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They say "dont bring a knife to a gun battle"

If you are in Nigeria and you want to act based on rules fashioned for the west, it will not work

Some people think by being reasonable or courteous you can avoid this situation? Or that this lady was overreacting?

Her reaction is probably what saved her as these police would calm down at some point thinking she knows some "big man" due to her shouting and actions.

For those that think the justice system in Nigeria works, I hope this doesn't happen to you and you need to take a police officer to court or complain about an officer. Nothing will happen. So a woman gets beaten by police officers while the politician they are carrying is right there and all we can spend our time discussing on this forum is that the woman overreacted? Seems we are not focussing on what is important. Should the police/politicians feel they own the road or feel they can physically harass or beat up someone on the streets?

How do you avoid a situation where there is traffic ahead of you, these politicians and their sirens come up behind you expecting you to get out of the way and you cant move out of the way easily?. They mobile police comes out of his car and bangs on your bonnet to "GET OUT OF THE WAY".

As you try to move out of the way they tell you to come out, bang on your window start trying to open your door, cock their gun asking you to get out. When you do, they start hitting you with the butt of their gun with you pleading that you were trying to co-operate? This has happened in front of me.

What some people fail to understand is that being civil,respectful and apologetic or being violent towards these guys doesn't make a darned difference. They are like animals and will beat you up even if you are the on your knees begging that you made a mistake.

You can only know when it happens to you (and i pray it doesn't happen to anyone on this forum). We can only talk and have viewpoints from our experiences and mine is that being civil or calm doesn't make a difference to these guys.

Our people are generally blind when it comes to religion. Every pastor preaches the word of God based on his own views. We all need to study the bible and understand it for ourselves and not what a pastor feeds us. The church is a community to grow in your religion.

Even in the bible, with the immaculate conception, the angel of God came to Mary to tell her she would bear a child without the help of her husband AND also went to Joseph to tell him his wife will have a child without his involvement.

If God tell your pastor that your new husband is Mr X , then God should also come to you too to confirm that!!!!!

Olisman,
Remember when you buy a ticket you also pay for the taxes and surcharges upfront plus the actual cost of the ticket.

You can get a refund of your taxes etc at least. Sometimes this is up to 40% of the cost of the flight.

Hope this helps.

It all depends. Some women do not go to clubs but still cheat on their husbands right under his nose. Some go to clubs and are committed to their husbands.

It is all personal, but we cannot say either side is right or wrong. For me what matters is how a woman behaves when she goes clubbing, does she respect herself and act accordingly (i.e a married woman having some fun with her female friends). She can hang out with her friends (girls night out) and go clubbing, as long as she has fun and is respecting the fact she is a married woman then this is ok. Off course guys will come up to her, but if she draws the line, then the guys know she is unavailable.


Married men go clubbing and some men behave in an undignified manner in clubs. Or are we saying clubs are forbidden to married men and women? If not, why is it one rule for the men and another for women?

You should go clubbing with your friends, go clubbing with your wife, she can go with her friends without you etc. This is the modern marriage. Like I said, it is personal, but either opinion or viewpoint isn't wrong.

I think you are interchanging arab's and Islamic nations.

This might help clear things:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_World#Political_unity

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_people

tunnytox:
Pakistanis are not arabs, they are not whites either so I don't know how the babies could be white,

Thanks! My thoughts exactly.

slex:
The agony of a Nigerian lady resident in London with her husband, when she recently delivered a set of twins whom turned out to be white is yet to subside. Unlike the story of the Nigerians that had a white baby recently, the case of sade was as a result of Adultery. Sade who relocated to the UK, 4 years , with her first child to live with her husband , bit more than she could chew when she chose to preoccupy herself with sexual liaison with her Pakistani landlord,while her husband was out in search of their daily bread. her husband who worked between jobs tirelessly to ensure that she and their first had the best of everything could not believe his eyes when the nurse of the Hospital to show him a set of white twins. he told the nurse that took him that there was a mistake but the nurse insisted that the twins were the babies his wife delivered. On getting back to his wife who was asleep at the time when he came in, found her awake as she had been told her husband had gone to see the babies. Immediately sighting her husband she started to cry and beg for forgiveness, saying it was a one-off thing with their landlord and she was willing to give the babies up for adoption. The husband then told his wife not to bother coming home from the hospital because he was going to change the locks of the house they lived in.
He subsequently confronted his landlord who admitted to the accusation saying it was a mutual thing and he settles the woman anytime they had an encounter. The landlord's children too told him that his wife shouldn't come back to the house with the kids because they would deal with her.Right now the troubled lady only gets support from the provisions made by the Government as her husband and lover have since abandoned her. She is staying with a friend at this time

How does that work? She cheated on her husband with her Pakistani landlord and the twins are white? Something doesn't add up in your story.

My brother no vex, maybe I was judging your brother too harshly. I have seen text speak affect others in the professional world and was only trying to advice (even if i was judgemental)


Take it easy 

PS: By the way if you look closely at the a keyboard, the letter "S" and "" are close to each other. So riddled was mis-typed as riddles. This is a typing error. Not a spelling error.

Omo Alata:
That's not entirely true.  Most of the white people over here are very very poor in the written English.  Thank God for spellchecker    They can speak it properly (afterall it's their language) but when it comes to writing it    A manager I worked with once, gives his report to Africans to check for him before he submits it.  God dey  

Omo Alata, while you make a good point, I do not personally benchmark myself against white British people. If I have learnt and studied the English language, then I should be able to speak, write and articulate in English. If some white people in the UK have poor written English, then too bad for them. I personally have never worked with anyone who cannot spell properly in the English language (white, black, Nigerian, African, British). Nigerians are always very well educated and speak English very well.

If for instance the poster's brother is looking for a job in Nigeria (lets say MTN Nigeria for example) and has to write an essay or give a presentation (with power point slides or something similar) on the future of mobile technology and the African market he might struggle as he is used to "text speak".

Maybe I am wrong, maybe I am judging him unfairly. We all speak pidgin and it doesn't affect our professional written English. The problem is that I have recently seen a lot of CV from junior brothers and sisters of people I know and friends at church (who are looking for a job) and it was riddled with poor spelling and text speak.

lightheart:
"Would like to know if a person who applies for UKBA Administrative Review can still reapply for a fresh student visa or do I chill for d 28 days I waz asked? I'm havin sleepless nyts ova dis nd skool resumes septemba 20th".

Nlanders, dats a request from my yunga bro. Wuld rily appreciate y'all advises.

If your younger brother cannot write in proper English (rather than text speak), then I doubt he can get a student visa to the UK. It is easy to get carried away with text speak, but when he starts to look for a job and cannot spell properly, he would say the world is against him or better still put it down to tribalism/racism.

[quote author=Inked_Nerd link=topic=498065.msg6603758#msg6603758 date=1282252549]loooool, he's the village goat of NL[/quote]Hehehe! I bet he is based in naija. Taking someone to the police station semi-nude is the modus operandi of my lovely naija police, hence he could only fabricate a story based on experiences he has had with them

I hate to bring a brother down, but i think Mobo444 has some major issues. Seems some naija girls have been ignoring him and he is taking it out on them in a forum.

To be honest with you, with all the crazy stuff that goes through his head, no sane girl will look at him twice!

MOBO444:
My friends took some pictures of her as she was arrested, the police also refuse to allow her wear her cloths, she went to the Metropolitan police station almost unclothed

While many things Mobo444 has said is enough to prove he is telling a big fat lie, the fact that he thinks UK police will arrest someone and take them to the station semi nude shows that his story is fabricated.

Luxoire, I dont know if this helps your boyfriends situation. Read through it, there might be a glimmer of hope?

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/newsarticles/2010/july/49-new-policy-guidance-pankina

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/documents/news/pbs-pol-guid-maintenance.pdf

These came out recently from the home office.

I am personally not comfortable talking to or dealing with someone if I cannot see their face and they are in front of me.

Saying that, a young lady cannot go to Saudi Arabia and wear mini skirts etc. The society and law of the land there doesn't allow it. The UK needs to protect its identity by banning the burkha just as Saudi Arabia (and other middle eastern countries) are doing by restricting what women wear.

If you go to live in Saudi Arabia, you will respect the society and laws of the land. What is wrong with the UK doing the same and expecting people to respect the British society where seeing your face is important?

While your arguments are all valid, the kick in the teeth is the unfair basis of the so called "consultation" on the cap (I can look for the UKBA link if any one is interested). The UK government is looking to put a cap on new and existing migrants i.e Tier 1 and 2 renewals etc.

I think this is unfair. If someone has made the choice to move to the UK and starts a new life here, he or she should not have the goal post moved. Imagine a Banker who left his country (India for example) and comes to the UK on a Tier 1 visa. He gets a 2 year visa initially and then just before renewal this proposed cap and changes to Tier 1 points based system affects him and he cannot get his visa renewed, what is he going to do?

This is different if someone hasn't come into the country and agrees to rules before he or she applies rather than rules changing while you have moved and gone through the whole process of moving to the UK.

In the US, the H1B visa is capped but the yearly quota is not subjected to people already on H1B visas. Which is a fairer system in comparison to what the UK wants to do. Also the American diversity lottery (visa lottery) which gives you permanent residency status if you are successful is also fair. You know what you get before you step into the US.

Even the Canadian Federal or Provincial nominees do not change laws AFTER you have arrived. They only change a criteria before you arrive i.e during application stage.

This is my issue with the UK govt. They keep changing the laws unfairly for those already here. Funny thing is that the previous labour government did the same thing. It is all a political gimmick to keep the people happy.

In the days of Enoch Powell (and his "rivers of blood" speech) the UK was already seen as full and resources were stretched (in 1968). I was speaking to an elderly Jamaican man last week and he said that in the 60's the media was going on about the UK being full and resources were being stretched. 42 years on it is the same thing we are hearing.

Immigration control is a must in any country, but it should be fair and balanced. EU migration (from new A8 nations) and non EU migration should be capped equally in my opinion. A few other EU countries (Germany, Austria, Denmark and Belgium) put transitional restriction on A8 nations from working when they joined the EU in 2004.

It is all seasonal because of the recession and its effects. When the UK economy needs to grow in the coming years, they govt will lower the bar as to allow more non EU workforce as usual. This has been happening over the years.

Hmmm

This one is a tough one that hasn't been thought through. Non EU migrants pay National Insurance (NI) and this covers their use of the NHS. If they pay Health Insurance, then they are either paying it twice or need to have their NI reduced?

Also, private healthcare generally use the same NHS facilities (for surgeries etc), the Doctor might diagnose etc outside the NHS, but the actual procedure is done in an NHS hospital. People on private healthcare don't have to wait on the NHS waiting list for procedures. These same people complaining about migrants using NHS will complain that migrants (with private health insurance) are jumping the queue again? Bizarre.

While I agree that private healthcare should be introduced, I would think that it is fair to have new immigrants pay for it for 1 year (during that time they will be contributing to the NHS and can now start to use the NHS for free after 1 year).

MRbrownJAY:
Husband: darling, why my dinner aint ready?! Wifey: shut up, you baby dikc man!
H: baby, why didnt you pay the bills with the money i left you?! W: oh please, go grow some dikc before talking to me!
H: honey, you seems to have put on some weight?! W: abeg be quiet, i have been hoping you put on weight between your legs forever!

LOL! MrBrownJay, you made my day with this! Too funny!!!

whiteroses:
he try sef
someone told me she met a guy that got over excited during pre-intimacy and started shaking, when he got in the TOTO he dint even move up and down, he just squeezed his butt in her for 1.5 seconds bursted and started panting for air if it was me i will raise an alarm and belittle him what nonsense lol they went on many more date and apparently he's actually good that day was just a one off (i think maybe she over blew hin d1ck and was ready to come anyway)lol sori for being so graphic

Whiteroses, I guess the guy was excited as this was his first time with the girl. We all know that the first time with a new girl is tricky as you are so excited you cant relax. He should make sure there is a second round where he can take his time and work his magic. If he is still doing this 3 or 4 times later, then there is a problem.

Too right MrbrownJay, as a matter of fact, he has been dealt a bad hand and with this will turn things around to his favour ,

He can be a 6, 7 8 or 9 inch stud for her, depending on her mood that day!

Stories like this make me appreciative that I am not abnormal in that department.

Love.4bug, it seems you have feelings for the guy and like his financial status. The only problem is his size.

Your solution is simple, buy him a strap on d.i.c.k (the type lesbians use as there are lesbian women who are sexually satisfied abi?) and make sure the strap on is a size that makes you go "gaga". Once he is done satisfying you, you can help him out too i.e touch him, oral or let him pump you for 10 seconds (  ).

So you can have it all, decent guy who will be faithful to you, loaded financially, have him wear his 9 inch strap on, loads of pre-intimacy and you are a happy woman!!!

buzugee:
like you said he ran out of bullets that was his downfall. me myself ? i will have enough bullets to take on a small country bullets are cheap. i will order them by the caseloads from walmart dem no born the armu robber well.

oh yeah what happened to john brown ? he won the battle but lost the war. he got hanged by the USA government for treason

Buzugee (or should I say Bugsy ) what of the thieves that attack during the day? Or tailgate you when you are driving into your compound? What of the ones that have the gates and front door open from inside? (inside job?)

While you might be able to protect your self (as you have described) by being trained with arms professionally (i.e you are a marksman) and have planned a strategy for this particular situation, there a million and 1 other situations that might occur. It might be better to live to fight another day.

tkb417:
Hello oo
maybe u dont know some people have parents living abroad or even siblings.
if i visit and i choose to stay with mum/dad wht d fck is wrong with it? or i choose to stay with my younger siblings, how is that an issue?

The issue on this debate is referring to friends and not about visiting family in the UK. I wouldnt expect someone's family to visit the UK and not stay with them. We are talking about friends in this case.

In my personal opinion, friends who come to the UK on holidays never book their own hotel/accomodation, they want to stay with you, they dont ask to know if you are available (or have your own holiday booked or have other visitors). They dont contribute in anyway to their stay. They get annoyed when you dont "take time" off work to take them around the UK while they are on holiday.

This may not be the case for all people coming to the UK from naija for hols, but most of them do it. Maybe you fall into the other group.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=459274.msg6175105#msg6175105 date=1276004795]There's nothing to even suggest you fare better than your friends over here. . . . .What they lack in their pockets, they have in the quality of life.
Whereas, men like you have traded the quality of life(no light, no water, pollution, mosquitoes and security) for cash in your pockets.[/quote]Well said Sauron.

A lot (not all) of visitors in the UK from naija stay with friends or family. So they pay no hotel or accomodation costs.

They should try going on a 2 weeks holiday to the Seychelles where you pay for flights, hotel and meals etc. I dont think they would be travelling "twice" a year in that case.

Katsumomo thanks for your comments. We have to look inside and be honest with our selves first. If you look back on some previous posts on this topic, I agreed that that tribalism and nepotism which is another form of prejudice exists in Nigeria. This topic was about injustice abroad hence why I wasnt going into that in detail, but your comments are valid 100%.

If you have the time, see some previous conversation I had on another similar topic (Feb 2010)where Cap28 was involved on similar issues.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=394721.msg5491008#msg5491008

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=394721.msg5492565#msg5492565

I like your analogy of a man with no shoes meeting a man with no feet. I know that there are less opportunities for black in France or Germany (experiences of friends etc). I think the UK is better than these countries in terms of discrimination, but i concur that discrimination exists across Europe.

David, I can assure you we aren't the same person. I have had some communications with Cap28 (sometime earlier this year) on similar issues about racism and he just came across as passionate and not a racist. These recent posts prove to be different.

I agree the guy discredited himself, no arguments there. His delivery or style is not good at all, but some of his content made sense. But overall, you have to win your audience over and he lost people on the way especially with his comment to Bkbabe (and I personally think he should apologise)

^^^^^^^

You have shown that there is no need for me to have a conversation with you as you arent civil.

I would have tried to carry on the conversation with you, but your choice of words are in no way showing you are ready to have a debate that wont end up in the exchange of insults.

Using words like "lame excuse", "Don't you see how dumb this makes your argument", "not even that you have tried it and it failed you. hiss!", "with your limited sight there", "not just blowing fluff up our behinds with the claims you have so far made of your person" surely take me beyond the point where I can discuss with you.

I don't have to prove anything to you (about who I am, what I want out of life or what I have been able to achieve).

Here is what I am going to do, I will ignore all your posts as it seems you cannot converse without being rude and please ignore any posts I make on this forum.

As they say, each to his own, your view on life works for you and mine works for me, I dont pay your bills or have any influence over your life and you dont in mine. I am happy to carry on this conversation with anyone else on this topic who is interested.

Kobojunkie, if you read my previous posts on this topic (2-3 post back, you will see an example i gave with regards to this).

Off course one can sue, but this is like the complaints department of your utility company. The rules have been set for them to have their way and not vice versa. I don't need statistics to get an impression of something i see everyday.

Do you have the impression from reading my posts that I am bitter or have a personal vendetta against "racists"? If you take the time to read my own posts you will see that I am not on a crusade, but i know injustice when I see it. Same way I know injustice in Nigeria when i see it. Just the same way tribalism allows for people of a certain tribe to find it easier to find jobs in certain companies in Nigeria, do you think that if this company sets up a system to look into free and fair ways of recruiting it is going to come up with anything meaningful? why is the onus on a black person to sue due to racial prejudice? I don't agree with that.

I believe that racism exists. You don't (from your response). Prejudice or racism has not hampered me in achieving the personal goals and aspirations I set out for myself (with regards to your "pity party" reference which i find insulting, but I believe it wasn't meant to aggravate). I wont wallow and cry about it, but I will speak up and challenge it where I see it.

I give everyone the benefit of the doubt , please don't make assumptions about a person because of discussions on forum and I wont make assumptions about you either, but we can express our opinions as expected in a forum.

I have tried to make my point about Cap28. I will leave him to handle this situation with Bk/Bababe (apologise, defend or ignore). I personally think Cap28 should apologise in this instance.

That aside, I am of the opinion that there is racism in the west and in the UK. Institutional racism (and i am not referring to skin heads or old men who spit on you on the bus and call you names). The stance of "leave the country if you experience racism and you don't like it" is not the right answer in my opinion. In our lives the only response to unfairness is not to walk away, we can choose to fight or walk away.

I think Cap28 had some good points on this thread, i have not really noticed or followed his previous posts so i dont have an overall impression of him. I also think he has marred a good point he was getting across by some of his comments that are as prejudiced as the people/situation he was commenting about. He does come across as bitter, but i like to give people the benefit of the doubt.