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Religion / Re: What Was Wrong With Abubakar's Quran: Perfect Preservation Of The Quran by SIRTee15: 7:19pm On Apr 13
ahmedio2017:



God as father is not a biological father

I'm following Jesus Christ PBUH teachings mind you Jesus Christ PBUH didn't command or is not part of his teachings that we should believe him as God or God the son, and Jesus didn't propagated trinity i.e God in three parts...

There is no verse in the QUR'AN that contradicts any Jesus teachings

Jesus Christ didn't said he will die and be RAISED up in three days that's fallacies.
He only prayed that Peace be upon me the day I was born the day I WILL die and the day I WILL BE RESURRECTED.

You are following the teaching of ISA in the Qur'an not the teaching of Jesus of the bible.
Learn the difference
Celebrities / Re: Francesca Amewudah: Black Actors Condemn Racial Abuse Of Romeo, Juliet Star by SIRTee15: 7:18am On Apr 13
1Sharon:


It doesn't matter, theyre still black. And it doesn't matter if the characters are fictitious or historical. A characters race is relevant to their identity.

If these writers really cared about black people they'd create a new story involving mainly black characters. Black washing old white characters is lazy. If they cared, they won't slot you where you don't belong in someone's else's story.

There are many African stories/fairytales that they can develop to truly show their inclusivity and diversity.


Why should any black person with pride and feel happy about this?

Notice how they've been doing this alot lately? Aside black washing characters, they're remaking old movies. They've run out of ideas and they need a quick money grab.

Ancient Egyptians were not just dark skinned. They were a mixed racial group.of people. Not just black, not just white.


Then depicting white actors as ancient Egyptian is equally wrong no matter how hard they tan. I sense double standard here. Movies should portray the right characters in their roles. Descendants of ancient Egyptian still exist today.
Playing Gerard butler as an Egyptian in god's of Egypt is a big insult.

I repeat, if anyone has a problem with blackwashing white characters...they should channel their complaint to the right channel- the movie producers.
Actors should be left alone- they only hustling for their daily bread.

If a white man invites me to play Adolf Hitler in exchange for good money...why should I care whose feelings is gored. Its simply a job for me.

If U don't want to accept ancient Egyptians were dark skinned, that's fine but pictures don't lie. Ancient Egyptians painted themselves as very dark skin people. No amount of white washing would change that.

Celebrities / Re: Francesca Amewudah: Black Actors Condemn Racial Abuse Of Romeo, Juliet Star by SIRTee15: 2:31am On Apr 13
jamesversion:


Blacks should not partake in any deliberate sensationalism or revisionism by filmmakers because the whites/Asians whose culture are affected by such baseless film production will protest in whatever way they deem fit. Blacks should not put themselves in positions of ridicule because of economic gains
It is not worth it.

See talk. Black actors should go hungry because he has another job to give them.
Like we can control the mind of all black actors n they will all agree to reject revisionist movies.

Is it all white actors that agree to reject stereotypes villain roles in Chinese movies despite the objection protest by western media?
Some white actors still travel to china to act in movies portraying whites as bad people. These actors say there's nothing wrong in what they doing...to them it's just a job n a film.


U are so dull, your knowledge base is suboptimal n very superficial. U lack objectivity in your thinking.
What U need to do now is take a researched history
book about ancestors n read.
Celebrities / Re: Francesca Amewudah: Black Actors Condemn Racial Abuse Of Romeo, Juliet Star by SIRTee15: 12:13am On Apr 13
Maxcollins042:


Go and beat them. Let me be biko.

Next time learn to keep quiet about what U know nothing or little about.
Celebrities / Re: Francesca Amewudah: Black Actors Condemn Racial Abuse Of Romeo, Juliet Star by SIRTee15: 12:11am On Apr 13
Tellmeastory:


Bro, once these people turn slaves, they will find every and every way to justify their sense of inferiority.

Do you know what would have happened if this story was the exact reverse, ie a white woman played Queen Amina of Zaria or something, and blacks had started protesting against that?

These same people here would have attacked the BLACKS complaining and accused them of being too 'sensitive'', always focusing on race, skin colour etc etc.

Think about it. You know it's true.

They're wired to self-hate.

Programmed like a clock.

It doesn't matter how the story goes, they will ALWAYS be against the black side.

And these are so-called blacks. ''Africans''.

They are a real disgrace.


I remember when fans of a German club complained that the team is too foreign due to so many black players and the story made frontpage on nairaland.

I pointed here that the black players are German and not foreigners.
Some idiots here said it doesn't matter, that the fan is right to complain.
I was shocked. So what should German FA do, ban black German players from playing football or what.

Amazingly the foreigners in the team were players from other white countries not Africa.
Some useless ones here still supported the fan saying he's right.

There's something genetically wrong with the black man's brain.
He's wired to feel inferior to other race
Celebrities / Re: Francesca Amewudah: Black Actors Condemn Racial Abuse Of Romeo, Juliet Star by SIRTee15: 12:05am On Apr 13
1Sharon:


Yes you're right. White people have been playing ancient Egyptians but if you look closer. They made an effort, they darkened their skin slightly to look tanned. And ancient Egypt wasn't just black or white, it was a mixture of different races.

But blacks who play these white characters are also portrayed as European. They wear european dress, have white mannerisms and culture. The problem is whites don't want to look beyond the skin colour.

As I said, If whites have problem with blacks playing white role. They should direct their complaints to right
Channel - white movie producer.

The attack on these black actors is becoming extreme. They nearly killed the confidence of Halle Bailey when she played little mermaid.

If it were black producers doing the nonsense, I will understand. That's why I said nothing when whites attacked the black Cleopatra in the docudrama about Cleopatra. The producer was Jada Pickett who should know better than portray Cleopatra as a black woman.
Cleopatra is of greek ancestry.

Finally, do not be deceived....ancient Egyptians are dark skinned. Their complexion is very similar to modern day Ethiopians.

Their hair textures can only be seen among African descents. The evidence is clear- ancient Egyptian women depicted in drawings always wear braids.

Celebrities / Re: Francesca Amewudah: Black Actors Condemn Racial Abuse Of Romeo, Juliet Star by SIRTee15: 11:23pm On Apr 12
Maxcollins042:


Na Asians dey whine say White people no suppose Cleopatra? Romeo and Juliet na white characters and fans of these fictional characters want it to remain that way. Simple.

All Cleopatra movie has always depicted her as white.

The only one that depicted her as black- docudrama by Jada Pickett led to an uproar on social media.

If fans want Romeo and Juliet as whites, then they should direct their grievance to the appropriate quarter- movie producer.

I don't even get U, are U saying it's ok to insult and make racist remarks against black actors because they played a role they were given.

Are U even ok? If they want them to remain whites, the right way is to attack the actors...how does that even change anything.

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Celebrities / Re: Francesca Amewudah: Black Actors Condemn Racial Abuse Of Romeo, Juliet Star by SIRTee15: 11:02pm On Apr 12
jamesversion:


The Romans introduced Christianity to Whites. Like the Romans aren't white themselves. grin


The Romans never considered themselves Europeans, they regard themselves as Mediterranean alongside north Africans and Phoenicians the middle east coast.
Romans never regard themselves same as the barbarians in mainland Europe.
They civilised Europe because they were backwards bunch according to Romans.

jamesversion:

The middles eaterners aren't white, they are coloured. Lolz. cheesy



FYI, there are 3 primary classes of Race. Caucasoid aka white, Negroid aka Blacks and Mongoloid aka Yellow people. Every thing else is a variation of the 3.
So an Indian is what? Mongoloid or Caucasoid? What about native Americans, which race will U classify them.
U better read more b4 spewing nonsense here online.

jamesversion:

Christianity belongs to Africa yet your ancestors were worshipping Amadioha and they were living in mud houses and wearing loin clothes when the whites met them in Africa.
Where did I say Christianity belongs to Africans. If U have comprehension problem, U better improve your English language skills.
jamesversion:

No civilisation, no school.system. They have no invention for themselves. They know next to nothing about science neither nor technology. You saw in the bible that Paul was a lawyer. If Africans were the ones in the bible with such advanced society in the time of Jesus, why was your village a jungle in 1880.

See this big fool who doesnt even know his own race or people.
See how distortion of historical facts in our education books has turned this one into a mental slave to the white race.
He doesnt even know west Africa had a university b4 UK could think of building their first university which is Oxford. There was a time west African biggest export to the rest of the world was books written in the university. People came as far as Baghdad to buy books written in west Africa.

If U ask the ode, he will tell U the only thing we export to Europe was slave. FYI, in the first 100 yrs contact with the white man, west African biggest export to europe was textiles, glass and soap. Yes U heard right textiles and soap and this was more than 400 yrs ago.
Some European countries had to ban imports of soap from west Africa to help with survival of their own soap industry.

Benin empire's currency was accepted as medium of exchange for trade in far away Morocco. When the Portuguese first visited Benin , they noted the roads were paved and they had street lights- this was in the 15th century.

Yet this big fool had the audacity to spit on his ancestors.

jamesversion:

Abeg. I'm done with this conversation cos its beginning to piss me off.

Get out here, U are a big disgrace to your ancestors. One would expect someone to at least learn what they did b4 insulting them online.
Lazy fool. Black man forming woke for white man.

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Celebrities / Re: Francesca Amewudah: Black Actors Condemn Racial Abuse Of Romeo, Juliet Star by SIRTee15: 10:12pm On Apr 12
Maxcollins042:


Explain why their whitewashing met backclashes?

because whites can't take what they dish out to others.

Since they ve been playing ancient Egyptians white, did U see any African crying?

As I said the whiners should face the movie producers who are whites and leaves black actors alone- they are simply looking for their daily bread.

if I'm an actor and they tell me to come and play king Arthur, U think I will refuse?
What's my own.

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Celebrities / Re: Francesca Amewudah: Black Actors Condemn Racial Abuse Of Romeo, Juliet Star by SIRTee15: 9:18pm On Apr 12
jamesversion:


Blacks should not partake in any deliberate sensationalism or revisionism by filmmakers because the whites/Asians whose culture are affected by such baseless film production will protest in whatever way they deem fit. Blacks should not put themselves in positions of ridicule because of economic gains
It is not worth it.

And how did you know Jesus was black? Wow, what an effrontery from someone who the whites introduced Christianity to his/her ancestors.

The whites introduced Christianity to you and you're saying that Jesus is black. You're teaching them the religion that they gave you. Oh Goodness me!!! grin grin

Abeg, talk about African religion, atleast you will points for originality.

Its so obvious U not only naive but highly ignorant. What if whites introduced Christianity to west Africa...so?
The Romans also introduced Christianity to whites.
Ethiopians were Christians long before any white man embraced Christianity.

This idea that Christianity belongs to white people is so nauseating and disgusting. It shows people don't read and don't think deep.
FYI, There's no single white man in the bible. Yes U heard me right.
No single blond hair, blue eyes character in the bible. Instead there are over 20 bible characters that are black.
Abraham's wife Hagar, Moses wife zopporah and David's 2 wives were all black.
The person that helped jesus carried his cross was an African.

And your knowledge of geography should tell U it's impossible for a middle eastern character to be white when all ethnic groups around him are coloured.

So how can Christianity be a white's man religion when no white man is mentioned in the scripture that profess the faith.

U are simply a victim of Hollywood propaganda brainwashing technique. They have painted all bible characters as white and U foolishly swallowed it.

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Celebrities / Re: Francesca Amewudah: Black Actors Condemn Racial Abuse Of Romeo, Juliet Star by SIRTee15: 7:08pm On Apr 12
jamesversion:


Your type dont see anything wrong if Lupita Nyong'o plays snow white.

With you, anything goes.

If Walt Disney decides to cast snow white as Lupita Nyongo, what's my business. Walt Disney is a white owned company, they can do what they like with their business and movie.
Attack Walt Disney and leave Lupita Nyongo alone she's just looking for what to eat.

Whites have been playing Jesus Christ and ancient Egyptian in their movies for donkey years.
When we know Jesus is a coloured man and ancient Egyptians were dark skin people.
Have U ever complained about that? But all over of a sudden wants to foam over a fictional character given to a black person.

Pls if U have serious inferiority complex issue, deal with it personally and don't rub it on others

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Celebrities / Re: Francesca Amewudah: Black Actors Condemn Racial Abuse Of Romeo, Juliet Star by SIRTee15: 6:59pm On Apr 12
Tellmeastory:


Exactly. You are very intelligent.

Don't mind all these woke forming blacks with poor sense of history.
Hollywood has been portraying Jesus and ancient Israelites as whites when we know they were coloured people.

Ancient Egyptians were coloured blacks with skin tone close to present day Ethiopians.
Yet all ancient Egypt movies in Hollywood always have European white characters.

And Romeo and juliet is fictional. Its played all over the world by different ethnicity. So what the fuse?
And some foolish naive blacks are supporting such racist attack.

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Celebrities / Re: Francesca Amewudah: Black Actors Condemn Racial Abuse Of Romeo, Juliet Star by SIRTee15: 6:49pm On Apr 12
Goddyrichie:
ogun kill u papa 👴 I don’t know why we black hate to hear d truth I’m a fans of d white cuz if they do to our fore’s father many years ago steal our resource even till now they’re still stealing indirectly through our government but let’s say d truth we Africans we don’t love ourselves South Africa 🇿🇦 don’t want to see a Nigerian any little thing we kill each other they send us back to our country and kill our people same as our Ghanaian people let me ask u a question have u ever see a Canadian citizen do that to American b4 no but it’s we d black African always even here in our own Nigeria Hausa don’t want to see ibo a little thing Hausa kill ibo or ibo kill Hausa same as Yoruba in d same country o have u ever hear someone from Pennsylvania in USA do that or kill someone from West Virginia USA b4 no but it will only be we d black people but we complain alot when it comes to d white people

U are just talking shit out of profound ignorance.
Whites don't like themselves. They only unite when they want to gang up against blacks.

Canada invaded USA and burnt down the white house in 1822.
World war 1 and 2 was fought by whites due to battle for ethnic supremacy in Europe.
Whey do U think British voted Brexit...U think it's.because of blacks? They wanted the eastern white European to leave their country. Brexit has nothing to do with blacks.

White only unite and become one when it comes to black issue.

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Celebrities / Re: Francesca Amewudah: Black Actors Condemn Racial Abuse Of Romeo, Juliet Star by SIRTee15: 6:37pm On Apr 12
Maxcollins042:


The characters shouldn't be black-washed. That's what they are simply agitating for. Blacks won't be happy if Black Panther or any black-centric film character is portrayed by a white. We cried foul when Cleopatra was whitewashed and they are doing same for theirs.

Do unto others what you want done to you. It's as simple as ABC.

Then explain why ancient Egyptian are played as whites in movies.

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Celebrities / Re: Francesca Amewudah: Black Actors Condemn Racial Abuse Of Romeo, Juliet Star by SIRTee15: 6:36pm On Apr 12
1Sharon:
They should stop black washing historically white characters though undecided


Sharon don't fall for these micro aggressive racist attacks.
Whites have been playing ancient Egyptians as far as I can remember when we all know ancient Egyptians are not white and possibly black.


If real people who were definitely coloured black can be made white on TV. Then what's the noise about fictional character.

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Celebrities / Re: Francesca Amewudah: Black Actors Condemn Racial Abuse Of Romeo, Juliet Star by SIRTee15: 6:33pm On Apr 12
Avedonn:


Tarzan is also a white man story about white couples dying and living their infant baby in the jungle.

Then explain how Jesus became white in all Hollywood movies.
Because last time I checked, there's no blue eye, blond hair white character in the bible.

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Celebrities / Re: Francesca Amewudah: Black Actors Condemn Racial Abuse Of Romeo, Juliet Star by SIRTee15: 6:28pm On Apr 12
jamesversion:
The whites have every right to protest such vain revisionism.

Na Which day wey Shakespeare Juliet turn black. grin

Juliet is a fictional character and can be played by any body and anywhere.

Besides, if whites have problem with the revisionist propaganda ongoing in Hollywood, they should attack the movie companies OWNED BY WHITES casting these roles as black and leave black actors alone.

Some of u blacks no just get sense. Is it the girl that forced the role on herself. What should she have done when given the role? Reject it as in wetin happen.

That was how they ganged up against Halle Bailey when she played Ariel in Little mermaid. They claimed the movie will suffer poor revenue because they played a black girl as the mermaid. The movie went on to make 564 million dollars in box office.

I don't care if liberal woke whites decide to cast Tonto Dike as princess Diana in their next movie. Whites who have a problem with such should attack the right quarters and leave blacks looking for daily bread alone.

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Religion / Re: Exploring The Possibility Of God Physically Drinking Tea With Man by SIRTee15: 9:08pm On Apr 11
bobestman:
That is not the truth bro but how you understood it. Scripture was clear that no man can see God. You can see some parts like Moses but not his face let alone having tea with him lol. In the OT many mistook angels as God and even bow to them. If the angels don't correct them, they will write it as God. So it is God that became an angel and fought with Jacob? You know they wrote it as God. The one they called Lord among those angels is the SON OF MAN or son of God Almighty

Study theophany and Anthropomorphism. Your answer U looking for will be clear to U.

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Romance / Re: Let's Share Our Ex Knacking Experiences by SIRTee15: 4:28pm On Apr 11
post=129385549:


@pupanchy
Product of useless upbringing. No wonder u talking sex with an ex at old age.
Your only achievement in life is sex with an ex. No wonder it meant to so much U had to come to nairaland and masturba.te on it.
A big fool at 40 who doesn't know he's now a fool forever.

Romance / Re: Let's Share Our Ex Knacking Experiences by SIRTee15: 4:27pm On Apr 11
Celebrities / Re: The Other Side Of Life: The Movie That Took Junior Pope's Life by SIRTee15: 2:38pm On Apr 11
oluwaseyi0:
Useless blogger have started, no movie took his life

It's his own stupidity, coupled with his fellow Nigerian stupidity that took his life

1) he enter overcrowded boat without life jackets in a huge water body (self stupidity, he's not a kid)

2) after boat capsized no diver or emergency rescuer in sight (system stupidity)

3) when he was finally rescued no CPR or mouth to mouth breathing was done (another society stupidity)

4) he was taken to mortuary, thank goodness he is not a Muslim he will have been taking to burial site straight away

5) after mortuary rejection he was taken to a juju place rather than hospital or CPR (another dysfunctional religious brain set of society)

6) finally been dragged to the hospital it's too late and guy man finally succumbed, guess there is so many things 'Jesus cannot do'

7) his young family is about to be robbed of his body as they are claiming his body must be buried in an unknown riverside (just imagine this same set of people are alive when Mary Slessor want to stop killing of twins, they will have fought vehemently against it and claimed killing of twins is a tradition that must never ever end

Why did U bring Jesus into the matter now.
U must be very sick in the brain.
Romance / Re: Let's Share Our Ex Knacking Experiences by SIRTee15: 1:33pm On Apr 11
Pupanchy:
Can we share any sexual experiences we had with our ex, mine that l could remember back in those days r many but Ronke is a bad girl that no where we can't do it most especially in their compound, staircase, mum's bed, sis bed, kitchens, bathroom, toilet etc, though she's married now but l don't feel like talking to her anymore because a little light can ignite a woman arousal.

At this your age U no still get sense.
Abi no be U beard full all him face. Still talking about sex with an ex.
Religion / Re: Please, I Need Muslims To Answer These 4 Questions by SIRTee15: 1:39am On Apr 11
Lukuluku69:


In Christianity, I am afraid you are all brainwashed.

Lol

Yes we have had discussion in the past and I can confidently say all your exegesis were from position of ignorance and misinterpretation of sacred Text.

Well I remember I used the word Wereydinho but for completeness why not include the words you used too?

Muslims are invading Europe? Really? Well, you are free to believe what you choose to believe. You have every right to that but it is simply laughable to think and believe that the Almighty Europe and America are allowing Muslims to invade them.

Simply laughable.



I wouldn't say u guys are brainwashed. I will say u guys are either ignorant of your religion OR some of you like yourself chose to put your head in the sand and simply refuse to drag it out. Like TenQ use to say, dont confuse me the truth, I'm aware of it already- I just dont want to accept it.

For one thing, I can confidently say that 99.99% of educated muslims know that God did not dictate the koran. At least I'm sure those among u that went to university including u Lukuluku know for certain its a lie- koran is not the direct word of God.
Just studying the biography of Muhmammed and the manner he receives revelation gives it out clearly- the guy just manipulated everything.

How can someone commit murder during the time of peace. A murder that led to massive outcry even amongst the muslim population of mecca and medina that people began to doubt the prophethood of Muhammed. Faced with losing face by admitting his error, Muhammad went into his hut and emerged with a convenient revelation "from Allah" that it's justified to ignore peace treaty and kill during the sacred months so long as muslims are denied entry into kabba.
Common man, how convenient was that verse...does it even make sense. How can God make such ridiculous statement.
Muhammed even said Allah revealed to him- murder and to slaughter is more acceptable than being persecuted.
I'm sure Lukuluku will deny any religious leader who makes such careless statement today.
That's why I said u guys just wants your head in the sand. simple.

I keep saying this and I will repeat it here...
An ex christian is someone who doesnt understand Christianity and decides to leave while
An ex muslim is someone who understands Islam and left the dangerous religion.
Religion / Re: Please, I Need Muslims To Answer These 4 Questions by SIRTee15: 12:51am On Apr 11
Lukuluku69:


It is an open secret that a thorough brainwashing exercise are usually embarked upon your young ones right from an early age.

Sunday School.

Cramming the Whole Quran is called Learning and not Brainwashing.

Jesus said Hear O Israel the Lord your God is One but what do you tell your young ones from early age? Lol

If you want to know the words you used on that Thread, feel free to revisit the Thread.

As for Europe and Islam believe what you want to, it doesn't change the Reality on ground that Europeans and Americans are coming to Islam in droves. Even Latin America




I just dont understand this new habit of ascribing European converts joining Islam as evidence of truth. FYI, Islam is not new to european continent, its only new to western europe.
Albania, montenegro, Bulgaria, Bosnia-Herzegovenia, Macedonia and kosovo all have significant muslim population for centuries. It doesn't change anything about Islam and I dont understand how few thousands joining in france or UK will change anything. except u muslims are secret admirers of whites or something.

Europeans are generally curious being and are very much open to new ideology. The largest followers of new African spirituality are white people. If we reform our Yoruba religion and modernise it, white will become adherents in droves. They already find our Parthenon intriguing and lots of them ask questions about it online.
If u see the way the black man is denigrated in the media, one will expect the last person to date a black man will be the white woman, yet the highest interracial marriage in the west is btw the black man and white woman. That's just who they are- curious being.
In the 1990s, whites were travelling to far east in droves to practice budhism and spiritual meditation, I guess they became bored and abandoned it.
Islam is the new fad, the new toy though I admit the Moral degeneracy in the west also has a role to play and the failure of Christianity to live up to expectation esp in Europe.
That's why Islam fails to thrive in non-muslim regions with strong conservative background like far east, India, Latin America and sub Sahara Africa.
Romance / Re: Why I Cannot Be A Muslim - by SIRTee15: 6:07pm On Apr 09
Bliztzer:



Jesus while he was on earth didn't even speak Hebrew, he spoke aramaic.

So how was he able to read the scriptural scrolls in the synagogue.
because the new testament confirmed Jesus read from the scrolls.
Mind U, the Jewish scrolls are written in Hebrew.
Romance / Re: Why I Cannot Be A Muslim - by SIRTee15: 5:52pm On Apr 09
ednut1:
the ifa worshippers who are descendants of slaves taken 200 years ago still use Yoruba for incantations

What's the potency of their liturgical chants.
Have U ever seen them invoke sango and the deity responded.
Its the same thing, it's meaningless reciting phrases u don't understand.
Candombe even incorporate some elements of catholic tradition into their practice.
Abeg those ones are just playing.
The religion is called new African spirituality and it's just more of celebration of culture than anything else.
Religion / Re: How Christianity Moved Away From Monotheism; The Difference From Arianism by SIRTee15: 1:09pm On Apr 09
Ohyoudidnt:


Gross display of ineptitude and ignorance. I gave you a test and surely you fail. You keep failing. I said identify, did you specifically?



You don't get it and unless Allah wills you never will.

The concept of the Holy Trinity, which refers to the Christian belief in one God existing in three persons - Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, has its roots in ancient pagan religions.

The trinity is not a unique concept introduced by Christianity, but rather borrowed and adapted from earlier pagan beliefs. In ancient Egypt, the deity Horus was often depicted as the son of the god Osiris and the goddess Isis, forming a trinity of sorts. Similarly, in ancient Babylon, the trinity of Ishtar, Sin, and Shamash represented the mother, father, and son.


Is that why Koran made Mary the wife of Allah and Isa the son

And talking about copying ancient practice.
Who were the pilgrims visiting kabba every year to circumbulate it b4 Muhammed told Muslims to copy
the the tradition

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Romance / Re: Why I Cannot Be A Muslim - by SIRTee15: 12:03pm On Apr 09
ednut1:
you only want to make yourself feel good. Most of the religions in the world today use the original language where they originated. Some things are lost in translation. Your cannot translate Yoruba incarnations to English for example. In summary i support Muslims using Arabic shikena. Same way i support Hindus doing same

Yeah makes sense if the religion is restricted to it's native speakers.
How many Muslims understand the Arabic they cram. How many of them can speak Arabic fluently, I engage them regularly here, U will be surprised I know more english Koranic verses than majority of them.

Few white people I know that do Yoruba incantations actually lived in Yoruba land for years and indoctrinated themselves properly into the Yoruba culture b4 making incantations or consulting ifa oracle.
That's how it should be done. Not sitting down in Lagos and cramming a book written in foreign language u have no clue about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87wB6wse6CA?si=uzkWl0Ii4PBoBWd5

Btw, We have the Hebrew bible with us today. We also have the Aramaic new testament and koine greek NT with us.
So it's not like the native language is lost anywhere. We do have them with us, it's not just important for us to start cramming it when U don't even speak the language
Makes no sense.
Romance / Re: Why I Cannot Be A Muslim - by SIRTee15: 10:30am On Apr 09
ednut1:
true faith indeed that they white man used it to justify slavery and also colonized us. There is nothing like true faith abeg rest. The bible was written and edited after Jesus died . So how can you be sure of what Jesus advocated for language wise. The religion of were he was from still use their own language wherever they are( jews).

Christianity that was cooked by unknown men in rome/ Vatican . Keep consoling yourself o

No need to go emotional bro. Its obvious U ve not don't your due diligence on this topic and just repeating the stale narratives flying around.

I just don't understand how people keep associating white man to the bible when there's no blue eyes and blong hair character in the bible. Yes U heard me, no white European character in the bible but I can show U at least 20 black people mentioned in the bible including Abraham, moses and David's wives!!!


The white man didn't use the bible to colonise anybody just like the Romans didn't use the bible to colonise the native English people or any Germania tribe.
They used power and might. The mighty will always feed on the weak.

The white man didn't preach bible to anybody in exchange for slaves. Greed and stupidity on African tribes played a bigger part.
To let U know the white man didn't use the bible to justify slavery, they actually gave a different bible to the slaves.
They slavers knew if they give the true bible to slaves, they will automatically realise they shouldnt be in chians.

Christianity cooked in Rome and salted in Vatican na propaganda. That can work on a Christian who has poor knowledge of early church history.
I have debunked atheist multiple times here on their ignorance and propaganda. We can discuss church history in the 1st century sometime in the future.

I actually researched Christianity properly b4 making a decision to join the faith- Both textual and historical research and the more I dig deep, the more it's obvious Christianity is the truth.

U can start by reading something called the Corinthians creed to know if what we claim is actually the truth.

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Romance / Re: Why I Cannot Be A Muslim - by SIRTee15: 9:19am On Apr 09
ednut1:
Jesus didn’t speak English, Spanish, Portuguese or Russian tho. If for example oyo empire was the one who colonized the world and we spread our religion. Does it make sense to read incantations in English assuming we conquered England. Hell no

I’m not a Christian or Muslim tho

That's what make Christianity the true faith and not ifa religion.
U should be able to communicate with the supreme and universal deity in any language since he created them all.
How can U say the only way to communicate with a universal God who created all languages is thru a specific language otherwise he won't hear u. It doesn't make sense.

It shows the religion is a tribal one that was elevated to a global level via whatever means.

Christianity dont have this problem because neither Jesus nor his disciples advocated for a liturgical language for worship. One of the reason I believe it's from God.
Romance / Re: Why I Cannot Be A Muslim - by SIRTee15: 7:43am On Apr 09
ednut1:
Did Jesus speak English?? The Europeans are also using it to promote their own language no be so?

What do U mean by above. There are millions of Christians who can't utter a word in English, they are no less Christians than English speaking Christians.

U fall my hand by this analogy sha.
Religion / Re: How Christianity Moved Away From Monotheism; The Difference From Arianism by SIRTee15: 12:29am On Apr 08
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