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Religion / Re: Jesus Vs Paul 5 - Forgiveness Of Sins? by SIRTee15: 9:56pm On Jul 28 |
sonmvayina: If interpretation of the tanakh has never changed, then explain why ancient jewish rabbi believed Isaiah 53 is about a messiah that will die for the sins but modern jews says it's about Israel. how come we have two different interpretation for same verse in same religion. |
Religion / Re: Jesus Vs Paul 5 - Forgiveness Of Sins? by SIRTee15: 9:48pm On Jul 28 |
sonmvayina: Then allow me to show u what ancient jewish rabbi who compiled the tanakh believed about hosea 6.1-2. this were jews who lived b4 Jesus was even born. If u not scared and u beleive the interpretation of tanakh has never changes, then allow me to show u interpretation of the ancient jewish rabbi |
Religion / Re: Jesus Vs Paul 5 - Forgiveness Of Sins? by SIRTee15: 8:17pm On Jul 28 |
sonmvayina: Are U now afraid of what ancient rabbinical believe about their scriptures. Are U scared it will destroy your erroneous beliefs? Modern day Jews have been lying to U. Wake up. |
Religion / Re: Jesus Vs Paul 5 - Forgiveness Of Sins? by SIRTee15: 7:18pm On Jul 28 |
sonmvayina: What if I show U that ancient rabbinical Jews b4 Christ believed the verse was about someone who died and resurrected on the 3rd day. They explained the verse as a Man who died and God raised him up on the 3rd day. They just weren't sure of the identity of the man. |
Religion / Re: Olympics Organisers Apologise To Christians Over 'Last Supper' Gaffe by SIRTee15: 7:15pm On Jul 28 |
dtruth50: Nothing.... But I saw your message calling Christians cowards and stuff like that bocs they protest on social media. At least, russian foreign minister condemned it. That's not a faceless identity. People can protest anyhow they feel like and can make reference to double standard in religious approach. It's far better than carrying knife and looking for Olympic committee members to stab to death. That's my point. U came here and started instigating people to be violent in their protest like Muslims. That's why I said U should calm down. |
Religion / Re: Jesus Vs Paul 5 - Forgiveness Of Sins? by SIRTee15: 6:52pm On Jul 28 |
sonmvayina: Don't run away. Explain the verse. What do U think. I will like to know your opinion. |
Religion / Re: Jesus Vs Paul 5 - Forgiveness Of Sins? by SIRTee15: 6:23pm On Jul 28 |
sonmvayina: Travel to the land of beyond, then Go and argue with ancient jewish rabbi who died holding on to that belief. Even the link u brought here admitted the verse could be about a messiah dying for the sin of the world. I think we done here, the truth cannot be changed. u free to embrace it or reject it. Now as regards Christ dying and resurrecting in 3 days- read hosea 6.1-2, let me open your eyes to another truth. |
Religion / Re: Olympics Organisers Apologise To Christians Over 'Last Supper' Gaffe by SIRTee15: 5:54pm On Jul 28 |
dtruth50: guy calm. killing a life over a Lord's supper picture that didnt originate from christ himself makes no sense to me. Leornado da vinci painted the picture and has always been controversial anyway. That doesnt stop people from expressing their displeasure if they feel what the olympic organisers did offend their beliefs. Same reason I support the ongoing worldwide protest support for palestinian freedom. This is far better and more moral than driving a plane into a skyscraper or bombing up Christians or engaging in other terrorist acts to pass a message. killing a life over a cause defeats the purpose of religion itself. Muslims should know nobody has a monopoly of violence- Christians were equally violently intolerant in the past but eventually presented a more docile form of their religion in the last 100 yrs. There are multiple ways of resolving disputes or perceived violence other than shedding unnecessary blood. |
Religion / Re: Jesus Vs Paul 5 - Forgiveness Of Sins? by SIRTee15: 3:11pm On Jul 28 |
sonmvayina: Guy rest, U don't know more than Jewish rabbi who said the same thing for over a thousand years. The passage is about the Messiah who's coming to die for the sin of the world. |
Religion / Re: Jesus Vs Paul 5 - Forgiveness Of Sins? by SIRTee15: 2:16pm On Jul 28 |
sonmvayina: Even the link u brought admit the passage could be about a Messiah who will die for the sins of the people , it only argued it's not Jesus Christ. Look here I'm an open guy. If U tell me Isaiah 53 isn't about Jesus, maybe I will listen to U and we can have a debate about it. But to tell me isaiah 53 isn't about a Messiah who will die for the transgression of the world is being unnecessary obstinate and I will simply ignore U. |
Religion / Re: See Evidences Of Differences Between The Warsh Quran And The Hafs Quran by SIRTee15: 1:25pm On Jul 28 |
Qasim6: So Qur'an recitation is no longer letter for letter, word for word anymore. |
Religion / Re: See Evidences Of Differences Between The Warsh Quran And The Hafs Quran by SIRTee15: 1:23pm On Jul 28 |
ahmedio2017: So question is... someone who memorised the Walsh quran, is he allowed to recite it in the amongst those who memorised the hafs quran. Will he be corrected multiple times when those pronouns and adjectives don't correlate. |
Religion / Re: See Evidences Of Differences Between The Warsh Quran And The Hafs Quran by SIRTee15: 1:21pm On Jul 28 |
Qasim6: So Qur'an is no longer word for word dictation of Allah anymore. Abi Allah dictated twice to Muhammed. U people go change goalpost tire. Pericope aldultrae and 1 John 5.7 interpolation.is only found in translation that came from the Latin vulgate eg KJV. Translation from codex sinaticus don't have it. Also the Peshitta, Coptic, gothic, Armenian and Ethiopian bible- the garima gospel don't have it. The word of God in the bible hasn't been changed. |
Business / Re: Dangote: End Of The Road For A Monopolist? By Soji Adekunmbi by SIRTee15: 7:07pm On Jul 27 |
flokii: So are U saying dangote is not refining fuel but using back door to import fuel into the country? Is that what U saying ? |
Business / Re: Dangote: End Of The Road For A Monopolist? By Soji Adekunmbi by SIRTee15: 1:22pm On Jul 27 |
So according to the writer, it's better for FG to be subsidising fuel from foreign countries than fuel produced locally Whether we like it or not, FG will continue to subside fuel for a very long time to come. If the writer believes it's better for the cash crunch FG to send our money abroad, then I won't blame people who insults Yoruba people as elenu meji. |
Politics / Re: GEJ Gave Dangote, Others Too Much Waivers, Destroyed Small Businesses – Yesufu by SIRTee15: 2:04pm On Jul 24 |
Zwooks: Keep supporting your clueless and incompetent Tinubu. Same abrupt and disastrous decision he made with floating the naira and ending fuel subsidy is what he's about to make again. Know this now, if that refinery goes down, lots of banks are going down with it. Banks recklessly loaned dangote billions of dollars tied to that refinery. If that refinery crash and we continue to import fuel, the naira is crashing with it. The fate of Nigerian economy is tied to the viability of that refinery. If that refinery fails, Nigerian economy will continue to suffer until another refinery comes up maybe in 5-7 yrs time. Tinubu should lay aside his greed and selfishness, he should continue where previous govt stopped and ensure the refinery is completed. The govt can buy out more stakes in the refinery or even make if public and bring in other investors to end Dangote's monopoly, BUT THAT REFINERY MUST WORK. WAITING FOR ANOTHER REFINERY TO COME ON BOARD IS NOT AN ALTERNATIVE. NIGERIA HAS WAITED TOO LONG FOR THIS REFINERY AND NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO START QUESTIONING MONOPOLISTIC TENDENCIES OF DANGOTE. IT'S TOO LATE FOR THAT NOW. 1 Like |
Politics / Re: GEJ Gave Dangote, Others Too Much Waivers, Destroyed Small Businesses – Yesufu by SIRTee15: 1:51pm On Jul 24 |
malali: So we should continue to import fuel? because that's the only feasible alternative. If govt have issue with dangote, they should buy out the refinery or make it public n bring other investors. But that refinery must work. Enough of fuel importation. 1 Like |
Politics / Re: GEJ Gave Dangote, Others Too Much Waivers, Destroyed Small Businesses – Yesufu by SIRTee15: 1:47pm On Jul 24 |
Biodun556: Idiots like U is the reason some fools insults Yoruba. Dangote that U previously said he's God sent, all of a sudden is asking for too much Elenu meji, neither here nor there. Next time, just say I'm for tinubu's incompetent government. any direction Tinubu's govt face, na that direction me too face. Nobody will kill U for being honest and supporting your belly. 1 Like |
Politics / Re: GEJ Gave Dangote, Others Too Much Waivers, Destroyed Small Businesses – Yesufu by SIRTee15: 1:40pm On Jul 24 |
spiSeyi: So we should wait another 5 or 10 yrs for others to build refinery b4 we end importation of fuel. Don't worry naira go reach 5000 per dollar by then. Then we will see the foolishness of leaders u supporting as they impoverish the masses due to their greed. Dangote refinery must work now. Either they allow him do his job or buy it out and make it work. Nigeria can't wait for another donkey years for others to build refinery . 1 Like |
Education / Re: Graduate Kneels Before Her Idols And Gives Thanks (photos) by SIRTee15: 12:24pm On Jul 23 |
adeniyi65: I agree with U that any theist that cannot explain his belief is practicing occultism. Christianity isn't occultism thus our belief has logical and intelligent explanation. Nothing is mysterious about Christianity or it's doctrines. Not trinity, redemption by blood, significance of the Messiah, or christophany. The later is what U questioning here... That some Christians cannot explain it doesn't make it a mystery. The issue is most Christians embrace the faith for spiritual reasons, they care less about the theology. Thus when U throw theological questions at them, they struggle. I was almost becoming an agnostic myself but I delved into the theological world of Christianity, studied the philosophical thoughts of the early church fathers and Christian metaphysics. Trust me when I say the christian faith is the most reasonable and logical amongst all. Everything in our belief system is based on solid metaphysical concepts that can be traced directly back to God Almighty himself. None of our core belief is man made. Finally know this...A God cannot die, it's impossible for a god to die. The application of death to a God makes no sense because a God is not bound by the law of nature amongst living things - MR NIGER D. Therefore, the premise of your question is wrong and that's because U don't understand christophany. |
Education / Re: Graduate Kneels Before Her Idols And Gives Thanks (photos) by SIRTee15: 4:03am On Jul 23 |
Omoawoke: U are the dumbest of all fools. Ordinary simple writing of less than 500 words, U cant comprehend. Where did I say Christianity started in Africa. |
Education / Re: Graduate Kneels Before Her Idols And Gives Thanks (photos) by SIRTee15: 4:01am On Jul 23 |
adeniyi65: Can we have a discussion on this .. First let me know if U are a theist or atheist. U ask a genuine intelligent question and U deserve an appropriate answer. Allow me to take U into the world of the person called Logos. I do hope U are sincere and open minded, otherwise dont bother to respond. |
Education / Re: Graduate Kneels Before Her Idols And Gives Thanks (photos) by SIRTee15: 2:49am On Jul 23 |
FRANCISTOWN: The way U think is below the level of a 10 yr old. I keep saying it most Nigerian atheist are dumber than an slowpoke. Their reasoning capacity is nauseating. Your whole live revolves around white man invention. Your finances, work U do, language U speak, technology and device U use was invented by the white man. Yet your foolish self have never bothered to ask why U not following the way of your ancestors. Instead Christianity that's not a white man invention is what U is what is troubling your soul. If U are so bothered about black Africans ff white man invention, start with yourself. U should ask yourself why U have abandoned the ways of your ancestors and followed that of the white man. U can start with your name, why are U bearing FRANCIS and not ogunrinu or amadioha. Stop harping about Christianity. It was never a white man invention. If anything, we could confidently say Christian doctrine is an African invention. |
Education / Re: Graduate Kneels Before Her Idols And Gives Thanks (photos) by SIRTee15: 7:22pm On Jul 22 |
FRANCISTOWN: I've always known U to be very stupid and senseless. How many times have they corrected u here that Christianity was never a white man's religion If anything Africans established the Christian doctrines we have today. Trinity, apostolic creed, Unitarian Christianity, the canonisation of the new testament originated from early church fathers of African origin Father Arian, father Augustine, father Tertullian, Athanasius, and Origen were all berbers from the ancient Numidia empire in Africa. U can't talk about foundation of Christianity without mentioing them. Virtually every Christian belief and doctrine came from them. They gave us the new testament. Yet some oponu will go about saying it was the white man that designed Christianity because the history of the religion is less then 200 yrs old. When these African church fathers were building Christianity, the whole of Europe was pagan. So who founded Christianity for who? 1 Like 1 Share |
Religion / Re: Can Christians Eat Salah Meat? by SIRTee15: 2:55pm On Jul 22 |
AbuTwins: Kindly go this thread opened by your friend antichristian https://www.nairaland.com/8155845/jesus-vs-paul-5-forgiveness and other threads opened him. I've answered already, no need for repetition I get work to do this Monday morning. |
Religion / Re: Jesus Vs Paul 5 - Forgiveness Of Sins? by SIRTee15: 1:17pm On Jul 22 |
sonmvayina: hahaha I brought u evidence of based on research and dead sea scroll. u bringing me opinion of modern day jewish scolars. u are lost bro. Imagine someone calling evidence from dead sea scrolls absurd, calling extant manuscripts evidence as absurd. U called evidence from Prof Martin Hengel absurd. FYI- he was one of the greatest scholars of 2nd temple judaism in this modern era. I brought research work from Nick Meader, top scholar and researcher in theology and philosophy of religion. These are non - christian works. now u bring me opinion of 20th century Jewish apologist from a judaism website, what do u expect them to say...Isaih 53 is about Jesus!!!! My friend, go and bring me evidence that any Jewish scholar before 1000 AD believed Isaiah 43 is about Israel. Even the targum, which is a aramaic translation of the hebrew bible as far back as 150 BC believed Isaiah 53 is about the Messiah. FYI- Priest and scribes used to read the targum loud to the people in the synagogue. |
Religion / Re: Jesus Vs Paul 5 - Forgiveness Of Sins? by SIRTee15: 12:51pm On Jul 22 |
sonmvayina: show me any rabbi pre 500 AD that said the Isaiah 53 is about Israel. Just one. I brought tons of evidence, now I'm asking u to bring just one person that made such pronouncement. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Jesus Vs Paul 5 - Forgiveness Of Sins? by SIRTee15: 12:49pm On Jul 22 |
sonmvayina: did u read all the evidence I sent here? |
Religion / Re: Can Christians Eat Salah Meat? by SIRTee15: 10:58am On Jul 22 |
AbuTwins: Am I Jew to obey Jewish dietary laws. Read acts 15, your answer is there.... Moreover, the Lord shows Peter this in a vision. Acts 10 He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners. 12 It contained all kinds of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles and birds. 13 Then a voice told him, “Get up, Peter. Kill and eat.” 14 “Surely not, Lord!” Peter replied. “I have never eaten anything impure or unclean.” 15 The voice spoke to him a second time, “Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.” 16 This happened three times, and immediately the sheet was taken back to heaven. The mosaic law remained alive within the context of old testament covenant. It's perpetuity is bound to the longevity of the old testament. |
Religion / Re: Jesus Vs Paul 5 - Forgiveness Of Sins? by SIRTee15: 11:05pm On Jul 21 |
sonmvayina:So the choice is yours. You either follow ancient rabbis or a revisionist called Rashi. As I always say, person wey wan go hell fire no dey hear word but will do everything possible to end up in hell no matter what we do. U can close your eyes and continue to believe your delusion. But at least U won't say SIRTee didn't show U the truth. Qasim, AntiChristian U Muslims guys can also learn the truth. |
Religion / Re: Jesus Vs Paul 5 - Forgiveness Of Sins? by SIRTee15: 11:03pm On Jul 21 |
sonmvayina: So who started the claim that Isaiah 53 is about Israel. It was a rabbi called Rashi in the 10th century.
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Religion / Re: Jesus Vs Paul 5 - Forgiveness Of Sins? by SIRTee15: 10:59pm On Jul 21 |
sonmvayina: More from dead sea scrolls on Isaiah 53.
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