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Religion / Re: How Christianity Moved Away From Monotheism; The Difference From Arianism by SIRTee15: 4:11pm On Mar 31 |
Blkpanda:Does the name of an amputee change because a leg is ampiutated? No. His person as a human isn't altered based on loss of a shin. U only known as an amputated person but what makes u human doesn't change. Remember MR NIGER D. Blkpanda: That is the point of divine simplicity. A God shouldn't have parts and his essence should be uniform and the same within his existence. Otherwise there will be some areas of him that will not be God, that's the problem We Christians don't have this problem because the Christian God is a spirit. Spirits don't have shape or form. The deity of God is the same within his existence. |
Religion / Re: The Brutal, Merciless, Sadistic Prophet by SIRTee15: 3:33pm On Mar 31 |
Ohyoudidnt: Very funny...confused worshipers of a composite god questioning trinity. The audacity!!! Allah has a shin that shouldn't be worshipped. Yet Muslims will bow to the shin of Allah on judgement day. The shin of Allah is intrinsic to Allah but not body parts of Allah. Then what is it? Then the Almighty will come to them in a shape other than the one which they saw the first time, and He will say, 'I am your Lord,' and they will say, 'You are not our Lord.' And none will speak: to Him then but the Prophets, and then it will be said to them, 'Do you know any sign by which you can recognize Him?' They will say. 'The Shin,' and so Allah will then uncover His Shin whereupon every believer will prostrate before Him. Sahih al- bukhari 7349 If believers will worship the shin on judgement day why can't I start now? Tawhid in the mud. U guys should first sort out the body parts of your Allah and be certain he's actually one and single as U claim. Then we can discuss trinity. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: How Christianity Moved Away From Monotheism; The Difference From Arianism by SIRTee15: 1:57pm On Mar 31 |
[quote author=Ohyoudidnt post=129197061][/quote] Your screen shot didn't answer my question. Is the shin of Allah intrinsic to Allah or separate from him. That's my question. You just repeated the answer to my initial question which is cani worship the shin of Allah? And U already said no. So why repeating the answer. Anyway from the screenshot, it seems U agree the shin of Allah is intrinsic to allah- correct me if I'm wrong. That means Allah's form or shape has a physical attribute called shin that doesn't share in his deity- the very reason he's God. That's why we can't worship the shin. This automatically mean Allah is a composite being- he'd made up of parts. That's what U guys don't understand. Allah has parts but he's not that part. Allah has a shin but he's not the shin. Above is the definition of composite and that's the description of your god. This automatically means Allah is not one or single in his entire being because his deity as God is not uniformly distributed within him. There are some intrinsic physical attributes of Allah that can be cut off permanently and he will still be Allah. i.e Allah can be divided and no harm will come to the deity. Allah as God is neither single nor one. Tawhid is a false concept and doesn't make sense. Simple. |
Religion / Re: How Christianity Moved Away From Monotheism; The Difference From Arianism by SIRTee15: 1:46pm On Mar 31 |
Tallesty1: Just ignore that heretic preacher. He would soon give u a response that makes no sense ignoring all the passages U quoted. |
Religion / Re: How Christianity Moved Away From Monotheism; The Difference From Arianism by SIRTee15: 11:17am On Mar 31 |
Qasim6:Again another gbagaun. The first person we know that wrote about Jesus was thallus the Samaritan who described the events of the cruxifixion around 50s AD. Ben mara sarapion wrote about Jesus in 73AD. Josephus' works was in late 90s AD. So who first wrote about Christ. Qasim6: Seriously coming from a Muslim whose knowledge about Christ came from a forger 630 years after chrsit lived. U refuse to believe someone that wrote about Christ 100 years after his death but swallowed the tales of a desert forger who lived 600 yrs after the events he described. U go fear the way Muslims reason. Islam can never be reconciled with common sense, it's an infinite impossibility. Qasim6:It's ok to live in delusion, U won't be the first and not the last. I'm happy to cure your delusion of Isaiah 42 if U oblige me. Bur as usual U will run away. Qasim6:The biggest work of forgery ever known to mankind is the Koran. How Muslims believe that it's from God is a mystery to me. The whole of story about jesus in your Koran is not any divine revelation. They are stories in our apocryphal gospels. Stories of Mary, jesus talking at birth and jesus creating life are all in our gospel books written 100 years after the said events. Go and read the infancy gospel of Thomas and protoevangelium of James, all the stories are there. These are gospel books we rejected because we know they are forgeries. Now a forger forging from a forgery book into his own forged book only to turn around to lie that Allah told him the stories. U Muslims are lost. Qasim6: Tell me when did Jews start calling Ezra the son of God. because your Koran claimed they do. Let's see the religion of zero common sense and 100% blind faith. Qasim6: Then your Allah is a composite god. He's a god made up of body parts. If I can't worship the shin of Allah, then your Allah isn't single. U people should do more to learn about your religion, it's comedy at best. Next time I'm going to ask u when did your god start calling himself Allah. |
Religion / Re: How Christianity Moved Away From Monotheism; The Difference From Arianism by SIRTee15: 9:17am On Mar 31 |
Blkpanda: If Allah is one and single as Muslims want us to believe, then everything about Allah's form and existence should be Allah otherwise he not single. That means his essence should be uniformly distributed in whatever form he exist. But if U are telling me Allah has a shin but I cannot worship the shin. That means his shin doesn't have the essence of Allah. That automatically mean Allah is a composite being who's made up of parts just like human beings even if Muslims don't want to admit. For example my leg is not me, my hands are not me and my face isn't me. Humans are not single beings but composite beings. That's why someone with a leg amputation still retain his full identity because the amputated leg isn't the person, it's just part of the person that no longer exist with him. Above is the description of the god of the Muslims. A god made up of body parts, what a god!!! 1 Like 1 Share |
Religion / Re: How Christianity Moved Away From Monotheism; The Difference From Arianism by SIRTee15: 8:46am On Mar 31 |
Ohyoudidnt: What does Arianism doctrine teach about Logos? We Christians reject Arianism because it's heresy. U Muslims are the ones who seem to have a new lover in Arianism. So tell me what is Arianism doctrine on Logos and how is it related to Jesus Christ. |
Religion / Re: How Christianity Moved Away From Monotheism; The Difference From Arianism by SIRTee15: 8:42am On Mar 31 |
Ohyoudidnt: U didn't answer my question if the shin of Allah is with Allah or separate from him. If U did, screenshot your response otherwise U are a liar. Failure to answer means your god is a composite being. Allah made up of body parts. Simple. |
Religion / Re: How Christianity Moved Away From Monotheism; The Difference From Arianism by SIRTee15: 8:32am On Mar 31 |
Blkpanda: According to Muslims the unique oneness of Allah means he's indivisible and he's one in it's entirety. The concept is Tawhid ( oneness of Allah) is hinged on Allah is indivisibly one and single. But if U now telling me Allah has a shin that's with him but not him and cannot be worshipped as Allah, then U admitting Allah is a composite being made up of parts. His uniqueness isn't one because there are some parts of him that do not share his full essence and glory. Allah is not a unified entity. This negates the principle of divine simplicity which states that God does not exist in parts but is one unified entity, with no distinct attributes; that is, God’s esse is identical to God’s essence. |
Religion / Re: How Christianity Moved Away From Monotheism; The Difference From Arianism by SIRTee15: 7:16am On Mar 31 |
Ohyoudidnt: Arian theology makes it clear that Jesus is the begotten son of the father. According to Arianism, Jesus is derived from the Logos which is an attribute of the God the father. Arianism taught that the Logos was a divine being begotten by God the Father before the creation of the world, made him a medium through whom everything else was created. As I said earlier, U don't know what I talking about. U muslims are just clutching at straws to validate your weak islamic theology. That was how U guys believe ebionites were the true followers of Christ until that claim was bursted. Meanwhile explain to me when did Jews start calling Ezra the son of God. Since U can't explain to me how your Allah is a composite being, a god made of body parts. |
Religion / Re: How Christianity Moved Away From Monotheism; The Difference From Arianism by SIRTee15: 7:02am On Mar 31 |
Ohyoudidnt: A Muslim trying to give exegesis of the bible. U go fear. But wouldn't explain why I can't worship the shin of Allah. Oga explain to me is the shin of Allah with Allah or separate from Allah. Otherwise U guys are worshipping a composite god. A god made up of body parts. Your Allah is derived from different body parts. 1 Like 1 Share |
Religion / Re: How Christianity Moved Away From Monotheism; The Difference From Arianism by SIRTee15: 1:34am On Mar 31 |
gaskiyamagana: U mean your composite Allah. A god that's made up of parts. Imagine worshipping a composite being, someone derived from parts. Otherwise U have to explain to me why I cannot worship the shin of Allah. |
Travel / Re: CANADA: A Nigerian Family Says They Face ‘Persecution’ If Deported, Beg To Stay by SIRTee15: 11:55pm On Mar 30 |
Abeg Canada should calm down. Maybe if it was 10 yrs ago when Canada was Canada, I will accept the deportation order as genuine and in good faith. But Canada of today is turning to dugbe market with all sorts of character entering. In the last 5 yrs, over 4 million Indians alone entered Canada. Some areas in greater Toronto now is no different from new Delhi. What will deportation of 4 people change when almost 1 million immigrants enter every year. What will their removal change. Even white Canadians are leaving canada due to housing and cost of living crisis. Nothing special about Canada anymore, the special effect is gone. They should allow them to stay. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Religion / Re: How Christianity Moved Away From Monotheism; The Difference From Arianism by SIRTee15: 11:28pm On Mar 30 |
Qasim6: Ask Bart Erhman. Hahaha this one think our only historical evidence of Jesus is Josephus. U are far behind, the rest don overtake u. Tacitus a Roman senator spoke about Jesus Mara bar sarapion a stoic philosopher spoke about Jesusin 73 AD. Pliny and Suetonius both Roman historian spoke about Jesus. Thallus a samaritan historian wrote about the events that happened the night Jesus was crucified. Roman emperor Trajan wrote about Jesus Christ. Phlegon of Tralles AA historian wrote about Jesus. Both the Jewish Talmud and Mishnah wrote about Jesus. Even Josephus wrote about the death of James the just the brother of Jesus Christ. There's a reason all biblical scholars including atheist admits Jesus of Nazareth is a real person. We don't need a dubious character in a desert forging the works of our apocryphal gospels to attest to historicity of Jesus. When I say U guys know nothing about Christianity, U came here foaming in the mouth. Now see how U thoroughly embarrassed yourself. I'm still waiting for my answer. Why can't I worship the shin of Allah? |
Religion / Re: How Christianity Moved Away From Monotheism; The Difference From Arianism by SIRTee15: 10:43pm On Mar 30 |
Ohyoudidnt: Only God knows what bible this guy reads. John 1. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning.3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. John 1.18 18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known. The question is do U have this verses in your bible. Note I said bible not Koran. Don't confuse the 2. |
Religion / Re: How Christianity Moved Away From Monotheism; The Difference From Arianism by SIRTee15: 10:40pm On Mar 30 |
Qasim6: We don't need Islam to confirm jesus walk on this earth. Non biblical scholars confirmed Jesus Christ walked on this earth. Answer my question, can I worship the shin of Allah? |
Religion / Re: How Christianity Moved Away From Monotheism; The Difference From Arianism by SIRTee15: 10:08pm On Mar 30 |
Qasim6: Show me Tawhid in your Koran. Are U not the one I asked if I could worship the shin of Allah and I'm yet to get a response. |
Religion / Re: How Christianity Moved Away From Monotheism; The Difference From Arianism by SIRTee15: 9:05pm On Mar 30 |
Ohyoudidnt: The problem with Muslims apologetics and also atheist is u guys don't understand Christianity and U don't care to research about it. All U do is parrot ignorant statements passed around in our mosques or on internet. Now if I ask U what is the trinity as defined and established by the council of nicea, U will fail woefully. The creed is online for all to see but if I ask U to define the trinity in creed, na something else U go talk. The trinity in the Nicene creed is exactly as taught by Jesus and exactly what is in the old and new testament. Nothing was removed or added. You are the one with a problem. U don't believe in arainism because the theology declared jesus is divine, so debating it with U is useless. |
Religion / Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by SIRTee15: 2:36am On Mar 29 |
gaskiyamagana: Yes, shin of Allah is my problem because it proves Allah has parts. If the shin of Allah is not Allah but it's with Allah, then it begs the question what is it? According to the Hadith, Believers will only recognise Allah when they see his shin. That means the shin of Allah is part of Allah. If the shin is part of Allah, then your Allah has parts i.e he's made up of parts. Your Allah is a composite being, He's made up of parts. You Muslims are worshipping a god made of parts. And if Allah is made of parts, then he cannot be one because he can be divided. |
Religion / Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by SIRTee15: 11:33pm On Mar 28 |
Ohyoudidnt: I checked your initial response but didn't see my answer. Will believers see the shin of Allah with Allah or separate from Allah on judgement day. Allah has 99 attributes which are eternal but they separate from Allah. Is the shin of Allah separate from Allah like his attributes or the shin is with Allah. Sahih bukhari said when Allah appears to the believers on judgement day, they won't recognise him. But when Allah reveals his shin and show the believers, they will recognise Allah and bow. That's why I'm asking, will the shin of Allah be seen with Allah or separate from him. |
Religion / Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by SIRTee15: 8:42pm On Mar 28 |
Ohyoudidnt: Thank U very much for your boldness in answering the question. But I'm not interested in your sermon. Keep it for the mosque. Now that U have answered the question, your response leads to bigger problem. Remember we dealing with Tawhid here. Is the shin of Allah separate from Allah or is with Allah. Are we going to see the shin of Allah separate from him or we will see the shin with Allah. The will believers recognised Allah when they see his shin. Is that shin one with Allah or separate from him. |
Fashion / Re: Saudi Arabian Woman, Rumy Alqahtani Joins Miss Universe Beauty Pageant by SIRTee15: 8:20pm On Mar 28 |
olayinka63: Why are U bitter, is it your country. If they move the kabba to another site, what will U do. The worst is to stop facing Mecca when U praying which is the sensible thing to do in the first place. In case u don't know, the crown prince already announced plan to rewrite the hadiths saying the present ones are no longer fit for purpose. 2 Likes |
Fashion / Re: Saudi Arabian Woman, Rumy Alqahtani Joins Miss Universe Beauty Pageant by SIRTee15: 8:15pm On Mar 28 |
Eriokanmi: If oil end, na U go borrow them money develop their countries. Dubai is already westernised and other countries are following suit. They just need moderation in their development,. Adopt the good things in the west and reject the bad. |
Fashion / Re: Saudi Arabian Woman, Rumy Alqahtani Joins Miss Universe Beauty Pageant by SIRTee15: 8:13pm On Mar 28 |
kheny12: Lebanon living peacefully Hezbollah made that country hell. They nearly wiped out the Christian population in some areas. Beirut ove called the Paris of middle east almost become a daily site of suicide bombing at a time. |
Religion / Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by SIRTee15: 4:09pm On Mar 28 |
gaskiyamagana: U are a mad man. Seriously U need to be sectioned b4 U start roaming the street. |
Religion / Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by SIRTee15: 3:10pm On Mar 28 |
Ohyoudidn't I can see u, dont ignore my question. Who is Allah. I know he has a shin. Can I worship his shin? If the answer is no, why? Why can't I worship the shin of Allah? Is Allah's shin not one with Allah? So many question but no answer. Very sad Muslims can't defend Tawhid. |
Religion / Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by SIRTee15: 2:07pm On Mar 28 |
gaskiyamagana: If U not ready to answer my question stop quoting me. |
Religion / Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by SIRTee15: 2:27am On Mar 28 |
Qasim6: Anyway leave all these Aisha- Muhammed story and let's deal with the real issue. Who is God. Allah has a shin. As a Muslim am I permitted to worship the shin of Allah. If the answer is no, why? If Allah is one, why can't I worship the shin of Allah. Is the shin of Allah not one with Allah? |
Religion / Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by SIRTee15: 2:22am On Mar 28 |
Qasim6: Ok I've heard U. 12 yr old male was called boy in bible. 12 yr old girl was called little girl in the bible. Even her father called her 'my little girl'. But U will want us to believe her father called her 'my maiden' I wonder why would a father called her daughter my maiden, that sounds unhealthy. Sincerely I really pity u guys and feel for u. because I know it's not easy. It's a huge burden placed on Muslims to defend their prophet. It doesn't matter how atrocious or immoral the behaviour, taking the shahada is a call to defend Muhammed blindly. The harder the argument the more foolish Muslims must become to defend their prophet. Or is it not same Muhammed that tortured the treasurer of the Qurayza Jewish tribe to death just because be wanted to seize the Jewish money. Muslims dey try sha following such character as Prophet. |
Religion / Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by SIRTee15: 1:54am On Mar 28 |
Qasim6: My friend we not talking of engagement here. People even get engaged from birth in some cultures. But they wait for the girl to grow and mature b4 she's married off. If Muhammed was engaged to Aisha at 6 yrs, who cares. That's a common practice everywhere. But marriage and sex at such tender age is too extreme even for his time. That's an immoral behaviour. |
Religion / Re: Muslims are oblivious of the Serious Flaws in the Taoheed (Oneness of Allah)! by SIRTee15: 1:47am On Mar 28 |
Qasim6: Another senseless dawahgandist yarn. So a girl of 3 years old went to the well to fetch water, discussed with a stranger confidently, offered to fetch water for the stranger' camel to their satisfaction and she was 3 yrs. This is a classic case of cognitive dissonance. FYI, Camels can drink especially after a long journey. They drink up to 30 gallons at a times and Abraham's servant has 10 of them with him. Qasim6: I already told U God is not bound by our moral code of conduct. U wasting your time condemning God for his divine judgement on mankind. Jesus is God in flesh with a human soul which connects and resonates with human morality. If he had own slaves, I will be the last to follow him. Qasim6:I repeat Define woman. If U fail to define woman, then U don't have any moral right to condemn the LGBTQ who also choose to define woman based on their own 'time and location' since U already admitted definition of women vary. LGBQT is clear. The past definition of woman is obsolete and in 21st century, the definition of woman should be inclusive. That's exactly how stupi.d your argument sound. Once U move the definition of women from one post to another, then other people can also choose to redefine it; creating confusion everywhere. But we christians know there's only one definition of woman from God. An adult female, one who has completed puberty and able to be held accountable for her actions and fulfil purpose. Book for genesis 1-4 Qasim6: Read 2 kings 5.2-3. not every men is sex starved like those led by your prophet. God never told anyone what to do with captives of war, each men is left to make his choice. |
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