₦airaland Forum

jojothaiv:
Well i salute those who even use the Holy Writ as an evidence to point to the existence of Hell Fire...

But on the flipside, the OP moniker and the what he posted is contradicting!
Sinkills, you say is your moniker and you don't believe in Hell fire. Seriously, it's high time i sleep with all what i'm seeing on nairaland!

emmkeffs:
Well sorry to disappoint you. 80% of what is in your bible are made up stories. a lot of the practice and doctrines are borrowed cultures from other religions before jesus came. I don't hate people because they say they are religious but hate when people as a result of what they have been made to believe turn themselves into religious crusaders all in the name of salvation, repentance and conversion. xtians and all religious people see the product of what man created as a blessing of God when they should consider one and the highest commandment is love. Xtians say they follow Jesus when in reality its opposite. The church is built on corruption and mind control mechanism. Go to your history and you will find out that religion is harmful to humanity as a specie. Once in this part of the world, the internet came from the pit of hell, attachment was hellish according to you professed xtians but today you have all accepted that its good. TRUTH must first be rejected, castigated before it is accepted.

Maximus85:
If hell means a place of torment, then wetin Jesus go do for there? Fine, hell was mentioned in the Bible. But fire was never attached to it. Without the fire, hell means something else which is just a normal grave. Lake of fire was mentioned in revelations and that place says it means second death. I dare anyone to show me where "Hell fire" is mentioned in the Bible.

I'm waiting.......

afroxyz:
For religion to be potent, its prolytizers have to first convince you that your soul is in trouble. That's the role hell plays in Christianity. But then I ask, how would God judge our forefathers who did not hear the imported gospel of Christianity? What parameters would he use? Also, how can God punish man for a sinful nature which man unwillingly obliged since according to the bible we are all born into sin? He created man, birthed him into sin and yet punish him for a sin that he has no hand in. So that means a day old baby would be sent to hell right? Then how can you tell me that Jesus who died 2000 years ago died for a sin which I have not yet committed? I am very sure I can't trace my lineage 2000 years back. So that means God already knows we would sin and yet punishes us. And yet he is merciful. My conclusion is that there is no hell. Simple!

hopsydboi:
Is there no better reason to accept Christ and serve God than the assumption of hell?

Rossikk:
Thank you, Mr Christianity-is-the-only-way-to-God. So, are the two billion Chinese all going to your fairytale 'hell', since they don't give two shiits about imported gods like 'Jesus' , but prefer their homegrown religions, just like they manufacture their own goods, unlike you who imports everything including your gods? Go to China and tell them they're going to 'hell', let them kick your colonized butt to kingdom come. Ewu!

seggzz:
If that god existed then he must be omnipotent, omniscience and all merciful god. I would ask him the following question. And he would need to reply before sending me to hell.

(1) Why are you passionate to roast people in hell for even the tiniest of sin? Don't you have love as they said?

(2)Why are you so wicked in old testament bible? While in the new testament you repented, can you give me the time to repent as you do?

(3) Why do you create so many religion to confuse me? You didn't show me the true religion i can follow.

(4)Why is your holy books full with contradictions, repetitions and other mistakes? Do you also make mistakes or are you not perfect as i am?

(5) Why not you or your angel appear to me so that we can talk? You couldn't help cure our diseases and Why did your true followers die if even they pray to You? I thought you are all powerful but couldn't save them from diseases, disaster and even death.

I couldn't figure out the sin i have committed for you to roast me in hell. In some part of your holy book you said thou shall not lie but allow some people to lie. I read this in the holy book i could lay my hands on

seggzz:
If that god existed then he must be omnipotent, omniscience and all merciful god. I would ask him the following question. And he would need to reply before sending me to hell.

(1) Why are you passionate to roast people in hell for even the tiniest of sin? Don't you have love as they said?

(2)Why are you so wicked in old testament bible? While in the new testament you repented, can you give me the time to repent as you do?

(3) Why do you create so many religion to confuse me? You didn't show me the true religion i can follow.

(4)Why is your holy books full with contradictions, repetitions and other mistakes? Do you also make mistakes or are you not perfect as i am?

(5) Why not you or your angel appear to me so that we can talk? You couldn't help cure our diseases and Why did your true followers die if even they pray to You? I thought you are all powerful but couldn't save them from diseases, disaster and even death.

I couldn't figure out the sin i have committed for you to roast me in hell. In some part of your holy book you said thou shall not lie but allow some people to lie. I read this in the holy book i could lay my hands on

emmkeffs:
I completely agree with you. We create our experiences. Personally, I don't believe in Hell. As for me living in this world is the hell. And come to think of it, if Jesus said xtians should forgive 70 x 70 times a day then God should be forgive like UNLIMITED a day. I can prove it with anyone that there is no place called hell fire only in the consciousness of religious followers

emperorchedda:
You know you all but flogged the bush but didn't cut any ground. What exactly did the president say?? Say his COMPLETE statement and not half! You can't choose to select some part of a statement to accept thereby ignoring the other half

MrDavidson:
Where did those statements mention being in talks with militants? And some have even taken it further by mentioning "scavengers". Utter rubbish. They're economic terrorists and deserve to be treated as such while the FG in all sincerity need to put them to shame by running a totally inclusive govt that will shut the cries and hues of northernizatiom.

emperorchedda:
This is taking dumbness to another level. I will post the link to that video so you can reduce your ignorance.

A man says '5% of the country didn't vote for me but 97% did it is only logical I work in favour of the 97% that voted for me but since this is a democracy which is the govt of the people I CAN'T DO THAT, I will have to carry everyone along'

Oga where did he refer to '5%' as bad people??

honourhim:
The lake of fire is real. Stop playing double games about it. Those who will not repent will not repent and tbey will end up there.

TrajansKong:
This ^^.

Goodness and honesty are a cosmic irrelevance to you.

Obedience is first and foremost.

What happened to your humanity?
Being well behaved and of good character are commendable, morally ok and acceptable. However, for the sake of heaven, no one's good manners is good enough to qualify for heaven. This is because we are all sinners by nature. We cannot mix our supposed goodness with our inbred sin and be eligible for heaven. We need to settle the issue of sin through genuine repentance. Then we need to put on the righteousness of Christ by exercising faith on His finished work on the Cross of Calvary. It is only the imputed and imparted righteousness from Christ that qualifies us for heaven. However, we must be careful to do good and live a life well pleasing to God AFTER SALVATION. Any good works before salvation are classified as dead works by the Scriptures (Hebrews 9:13,14) and therefore inconsequential salvation-wise. God bless you.

AntiWailer:
When the ruling is in their favour, it is constitutional but when it is not , Buhari is a Tyrant.

otem4eartum:
With my soul I can swear that Kumuyi didn't heal a soul yesterday with the so-called power of Jesus. Everyone you see telling you of being cured of insanity and so on are Kumuyi's people kept and fed every day of their lives for such purpose. Kumuyi knows that Jesus is fake, and as soon as he knew, he began to do whatever himself likes after many attempts to cure for real and no cure followed. Kumuyi and all churches are actors.

Now back to your Ulcer and all the ear problem stuffs, DID U GET THE MIRACLES ON A CRUSADE GROUND? PLS DON'T TELL LIES HERE. BE SINCERE!!!

otem4eartum:
The testimonies you hear are all forged by those who thought that they have been healed by faith. I can swear on my life that no miracle actually happened there. Those people who testified only did this based on faith, thinking that as soon as they get hone, they'll be actually healed. That's the main reason why those you see sharing testimonies are those who will come to say I HAVE ULCER, STOMACH PAIN, HEADACHE, BACKACHE, COUGH, CATARRH. they think they are healed if what they say they have didn't manifest much on the crusade ground. But when they return home, they still spot those things there. Now please personally visit some people who you heard their testimonies and ask them again. Did you not see that all the real lame people, blind people, people with real ailments, none of them was cured? Or you didn't see those with crutches returning back home with their crutches? Although you might have helped some of them walk a bit, telling them to exercise faith, if indeed you are an usher, you'll notice that none of those really afflicted people you were helping to direct didn't get cured. And if you can really say that all of them are cured, then I'll personally seek the hand of nature that the stroke of Mr. Silas, a 61 year old man who came to the crusade should come upon you. And I'll personally beg nature that the strong eye problem of Mr Francis should come on you, because their problems are still with them till today.

Think, think, think, man! THE MORE YOU LOOK, THE LESS YOU SEE!!!
NOBODY WAS ACTUALLY HEALED ON THAT GROUND AND I CAN PUT DOWN MY LIFE ON THE LINE ON THAT.

Now at the bolded, OUR BODY HEALS FROM MINOR DISEASES LIKE THE ONES YOU HAVE MENTIONED THAT YOU WERE DIVINELY HEALED FROM. I CAN TELL YOU THAT ALMOST ALL THOSE THINGS YOU SAID YOU WERE HEALED FROM BY DIVINE INTERVENTION ARE NATURAL HEALINGS ORDAINED BY GOD FOR EVERYONE. I HAVE ALWAYS NATURALLY BEEN HEALED TOO, BUT ASSUMING I PRAYED WHEN I HAVE MY PROBLEMS, I WOULD HAVE ALSO THOUGHT THAT IT WAS MY PRAYERS THAT REMOVED THEM. NO SIR, IT'S THE WORK OF NATURE. PRAYER OR NO PRAYER, YOU'LL GET CURED FROM SOME SICKNESSES.

Did you get any of those cures from a specific crusade ground? If no, then you were naturally cured from them all.

joseff14:
I was also at the programme in Alimosho yesterday, I was in their main building alongside physically deformed, lame, and crippled victims, but after the prayer, nothing happened and before long, we started hearing testimony. I then began to wonder, where are all these testifiers springing out from? what happened yesterday has totally opened my eyes to the deception of all this fraudulent man of god. stop deceiving people, I haven't seen any miracle around me, why does it only happen on the pulpit?

OtemWonyahweh:
Songs of Otem
CHAPTER EIGHT

1. Why do you deceive the old people, O Kumuyi? Why do you gather the people together to say that they shall be healed?
2. Why do you tell my people false testimonies? Kumuyi, let my people go to the hospitals instead of gathering them together like chickens, saying that you have miracles with you.
3. And my people gather together in your place every month, saying, let us go to the monthly programme of Williams, the son of Kumuyi, perhaps we shall receive healing there.
4. Now many did gather today, saying, we shall be healed if we go to the camp of Kumuyi. And they who have eye issues went. And also they who are lame. And they who are blind and they who have stroke.
5. Now did all they who have issues gather in one place, saying, we shall be healed by the god of Kumuyi. And their expectation was cut off. For they prayed hard today, July 17, 2016 in the monthly programme which is concluding today for this month at Alimosho.
6. Then did Eartum reveal to me those things which is happening in the place where they have gathered to see if anyone in the region of Alimosho has been healed. But what did I see? All they who are sick returned to their houses without any healing.
7. Did I not see Uya come into the congregation with his walking stick? And Uya returned as he has come, for he got no healing at all.
8. Was Bello not also in the congregation? For Bello is inflicted with cancer. But he returned home without healing. Was Femi not also in the congregation? Yet he has also got no healing. Was Chidi not a member? But he has gotten no healing. I say also of Musa and of Michael and of John and of all they who attended the programme, saying, we shall be healed today.
9. But none of them went back healed. For the deception of Kumuyi has brought them, yet they received no healing at all.
8. Was Francis not also one of they who went to the crusade because he needed healing so much from his eyes problems? And his body also shook greatly. But lo, Francis has returned home without healing.
10. And who is Michael if not he who is willing to get healing from that crusade?
11. Did Paul who has stroke not also believe greatly that he shall be healed? But Paul received no healing, for he was observing the programme on the satellite from Oshogbo.
12. And many who were in Calabar also watched the programme, but none of them got healing. Did Ekong in Calabar not also watch it? But his problem remained with him.
13. Did Peter in Ekiti not also connect to the pastor, William the son of Kumuyi? But of a truth, he received no healing. And in Port Harcourt, Mary did pray for cure, but he did not receive cure.
14. And many people all over the nation Nigeria went to the programme in their churches, saying, Yahweh shall heal us. But none of them received healing. But some of them shared testimonies by faith, believing that they shall be healed when they get home.
15. And Moses shared his testimony, believing that he has been healed. But when he returned home, he saw no healing. And he wept bitterly because he has already shared the testimony of healing to a multitude of souls.
16. And the glory of Yahweh has been exalted. But none knew that Yahweh does not heal anyone. But all they who have said that they have been healed did not know that they were never sick before.
17. Now also some years ago, a doctor in an hospital in Abia state has been paid, saying, whenever anyone comes to you this week, saying I am sick, tell that person saying, you have heart problem.
18. Then shall you refer them to the monthly programme, saying, go to the programme, for we have heard that Kumuyi the man of God will come to our town this week.
19. Now that patient believes that he is sick of heart problem indeed. And he went to the programme, praying hard to be healed. And after the last Amen of Kumuyi, the man returned to the same hospital, saying, confirm if I have been cured or not.
20. Now the doctor pretended as if he has checked. And he said, you have been healed indeed. Then did the man go about sharing testimony, which is false, saying I have heart problem before, but now it is gone.
21. And some said, show us the doctor report and he did so. And some said, go to another hospital to check if it is so. And he went to another hospital. And they said, you have no heart problem anymore.
22. Such man went home happy, knowing not that he never had a heart problem all his life.
23. Is it only Kumuyi who does this? No, for even Oyedepo and TB Joshua and also Lazarus do these things and they know in their mind that they are all deceivers.
24. For Mouka did so greatly, locking out those who are truly ill while bringing those whom they have promised to pay millions of naira to the stage. And those people were fooled and we're not paid after their performances.
25. And the glory of all is given to Yahweh and to Eusebius and to Faulkin.
26. Now I declare to the wise, if a doctor says to you, you have a small heart, or you have a kidney problem, or you have HIV, now go first to another doctor to confirm it, for many doctors in Nigeria are paid to work for the pastors.
27. Now when you have gone about to check with other doctors, tell them not if you have checked from a doctor before. For the other doctor could also be one of them. But let them check if what they said you have is true.
28. Go to about four doctors, for many of the doctors are corrupt and are working for the pastors. For they get more money doing that than in the occupation which they do.
29. Be not deceived, Kumuyi and Olukoya and Adeboye and Suleiman and all pastors and all imams are deceivers.
30. Now I say to you, use your brain and worship no god.

mrkayusfit:
Buhari will soon order his re-arrest if he refuse to s hut up. Useless man

duni04:
Please go back and confirm the true text of that statement Buhari made. Ignorance is truly a disease and is the cause of most of the bullshit going on in this country. And scoundrels and street urchins like Fayose and Nnamdi KANU are taking advantage of this ôrgy of ignorance. For once we have a President that wants absolutely nothing from the national treasury and sincerely wants to build and secure the nation. But we're allowing those bastards that want the status quo to remain to deceive us. It's a shame and tragedy!

charming1111:
If you read the 2016 edition of King James Version, the book of Matthew clearly states that, “he who has seen the sky, has seen the ocean”. If you want to confirm this scripture, check your bibles through Google play store.

I’ve been to so many churches; Catholic, Anglican, wooden Pentecostal churches, etc, before I joined Winners’ Chapel in 2007 and surprisingly, my life has never been the same. Although, am a member of the late comers unit (those who come to service 5mins before closing time just to share the grace), there are so many things worthy of note in Living Faith Church (LFC) aka Winners’ Chapel.

1.There is a deadline for your prosperity: If you are a first timer in LFC, you must hear the resident pastor saying “if your life doesn’t change after 3 months of joining this church, feel free to leave”.........at first, I didn’t believe but after listening to several testimonies of fellow members, I keyed into the prophesy, and my life changed from EDGE to 3G!!!..... I give God all the glory.

2.A true LFC member is a giver: If you are a member of winners’ chapel and your surname is STINGY, it’s either you are a CHINA-PRODUCT or you are a cousin to BUHARI. My bishop, David.O.Oyedepo, has a passion for giving! And as a son of the prophet, I have followed his footsteps for the past 9years and all I can say is that “Life is Good(LG)”

3.Praises/thanksgiving are traits of true winners: I’ve never seen a church that praises God like Winners’ Chapel!!! So many members have received instant healing on a Sunday service, during praises...... Indeed, there is God in Living Faith Church.

4.The announcement before the benediction: Before the benediction is said, there is a very important announcement that is made. The pastor would say “in case you came late after the offering/tithe has been collected, please do not take it home; make sure you drop it before you go; for thou shall not appear before the Lord empty” A member without spiritual insight will think that the pastor is trying to hustle but the truth is that, whether you give or not, God will still bless the church and don’t forget that you are the primary beneficiary of every seed you sow in the house of God.

Conclusively, we serve one God and as Christians we are free to fellowship with any church, but as for me and my household, we have pitched our tenth with Winners’ Chapel Worldwide because God resides there. I’m very sure that in heaven, there must be winners’ street for the winners’ family to reside.
SHALOM!!!

http://infongr.com/2016/07/14/4-reasons-why-you-must-leave-your-church-start-attending-winners-chapel/

realbest:
Okay Let's COMPARE & CONTRAST The Appointments So Far Made:
======NORTH======
1. SGF
2. Chief of Army staff
3. Chief of Air staff
4. Chief of staff
5. NSA
6. Special Adviser on media & publicity
7. GMD NNPC
8. MD NPA
9. Chief of Defence Intelligence
10. Special Adviser on Planning
11. INEC Chairman Mahmood Yakubu
12. DG DSS
13.CG Customs Service
14. CG Immigration Service
15 CG NSDC
16. IG of Police
17. DG DPR
18. MD AMCON
19. ED AMCON
CEO of NAICOM
20. DG EFCC
21. DG FRCN
22.DG NTA
23. DG NBC
24. DG NOA
25. MD NIWA
======SOUTH======
1. Head of Service of the Federation
2. Chief of Defence Staff
3. Chief of Naval Staff
4. MD NIMASA
5. Chairman NNPC Board
6. Chief Economic Adviser
7. Special Adviser on media and publicity
8. Chairman FIRS
9. Special Assistant on National
Assembly matters
10. Group Executive Director NNPC
11. Executive Director AMCON
12. Special Adviser Niger Delta Amnesty
13. DG Budget Office
16. DG NAN
17. DG VON
18. MD Nigerian Gas Company
19. Commander Multi-National Join task force on Bokoharam
20. Ag. MD Bank of Industry
21. DG NEITI
22. Senior Special Assistant (Media)
23. MD NDDC
================
Aside from having the
following Major positions
to persons from the southern
Nigeria:
================
1. CBN Governor
2. Minister of Finance
3. Minister of Trade and Investment
4. Minister of Petroleum (state)
5. Minister of Foreign Affairs
6. Minister of Health
7. Minister of Transport
8. Minister of Works, Housing and Power
9. Minister/ Chairman National Planning Commission
10. Minister of solid Minerals
11. Minister of Communication technology
12. Minister of Science and Technology
13. Minister For Labour and Employment
14. Executive Secretary of NCDMB
# PMBJobs
NOTE: With emphasis on COMPARE & CONTRAST...

realbest:
Okay Let's COMPARE & CONTRAST The Appointments So Far Made:
======NORTH======
1. SGF
2. Chief of Army staff
3. Chief of Air staff
4. Chief of staff
5. NSA
6. Special Adviser on media & publicity
7. GMD NNPC
8. MD NPA
9. Chief of Defence Intelligence
10. Special Adviser on Planning
11. INEC Chairman Mahmood Yakubu
12. DG DSS
13.CG Customs Service
14. CG Immigration Service
15 CG NSDC
16. IG of Police
17. DG DPR
18. MD AMCON
19. ED AMCON
CEO of NAICOM
20. DG EFCC
21. DG FRCN
22.DG NTA
23. DG NBC
24. DG NOA
25. MD NIWA
======SOUTH======
1. Head of Service of the Federation
2. Chief of Defence Staff
3. Chief of Naval Staff
4. MD NIMASA
5. Chairman NNPC Board
6. Chief Economic Adviser
7. Special Adviser on media and publicity
8. Chairman FIRS
9. Special Assistant on National
Assembly matters
10. Group Executive Director NNPC
11. Executive Director AMCON
12. Special Adviser Niger Delta Amnesty
13. DG Budget Office
16. DG NAN
17. DG VON
18. MD Nigerian Gas Company
19. Commander Multi-National Join task force on Bokoharam
20. Ag. MD Bank of Industry
21. DG NEITI
22. Senior Special Assistant (Media)
23. MD NDDC
================
Aside from having the
following Major positions
to persons from the southern
Nigeria:
================
1. CBN Governor
2. Minister of Finance
3. Minister of Trade and Investment
4. Minister of Petroleum (state)
5. Minister of Foreign Affairs
6. Minister of Health
7. Minister of Transport
8. Minister of Works, Housing and Power
9. Minister/ Chairman National Planning Commission
10. Minister of solid Minerals
11. Minister of Communication technology
12. Minister of Science and Technology
13. Minister For Labour and Employment
14. Executive Secretary of NCDMB
# PMBJobs
NOTE: With emphasis on COMPARE & CONTRAST...

theoneJabulani:
As sad as his words seem, there exists truths on it. If the adeboyes, kumuyis and oyakilomes of the world don't go around with blasting megaphones and threatening people with hell., then their ministers and followers should use their head. It so sad that a life was lost . The lady didn't deserve this, hope the killers are. brought to justice and this will serve as a warning to other megaphone blasters