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Mirasteel:
Jesus is the prophet of God, not son.

He actually said he's the Son of God.

Lukuluku69:
A[b] team of geologists examined sediment layers near the Dead Sea, about 25 miles from where many scholars believe the crucifixion took place. Their analysis revealed signs of at least two significant earthquakes affecting the region.[/b]

Lol

The Region suddenly translate to the whole World?

Keep at it.

What of the walking Zonebs? Where did they go too? Back to their various Sepulchres or still roaming free amd disturbing people in their sleep?

😆 🤣 😂

Na jealousy dey worry u...

WHEN WILL SCIENTIST CONFIRM THE MIRACLE OF YOUR PROPHET WHEN HE SPLIT THE MOON AND PLASTERED IT BACK.

SEE AS SCIENTIST CONFIRM BIBLICAL CLAIM

FatimaAbubakar:
If I talk now, dem go say Fatima the Fulani Muslim girl don come again.

but Muhammed can split the moon and plaster it back?

Lukuluku69:
What about the Zonebs that walked thereafter, have they returned to their Sepulchres or are they still roaming?

I am asking for my mosque people

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There was earthquake all over Judea and the world yet only 2½ days later a certain Mary went to he supposedly buried and have the presence of mind to ask question.

Also, his disciples walked around just 2-3 days later without documenting houses that were destroy or people that might likely die from the earthquake.

Remember, it was a "Wide world " earthquake oo on the Holy Spirit can tell us the measurements on a Richter scale.

Awon o ni ro.

If I bounce on you now, it will be like I'm wicked.

The one u claimed using the moon to calculate time is divine..u never recover from the embarrassment.

zeyt:
Not necessarily. I think it wont be a problem when a HIV positive person is forced to mary a person he infected. Or a person he causes to loose and eye or a limb. Rape carries stigma in a lot of society to the extend that many parent never reported it when their child falls victim. In many cases rape victims wont find a husband becouse they were raped by someone.
In some yoruba culture mans only marries a woman when shes concieves for him. This is weird to us. Many men ended up absconding to avoid the marriage.

A rapist should be in jail, not getting married to his vitim.
This is 2026.
if the victim wants to marry her rapsit, its left to her NOT THE SOCIETY.

DUTY OF THE SOCIETY IS ENSURE THE RAPIST IS JAILED. RAPE IS A CRIME NOT A BACKDOOR TO GET A WIFE.

WriterrNg:

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You're the only one deceiving yourself here.

A simple Google search would bring out every body exchange and their full videos.

All reported and confirmed by western & Ukranian media. Not me.

So blame the western media for reporting the causality numbers as (35) Russia - (1000) every time.

If i ask you to bring out any photo or video of the Russian casualties now you'll begin to stutter.

U are not smart at all. No wonder u are blindly pro Russia. U follow Russia without common sense.

Most of the fierce fighting is done in eastern Ukraine region- areas controlled by Russia.
Ukraine have been fighting for over 2 yrs trying to regain those territories without any significant success. 90% of the heavy fighting with most casualties is in those areas.

Ukraine are the ones attacking while Russia is holding off. Ukraine will launch an offensive and then withdraw. There will be no time for them to carry dead bodies.

Russia will be the ones to do mop up operation after each offensive and clear the dead bodies be it Russian or Ukrainians.

WriteerNg:

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You call our own propaganda but you're seeing the real bodies being offloaded in thousands.

While you call yours the reality. But where is the body or evidence to prove all those numbers?

You think millions of bodies can be easily hidden? If Ukraine tells you Russia has lost millions, why isn't Ukraine showing the Russian dead bodies to anyone? Or swapping them?

Do you know that if Ukraine hands over just 500k Russian dead bodies today the war will end? Because Russia will realize how much it has lost.

Where are the Russian bodies? How can you count what you don't have or haven't seen?

Can you tell me how much i have in my pocket right now?

Note I'm not in anyway supporting Ukraine in this war.

Everybody knows ukraine is bleeding badly and I doubt if there will be any men left in Ukraine when this war is done.
I'm even surprised there are still Ukrainians men left still fighting this war, kudos to them on that. But the rate of casualty is not sustainable and Zelensky should swallow his ego and talk for peace.

Those Russian speaking eastern region are gone for good. Crimea is as good as gone. Putin will rather go to war with the whole world rather than lose those territories.
Zelensky and his mad anti Russian elites should eat the humble pie and negotiate. Europe and America will not support Ukraine forever. Get what u can get from the table now b4 those allies withdraw their support and Ukraine has nothing to bargain with.

Otherwise na African men go do the work of repopulating Ukraine. Ukrainian women are very beautiful and will need little effort from our gallant African men to perform the task of impregnation.

WriteerNg:

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You call our own propaganda but you're seeing the real bodies being offloaded in thousands.

While you call yours the reality. But where is the body or evidence to prove all those numbers?

You think millions of bodies can be easily hidden? If Ukraine tells you Russia has lost millions, why isn't Ukraine showing the Russian dead bodies to anyone? Or swapping them?

Do you know that if Ukraine hands over just 500k Russian dead bodies today the war will end? Because Russia will realize how much it has lost.

Where are the Russian bodies? How can you count what you don't have or haven't seen?

Can you tell me how much i have in my pocket right now?

Ever since you have been posting body exchange here, it's always 1000 Ukrainians bodies in exchange for 35 Russian bodies.

That's when it becomes propaganda.

All independent investigative agencies all confirmed Russia has lost 50,000 men in the war.

Even Russian army admitted they have lost over 6000 men as at February 16 2026. But u will come here and be posting only 35 russian dead bodies.

Dey there, dey deceive yourself.

Same propangada all the time. Una no dey tire

Bodies exchanged ...always 1000 Russian bodies and 35 Ukrainians. The numbers no dey change.

Neither Ukraine or Russians is winning this war. The biggest winners are military contractors, war equipments manufacturers and china.

The biggest losers are citizens of both countries losing men at battle field. Let them continue, na black men both of them hate so much go help them repopulate their counties with mixed race kids everywhere.

zeyt:
Its really beauful. At least she now has a family she can call her own, not an outcast. Allah will judge between them.
At least many communities here in Naija have population with more than half as bastards. Never know who fathered them. And some think its normal to be born out of wedlock.

No problem, then let's change the law so that rapist can marry their victims.
Abi no be so. Onisokuso

CaseSensitive:
Whether Ethiopia is Sub-Saharan or not is irrelevant to the core issue. Christianity existing in Aksum does not mean it existed in Yorubaland. I don't know how that is difficult to grasp. That’s like saying because Buddhism existed in India, the Aztecs must have been closet Buddhists. Proximity is not proof. Continent is not transmission.

You’re inflating Africa into this mystical spiritual blob where theology teleports across deserts without trade routes, missionaries, inscriptions, churches, manuscripts, or archaeological evidence. Show one pre-19th-century Yoruba Christian liturgy. One church ruin. One manuscript. One cross inscription. Or at least one contemporary account. Then you swing to Constantine as if the guy pressed a heavenly “Apply to All Regions” button. Constantine didn’t convert an empire overnight; he legalized a religion that had already spread through Roman networks. Institutional backing accelerates religion. That’s precisely what happened in colonial Nigeria. You can’t use state power to explain Rome and then pretend state power is irrelevant in West Africa.

Your migration spiral is intellectual smoke. Bantu routes, Berbers in the Sahara, Afroasiatic dispersals, fascinating anthropology but that's about it, absolutely zero proof of a first-century Levantine theology embedded in Yoruba cosmology. Population movement does not equal doctrinal transmission. If it did, we’d have archaeological trails of it. We don’t.

And the “West declined because atheism” sermon? Europe’s rise correlates with industrialisation, science, colonial extraction, and capital accumulation, not some divine mood swings. If moral decay proves atheism fails, then crusades and inquisitions prove Christianity failed centuries ago. You're struggling to pick a consistent metric, your argument has been ridiculously inconsistent then you throw absolutely irrelevant nonsense into the mix.

You keep accusing me of insulting ancestors. I didn’t. Precolonial West Africa had trade networks, metallurgy, currency systems, textile exports. None of that manufactures indigenous Christianity out of thin air. Civilisation doesn't equal to prior exposure to Jesus. If you actually read, I earlier mentioned that I don't subscribe to either universalist religion which is Christianity and Islam but of course you're just itching to gag out diarrhoea. And of course, the hint flew way over you when I said "Africa is my holy land" but it's me that's discarding afrocentrism? Funny, no? I'm tolerant of other people's religion, for context, refer to my initial post that you unfortunately quoted. Your God is the God of Israel, good for you. The age old religion and way of life of my ancestors is what I proudly and fiercely uphold, Isese is where I found my God (Much for someone who discarded afrocentrism eh?). That's godlessness to you but hey, not my circus, not my monkeys.

Funny how you brought up my ‘donkey years abroad’ when it was you who volunteered to tell everyone you’ve been living abroad for over ten years. I didn’t need to invent that detail to prove a point, but of course you deemed it important, otherwise your arguments that are collapsing into a loop of projection, redirection, and historical cherry-picking wouldn't have made any sense to yourself. There are chairs for you at the back, a lot of them, pick one and sit your backside there.

All your initial arguments are broken, what u doing now is reinventing new ones for the sake of relevance.

U said xtianity is alien to africa- broken
U then said xtianity is alien to subsahara africa- broken
U claimed colonisation brought xtianity to nigeria- broken
U then argued colonisation pressured Nigerians to embrace xtianity - broken.

Guy, culture is dynamic. It's something u really have to understand.

U can continue to deny the obvious. Europe is declining. All the things u mentioned science, technology, industrialization are still strong in Europe. So why are they gradually becoming irrelevant. The answer is so so obvious, lack of societal discipline and moral guidance.
Anything goes liberal secularism.
U may deny it, but the decline began when church and state finally parted ways in the mid 20th century.
A river that forget it's source will dry up.

I can't write much, follow your Isese and let us follow our own faith. But I hope u guys will really work hard enough to give the traditional spirituality modern facelift. It's too primitive and too superstitious to be relevant in this age and time.

I can bet that none of those countries u mentioned pay their doctors 50,00-70,000 dollars per annum. That's what most european countries pay their doctors except the high income ones.
where bangladesh wan take see 70,000 dollars carry give just one doctor, on top wetin.

besides, If u are a doctor, salary should be your least worry now.
Your biggest headache should be AI that may soon make u jobless or make u less relevant or an option.

AI application in medicine is evolving fast and it's been said in 10-20 years time, it would make better and faster diagnosis than doctors.
Elon Musk recently said in the next 5-10 years robots will be doing surgery independently.

dey there dey complain of salary, govt will soon be closing medical schools.

erniok2:
I may agree with the last part in the light of the new testament but you should note the old testament was a show of power.

As for the talmud, I know nothing about it neither do I want to explore. Ì had thought we were discussing the bible.

The Jews extensively interpreted the tanakh which is what we call the old testatment. To them the bible is a total way of life, its their own tradition and culture. To us, it's a book for spiritual guide.

The old testament defines the Jewish culture, that's why it's was crazy to the Jews when they heard Paul telling them the old testament is no longer binding on them- they were going to beat him to death. It's like someone telling u to abandon your Yoruba or Igbo culture for whatever reason.
James was wiser, he told the Jews it's ok to follow the old testament but they should understand the way to God is now the Messiah- Jesus Christ.

Truth is u cant fully understand the old testament without studying how its interpreted by the ancient jews- remember they were the ones that wrote and compiled it. It's their book.
exegesis of the old testament can be found in the mishnah, midrash, targum, Gemara and talmud. Though not all make sense and u need discernment to know what's divinely true.

For example genesis Rabbah midrash claimed Jephthah fulfilled his vow by sacrificing his daughter as a burnt offering to God though condemned for such. I've looked at the passage thoroughly in the book of judges and there's nothing to suggest that's what happened.
So one has to be careful what u take to be true from those books- they are not divinely inspired.

erniok2:
How was elisha punished by God. Scriptures verses to buttress this wild claim pls.

It's in the Jewish mishnah- babylonia talmud.

It also said God was displeased with him for punishing Gehazi too harshly instead of correcting him more gently.

The Sages taught: Elisha fell ill three times. One was a punishment for inciting the bears to attack the children; and one was a punishment for pushing Gehazi away with both hands, without leaving him the option to return; and one was the sickness from which he died, as an expression of illness is stated three times in the verse about Elisha: “And Elisha became sick [ḥala] with his illness [ḥolyo] from which he would die” (II Kings 13:14). The root ḥet, lamed, heh, which indicates illness, is used twice in this verse, and it is stated once that Elisha will die.
Tractate Sotah 47a

The point is that u have anointing doesnt give u the authority to misuse it.

lebienconnu:
The guy actually believed his call was genuine. I was so scared for the girl. Now, he knows his call is fake. What happens now?

Relax, we all know nothing will happen to the girl. But both of them should relax.
None of them has the power of life, either to take or give.
All these noise is ignorance on both sides. Neither of them has the power to extend their lives for just one minute so why put God to test.

Dr Abiodun, abeg forgive her and retract your curse on her. Please let's be Christ like in our actions and doing. Even Elisha whose curse was effective was punished by God for abusing anointing. The gift of the tongue God gave u is to bless life and not to take it.
Besides, na Simi's case wey dem drag for twitter we still dey try micromanage and clear for ground. Abeg we no want another dragging drama. because your own dragging no go funny, even Pastor Adeboye's ear go full.

lawani:
So because of this one statement you believe there is no longer need for taking responsibility for your actions? Because of this all your recklessness is covered?. There are no actions without consequences. Give me where he said he died for the past, present and future sins of the whole world, the whole of mankind not for many which to him would have meant only Jews since he said by himself that he was sent to Jews.

Anybody saying all your past, present and future misdemeanors have been paid for is simply insane. You are just trying to prove Jesus was insane.

I can see u are a Muslim, so its a waste of time discussing further with u what Jesus said because the words of Jesus mean nothing to u guys, u dont believe anything he said in the first place unless it aligns with your Quran.

Now what I want u to do is tell me how u attain salvation in Islam. show me in your Quran how salvation is attained. I dont want your explanation, I want to see the verse in the Quran that says this is how people attain salvation.

I leave u more with the verbatim words of Jesus Christ in the gospel. If u shout it's corrupt that's your business. until u guys produce the copy of the so called original injeel Jesus preached from, kindly shut up.

John 6
53 Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.

lawani:
Give us evidence where he said his blood can be a substitute for personal accountability. No sane person can say that is why it does not exist

Mathew 26.28
This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.

This is Jesus own word on the night of passover. What do u understand by that statement.

lawani:
You provide evidence that Jesus said he came to die for the past, future and present sins of the whole world.

if I give u evidence from his own words in the gospel books, will u accept it or begin some meaningless whataboutism.

Everfrank:
Agreeing with the teachings of Jesus may not mean agreeing with Christianity.
Jesus neither taught Christianity nor was he a Christian. Christianity was invented by Paul long after Jesus and around jesus's death and resurrection rather than on what he actually taught. Words and doctrines like Christian, Christianity, trinity, the cross, atonement of sin, divine sonship were never taught by Jesus.

provide evidence Jesus never taught those things but they came from Paul

CaseSensitive:
Oh I see, now we’re suddenly defending “all of Africa is one unbroken Christian cradle” while ignoring facts. Let me break it down for you.
Ethiopia, Eritrea, Nubia? Fine, they were Christian. Congrats. Does that mean Sub-Saharan Africa, including Nigeria, had organic Christianity before European missions. Absolutely not. Aksum isn’t Lagos, Makuria isn’t Ibadan. You’re conflating geography with theology to push your agenda.

where does subsahara start, is eritrea, ethiopia, sudan and south sudan subsahara africa or not. u are the one conflating the identity of subsahara africa to push your agenda.
u cannot be shifting the geographical location of subsahara africa as u like. it has a specific defintion and a fixed location.
so is eritrea, ethiopia, sudan and south sudan part of subsahara africa or not.

CaseSensitive:
Skin color doesn’t equal culture. Just because Ethiopians were black and ancient doesn’t mean their Christianity had any cultural alignment with Yoruba cosmologies. Your Athanasius and Tertullian argument is irrelevant to the daily life of a 19th-century Yoruba peasant or monarch, they had zero influence on them.

my friend, culture is dynamic, its never static. every culture is infuenced by imported traditions. The word Yoruba itself was imported, we never called ourself Yoruba to begin with, it was given to us.
I never said Tertullian or Athanasius influenced ancient Yoruba mythology, I pointed out the influence of africans on christianity because your earlier argument was that christianity was alien to africa. Now that u have swallowed your vomit and admitted xtianity isn't alien to ancient africa, no need repeating that argument or referencing them.

CaseSensitive:
Then you went on about voluntary adoption. You’re romanticizing a few converts while ignoring that the widespread spread in Nigeria relied heavily on colonial structures and missionary schools, which replaced indigenous institutions. Efusetan Aniwura, Oba Akintoye, Balogun Okenla etc…sure, exceptions prove the rule, but they don’t erase structural facts or do they?

exception These were prominent men in their kingdom, how do u even think xtianity spread. seriously, have u actually taken time to study ancient theology and how they spread? It takes just the king to announce a faith the national religion and everyone falls in line.
That's how it is in the kingdoms mentioned in the bible and how it is in real world. In the bible, the king calls the nation to repentance and people obey.
Emperor Constantine in one edict announced xtianity the official roman empire religion and the rest is history.
Or u think an english man was one of Jesus disciples or Jesus appeared to the ancient ethiopian kingdom and told them to convert. No sir
Romans brought xtianity to England and a Phoenician brought xtianity to ethiopia. The king of aksum liked it, he converted and made the faith the national religion.

Without colonisation, these 2 religions would have made serious inroads into Yorubaland due to its adoption by prominent leaders and its just a matter of time they would replace the local ones. Already Oba Momodu Lamuye of Iwo already made Islam the official religion in the land as far back as 1820.

CaseSensitive:
I actually like your analogy of China, Japan, Philippines comparison but you miss that cultural, political, and economic incentives were massively different. Christianity spread in Nigeria under colonial pressure and institutional incentives. Was it a spontaneous cultural resonance like in Ethiopia? No

People adapt whatever belief to their cultural identity. xtianity isn't monlithic in Nigeria, white garment church felt very indigenous while Pentecostal felt very elitist. missionaries took the religion to Japan not colonialist and was very popular amongst the peasant due to the message of salvation.
colonial pressure only hastened what would have been an eventual dominant force if nature was allowed to take it course.

CaseSensitive:
Migration myths and Sungbo’s Eredo? interesting archaeology, yes. But again I will reiterate that walls and migration patterns don’t prove Christianity was native to Nigeria. They only prove that we as Africans had complex societies.

it shows u cant separate subsahara africa based on some nonsense skin colour or recent geographical location. I didnt bring it up to prove xtianity instead to show u the artificial boundary attributed to present nations has no relevance to ancient migration.
anthropologist will argue bantu people migrated from cameroon and Nigeria to east, central and west africa all the way to senegal and Tanzania, then stopped.
so why did they stop?
why didnt the bantu continue their migration to somalia, sudan, Mali, Morocco, Mauritania, Ethiopia, algeria.

They argued afrosiatic group re-migrated back to africa and spread throughout the north and eastern africa then stopped. so what happened to kenya, Tanzania, uganda, chad and central africa republic. what prevented these afroasiatic group from entering kenya and populating it?

If the berbers could occupy the hot sahara region of algeria, niger, mali. what prevented them from moving southwards and populating the lesser hot region of norther nigeria, upper volta, senegal, gambia sierra leone and ivory coast.
They could live in the desert region of sahara for thousand of years but couldnt survive in savanah part of west africa.

anthropologist even claim bantu migrated all the way down to angola, zambia, namibia then stopped, they claim bantu didnt enter south africa.
Like what stopped the migration at the south african border.
oyinbo and manipulative lies are like 5&6.

There's nothing to indicate african region is monolithic in anyway. so u cannot tell me my ancient ancestors didn't worship Jesus before me. u dont have any evidence for that.

CaseSensitive:
With your “universal God” argument, theological appeal doesn’t change history. A message can be appealing everywhere, it doesn’t make it indigenous. The Orthodox Church in Ethiopia is indigenous because it evolved internally for more than 1600 years or so. Nigerian Christianity? Imported, adapted, and Africanized afterward. Big difference.

This is just a blind argument. xtianity was introduced to England by roman colonialist just like it was introduced here. it evolved and adapted overtime. Are we going to be having this same argument in 1000 years time that xtianity is an alien import to Nigeria?

CaseSensitive:
Atheism makes no sense? To you maybe. I guess an atheist can say exactly the same thing about religion and I never for once actually mentioned anything about atheism, never said or insinuated I’m an atheist. I’m certainly not one, but in support of the atheists and in counter to your claim that atheism promotes immorality , gives no guidance and denies reality, - if your moral compass collapses in absence of this your “Universal God” then that say more about you and your ethics than that of atheists.

western world tried atheism and secular liberal laws for just 50 years. The result is moral decadence and societal degeneration. collapse of identity- both national and self, breakdown of societal and family values, explosion of debauchery and rising case of mental illness.
If above is the fruits of atheism, thank u but I dont want to be a part of.

western world tried xtianity for 1000 years, and rose to become the most powerful and influential civilisation ever known in history. The explosion as crazy and unimaginable. The rest of the world saw them as demi gods. They were accelerating at a unprecedent rate until pride got into them, decided they wanted to continue the journey alone and kicked God out of their society.

Now they are so ordinary and their society becoming unappealing that even their own natives are now jumping and abandoning the sinking ship. In 2026, the only continent the white man can bully and get away with is maybe Africa. europe has lost its identity and a false god is gradually raising its head in their midst. what a pity for a race that rejected the One True God.

CaseSensitive:
If Christianity is docile in the Western world (who supposedly should be the torchbearer and custodian of the religion, because they forced it down your throat in the first place) while Christianity back in Nigeria is ridiculously fragmented and commercialised to the extent that every half brain Chinedu and Damilola with a bible and half a plot of land or a makeshift "church", can become a “pastor”, I guess that says it all.

very funny, u think God's plan is dependent on action of people. read the bible and be educated. God blessed Israel because their forefather was the first person to understand that God hates polytheism and wanted to be worshipped without any partner.
when they messed up, they were duly punished and scattered. nobody is special in the sight of God, we are so inconsequential in his overall plan.
People can stop worshipping God for another 5,000 years and it changes nothing. when we are ready to follow his command, he will hearken to us again and show us his mighty hand.
WE ARE THE ONES THAT NEED GOD, HE DOESN'T NEED US. GET THAT CLEAR.

UNIVERSE ITSELF DOESNT NEED US, U THINK IF EARTH GOES INTO EXTINCTION TODAY, U THINK UNIVERSE WILL NOTICE OR CARE?
The universe will continue to exist without planet earth for billions of years and nothing will happen.
Now imagine your relevance to God who is bigger and mightier than the universe.
That's how irrelevant and inconsequential man is. It's that self-consciousness u have that's giving u grandiose delusions, giving u ideas u are important.

CaseSensitive:
Bottom line: Christianity in Nigeria was not organically African before colonial-era influence and that’s my point. Stop trying to use Ethiopia’s unique historical case to erase the structural realities in Africa, especially West Africa. The facts don’t care about your sentimental defense or your ten years abroad - a statement that has no bearing on, or relevance to the subject matter. I’ve been (still) living abroad before you probably had an international passport.

debunked thoroughly. u can continue to believe in your lies if it makes u sleep well.
ok since u have been living abroad for donkey years, and has followed the white man to godlessness....
now that they are retracing their steps back and embracing Islam, when are u joining your fellow whites to say the shahada
when are u copying the whites and say your own shahada.

and I will advise u take a look at books on old ancient africa and read, it will expand your closeminded ignorant mind. Your intellectual depth on ancient africa is very shallow for someone who claimed to have lived abroad for donkey years.
Most africans embrace afrocentrism when they live abroad not reject it.

start with Precolonial black africa by cheikh Anta diop

just to wet your appetite- do u know Efusetan Aniwura exported cosmetics to america, the biggest source of her wealth?
do u know the ancient benin kingdom currency was an acceptable mode of payment in the kingdom of Morocco?
do u know Yoruba had their own writing system before Crowther intoduced the latinised alphabets
do u know west african biggest export to europe from 15-17th century was textile and soaps

So just dont sit there and assume your ancestors were dumb, couldn't think for themselves and were just accepting anything thrown at them. That's an eurocentric bias to make them look weak.

CaseSensitive:
Hey, I certainly know what I'm talking about. Christianity had ancient roots in parts of Northeast Africa, but for most of Sub-Saharan Africa including Nigeria of course it spread through colonial and missionary expansion. Your ancestors weren't "Christians" when your fathers Athanasius and Tertullian etc were ratifying church belief. You as a sub Saharan African do not have any cultural alignment with any North African. So yes, Christianity is alien to most African traditional cosmologies.

If Nigeria was colonised by the Chinese, you'll swear your life by Buddhism and you most certainly won't be a Christian today.

It's obvious u drinking the white man's racist cool aid with your weak attempt to divide Africa based on skin colour.

When the white man say Africa didn't have a writing system or produce the wheel and we point them to Egypt; they argue Egypt isn't an african civilisation. Then we point out Ethiopia and Eritrea, they argue Ethiopia is not fully subsahara. Then we point them to Timbuktu, they argue it was an Islamic civilisation built by Berbers and has nothing to do with subsahara Africa.

Your first post mentioned Christianity is alien to Africa. Now that u were called out u switched it to subsahara Africa. So tell me, is Ethiopia, Eritrea and south Sudan no longer part of subsahara Africa anymore?


U people keep shifting the goalpost to suit your propagandized agenda. An agenda that makes no logical sense.
The bible in Ethiopia, is it different from the one the white man brought to Lagos. The Jesus they worshipped in Eritrea since the 5th century, is it different from the one Bishop Ajayi Crowther brought to Badagry.
If it's the same, then u guys have nothing to stand on and the idea that Jesus is alien to Africa is foolishness.

FYI, the ancient Ethiopians had darker skin tone than most Nigerians. They were so black skin that the ancient Greeks call them Aethiopia meaning burnt face. That's how black they look.

Then u said I as a Nigerian don't have any link to North Africa. Who are the original North Africans? Who are the indigenous North Africans? You think it's the present arabs living there now?

If I may ask u, do the Nigerian Fulanis have any link with the original North Africans?

There was no fixed ethnic group in the north and west African region for thousands of years, it was a constant migratory pattern until around 1000AD.

These regions have always been multi-ethnic crossroads between Sahara and sub-Saharan Africa. Climate change (especially desert expansion), trade routes, and empires constantly reshaped who lived where.
So instead of one “original” people, there were layers of ancient populations, until maybe 11th century.

The idea that one specific ethnic group have always occupied same area in subsahara Africa is an Eurocentric attempt to disconnect your root from ancient northern Africa ethnicity.

The Sungbo’s Eredo is evidence of such migratory ancient civilization. The massive system of walls and ditches built in Ijebu ode span 160km of walls and trenches. It forms an enormous enclosed area, larger than many ancient cities. UNESCO announced it's the largest earth excavation work and the longest wall ever built in history

The local inhabitants in Ijebu Ode cannot explain who built the wall. There's no oral tradition telling us the local community built it. The only oral history we have is that a wealthy lady from Nubia region migrated to the area and built it. That should tell u something about ancient migration.

Fulanis are the most recent migrant from northern Africa to the deep south. That's why they retain many of the phenotypic features of northern Africans. They followed a repeated wave of southward migratory pattern that had existed for centuries.


Finally, u ignorantly claimed we are Christians because of colonisation. Very ridiculous.
UK colonised Egypt and India, why are they not Christians.
France colonised Senegal, Mali, Niger and guinea, why are not Christians.

U people have a lot of work to do in understanding cultural dynamics and how it influence society. Islam was already rampant in Yorubaland in the 19th century. Basorun Latoosa, the great Ibadan warload of the popular kiriji war died a Muslim.
Efusetan Aniwura the 2nd iyalode of Ibadan was a Christian and a strong member of the local church in 1850s. Balogun okenla who led the egbas against the Dahomey on the 1850s was a Christian.
Oba Akintoye and Dosunmu embraced Christianity in the mid 19th century during their reign as monarch in Lagos while Oba Kosoko embraced Islam. None of them denied their heritage as traditional Yorubas.

All these prominent figures embraced foreign religions without any nonsense colonisation and still played powerful role in their respective communities.
Colonisation or not, people will embrace what makes sense and sounds appealing. The truth is always clear from falsehood. It has nothing to do with culture.

China had been in contact with the Philippines for thousands of years but couldn't establish Buddhism, American missionaries arrived in the 19th century and within 50 years the nation became Christian.

The only way Japan could stop Christianity in the 15th and 16th century was to start persecuting and executing Japanese who converted to Christianity. Otherwise Japan would have become a Christian nation within 100 years. It was spreading like wild fire.

Over 60,000 Christians were killed by the emperors after passing the anti christian edict in 1587. 12,000 were killed in a single day in shimbara peninsula after Christian peasant rebelled against the heavy taxation against them.

U guys knows nothing about the power of the gospel and the conviction of the truth. The message of a universal God and his redemption plan sounds appealing anywhere.

It's just the docility of present Christians especially in western world and commercialization of the faith in some regions that gave people like u mouth to talk.

I have been abroad now for over 10 years, if Christianity doesn't seem right, I would have abandoned it long time ago. Don't worry, a wave of revival is coming soon.

Atheism makes no sense, it promotes immorality as the norm, gives no guidance and denies the reality. That's why it's dying out even in western world as people begin to seek the truth again.

CaseSensitive:
I suppose you can agree with the teachings of Jesus, objectively without being a Christian, then again, Christianity is for people like them. It's their religion (Europeans). That doesn't change the fact that Christianity, including the other Abrahamic religion are alien to Africa. I don't want to know the Jesus Christ of Nazareth because I'm not from Nazareth, I'm not from that region. Jerusalem or Mecca is not my holy land. Africa is.

I take God beg u, if u are ignorant about a topic be quiet rather than spreading falsehood.

5 African kingdoms in subsahara Africa embraced Christianity as a national religion before any European nation became Christian.

They compiled their own bible in their native language and worshipped Jesus there own way.

Kingdom of Aksum, Alodia, Nobatia and Makuria, all become Christian nation in the 4th century. Christianity arrived England in the 6th century.
The whole of Nubia, present day Sudan, South Sudan, part of Tanzania and Southern Egypt were all Christians as far back as 4th century.
The kingdom of Kongo embraced Christianity in the 15th century as a national religion.

The concept of Trinity came from African church fathers like Athanasius and Tertullian. Athanasius played a big role in the compilation of the new testament books we have today.

Over 30 African bishops were present at the nicene creed in 325AD where the core church belief was ratified and made a creed.

Every nation was pagan at one point in history, that doesn't mean they should continue such practice because culture is dynamic.

Trump has lost the plot completely.

The only country his tariff is affecting hard is Canada, other countries have since moved on.
Despite the tarrrif against China, the export of China grew larger. No factory has shut down in China because of any American tariffs.

Nobody is serious bringing jobs back to america except the ones in Canada.

Trump is an economic illiterate, he has no idea how global economy works and thinks a old concept of tariff restriction will impact anything in 2026

Zocalite:
No matter how you paint the devil

It's horns and tail will expose it

Go russia na canon fodder putin go use you do

dont quote me if u cant be devoid of emotions and approach topics with an intelligent rational mind.

This is what I said about the war in ukraine- btw, I dont support his unjustified invasion of ukraine. I feels its unnecessary and just a steroid laden ego trip that leads to nowhere.

but of course, that flew past your empty head because I dont understand how u conclude I support the russia in the ukraine war.

You have to give it to Putin, he modernised Russia and prevented those european hawks in collusion with their corrupt oligarch friends to finish off Russia
Putin is not a saint but he has a genuine love for his country and actually wants it developed.

after the fall of communism, Russia became a mess, the politicians were corrupt and they looted the country dry. The oligarchs embarked on capital flight to european countries aided by european banks while the hypocritical EU leaders looked the other way.
Then people use to call Russia is Nigeria with snow.

Putin ended that nonsense. He jailed any oligarch who wouldn't fall in line, he took back all industries that were privatised and revitalized them. He built new infrastructure, restructure the oil and gas industry and made sure the proceeds actually benefited the citizens.
say what u may about Putin, its undeniably Russians love him and that's why they refuse to dance to the international conspiracy tune against their leader.

What Africa needs is a leader like Putin. Firm, assertive, independent minded but also very much pro development and progress.

btw, I dont support his unjustified invasion of ukraine. I feels its unnecessary and just a steroid laden ego trip that leads to nowhere.

Kemetian:
Is this Agege or is this Los Angeles?

Lagos is really stepping up. Good gracious.

https://youtube.com/shorts/SGo6-xdKNdc?si=XV9Z7QXNYzDCbqHJ

no be your fault. na LA wey don downgrade na him give u confidence dey make nonsense comparison.

when LA was LA, them born u compare city of angels to ghetto Lagos. Lagos that has no urban planning, no modern skyline, no real parks, no bicycle pathway, no treeline, all buildings look the same- dull looking buildings with concrete floor, In 2026, that city still has open gutter system. no efficient transport system, no architectural marvel, 30 yrs ongoing- they are yet to lay the first stone of 4th mainland bridge.
I repeat, no be your fault.
even as LA be, with the present crop of politicians in that country, Lagos cannot catch up with rotten LA in another 100 years. no be curse, na reality.

Lukuluku69:
Then do yourself a favour and shut up!

The same Saudi Arabia just declared tomorrow the first of Ramadan.

Muslims won't complain but trust these man worshippers to bleating all over peoples mention.

Jehovah said reckon time amd seasons with the moon but you are disposed to the Pagan Romans system and when we tell you that you are man worshippers and obey the commands of men above that of Jehovah the Daddy of your Lord and saviour, una go be all over the place.

Shior

You are classic case of Education is not synonymous with intelligence at all.

Where did u learn that seasons are created by the moon or lunar movement. Who told u that
U took the bible literally and concluded seasons are based on lunar movement.

Mormor really did a strong thing on you guys with that book he called the literal word of God. Since then u guys see literal everywhere.

And to imagine he said to reckon time with moon is divine instruction. By whose commandment?

No wonder they say u guys worship a moon god, that's the only deity that can make such ignorant statement that people should use the moon to calculate season.

Read below and be educated. Learn what brings about season.

Lukuluku69:
If you notice Taiwo, you will also see that your Jewish Lords holidays always jump up and down and the one you called the saviour observe same holidays that jump up amd down until the Roman pagans changed the way Jehovah ordained Seasons to be reckoned with below.

Psalms 104:19 (KJV) He appointed the moon for seasons: the sun knoweth his going down.

I already told u previous civilisation base their timing on lunar calendar. That was when civilisation was simple.

As civilisation became more advanced, the lunar calender was no longer feasible.
Saudi Arabia had to shift public-sector salaries from lunar to solar (2016) partly to reduce payroll costs because they were workers more frequently for doing nothing.

Jesus didn't come to fix fasting to a specific month or period. The concept of fasting is completely different in the bible, in fact fasting has little to do with eating or drinking.

It's your prophet that fixed fasting with an unpredictable lunar calendar and got u guys fixed with the problem since.