₦airaland Forum

CabbieAC:
You know low-key I'm happy with the fact that we lost Bakassi.After all it's supposed to be part of the red mud region so who cares.They should just make sure the same thing doesn't happen to Tongeji island

Lol. I believe the folks from Bakassi are the same as those from Calabar and are distinct from the pikeys. Anyway, they're all Bantus all the way to Southern Cameroon - Bantu expansion.

However, it just shows how weak a country Nigeria is with all the loudmouthed folks. Nigeria is big enough to make all these small countries play ball. If they head to Hague, they'll lose this one as well cos of the French. France and Germany dominate the EU.

superstar1:
Shows our lackadaisical attitude.

N.gger-area!!

The only thing these suckers know how to do is selling oil and looting the proceeds.

What happened to even protecting the territorial waters of the country with the navy? Since the place is an Island and there's encroachment, a normal and functioning country would build a naval base there. But these clowns are heading to hague again. The same hague that ceded Bakassi to Cameroon. Hysterical.

superstar1:
Ogun State Elders Consultative Forum (OGECF) yesterday tasked President Mohammed Buhari to ensure more presence of federal government in the Tongeji Island in order to further ward off intrusion of the Republic of Benin from the oil-rich border island.

Coordinator of the Forum, Aremo Taiwo Alimi gave the charge in Abeokuta, the Ogun state capital during a press conference heralding the 10th year anniversary of the Forum.

Alimi, who was flanked by other members of the anniversary committee of the 125 – member being chaired by former Justice of the International Court, Hague, Prince Bola Ajibola said if schools, hospitals and link bridges are built in the area, such would give residents a high sense of being Nigerians and at the same time, ward off the Republic of Benin’s inordinate desire to usurp the nation’s rich resources.

The forum further emphasised that the recent visit of President Muhammadu Buhari and Governor Ibikunle to Benin Republic was in part due to the Investigative reports of OGECF on the Island.

Alimi said a link bridge if constructed, would connect the Island to the nearest mainland in Ipokia, Headquarters of Ipokia Local Government of Ogun state, and spared the people of the pains of circuitous journey of first entering Republic of Benin before accessing their Nigerian Island and mainland.

Alimi noted that the said reports which were submitted to Governor Amosun and the President, gave the two leaders insight into the situation of things at the Oil – rich Island and said this in part, informed the visit to the Nigeria’s french speaking neighbour by Buhari.

According to Alimi, a renowned journalist and broadcaster, the visitation saved Tongeji Island, from being annexed by the Republic of Benin as the report was acted upon by the President.

But why are these smaller countries always trying to take Nigerian lands though?

This is strange cos I've never seen smaller countries cheat the bigger neighbour.

IlekeHD:
I love that song by Davido. Love it!!

Wizkidd had so much potential remaking Fela's song, but he came out with crap..... feraris ferashi. crap.


So much potential..... he had the beat, the video and the history (fela).



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAV4KlD86E8

Brapppppp! Chune!!!! I need to go find my dancing shoes and drink some henny to that tune!!!

Seeee Gobeeeee!

Girl, ya behind is a killerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFDu6ACKLKo

IlekeHD:
Ondo is great, only second to Ekiti.....jokinggg

Weirdos.

IlekeHD:
Nigerian music sucks (hiphop). I'm tired of hearing "judu soke" "bump that azz" "twerk" "ukwu/ikebe". So annoying.

I do like old classic songs from Orlando owoh, Ebenezer Obey, Victor Olaiya etc....

The girls teeth na wa. I love gaps but.....

Lmao. Sona was born and raised in London. The guy just speaks Yoruba fluently, I guess that's why he decided to do Afrobeats. But I do agree with you that Afrobeat is the most annoying genre of music out there cos they just make noise most of the time and they all sound the same. But I won't lie, some of the tunes are decent. I like Dbanj, Burna boy, Davido, and a few decent tunes from Wizkid. 9ice also used to be decent back in the day, especially that "Street Credibility" tune. And MayD is also decent.

What do you think about this tune by Davido? (though "Gobe" is my all time favourite tune by Davido lol).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxgYPz-sTc4?list=PLxon9uoRtTNbU1fOm5RbPX9GwpeYfRUpY

Musiwa419:
sorry, I just saw this now.

Tongeji Island is at Ipokia in Ogun, not too far from Badagry in Lagos(both towns are separated by the lagoon) it is also not far from Idi iroko, where the Nigerian Customs Border post is situated.

Those that have been there told me that Tongeji is a very beautiful Island, rich in crude oil deposit and surrounded by the Okun and Osa, but the natives(Egun) there are really really suffering due to government neglect. It is rumoured that they are even planning to cede their territory to the government of Benin republic if Nigeria cannot take care of them.

When Governor Amosun wnet there to campaign some months ago, he told them that the exploration of the crude oil in that Island depends on the intrest the FG shows to it but he will try his best to press it on the FG and also provide them with ammenities such as roads, clinics, schools etc which they were lacking. Till date, i do not think those campaign promises have been fufilled and if we arent careful we might loose Tongeji to Benin republic.

@excerpt in bold. Is that even possible without Nigeria sanctioning it?

Regardless, they need to do something about these folks and look after them.

I also read somewhere that Awolowo alluded to Epe all the way to Ogun waterside as being blessed with oil prospects. How true is this?

IlekeHD:
You won't like my album..... This is my kinda music

start @ 0:20

Lmao!!

You and missy89 are weirdos and ya taste in music sucks. That's the type of music that propaganda machine also listens to.

Or is it an Ondo thing, since you're also part Ondo?

Darn! I want something like my doozy Sona (Free Sona).

Check this out:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOCtJZ0SU8U

CabbieAC:
Huuuuh!

https://i.imgur.com/Ej8Oyf8.gif

Lool.

You're the duke of gifs.

We need some Harlem shake in there as well.

https://24.media.tumblr.com/a737aff378054e84fabdc25ba8bb3ca0/tumblr_micdnyh8aH1rwu9euo4_400.gif

IlekeHD

You're the DJ for tonight.

I beg you play some good music - it's Sunday night.

CabbieAC:
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Greedy mawffugh and his offsprings are still doing the same thing till now

The Eboe has always be greedy since his name was Eboe. He changed clothes to Ibo but never changed who he's. And now that he's Igbo - with "G" = greedy - as part of his name, the innate greed went up a notch.

CabbieAC:
Loool Shymm3x there's more to what those guys are gaining from Nigeria other than oil.They still have their oil wells all over the Niger delta and they'll protect those wells with the last drop of their blood since they know they won't have access to it once Nigeria disintegrates.But lets see how this pans out

There are actually four basins with potentials for oil exploration in Northern Nigeria. If they can find anything similar to what Sudan has, I doubt they'll want to share it with anyone. They were the first to declare secession from Nigeria and the only reason they stayed was cos of the diplomatic cable from the British high commission in Nigeria that told them about the oil discoveries and potentials in the Niger Delta. That was the same reason why Ojukwu also wanted that region so bad.

A lot of the oil wells they own in the Niger Delta aren't yielding that much anymore. Also, a lot of the oil contract licenses are expiring in 2016/2017. That's why there's a grand scheme to swallow everything and they're placing themselves in positions where they can do it, without that much resistance. Discovering oil in their region might change that.

Good news for Yorubas cos I know once the cow jockeys up North discover oil in large quantity - they'll break the country into pieces.

They're getting there and the Chad Basin should be blessed with oil, since other countries have discovered oil around that axis.

Nigeria close to oil find in Chad Basin

After years of prospecting for oil in the Chad Basin, Nigeria is “inching closer” to a breakthrough, according to Ibe Kachikwu. The group managing director of the Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation (NNPC) said the country may well be on the verge of a significant oil find in the Lake Chad area in the north-east based on analysis of recent seismic 3D data generated from the basin. Preliminary surveys had indicated that there is hydrocarbon deposit in an area covering 3,350 square metres in the Chad Basin, with federal government pumping close to N30bn in the last three years into feasibility studies of the oil potential there.

Countries such as Chad, Niger and Sudan with similar structural settings are already exploring or producing oil on their own soil, leading to conclusions that it is a matter of time for Nigeria’s turn. In a presentation to the Petroleum Club, Lagos, over the weekend, titled “Ongoing Reforms in the Oil Industry: Impact of NNPC Reforms on the Nigerian Economy”, Kachikwu said the corporation is injecting a lot of energy into the effort to ensure success in this regard. The Chad Basin “There are signs from the latest 3D seismic studies that oil may well be very close to being found now in Lake Chad after very many years of trials. I think that this is very key,” he said, according to a statement by Ohi Alegbe, the corporation’s spokesman. “It is key both for the geographical balancing of oil production and it is also very key for the purpose of refinery placement in the North in terms of access to crude. I am optimistic that by the end of the year we should be able to announce something major on this.” Kachikwu identified “key areas of urgent intervention” needed to drive and develop Nigeria’s oil and gas sector. These are: running production acreages with transparent and profitable partnerships to bridge capacity and funding gaps; encouraging investment inflow into to Nigeria’s oil and gas industry; and engaging with local communities. He also listed as “key” the need to drive regulation to develop the sector income via encouraging the fast-tracking of the petroleum industry bill (PIB) to clarify direction and encourage long-term investment in the industry. Kachikwu stated that the NNPC is projecting the inflow of $20bn in 2016 to enable the corporation fund major projects and improve its bottom line going forward. He described 2016 as a crucial year for the NNPC as it is expected to transit from historic loss environment to profit making domain.

Read more at: https://www.thecable.ng/kachikwu-nigeria-closer-oil-find-chad-basin

cc: CabbieAC and Mayoroflagos

sukkot:
they dont attach that much importance to it because africans win it all the time. come on man you have lived in britain and you still dont understand the mind of the white man ? and you say they made this competition so africans will catch up to europeans and south americans on the senior level ? really ? the white man loves you so much that he wants you to catch up with him ? shymmex you done smoked one too many joints brah. lmao

Lmaoooo. You sound like permed up Al Sharpton right now, big bredrin.

You know I have got no love for the white man. But not everything is about the white man trying to hold Africans/blacks down. This particular competition started in 1985 and back then, African teams used to get smacked at the World Cup. The exception were North Africans. African players weren't really playing in Europe like they do today, hence FIFA created the competition to bridge the gap and give African players more exposure. That was also what brought about the idea of letting more African players play at European clubs.

European countries for example attach more importance to the European under-21 competition than even the world under-20 World Cup. They don't care about this one. More time they just send schoolboys there.

sukkot:
really ? i need documents to back up the bolded

I'm at the gym now (leaving in a bit to go watch NFL) but I will see if I get one for you when I get home. Interestingly, this is the same topic we're discussing here and everyone's taking the piss loool.

Anyway, you can find the background story of the essence of age group competitions on the internet. It should be on FIFA's website or anywhere on the internet. It is similar to IOC and IAAF's programmes all over 3rd world countries. That is why other countries don't attach that much importance to it and they don't show it on normal channels - apart from Eurosport. Heck, the trophy is a ceremonial one.

Let me ask you one question you can relate to: would you choose Suge Knight's quick route to success by cheating/bullying everyone - or a Dr Dre who planned and persevered for a long time before reaping the fruits of his labour in abundance?

sukkot:
bruv, its 22 men kicking one white ball. its not the cure for cancer. relax. lmao

Loool. I'm about to go celestial now. Are you following me?

But how you relate, plan, and handle the round white ball is a reflection of the world we live in.

Now take a look at African teams and compare them to European and South American teams...can you see a big difference? Even the coaches for African teams are mostly Europeans. That tells you another story.

Moreover, age group competitions were created for 3rd world countries to bridge the gap, with European and South American countries at the senior level. But after so many years, how come African countries are yet to bridge this gap, despite winning all the time? It is basically cos of cheating.

sukkot:
I dont concern myself with the fact that their success does not transfer to the senior level. thats none of my business. i take each moment as it comes. whatever win they have now, i enjoy it and bask in it and at the end of that same day, i move on with my life. whatever the players do with their lives after that is theirs. thats just how i live my life and with that mindset, I will go ahead and try to enjoy this game tonight and if they win, enjoy the win and by tomorrow I move on with life not caring if they can transfer their success to the senior team.

And that makes you part of the problem. That's one of the reasons why we as black people have refused to make any progress cos we like short fixes and not long term planning to achieving proper success that will stand the test of time.

Anyway, I'm more interested in seeing the Super Eagles win the World Cup than some Uncles cheating against schoolboys for an inconsequential trophy. I'll definitely drive around London Town and celebrate that like I celebrated the Ghanaians with Ghanaians when they got to the quarter finals of the World Cup in 2006. And Senegal in 2002.

IlekeHD:
So does Airforce. Yet Seun still made him a mod.

Afam4eva also hates Yoruba......still a mod.

S3un see your life.

Lool.

But Bigfrancis is on a different level. That is the same guy who goes everywhere saying Egba and Ijebu folks are Igbos. And his reference: some Igbo nutjob called, "mimifiwon" from back in the day that said she's half-Yoruba and half-Igbo and her Igbo tutor in America told her that Egba folks are descendants of Igbo warriors, while Ijebu folks are originally Igbos - hence there is an Ijebu Igbo loooooooooooool. *Crying*

Now he's referencing "Nigerman" - an Igbo guy who always claim he's Bini to spout more hate on that thread. The guy is a lost cause lool.

sukkot:
well in that case dem niggaz is definitely not 17 lol . but still, you are not a completely righteous man so why choose this exact moment to be self righteous ? but you rather watch white boys playing in the epl and euro leagues but you will not watch naija because they are not righteous enough for your taste ? come on chief

It is never that. C'mon, I've always supported Super Eagles and I've all their World Cup jerseys from 1998. Also, I do go to all their matches in London. Went to the first one with my pops in 2004, when Martins made his debut for naij again Rep. Of Ireland with an amazing solo goal and I went to the subsequent ones with my uncles and friends - save for the last two games they played here. And that's cos no one was interested in watching them lol.

Cheating at age group competitions is not just it. Nigeria has won that tournament four times. But how many of these players have been able to make it to the next level? Now compare that to countries like Brazil, Argentina, and Spain that have had the same level of success at age group competitions and you will their achievements. The likes of Aguero, Oscar, Xavi, Sanchez, et al came via these competitions. Germany is still enjoying the success of the great Under-20 team they had that produced the Ozils, Khediras et al of this world. Don't forget the golden generation of Portuguese football - the Figos, Rui Costas et al - and how they were all part of the same great Portuguese under-20 team.

Where is the Nigerian version despite winning gazillion of tournaments?

sukkot:
these 2 you just posted are not in the 2015 team, or are they ? cuz i saw those guys and they do look kinda seventeenish. what under-17 team are these two you posted from ? the 2015 team ?

Lmao. They're. I got their names from the FIFA website.

http://www.fifa.com/u17worldcup/teams/team=1888317/players.html

CabbieAC:
Shymm3x have you profiled this Rotimi Badero before?

The guy must be a beast!Omo see profile

But how do we lure people like this back home though

I'm just hearing about him for the first time and I just googled him. Supremely gifted man.

Home is where the heart is and where you can thrive effectively, without threats to ya life. There's no home for these folks in Nigeria.

sukkot:
i see no difference between your two guys and the link i posted. they look to be in the same age bracket though

Lmao.

Let's do this way:

1). Victor Osimhen Vs. Ike Ugbo

Victor Osimhen
https://olorisupergal.com/wp-content/uploads/Victor-Osimhen-660x330-400x242.jpg

Ike Ugbo
https://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/players/23/2015/324x324/250076246.jpg

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2). Chukwudi Agor Vs. Matt Olosunde

Matt Olosunde
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/07/22/20/2AC277A100000578-3171184-image-m-25_1437591726535.jpg


Chukwudi Agor

sukkot:
deez boyz look young enough to be 17 though lmao

https://talkfutball.net/_soccer_/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/nigeria-u-17.jpg

Bwahhahaha. They look older than me.

Now compare them to Ike Ugbo and Matt Olosunde playing for England and US respectively at the same tournament. Also bear in mind that a 17 year old raised in naij, especially the ones from poor backgrounds, won't develop as fast as a 17-year born in the UK and US.

Ike Ugbo
https://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/players/23/2015/324x324/250076246.jpg


Matt Olosunde (the guy on the right)
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/07/22/20/2AC277A100000578-3171184-image-m-25_1437591726535.jpg

lastpage:
I mentioned some of the reasons it is "not functioning properly" as it should ....but it will take a whole page to do justice to the reasons, one after another. We both know such reasons and we both have mentioned some of them - Corruption, Nepotism, bad leadership, e.t.c

Is such arraingement feasible?
It is feasible...very feasible, if we all approach issues with 'Honesty of purpose'!
if some people ar eno more interested in their own selfish interest at the detriment of the whole country
if some are still not too embittered and lurking in the shadows, for their "pound of flesh"!
If some are not so consumed with "hatred" for their fellow Nigerians, that whatever we say, is not even examined but condemned from the onset
It is possible, if we all approach issues with the mindset of "making it better".... than destroying it !
It is possible if GREED is not the primary motivating factor of some.

Ha! I see you have stopped talking about clash of interests, which is the primary reason why Nigeria is an utter failure. And the inability of this cancer to plague the Western Region, in the first republic, as the reason why the region excelled. I'd add that the other regions were also growing, albeit not on the same level as the Western region. However, everything came to a halt, with the arrival of the unitary system - and the more they centralise everything, the further down the abyss path for the country. The primary reason why Nigeria is a failed state.

Sir, the truth is that: corruption, nepotism, bad leadership et al are symptoms of the structure of the country and having a big government where everything is centralised. Take nepotism for example - it's intertwined with competitive environments and human nature cos we're all subconsciously partial to those we see as family, no matter how folks may try to live in denial. So how would you be able to rid the polity off nepotism, in such a competitive country like Nigeria, where the three headed-monsters (Yoruba, Igbo, and Hausa/Fulani) are trying to protect their respective interests? And if curbing nepotism is a pipe-dream, how would you be able to solve the problem of bad leadership and corruption which are offspring of nepotism?

Furthermore, when trying to ascertain if something is either feasible or not, it's always good to do a proper feasibility study. And once you take time out to do a proper feasibility of study about Nigeria and human behavioural patterns vis-a-vis countries that're functioning in other climes. You'd see that it'll be easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, than for Nigeria to function properly. Honesty of purpose is very difficult there are interests to be protected within a structure. For example: we all saw how Buhari got elected with a pledge of equity/equality and honesty of purpose. However, what did he do when he got there? - he and his Northern cabal made sure the executive, legislative, and judiciary are in control of the North. That's how you checkmate folks and secure ya interests. Regional government and true federalism out of the window, with just one move - and the Northern interest was protected by that move.

I asked a Question which l want you to respond to:

Will the Ibos agree to secede with just their five "core Ibo states" and leave the Oil-rich South-South out of the equation?

This question is at the core of everyonenot taking them seriously! Even a country like Britain is laughing at their effrontery... in 2015!

You know, when Scotland wanted to do a "peaceful secession", Britain made it very clear to them "what and what" they can not go along with, including membership of the E.U and desisting from using the British Pounds!
When they saw the "real picture", l guess no one needed to persuade them to stay!

But if the Scots were ibos, they would insist on eating their cake....and having it. Such is their nature.

BTW: You did not get lost in semantics, I know you are not just well educated, you are highly intelligent so l am not fooled by that!
You know we were saying two different things!

In summary, l think these Ibos, if they are honest, peaceful, purged of their arrogance, bitterness, hatred, tribalism and other vices, can be accommodated in a "more encouraging manner" which addresses their grievances, most of which by the way, are self-inflicted, such that they get a fairer share of the polity without a "greed-induced" break-up of the nation.
The alternative is for them to agree to form their "Bafraud" based on their "five Ibo states" ONLY.

Thanks for your response.

Lastpage!

I honestly can't answer Biafran questions for Igbos - they'll have to answer that.

As for Scotland, most people think the Scots just woke up one day and started asking for independence. That wasn't the case. And I'd wager that the game all long was for more autonomy for Scotland, especially full fiscal autonomy. They never got it, but they'd get more autonomy and I'm sure they'll still get it with time. It wasn't the "threat" that made them stay.

The story of Scotland didn't just start with the referendum - it started during the Thatcher era. They've just been playing a long and waiting game. The game started with Tony Blair and New Labour. Though Blair is English, he was raised in Scotland by Scottish foster parents. When Tony Blair became the PM in 1997, he surrounded himself with a lot of Scots and that was when the Scottish fight started. Within two years of Tony Blair's government, they were able to get their own Parliament and more autonomy. And that was what paved the way for SNP and the holy grail for the fight for independence. if the fight for Scottish independence had been UK parliament (a parliament controlled by the English) thing and not Scottish parliament's - they wouldn't have granted them the chance to have a referendum. So I don't think there's any correlation between Scotland and whatever is going on in Nigeria, to be honest. The UK is a confederation - Nigeria isn't.

sukkot:
I may just be an igbo pikey, you just never know about these things, do ya ? lmaoooo. yup i was born in london, moved to naija for a bit, back to london, then to chicago and then to manny. its a crazy life bro but smebodys gotta live it lol. brah, i got my 2 dragon stout ready for that u 17 finals game today with mali. its finna be on. thats definitely something to look forward to today. i tried staying up for some nba games last night but crashed in bed tired after drinking just one dragon stout and doing numerous chores. yeah i give up on that NBA watching dream for now lol. its not a feasible dream

Lmao.

Only pikeys move everywhere in caravans. And since you're not a rag-headed cow-jockeying Northerner - the only other Nigerians that stay on the move are Igbotic folks.

I like that. London Town, the belly of the beast, is the epicenter of great black minds. The jungle where higher black minds are born. If you can make it in London Town, you'll make it anywhere in the world, hence the doozies stay dominating Hollywood. We out here!!

Brev, I ain't got time for the over-aged uncles at their peak playing for Nigeria, against schoolboys. These folks are serial cheaters and I don't support cheating. It's all good when they win, however, how many of them will make it to the next level? Just take a look at how the Super Eagles suck these days, yet the country has won that cup twice in the last 10 years. Where are all these players? But I'd like to see the Malian team cos it seems the country is blessed with great young talents. There's a next Malian kid who made the top-50 youngest great footballers on the planet.

lastpage:
Oga Shymex, Please read my post again!

I never said "it cant" function properly!
I said "It is not" functioning properly as it should
Both dont connote the same thing, l am sure you are aware because l know you are a very brilliant person.

...and again, l gave a "broad and general definition" of a country because l took your question at "face value".
It has nothing to do with Awolowo (his words l think were "geographical expression".... that is not what l said.

Perhaps, I got lost in semantics - so I take that back. However, if you believe "it's not functioning properly as it should" cos of corruption, malpractices, divergent interests (I added this from what you posited in this rebuttal about Yorubas being "to develop at our own pace.....without being bogged down by those who don't want to "develop" or had other things on their mind or as their priority" etc...why do you think these problems exist? Take for example, the case of divergent interests, which is the primary reason why Nigeria isn't functioning. Is it ever going to be possible to align these interests due to how different the people are culturally, traditionally, and sociologically?

Once you examine this critically, you'd see that, saying ""it's not functioning properly as it should" while giving excuses, without examining the primary reason why it isn't - is more of a message of hope than a pragmatic approach. The reality is that the country will never be able to function properly cos when interests don't align, it's always impossible to get things done. That's the story of Nigeria.

Now, to the main substance of your post:

Again, l answer your questions directly:
*Yorubas attained their greatest during the ear of "Regional Govt" when Awolowo as Premier of the Western region, developed the West and we were the envy of other regions because we excelled over and above others in all areas (my Ibo brothers will tell you that we excelled in material resources because we stole their money they left behind when they try to secede or that we excelled academically because we stopped them from getting good education or we got our resources because they developed Lagos due to its being a Federal capital! ).

The second part of your question: Yorubas were able to achieve this feat because we were able to develop at our own pace.....without being bogged down by those who dont want to "develop" or had other things on their mind or as their priority.

Now, take note: We did all these even as a part of the nation Nigeria... not because we secede or revolted against the Federal govt!

I will agree this much, "True Fiscal federalism" is the solution to Nigeria's problem .... not breaking into parts through secession, as the Ibos would want it.

Let me draw your attention to the fact that as it is today, it will be "an act of excessive greed" for the Ibos to chose to secede..... taking the South-South with them.
They could ask for "Regionalism" where like in the early 60's, each region will develop at its own pace.
If crude Oil is not the main-stay of Nigeria's economy, with Nigeria investing a lot of resources to get it to the point it is TODAY, then maybe this agitation for secession would be worth considering.

If the Ibos are not greedy and truly feel secession is what they want, ask them if they are ready to do it with their "five core Ibo states" ...without drawing the South_South Minorities into it.
In that way, Nigeria's "dependent resources" wont be affected ... and the South -South people wont be dragged into a Biafra most of them dont want to be a part of. This is REALITY!

But l tell you, if you remove those "oil rich' states from their agitation, you will find out that their agitation will simply die "a natural death"!
How on earth can five states say they want to take what belongs to the whole country and arrogate it to themselves.... all in the name of self determination?
I dont even want to go into the merits and demerits of this secession.

Lastpage!

Yes, the Yorubas were able to progress/develop exceedingly in the first republic and were on their way to destroying the stigma about black Africa and governance - before the progress was truncated by the coup and everything that happened subsequently. You'd agree with me (like you alluded to in ya post) that the only reason why this happened is cos they were able to pursue their own interests and execute effectively, within a structure that allowed that - without much interference from the rest. I'd even say the first republic was more of a pseudo-confederation (less autonomy) than regional government, based on the structure the UK left behind cos the regions did have some form of autonomy and were able to do a lot of things - without the centre.

However, is such an arrangement feasible in today's Nigeria, where so much powers have been arrogated to a section of the country, without clamouring for secession? Do you think those who enjoy undue advantage over the rest of the country would give it up on a platter, without a fight?

lastpage:
Nigeria is a country ... by geographical definition. It is recognised as a country, by the United Nations and it is soveriegn.

can it ("Is it" is quite the correct way to put it) functioning "properly" like a country?
The answer to that is "No".

It has challenges, huge ones for that matter! from corruption to mal-administration, e.t.c.

NB: I have deliberately avoided mentioning that Nnamdi kanu and the many cogent questions l raised earlier... so that we can get a handle on this discussion because like l said, "timing is of essence", in any struggle.

NEXT..?

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Thanks, Sir.

You asserted that "Nigeria is a country ... by geographical definition" a la Awolowo cos it's recognised by the UN - fair enough. However, you also agreed that it can't function properly as a country. And that's an oxymoron and it shows that the existence of Nigeria as a country contradicts what a proper country should be. So, if that's the case, what's the point of keep such a country together - to the detriment of the millions of folks living within the borders of that geographical location? The folks whose rights to quality standard of living, good life, quality education etc.. are being denied by the continuous existence of a "geographical definition" that can't and will never function properly, like a normal country should? Why should we continue to deny them these rights just to keep the "geographical definition" alive, and not cater to their divine rights?

Also, I know you're Yoruba and a good student of Nigerian history. So, I'll ask you this questions: since Nigeria became a country, during what period did the Yorubas attain greatness and were on the path, to change the stigma associated with black Africa, when it comes to governance? And why were the Yorubas able to achieve this feat?

vanbonattel:
Am afraid for his life, that was how Awolowo started before he ended up drinking a healthy dose of poison.

STFU! What's the correlation between Awolowo and this thread?

Fvck off my mentions, prick.

vanbonattel:
You are wasting your time debating with that full. His brain is smaller that a peanut.

He's not a fool - he's an intelligent uncle. I'm sure trying to get his perspective.

And I believe he'll respond with something intelligent - unlike the other myopic girl that keeps spamming "what's wrong with the black mind" everywhere. Like the "black mind" is to blame for dumping all kinds of strange bedfellows into one big cesspit.

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These are a very cogent questions .....for "discerning minds"!

*Why did IPOB not raise this kind of "hell", when they have a better chance of achieving results, (under Jonathan)?
*Why did Nnamdi kanu not "air" his Radio Biafra treasonous statements, so loudly, under GEJ, when he would probably recieve a "warm reception"?

*Why did the Ibos not show this kind of 'anger' at their Chairmen and Governors, who "collect and loot" their share of the National cake? Yet they waste their energy on Fashola, Governor of Lagos!

*WHY NOW? When a Northerner is the President... and a Westerner is the Vice President?

A lot of people are asking these same questions!


[b]A "school of thought" examines these issues critically and came to the conclusion that"

"Ibo agitations are primarily driven by hatred (of the Yorubas), rabid Anger (at the Hausas), "sense of".. and a "plot for" vengeance (towards the Yorubas), Hypocrisy (towards and within their own tribesmen), mischief (at the whole polity, to cause mayhem) and a sense of weakness/failure (for under-achieving, within the Nigerian political spectrum).

Thus, such agitations are not only bound to fail as they are based on "non-altruistic and emotional premise", such agitations are viewed with suspicion, by everyone else and therefore not taken seriously.

This is a honest assessment, from someone on "the other side" of the divide but then, l wont expect any Ibo person to agree with it because that would be an admission of failure...something which "Ego and Self-pride cum self-delusion", will not permit, .....qualities which the Ibo persona has in very high dosage[/b].

My Take.

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Sir, let's take Kanu, the timing of the agitation, and the mentality/emotions of the average Igbo out of the equation. Let's look at Nigeria with a clear mind - do you actually believe Nigeria is a country and it can function properly like a country? You answer would be the premise for my next post.

Err...sometimes, it isn't always about the messenger and timing of an event. It's about grabbing an opportunity whenever it presents itself - hence folks will always tell you to be ever ready cos you never know when the opportunity will come.

pazienza:
Too many ignorance induced verbose essay by the usual anti Biafran elements on this thread.

And the funny Thing is that all the propaganda they are all busy spewing here hPerhaps the influence was too weak to hold waters unlike the mass acculturation successfully carried out in Ukwuani and Ika. ad all been debunked time and again by Biafrans.

I am already bored of debunking these lies everyday.

The only thing that matters right now, is that in the end, Biafra will come.

It's set on stone, I would advise bitter groups to stop wasting their strength on Biafra and focus more on their own groups survival in the emerging Arewa-Oduanistan.

God bless Biafra!

Lol.

Get Yoruba out of ya "nistan" tripe - we don't have anything in common with those jihadists. They'll have to form their own country with cows and deal with their backwardness, with rags all over their heads.

However, I do agree with ya post. A lot of these folks are mostly illiterates and they lack the basic knowledge of governance and nation building. Blame the governors and administrators at the local levels all you can - but the reason why these folks aren't functioning is basically cos of how the country is structured and the curse that comes with a fictitious country. The FG controls everything and the states are just mere appendages. So how will they function properly in a backward arrangement like that?

Then you have folks alluding to the oil money. The oil money isn't even enough to run a country as big as that - oil is more or less a curse. Then you have all types of divergent interests sabotaging everything. The country is a big mess. I'd rather nuke it, if it were possible, to be honest.