about the conduct of the electoral process, in particular logistics and
results collation, and reports of intimidation of election officials.

And then? Does it clear Atiku to present the case at the UK supreme Court?

Stop clutching at straws bro. It's over. Even the US is currently fighting the demons of Russian meddling in their elections. They won't dabble into that of another country half way across the world

It's over

There goes the "Venezuela option" and "Gbagbo" treatment out the window

Those asking if the international community have congratulated Buhari now have their answer

Asshurbanipal:

I know you as a yoruba person. If I am right please how do you rate replies from your people here?

They're being civil. It's a discussion and as rational human beings, you are expected to respond to points or ask your questions in a civilised manner. The OP wanted to be schooled and I'm sure he's now better informed

Asshurbanipal:

Now this is what I am talking about. You are making serious sence

Sure