₦airaland Forum

fstranger1:
And after he is done with his papers, he is going to dump you for the next Nigerian inline


in the end, you gonna end up having a lot of BFs. But on the other side, you gonna be rich from suc-king different sizes of Naija cocks. The only downside is that you gonna have a lot of bast-ards to take care of by yourself.


PS:Please dont bother replying me in ebonics. I am off to rikers to teach your brother how to read and write properly. yeah, with love from Naija!

Ouch!!

Pornodude, what I noticed is that in the last months Nairaland romance section has "shifted" and some people who were quiet are now more vocal and more active. There is also the formation of "friendships/bonds" where they support their opinions (naturally). But also there has been a degeneration in the romance section where it all ends up in insults with 2 factions hurling insults at each other.

Is there some major conspiracy as you have mentioned ?. . . . I dont think so, but like everything in life, there is always a shift. In the last 3 years on Nairaland, I have seen the same situation with different people coming and going but what stays constant are:

1. Group of friends A
2. Group of friends B
3. Degeneration of threads to insults due to group A and B doing their thing
4. Those who read, comment and form no bonds
5. Those who just read and dont comment.

Like all things in life, you have the "pillars" who hold up the establishment and the "caterpillars". . . . . . who crawl in and crawl out. The pillars just keep changing over time.

Oga phatwizz let it go abeg. . . . . we know what happened . . . . but let the lady have her dignity abeg haba!

Back to the main topic, I personally dont do online relationships. I can start a relationship, build it and then move onto a long distance relationship which has an online element to it . . . . . but not the other way round.

deniyor:
Online relationships usually have a nice foundation. One based on mutualism and understanding. Cos of the online nature of it, people find it easy to quit at the onset if they feel it is not a match. This is provided one is not settling for any body you see online.
For the relationship to be sustainable, it should move from online to physical. There will be a bit of understanding and rapport built up from the online version of the relationship. THe physical part will be a true test of how you can interact in real life.
Summary: For most online relationship to survive in the long run, there has to progress to some form of physical relationship. Else you are still two strangers trying to know each other.

Thanks Deniyor. . . . . . this is exaclty what i think too.

MOBO444:
@Silentc,it is Black brothers like you that re responsible for the gross degradation in our society,in Nigeria today out of every 10 ladies between the age 18 to 35,you find out that 6 are into full time prostitution and maybe 8 of the 10 have slept with men for one favour or the other.

So a girl sleeps with a man for favours and she is classed as cheap (fair point) ? What of the man's responsibility? What do you call the man? Why don't you open posts about these kind of men?

Mobo, so you care for these girls since me and my type are the cause of gross degradation in our society?

I think your posts will make more sense when I take them as a joke rather than something serious that merits deeper thoughts.

Mobo, this was funny initially as I thought you were being deliberately silly and creating a nairaland personality. Now it is boring.

If you consistently have had bad experiences with black women, then you need to check yourself. I have not dated or been with any black woman who fits your description of them.

There are good women and good men. . . . . . there are bad women and bad men. What is this constant black women bashing about? As far as I am aware, our mothers, sisters, aunts etc are all black women and they aren't all cheap.

debosky:
Let's not get tied up with names/titles - what Tensor is[i] trying[/i] to say is correct. There is a limitation/cap on the number of sponsored work permits that can be obtained (i.e. Tier 2) but there isn't yet such a cap or scrappage of Tier 1 post-study. It has been proposed that this will happen, but till a decision is taken it remains a proposal.

Debosky, from past experience almost all proposals/consultation the UKBA has put out has always been implemented. As such it is wise to assume this one will go forward (i.e Closing Tier 1 PSW route and closing Tier 1 general category).

I agree 100% with you that it is just a proposal, but past experiences has shown that immigration related proposals go ahead. They might be challenged if they are unfair (i.e retrospective laws, human rights ground etc), but I don't think that applies here.

Mrs Eve, these male friends of yours might not be comfortable with their own women having male visitors when they are away, but they are happy to visit you in your marital home when your husband is away.

Men are naturally territorial. Some men are jealous, some possessive. But generally, men are territorial and dont want other men encroaching on their zone.

There is nothing wrong in being friends with your ex, but one has to be careful to take their partners feelings into account.

Mrs Eve, the guy was wrong to say that to the girl. It is disrespectful to his partner, the girl and you guys in front of him.

I would have spoken to his partner directly and not speak to him about it (asking him to apologize) as he probably wouldnt understand what he has done wrong anyway.

While i agree with your last post above, I still believe that we need to promote Nigerian businesses and make sure foreign companies do not dominate the market.

There needs to be a balance between protectionism (in certain industries) and free trade (in others) in my opinion.

So what is your own view of how China got to where it is now based on your last post?

I compare them because they both have something valuable as a country. As you said, China is a hotbed of technological geniuses. Nigeria is a growing economy that is very very profitable for businesses.

Buzugee, Debosky is not talking about individual foreign talent. He is referring to businesses that set up shop in Nigeria owned by foreign nationals and dominate the local economy.

Take China for example, you cannot go and set up a national company there without some control of the business from the Chinese government that makes sure the business favour's the local chinese population.

Debosky has a very valid point and if you dont agree, fair enough.

Well prince, let me put it this way since i am "in a dream".

I come across Nigerians who do well and those who dont in the UK. There isnt a bias to any direction.

They say birds of the same feather flock together. Maybe you need to review the people you hang out with or the areas you move around. If you dont know anyone in the UK who is doing well, then please you need to review your situation as you are moving with the wrong crowd.

My post highlighted 2 sides of a situation and you choose to only focus on a single line? It means you have some personal issues you are battling with. Maybe you feel inferior and oppressed?

Maybe you arent a Nigerian at home who is doing well. I have friends who live in Nigeria and have a wonderful lifestyle and can afford all luxuries people who live in the UK can afford or have access to. These guys dont have a complex like you seem to have.

This thread is full of stereotypes!

1. People who live and work abroad are suffering and doing menial jobs
2. People in Nigeria arent doing great live in poor conditions

Both stereotypes arent true.

Many Nigerians abroad are not living poor or doing menial jobs to survive. Many are professionals who are at the top of their game (financially and career wise).

Also many Nigerians who live in Nigeria are living an amazing life and advancing their careers or starting up innovative businesses. They live comfortable lives and enjoy all the luxuries life has to offer.

Please let us stop perpetuating stereotypes of the 2 scenarios. No one is better than the other. Just different people making positive progress in their lives in different parts of the world.

If the OP wants to relocate home, he should understand the market back home and assess how much his peers and what the market will pay in Nigeria.

Debosky, while your link to migrationwatch is valid, you have to consider the fact that the source is not impartial.

Migrationwatch has the sole purpose of making a case against migration to the UK, so whatever fact the put together will come to that conclusion.

Pro migration school of thoughts will come to a conclusion that suits them also.

When the Caribbean immigrants came to the UK in the mid 1950's there was a lot of talk about the UK being filled up and not being able to take any more immigrant. Enoch Powell's "rivers of blood" speech (in 1968) is of the same tone as today's political speeches aiming at reducing non EU immigration (almost 42 yrs later).

I am not saying the UK doesnt have a right to reduce and manage it's migration. It does, but it should be honest in the arguments being made. It is all about economics and at the moment, non EU immigration is not needed and EU immigration cannot be affected due to EU laws.

In a few years time, when most students choose Canada as their destination, the country will change its laws just as the UK is doing.

Farxiya:
Are you kidding me You think Iman represents Somalis She's not even respected in our community. She married a freaking non muslim white guy and takes off her clothes for a camera. Why in the hell would someone like that represent Somalis

Gosh! This just shows you a lot about yourself. So marrying a non muslim is a sin? Funny you live in the US. Why dont you go and live in Somalia and live as a muslim woman? You want the benefit of the western world but run your mouth about the western lifestyle or people?

I must say you are naive. I personally know a Somalian girl (who i spent a lot of time in the bedroom with) and I can 100% say she has hair extensions (pulled her hair while hitting it from behind. Sorry if i am sounding crude, but Farxiya's comments are very immature).

Let me guess, this girl doesnt represent Somalians too?

I feel insulted by this scammer/poster. Comon!

Use some intelligence in your scams. Canadian residence in 3 months? Even if you are Steven Harpers brother, that isnt going to happen is it?

Mr poster, you need to up your game or you will get real hungry in your bid to scam innocent people out of their money.

Na was for 190 oh! Almost every post I read he is flirting with women and then he gets pissed off when Omolola is getting some attention? Even in this thread he was flirting with SAGoddess!!!

190 if you take her seriously, you gotta show it on the forum and stop flirting.

She is giving you a long rope. In the words of R Kelly "When a woman's fed up, It aint nothing you can do about it".

Cue Debosky.

Kobojunkie:
I said it . . . . some imbecil_e will come in to twist what is being said on it's head!

Funny you say that as that was the exact feeling I get whenever I read your response to posts (your style of quoting people's posts, highlighting a few lines/sentences and making your argument below the quoted post).

I personally feel you do the same (twist what is being said on it's head), but hey each to his own. I wouldn't call you an imbecil_e for doing that would I?

It is interesting that the first line written by the poster states they are both single?

While I agree that a woman shouldnt slave for a man, i dont see why washing his clothes is an issue. The fact we are discussing this right here is the foundation of what is going wrong with marriages/relationship in the world.

Feminism is not wrong (it empowers women and this is a good thing), but this is a case of feminism that is of the wrong mindset. Feminism empowers by giving women choice, but this choice we are talking about in this case is the wrong one for a woman to make. When a woman adamantly says she wont wash a mans clothes, guess what is next? He too takes a stand and says he wont do something for her in return. A few months down the line, you have 2 people who wont do anything for each other and then we wonder why the relationship breaks down.

A man should want to take care of his woman naturally and vice versa. Most men would happily wash their clothes themselves (as they did when they were bachelors) and knowing your wife will wash it for you means that the day she doesn't do it, you wont mind (and you would probably do it yourself) as she normally does it.

When a woman categorically says she wont wash it for you then this is another issue. Next thing she would be saying she wont cook for her husband (cant he cook himself etc)? Let us not start bringing up issues like she works, cleans and takes care of the kids too. A good man will assist with all these, but for a good relationship to work we need to have roles in the relationship and the role of domestics in a house is generally owned by a woman and the man assists. Same way a man is a breadwinner and the woman can assist. This doesn't make them unequal (i.e you can have a pilot and co-pilot who have equal qualification flying a plan, but at every point in time, one of them is in the control)

Again, go back and read the first line of the original post, These women are single and would most likely stay that way in my opinion if this is their mindset of how to act in a relationship.

while we have no evidence to prove that she was arrested and dealt with before or after her tantrums (as the video doesn't clarify this), we cannot then deliberate on the issue but make conclusions based on what we think happened which is aligned to our point of view in life.

Anyway, let us agree to disagree on this one. Each to his own.

Fair point Tensor

But like i mentioned to Kobojunkie, it is all contextual and based on what I saw and the context I made a conclusion that she was beaten up.

Is the argument that she wasn't or she was screaming after being beaten up?

Kobojunkie:
But therein lies the problem with your argument so far. You never saw this woman actually assaulted in anyway . . . you never saw her phone taken from her, how can you then claim to understand her point of view? For all we know she has probably has no clue that the official whose motorcade she ran into, was against the law. How can you claim, without actually witnessing the claimed assault or taking of her property, that she was courageous. How can you link A to B? All you saw as well was the video of a woman screaming and threatening at the top of her lungs. So  again, why would you say that is acceptable behavior?

My summary of this whole conversation is that our experiences define our views in life. This is my personal opinion.

What point are you trying to make here? You don't agree with her shouting and screaming. What does that have anything to do with whether or not I saw the assault? Let us stick to the basis of our viewpoints. It is all deduction based on context. If (and i stress that this is for illustrative purposes) you walked into a room and a 5 year old turns around quickly and puts his hand behind him. Would you suspect that this kid is trying to hide something from you? Do you to see evidence to agree he has been up to no good? It is all contextual. Based on what I saw and what she was screaming about, I put the context together to form an opinion.

I guess you saw a "wild agbero woman" in her screaming, I saw a woman who was expressing herself after being assaulted in the only way she knows. Like i summarized in my last post, our different experiences in life has allowed us to arrive at different opinions from the same situation.

Also I never personally said she was courageous. I said I understand her behaviour and wont judge he for it. There is a difference.

We only saw an edited video which was recorded by someone who was most likely from the politician's entourage. Also her phone was taken from her, so we cant see this story from her point of view.

Also we saw video of the woman shouting and we assumed she was shouting and screaming from start to finish in the whole saga? Was she shouting before she was beaten and manhandled? I don't think so. She started screaming after being beaten etc. The police can restrain and handcuff anyone who they want to arrest. Why wasn't she handcuffed and arrested?

Do we weigh up a scenario in which the police or anyone beats up a woman versus a woman screaming and shouting after being beaten and conclude that the woman screaming is more of an issue to discuss?

One thing I know about life is that experience changes views/opinions. Just because you have never experienced this doesn't mean other people do not experience it on a daily basis.

Ileke-Idi, I would advice you to drop the issue. You have made a very balanced point, but some people have a different view (whether right or wrong). I personally think your point of view is correct, but I will not force my views down other peoples throats.

One thing you can be certain of, the ability to argue endlessly doesn't mean that the point being made is correct. I see a lot of that here on NL.

So what happens to those of us that were quiet and civil and still got beaten up by the police/mopol due to their power/ego trip? Complained to the police and nothing came out of it?

Where is the balance or argument with regards to the police that beat someone up on the street for not getting out of the way on time? Are you saying this doesn't happen regularly in Nigeria?

While I am not saying that being aggressive is the right way (but I wont judge the actress who chose to go ballistic) , I also don't believe or agree on the point that being civil and trying to follow logic in this specific scenario will work in my opinion and personal experience.

Each to his own opinion and experiences I say.