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9jacrip:
Bro, I get your point but permit me to disagree a little.

Firstly, Yoruba Parapo does not fall in the same bracket as gang or the brotherhood in the street sense of it. Yoruba Parapo morphed out of many centuries long social construct - identity that goes very deep.

Crip didn't start directly from a fall out of BPP according to my understanding of Tookie, Colton and Monster Kody. My inference is that it started out of the widespread of different gangs in schools and neighbourhoods/projects which Tookie sought to protect himself from because he hated gangs - the samefor Raymond. BPP was not a 'gang' we both know it was a socio-political movement and its implosion did not give birth to crib/p a(n) anti/social group depening on one's perspective.

I say the above because the crip/b in its formative years didn't seek to oppose gangs from a positive perspective but rather use of violence not only to oppose but to conquer and acquire followership - which in turn gave birth to gun culture.

Let me get a bit personal too. During my undergraduate days, I joined one of the school fraternities because the ideology or say philosophy that ran its engine was anti-violence, fashion, booze/parties, girls and emphasis on academics (everything that I was about from the onset).

All which I saw in its members I grew up around - I didn't know there was or could be more. I signed up and realized everyone was not on the same path of that philosophy; some for it and lived it while some were exact opposite and took it way farther.

My point from all of this is, a brotherhood formed out of no philosophy or weak one at that is not worth it and should be shut down. Yoruba Parapo in the 19th C, 20th C (Egbe Omo Oduduwa) and now ran/run on a philosophy, a strong one to unify Yoruba which doesn't culminate in opposing other people but focus on Yoruba first.

Crib/ps lacked a philosophy, reason for its leaders lack of control, splinter groups and eventually crip on crip war. Its only reason for existence was to kill bloods or opposing people, rob, use/sell drugs and turf control. If anything existed on foundations such as this and battle over colour that has existed forever, it will have problems.

This is the exact problem with Nigerian Fraternities. Their concern is colour, lingo, supremacy & turf - the recruiters and members do not join because the ideology/philosophy suits them or they naturally lived by it but because they appreciate a colour or supremacy - things that are bound to create chaos.

Greek Frats are exposed to drugs, violence & money but they have not degenerated into gangs, why? Because there are philosophies that drive the groups and the members lived by even before signing up.

I don't really want to get into naij fraternities cos that's something I'm not that conversant with and I don't know much about. However, with Greek fraternities...you can't really compare the context of their exposure to drugs - to people on the streets in poverty. While members of Greek fraternities are social users of drugs, folks on the streets see drugs as a very lucrative business.Users vs. Dealers. And when it comes to business, territories are drawn to protect business interest and flow of money. Evidently, when money and guns get involved, it will inevitably turn to violence.

That said, I'm not saying you should join a cripset - I was just talking about the essence of it and the brotherhood, before it went south. I've been trying to find the PDF version of Tookie Williams' book on the internet, but I can't find it. However, I'll post an excerpt from what's in the book from his wiki page.

Tookie Williams in his own words:

"We started out—at least my intent was to, in a sense, address all of the so-called neighboring gangs in the area and to put, in a sense—I thought 'I can cleanse the neighborhood of all these, you know, marauding gangs.' But I was totally wrong. And eventually, we morphed into the monster we were addressing."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Williams

And Raymond Washington:

Washington himself has stated that he founded the Crips not with the intention of eliminating other gangs, but to create a force powerful enough to protect local black people from racism, corruption and brutality at the hands of the police.

Then you can also read excerpts from this link:

The CRIPs were not always the gang-bangers they are known to be. The CRIPs were formed in 1969. Raymond Washington, a high school student at the time founded the organization in response to the increasing level of police harassment of the Black community.

CRIPs stood for Community Resources for Independent People. It was styled on the Black Panther Party which was formed 3 years earlier, by Huey P. Newton and Bobby Seale, further down the west coast in Oakland.

There were many organizations springing up around the same time all over the country with the same ideas of protecting and serving the community.

Like so many of these organizations, their commitment to these basic values was not given the opportunity to run its course.
Individuals, marked out by police as leaders, were targeted and arrested on various bogus charges then convicted on the flimsiest of evidence.
Many organizations were pitted against each other through the work of informants and undercover FBI agents who would provoke confrontations as well as provide information as to the whereabouts and movements of individuals. Others were just plain murdered by the police.
The ferocity with which police departments went after the Black community, particularly young Black men, is shown by the fact that by 1971, 2 million Blacks were being arrested each year. The fear of the Black community producing any more Huey P. Newtons or Malcolm Xs, of the development of a strong revolutionary movement were the main reasons behind such police action and J. Edgar Hoover’s COINTELPRO (Counter Intelligence Program).
http://www.socialistalternative.org/panther-black-rebellion/los-angeles-gangs-bloods-crips/

9jacrip:
Lol, wasn't Obanta rumoured to have been from Ife?

On a serious note, Macof seems to have researched a more plausible Ijebu history, have you read his new angle?

I need to get details of it so I can travel home to verify.

Macof abeg, come and share knowledge fam.

Obanta might have passed through Ife but he has no connection whatsoever with Oduduwa.

Ooni is Oduduwa's offspring - Obanta's offspring don't get down like that. We keep it trill.

Macof's version of history is always upside down, not interested in what macof has to say.

Ijebu, omo Obanta. Yoruba, omo Oduduwa.

Urine:
Well that side show is impressive. Software Development is quite lucrative but like everything in naija, it depends on the team you're rolling with. If you have a few contacts here and there, it's fair to say you will good at the end of the day.

I'm a PHP developer (Laravel) 'garnished' with a AngularJs on the front cos these days being a "full stack developer" seems to be the thing. Planning, on paper looks like the simplest process but it's not always easy, but the process shapes up when you adopt agile methods.

Nice. It seems the Indians haven't over-saturated the market like it's out here. I think with how everything has gone super-WWW these days and with apps, if I were into software development, I won't even work for anyone. I'd just set up a tech company with a few friends in the field and start grafting.

Nigeria is still a virgin market and a lot of things should be able to bamboozle folks into paying a lot of money. My friend and I were discussing about an app with some chic who's one of this rich naij men's kids last year and she had a proposal to build an app for some folks. Brev, you need to see the ridiculous money she was trying to charge them for a simple app you can easily build with a freeware.

Great to see someone on here who isn't all about python cos it seems everyone is a python junkie on this forum.

Lol.

The expiry date for these heaux has been shifted from 30 to 25, no? Lol

You lot are crazy. You will make a lot of these expired biitches fasting, praying, and begging God for husbands with pastor offering to commit suicide lol.

Move it to 27, biitches need love.

marylandcakes:
Sorry to disappoint you both but prince Charles next in line for the throne is currently married to a divorcee. Camilla.

Lol.

Go put Prince Charles on the throne then. Even Prince Charles knows he'll never become king. Prince William is the next King.

dapsonlou:
Charles Marry Camilla

But Camilla isn't a sket, she's from an aristocratic family as well and they both dated before she married her first husband.

Regardless, Prince Charles will never become a King, that's most likely why they allowed him to marry his childhood sweetheart. I believe he already told them he'll abdicate it, if and when the Queen dies - for Prince Williams.

Regardless, no one likes Camilla in the UK. Or why do you think she's hiding and never comfortable in public? She gets slagged off all the time.

mysticwarrior:
In 1936 king Edward V111 of England was made to abdicate the throne because he married a woman who has been twice divorced "kings don't Eat left over food" Is this how the Ooni demonstrates his superiority over his subjects by getting married to a woman who is still married? How can she be of good example and and a role model to the juvinile females of her husband's domain?

Thanks for educating the clowns supporting this show of shame. This is why I have the utmost respect for European monarchies and royal families. If this were to happen in the UK, the whole country would have gone nuts. You just can't mess with tradition and putting questionable characters as role models is a no no.

These clowns are the reason why Africa is so backward - they just don't know how to act and maintain institutions. The kingship crap in Yorubaland needs to be scrapped - the institution is dead.

t2luv1:
Why you have dis my boy Flav like That

Lol.

Flavor Flav is my nyggah and I'm all about my business like Flavor Flav's clock. But you can't deny the fact that he is always cooning, while looking like a clown. And he is also notorious for turning who.res into celebrities. Deelishis and her humongous batty is one of them lol.

Ooni has a lot in common with Flav lol.

Urine:
Really? You always write like a man that's deep in the arts. Software Development!

Lmao @ arts. That's just a side show and something I tend to talk about cos it's part of everyday life. And it defines relations with other people, as a tool for generic conversations.

Is Software Development lucrative in naij? And what programming languages are you comfortable with?

That said, software development is fun, especially the requirement and design/UML phases cos you can always transfer both to everyday life and, also use the expertise for project management. The connection between computing and learning how to plan adequately, before execution.

9jacrip:
Lol I see we are branching out now.

Lool.

Just tryna chill with Obanta for now and let Oduduwa have fun.

9jacrip:
Bruh, I don't see brotherhood in a group that kills people over colour - of shoes, baseball hats and trivial things generally.

Have you read the works by Monster Kody, Colton Simpson and Tookie? The one by Monster Kody had me going like wtf non-stop - sex, drugs of all types at like 11?

The crip, blood whatever is menta sickness for folks who subscribe to it.

Crip morphed from Cribs as stated by Tookie. The definition you gave up there was an attempt by the CCO & BN to re-invent crips and give it a positive outlook but it failed.

Everything is bad about cripping, I would rather join Ogboni than such.

Err, I'm going to get a bit personal here and scratch a bit of inconspicuous life, just to get a message across to you. I'm not saying you should join a cripset cos crips have become bastards of a party with gang activities synonymous with the ills of black self-destruction. I was just trying to show you the brotherhood in the essence of "cripping" before everything went south.

Funny enough, I read Tookie Williams and Monster Kody's books when I was in a dark place. That was also when I read the proper autobiography of Muhammad Ali, Huey P. Newton, and the untold story of the legend of Steve Biko, the unsung hero of the struggle against apartheid in South Africa. That was the period when my life started changing a bit. Have you seen Sloan Bone's "Bastards of the Party"? Sloan Bone is an OG blood and he was the Eve's love interest in her tune "Gangsta Lovin'" with Alicia Keys. He was also in "Training Day" with Denzel Washington.

Crips started as a result of the fall out the Black Panther Party had with the US government, especially the FBI, under the racist monster, J. Edgar Hoover. Interestingly, that's the same guy the FBI headquarters in DC's named after. After BPP almost became extinct, those in LA started Crips as something similar to protect their neighbourhood. However, everything changed when drugs, guns, and money got involved. You know poverty is with black folks and how things always change when money get involved. If the BPP hadn't be destroyed, or if those who started Crips had been more matured - the whole thing wouldn't have gone south the way it did. Regardless, the essence of it was about brotherhood and looking out for one another...that was the picture I was trying to paint.

It's just basically similar to how gangs started in my neck of the woods. We never really used to have black gangs - just white gangs that have been there since like forever. But when the yardies came, things started changing. Then the phase where Caribbeans used to beat up Africans started and Africans started forming groups to defend themselves in brotherhood. Subsequently, it moved from that to brotherhood from estate to estate. However, when drugs, guns, and money got involved - it became postcode vs. postcode. And that was when the never ending cycle of violence/killings started. Once you take the latter bit out, you'll understand the brotherhood and the need to protect one another.

The point I'm trying to make is that: there's nothing bad in brotherhood, when it's about coming together to achieve a certain goal against oppression...similar to how you've got "Yoruba Parapo". However, when unnecessary violence gets involved with no focus, then it becomes problematic.

Urine:
ROFLMFAO! Your last sentence makes a lot of sense.

Lol. I was just messing about with my doozy, CSTR2.

So you're a computing junkie, no? I'm also an IT junkie, though I seldom discuss it on here, ditto sports and business.

What aspect of computing are you into?

GothamLuke:
Classy Oba and wife

Did you say "classy"? You lot just like bastardising English words. The guy is much more classless than Flavor Flav with big clock on his neck.

Slut walk in Ife.

CSTR2:
These are the kind of women that children of perdition get married to. People that God himself have given up on.
God will not allow his own children with a future to come in contact with whorress like these.

Lmao.

About "God" and "Future"...Russell Wilson who screams "God" and "Jesus" everywhere just got engaged to Future's baby mama, Ciara. And I'm sure Ciara has been around the block like a hood moped, and she has a baby for a guy who's a weed head. But God didn't stop his son, Russell Wilson, from wifeying up Future's leftover.

So be careful when use "God" and "Future" in the same sentence cos you might end up with a next man's leftover like Russell Wilson.

Regardless, we're all God's children and choice/preference has nothing to do with God. Ya pastor lied to you.

9jacrip:
Abeg o! Crip keh? I really wish I could have the handle changed, I made it up when I used to crip walk a lot now I regret having to use this handle .

Lol.

There's nothing bad in cripping - it represents brotherhood, though it has been bastardised with gang activities.

This is the real meaning of CRIP: "Common Revolution in Progress". And crip-walk is one of the best dances ever (maybe Harlem shake can compete with it) and it's part of the hiphop culture. So there's nothing to regret there.

9jacrip:
Na bro, I didn't take it to heart. I just thought your comment was very funny - I was out and I laughed really hard when I saw it.

No one bows down to the Ooni's wife. At least where I am from we do not bow down to the Ooni, we only touch the ground with the knees so no bowing to the 'sket' for me

Our king, let us enjoy him.

Lool.

That's what's up.

Our king? I hate to say this, that nyggah ain't my king - I think I'm gonna be Ijebu only till further notice.

3rdlegxxx:
Crazy as it sounds, you are right, good girls forming good but wanting to explore and play with the bad guys... .. bad girls know the deal and they stay slutty and fun so the boyfriends of the good girls keep running to them for some wild time, they still get married, they still have kids, they make bad role models and their hustle aren't legit but they still remain the life of the party altho moderation is key...

Loool.

But really and truly, do "good girls" even exist? I believe the degree of "slutness" just varies from chic to chic. While some might be overt, others are moderate and covert, based on how pretentious they're. Then you've got cases where lack of opportunities make certain chic "good" and when the opportunities come, they always turn to hookers faster than Usain Bolt. In my lifetime, I've seen "good girls" with bfs and husbands get fvcked around by just anyone. It's basically just about turning them out.

Women are just naturally promiscuous but the consciousness today just kind of makes it easier for the overt ones to win cos men now understand that "good girls" are grossly overrated cos they're all the same - birds of a feather. It might even be a safer option to get with the "bad ones" cos you know what to expect, than waste ya time on a "good one" that'll end up being ya worst nightmare. Hence, personally, I'll always prefer an open relationship cos I can't trust women. But the mileage must never be too high.

Regardless, no matter how slutty a chic is, there has to be a certain level of class. The ones on this thread have no class...swinging saggy ti.ts everywhere with no bras and taking pictures with smiles on their faces - is a no no. I've never heard of a "bra-less party" in my life.

3rdlegxxx:
The hustle is real my nigga, i thought boys were not smiling as it is now, these girls have taken over, they aren't smilling at all, the have the most followers, most retweets, most followeres on instagram too, o think it's high time we guys look past the skets part of them, it's all for the hustle, they may still make great griendfriends and wives tho, just saying tho and trying really hard to think outside the box..

That's why I'm in love with a stripper.

But regardless, the mileage mustn't be too high.

Can't trust these chics cos good girls always turn bad and the bad ones are always riders.

Kim Kardashian for example will ride for Kanye till the wheels fall off and I think she's richer than him now.

4nobody4every1:

Lool.

Not making fun of 9jacrip and Ife, just trying to paint a picture, since that's the hot gist.

9jacrip is my cripping cuzzz...CaRip and OoWoo with the Cs up. Stay cripping, my Ife Hoover Crip nyggah.

West west y'all.

Add these two to ya list:

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