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Religion / Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by SIRTee15: 9:46am On Apr 30 |
AbuTwins: So I should believe U instead. Joker.....
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Religion / Re: They Made Jesus God For Christians! by SIRTee15: 8:18am On Apr 30 |
AbuTwins: It's obvious U are ashamed of your Qur'an. U cannot answer a simple question. A question that is already answered in your quran. Your Koran has the answer to my question but U are too ashamed to say it. This shows not only are U ashamed of the Qur'an but U are embarrassed by what's written in the Qur'an. I will report u to your colleagues... Ohyoudidn't, expanse, Qasim6, antichristian Your friend here Abutwins is embarrassed by what's written in the Qur'an. I have asked him a question lifted from the Qur'an but he's too ashamed of the Qur'an to answer it. A Muslim who is ashamed of the Qur'an cannot be called Muslim. He's left Islam. AbuTwin redeem yourself and answer my question. Look into your Qur'an and give me my answer. If Jesus is indeed is the son of God, should he be worshipped? If Allah has a son, should the son be worshipped? Answer the question. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by SIRTee15: 8:02am On Apr 30 |
AbuTwins: I've never seen an obstinate ignorant fellow like yourself. Your knowledge is wack yet U refuse to learn. I will disgrace u with facts today U won't have the confidence to debate bible anymore. Now on YHWH, I will show U both biblical and scholars evidence that YHWH is well known outside of Israel even b4 the later became a nation. Biblical evidence Egyptians (Exodus 1-15): The Egyptians are called to “know that I am YHWH” throughout the plague narrative, showing they knew of the deity. Jethro (Exodus 18): The Midianite father-in-law of Moses knew YHWH. Jethro was a Midian priest who acknowledged the mighty of YHWH and mentioned his name multiple times on the book of exodus. Balaam (Numbers 22-24): Balaam recognized the power of YHWH, had direct encounter with him and mentioned his name when giving his supplications. Caleb (Num 32:12): The great hero of Judah was a Kenizzite, one of the Canaanite tribes (Gen 15:19). Gibeonites (Joshua 9): The Canaanite town of Gibeon employed deceit against Israel, but perhaps had some measure of faith in YHWH Jael (Judges 4-5): The killer of Sisera was a Kenite, a tribe of Canaanites who knew YHWH by name. (Gen 15:19) Scholars evidence is highlighted below with links... To say YHWH became known after Moses is intellectual laziness. If anything modern scholars believed YHWH was introduced to Israel by the Canaanites and a Semitic nomad tribes called Shashu in the levant region. People had known YHWH long before there was a nation called Israel, they just don't know him well and worshipped him in the midst of polytheism- amongst other gods. Abraham was the first person to worship YHWH as a monotheist- post the flood era. That's why he's called father of faith. God called him out in the midst of polytheism civilisation to start a journey of monotheism- worship ONLY YHWH. 1 Like
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Religion / Re: They Made Jesus God For Christians! by SIRTee15: 6:56pm On Apr 29 |
AbuTwins: I will repeat this important question just in case U pretend to miss it. My question is based on what's written in your Qur'an. If Jesus is indeed is the son of God, should he be worshipped? If Allah has a son, should the son be worshipped? Answer the question. |
Religion / Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by SIRTee15: 6:07pm On Apr 29 |
Ohyoudidnt: My friend sacrificial offering was discarded. Who are we offering sacrifice to? A God that already departed the temple. So who's accepting your sacrifice. Those who continue to sacrifice now practice paganism. |
Religion / Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by SIRTee15: 5:58pm On Apr 29 |
AbuTwins: YHWH is Semitic, a word shared amongst people who speak the LEVANTINE languages. Canaanites and Edomites also called God YHWH but they don't speak Hebrew. The writing of YHWH or even it's vocalisation may differ by culture but the pronunciation and what it meant is the same. Even ancient Egyptians likely knew of YHWH by evidence of inscriptions resembling YHWH on their walls- a deity called YHWU. Just like mama and Baba are words for father and mother shared by hundreds of languages in the west African region and even in the world. My friend study hard. This place is not a joke. If U are not prepared to critic the bible don't start. Your knowledge of the bible and it's history is very shallow. |
Religion / Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by SIRTee15: 4:03pm On Apr 29 |
AbuTwins: YHWH IS NOT HEBREW. ANCIENT LEVANTINE KNEW OF A DEITY CALLED YHWH. YHWH is well known to Edomites, Canaan, Paran and Seir. These people never spoke Hebrew. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by SIRTee15: 3:59pm On Apr 29 |
AbuTwins: YHWH is not Hebrew but Semitic. Archeological Evidence abound which shows YHWH as a deity is known in ancient mesopotamian region. He's just not well known until Abraham came on stage. YHWH IS YHWH, the name has no alternative in any ancient language. As at the time the author of genesis was writing, that place was already known as Jehovahjireh meaning YHWH the provider. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by SIRTee15: 3:17pm On Apr 29 |
AbuTwins: That's why this verse is valid. At that time people began to call on the name of the LORD- YHWH It tells us when people started calling God YHWH. Did Abraham knew the name of God as YHWH or someone wrote for him. Genesis 22 14 And Abraham called the name of that place Jehovahjireh: as it is said to this day, In the mount of the LORD it shall be seen. If someone wrote for him, how was he able to name the site he was meant to sacrifice Isaac after YHWH? 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by SIRTee15: 3:08pm On Apr 29 |
AbuTwins: Delusion and denial in action. I really pity Muslims, they don't know how to get out of the fix Muhammed trapped them with. It's just pathetic. Right from the time of Adam, the prophets knew the name of God as YHWH. The only prophet who doesn't know the name of God that sent him was Muhammed. Muhammed couldn't tell us the name of God. Instead he gave a generic name for God in Arabic as the God of the bible. That's intellectual dishonesty and fraudulent behaviour. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by SIRTee15: 3:03pm On Apr 29 |
AbuTwins: Ohyoudidn't what should I do with abutwin. Advise me because I'm beginning to think he's not sincere. |
Religion / Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by SIRTee15: 3:01pm On Apr 29 |
Ohyoudidnt: Stop lying, Jesus did change how we worshipped when on earth. First, after the glory of the LORD departed the temple, the building became void. Anybody could enter the holy of holies and nothing would happen to them. In fact some Hellenistic Jews during the Seleucid period sacrificed pig on the altar in the temple and nothing happened to them. Jesus made it clear Jerusalem and the temple is no longer necessary for worship. Luke 21.5 Then, as some spoke of the temple, how it was adorned with beautiful stones and donations, Jesus said, 6 “These things which you see—the days will come in which not one stone shall be left upon another that shall not be thrown down.” John 4 19 The woman said to Him, “Sir, I perceive that You are a prophet. 20 Our fathers worshiped on this mountain, and you Jews say that in Jerusalem is the place where one ought to worship.” 21 Jesus said to her, “Woman, believe Me, the hour is coming when you will neither on this mountain, nor in Jerusalem, worship the Father. 22 You worship what you do not know; we know what we worship, for salvation is of the Jews. 23 But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him. 24 God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.” 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by SIRTee15: 2:51pm On Apr 29 |
AbuTwins: Na U sabi. If U like, kiss and lick the black stone next time U go to Mecca. But stop disturbing we Christians with your pagan practice. U failed woefully to back the idolatry with anything in our scriptures. Just worship your stone in peace and shut up. Besides U are yet to tell me the difference btw the 2 below 1 Like
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Religion / Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by SIRTee15: 12:25pm On Apr 29 |
AbuTwins: U want where first person speech abi. I will choke U. Genesis 9 26 Noah also said, “Praise be to the LORD-YHWH , the God of Shem! May Canaan be the slave of Shem. Genesis 4 4 Adam made love to his wife Eve, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Cain. She said, “With the help of the LORD- YHWH I have brought forth a man.” 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by SIRTee15: 11:15am On Apr 29 |
AbuTwins: YHWH, they called God YHWH. Genesis 4 25 Adam made love to his wife again, and she gave birth to a son and named him Seth, saying, “God has granted me another child in place of Abel, since Cain killed him.” 26 Seth also had a son, and he named him Enosh. At that time people began to call on the name of the LORD- YHWH. |
Religion / Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by SIRTee15: 11:06am On Apr 29 |
AbuTwins: 🥱🥱🥱 Show me where God or Moses told the people to worship the bronze snake or bow to it. It was simply a medium of healing just like the ephod, the staff of Moses, playing of harp or touching the helm of Jesus garment Let me educate U and put the bronze snake into context. When Israelites began burning incest to it or began to venerate it, see what the man of God did to the bronze snake. Hezekiah did right in the sight of the Lord, according to all that his father David had done. He removed the high places and broke down the sacred pillars and cut down the Asherah. He also broke in pieces the bronze serpent that Moses had made, for until those days the sons of Israel burned incense to it; and it was called Nehushtan. 2 Kings 18:3-4 This is what Muhammed should have done to the black stone if he was truly a prophet of God. Destroy it rather than tell his followers to bow before it. The harder U try, the worse your case and the deeper U sink. Bowing before the black stone or venerating it- kissing the black stone is paganism. Its indefensible. I just hope your eyes will open and will learn one or two things here. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: They Made Jesus God For Christians! by SIRTee15: 10:46am On Apr 29 |
AbuTwins: Old testament was written in Hebrew whilst new testament in greek. The lexicon, usage and application of word in both languages are different. How proskyneson could be applied is different from shachah. That's why I'm asking U why did Peter and the angel rejected worship- proskyneson within the realm it was applied whereas Jesus was collecting it up and down. That's my question, don't deviate. If U don't know, say I don't know. If U want to talk about worship in the old testament, open a thread for that and we will meet to give u some lectures in ancient Hebrew language. |
Religion / Re: They Made Jesus God For Christians! by SIRTee15: 10:27am On Apr 29 |
AbuTwins: Stop deviating from the question. My question is based on what's written in your Qur'an. If Jesus is indeed is the son of God, should he be worshipped? If Allah had a son, should the son be worshipped? Answer the question. |
Religion / Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by SIRTee15: 10:34pm On Apr 28 |
cjudy: So when God said a man and a woman will be united to become one, what does he mean? Western man introduced christianity is the most stupid thing that ever came out of ignorant fools. Show me one white man in the bible, just one and I will agree western men brought the bible. All his ranting yet couldn't quote one bible verse to buttress his point. |
Religion / Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by SIRTee15: 7:17pm On Apr 28 |
cjudy: Let's go back to the beginning and learn God's original purpose for marrigae.... Genesis 2 24 That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh That's why Jesus said... 8[i] Jesus replied, But it was not this way from the beginning. [/i] Divorce and polygamy was never God's original plan. The way some of u will burn in hell due to your selfish and immoral desires.... U will see black and white in the bible but will start looking for shades of colour to defend your immoral and careless lifestyle. Pray U don't end up like onan. |
Religion / Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by SIRTee15: 3:54pm On Apr 28 |
cjudy: Matthew 19.5 and Jesus said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’? 1 Like |
Religion / Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by SIRTee15: 3:50pm On Apr 28 |
IPIGSRSHALLOW: Show me where the bible says homosexuality if ok. Since the white man wrote the bible it should approve homosexuality. |
Culture / Re: Africa Is Not Primitive, We Just Prefer Our Ways - Charity Ekezie (Video) by SIRTee15: 2:30pm On Apr 28 |
Sladem05: So what's stopping Africa from learning science and technology from the west. Who's stopping us from developing advanced technology. Despite all the sanctions against Iran, they are almost self sufficient in refining capacity technology in oil and gas; and advanced drone technology. Libya built the largest underground aqueduct system known to man with local technology at a time they were hardest hit by sanctions. Sub Sahara africa had never been this sanctioned, so what's stopping us? |
Religion / Re: Thomas Called Jesus, My Lord And My God. Jesus Didn't Say, I Am Not God. by SIRTee15: 2:40am On Apr 28 |
Aemmyjah: So when the tanakh was translated to greek called the Septuagint, the name YHWH was substituted for kyrios meaning lord/master in greek. The new testament writers simply continued the tradition of using kyrios for LORD in their epistles. Another explanation is that by the time of the 2nd temple, the Jews had forgotten their original language which Hebrew and now speak Aramaic as the native language. Thus very few could pronounce the name YHWH properly. To prevent corruption of the word, the priests actively discouraged people from saying the name; and it's been said by the time of Jesus most, Jews had forgotten how to pronounce the name YHWH and they substituted it for other names of God like elaha, elohim or Adonai. That's why I'm asking maxindhouse to tell me the exact words used by Thomas when he said My Lord and my God, Layman like Thomas wouldn't be able to pronounce YHWH and would have called God by other names. |
Religion / Re: They Made Jesus God For Christians! by SIRTee15: 1:40am On Apr 28 |
AbuTwins: Let me ask U a question. According to the Koran, if Jesus is indeed the son of God, should he be worshipped?. |
Religion / Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by SIRTee15: 1:32am On Apr 28 |
AbuTwins: Now no need to go emotional. U were the one who came here claiming your pagan practice of bowing before a stone is validated by the bible. No need to start foaming if we use the same bible to cancel U out. All I'm saying is as an African man, U dont need to travel to Saudi arabia to venerate a stone, there are countless sacred stones in Africa that can do the same job like the one below... 1 Like
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Religion / Re: People, Stop Leaving Your Children In Church Care! (pic) by SIRTee15: 12:42pm On Apr 27 |
Please just say white men and child molestation. Thanks. |
Religion / Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by SIRTee15: 10:10am On Apr 27 |
AbuTwins: But U opened the bible to validate your pagan worship. Why did U refer the Christian to the bible and started quoting bible verses to explain idolatry practice in Mecca. Is that not where we Christians came in to show U no person in the bible bow to a temple void of God. Next time use the Qur'an to explain your pagan stone worship and we will leave u alone. Btw U are yet to explain to me the difference btw these 2 worship. Both venerate a stone to worship their deity, but one will call the other a pagan. Abu twin, help me make sense out of it. 1 Like
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Religion / Re: Abu Discussed With A Christian About Muslims Worshipping Kaaba by SIRTee15: 10:01am On Apr 27 |
AbuTwins: So it was satan that called Abraham from heaven and blessed him forever. It was any kind God that told Moses his name is I am that I am. Its any kind God that is called El Roi- the ever living one. U not making sense anymore. Abeg rest. 🥱🥱🥱 Go drink kunu, you will be fine. So this one is dusted. Let's move . 1 Like |
Travel / Re: Nigerian Couple Buys A House 2 And Half Years Of Moving To UK. by SIRTee15: 9:54am On Apr 27 |
Eriokanmi: Oga rest, Only 13,000 new cars were sold last year in naija. That's how depressing the new market is in naija. South Africa sold 300,000 new cars, Morocco - 140,000 while egypt- 130,000. That's why no car manufacturer is building anything in naija. Its also the reason imnoson and other domestic car assembly will struggle to breakthrough or become competitive enough to take on global car manufacturers. Without car loan, no country can have a viable car manufacturing sector. And don't make it look like Nigerians are rich enough to afford to pay for new car in full. They don't - Nigerians are poor, that's why only 13k new cars were sold last year. Note- I mentioned new cars and not used or tokunbo. So I really don't understand the pojnt of your bragging. https://www.focus2move.com/nigerian-cars-market/ 3 Likes |
Travel / Re: Nigerian Couple Buys A House 2 And Half Years Of Moving To UK. by SIRTee15: 7:10am On Apr 27 |
Digmygold: U are the very foolish one. Default or foreclosure, U get what U put in the house and the equity. The person renting gets nothing. Who's worse off. Mr penny wise pounds foolish. The wealth of white Americans today is deeply rooted in the generational property investment. Indians and Pakistani in UK understand the game and are buying properties like mad here. Yet some foolish ones are saying blacks should continue to rent. Are U not tired of being slaves to other races. What exactly is wrong with the black man...they can't think beyond their today. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Travel / Re: Nigerian Couple Buys A House 2 And Half Years Of Moving To UK. by SIRTee15: 7:04am On Apr 27 |
christopher123:Spewing ignorance with confidence. 1 Like |
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