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GAC that wil become inconsequential if another political party wins Lagos gubernatorial election.

If GAC is to become a recognised and established institution, it should have opposition as members and be non partisan. But we know u have to be a loyal fan of Tinubu to become a member.

GAC only serve as a retirement pension fund for retired politicians who were Tinubu's loyalist. Any power they think they have comes from Tinubu.

GAC is Tinubu and Tinubu is GAC.

Layi4real:
nothing concern me as a Muslim with ur view about jesus and other prophet of Ur book neither does nothing concern u about mine. the fact remains that Muslims still has the right to speak about Jesus as he was portray in the holy Qur'an and no Muslims will ever use negative word for jesus or any other prophet of the book bcus it's going to be counted as blasphemy. As for the Christians u have every right to speak about the people of Ur bible but since u didn't regards Muhammad as a prophet in Ur book u got to take Ur mouth of him or better still don't use negative or cursed words on him or lie about him as he isn't Ur prophet

My bible tells me whoever deny Jesus is not the son of God has a false spirit.
Mormor says Jesus is not the son of God, doesn't that make him a false spirit.

Maybe u guys should stick to the actual narrative - Isa said he's not the son of Allah. We don't care.

The day u respect Jesus the way we want u to respect him, that's the day u should demand we should respect Mormor the way u want him respected.

Anything apart from this is postponement of the D day.

Layi4real:
Let me remind u that we are speaking English here and not the language of jesus I.e Hebrew or Language of Muhammad i.e Arabic. so me as a Muslim calling prophet Isa as Jesus is very right because that is the English name for it. check it anywhere just like I can call Allah as God too bcus that is the translational word for it. There is nothing like been a trouble maker because both Christians and Muslims borrowed the English language to translate the original text of the holy book for us to understand.
Another thing is that Quran didn't steal from the bible as the Qur'an was revealed to Muhammad directly from God through angel Gabriel. And if u check well the story of Jesus and Mary in the Qur'an is slightly different and more preserved than what is in Ur bible. The Quran version is the perfect and not tampered story of Jesus Nd Mary. The Quran talk about them and other prophet that comes before Jesus as well. so quran did not copy from any book.

Let me school u about bowing to kaabah. Muslims face the kaabah for worship they do not worship the kaabah which u call Blackstone. saying they worship the Blackstone is like u saying the Christians that goes to churches and knelt to the Sculpture of Mary or Jesus are worshipping the bronze or clay used in making the sculpture. The early Christians too has a tradition of facing the he East to worship too. so don't put mouth for wetin Uno understand.

If I think Jesus is not in the Quran goan get Ursef English Quran and see if u won't see Jesus clearly written there.

No problem. But just know that u can't tell Christians what they seem as blasphemy neither can I tell a Muslim what they seem blasphemy.

The problem with u is u view the world thru an Islamic lens this whatever Quran say is true and must be enforced.

But if I do the same with the bible then I see no problem calling Mormor a false prophet or Allah a pagan god. because my Bible tells me to do just that.

U don't tell me what provokes me as a Christian just like I don't tell u what provokes u as a Muslim.
The idea that Muslims should be the one that determines what's provocative for all religion makes no sense.

U don't tell me how to respect the Jesus Christ in the bible, we should be the one to tell u.


Otherwise I will use my own bible to decide what to respect in the Quran and I'm sorry to say I can barely see anything at all.

My bible clearly tells me bowing before a stone or any image at all is paganism. It doesn't matter who does it be it Christian or Muslim...paganism is paganism.

And facing a direction is completely different to bowing towards a direction. As a man with mass in space, I will always face a direction in spatial orientation so it's dumb for u to equivocate bowing to facing.
But it's the Islamic logic/reasoning we dealing with here so not surprised.

And as for Mary being 12, that's a big lie. She was called a woman in the bible and a woman is a female who has completed puberty and that is around 14-16 yrs.
Besides 12 yr old female is called little girl in the bible and not a woman

Finally Isa is not Yasu, he's not Yehushua, he's not Jesus. He's an impostor.
Isa and Yehushua has no phonetical or linguistic connection. We don't know him, he's the one who said he's not the son of Allah and we don't care.

Layi4real:
u don't decide who is imposter. ISA is an Arabic word and Jesus is the English translation of Isa or Yasu whatever u called it just like Moses is the English name for Musa and David for Dawud. So We believe in Jesus aswell but he is not a God but prophet of God. Check the English translation of Isa from any site it will bring jesus and I'm sure u are not smarter than Google or AI and those behind it aren't Muslims

U see u guys are seen as trouble makers. Why must u mention Jesus, why don't u let us know Isa is not the son of Allah.
No because u know that wouldn't make sense. U have to borrow from the book called corrupt to propagate your message.
That is provocation.

Now my Bible tells me any prophet that denies Jesus is divine is a false prophet.
My Bible tells me any prophet that says Jesus is not Son of God is a false prophet.
So tell me why I cannot call Momor a false prophet.

The God I worship tells me in my bible that bowing before a stone is idolatry and paganism. He clearly condemns it.
So why can't I call Allah a pagan god.

Now if I do that, u Muslims will go gaga shouting provocation and looking for blood to spill.
But u turn around to justify why Christians should be provoked.
Muhammed is not in the bible and Jesus is not in the Quran.
For peace to reign each party should desist mentioning characters not mentioned in their book.

If u should guys shout from now till tmrw that Isa is not a son of God, no Christians will even bother to respond.
So why don't u guys pursue this peace plan?

Layi4real:
one thing u should know is that Jesus is not only limited to Christianity. Both Christians and Muslims believe in Jesus but the way we view him are different. if u call it blasphemy that jesus is son of God Muslims too will call it blasphemy calling Jesus God because in our holy book jesus is a messenger of God Nd prophet of God. it's only blasphemy when jesus has nothing to do with Muslim too. but the same can't be say about Christian saying trash about Muhammad bcus u people don't believe in him Nd bliv not to have record of him in Ur scripture.

U guys don't have Jesus in your Quran. The Arabic word for Jesus is Yasu. Arabic Christians have been calling Jesus Yasu in their language even b4 Muhammed was born.

What u have in your Quran is Isa and we don't know him. We don't care whatever this Isa called himself because he's an impostor unknown to Christians.

It is Isa that is not the son of God. Why can't u guys stick to that. Yeshua or Yehosua is not in anyway linked to Isa. Both names don't connect phonetically or linguistically.

Jesus Christ and it's transliterations came from Latinised name of our saviour. Jesus Christ is not related to Muslims in anyway.

A time is coming when all this imposition will be justly addressed. Isa is the one who said he's not the Son of God. That is the Muslim prophet, u guys should stick to him.

Layi4real:
Did jesus call himself prophet or not? did the bible referred him as prophet or not? the answer is yes.
Jesus did not say those exact words plainly that He is God but He made statements understood as claiming divinity unlike him saying directly he is prophet..... Muslims only call him what he called himself and no Muslims will ever curse any prophet of the book neither will they called them whatever the bible didn't call them. it's the bible that is insulting jesus not the Muslims

Jesus clearly said he's the Son of God but u guys denied it. And go about saying he's not the son of God, that's blasphemy. All Christians agree Jesus is the Son of God, u can't be a Christian if u deny the claim.

If Christians go about hacking to death people who said Jesus is not the son of God, will that not lead to a war btw Christians and Muslims.

Keep your insulting respect to yourself. We don't need it. U deny what someone said he is but claim u respect him.
What kind of respect is that?

Lukuluku69:
So, the Spirit or whatever Spirit that was controlling those Christians when they kill and burn at the stake those who questioned your Bible as warning to others passed on or did it just repented and became "born again" in the present age?

Lol

Always with the verbal Turd 😆

Very soon I will ban u from mentioning me. At your old age with grey hair, u lack the mental dexterity to engage in civil discussion without recourse to foul language.

I'm sure u have kids who are already adults, if u no get shame, pity your kids and borrow shame. Otherwise I will do them the honour by stopping u making a ful of yourself at over 40.

Talking to me is a privilege not a right. U gain from my wealth of knowledge and in-depth theological assessment. I gain nothing from u.

Or Are u not the one that said using moon to determine time and season is divine. To imagine he made such absurd statement with so much arrogant and ignorant confidence. Yes dey smell.

P1PrinceKT:
Do you think a prophet is an ordinary person?
When we say a person is a prophet we don't take him for granted, may be to your own perspective anyone can just wake up and become a prophet.

God is bigger than having a son. Having a son or someone to inherit you is one of the sign of weaknesses a human possess.

Then keep it to yourself. Isa in the Quran is not Jesus Christ in the bible.
Isa is not the son of Allah. No problem, it's your belief.
My bible clearly states multiple times that Jesus is the Son of God. Do not blaspheme by saying Jesus Christ is not the Son of God.

If Christians start going around hacking to death those who say Jesus is not the son of God, will that not put Muslims in a difficult position and eventually lead to full blown war? I just don't understand why u guys don't think things thru.

Don't even think Christians can't relapse to that level of murderous tone because they did so in the past. People who challenged what's in the bible in the dark ages were burnt to the stake to serve as a warning to others.

Na civility and deeper knowledge make Christianity embrace tolerance. Don't go about provoking people just like u rightly said. Live your religion and let others live theirs.

fyneboi79:
If you can believe a woman got pregnant without meeting sexually with a man to birth a messiah who was later crucified among criminals No half education is worse.

If it was prophesied messiah will be born by a virgin and killed publicly, then your argument is invalid and deservedly thrown out.
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Jman06:
She's delusional. Only the never --do --well kind of guys would rush her because of money! No real man worth his balls would marry a woman with the intention of surviving on her.

Guy be real, that's 99% of Nigerian men. Na survival mode all of una dey.
Are u not the ones always shouting what can a women bring to the table.
She be asset to her husband and she knows that very well, and she's also pretty. Case closed.

What can we say....can we condemn girls doing hook up.

When Oga Seun himself is advertising codedruns on nairaland as if na better thing.

Na society create the menace and should deal with the consequences

sonmvayina:
https://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/15980/jewish/Chapter-49.htm

I posted a link to read a better translation of the chapter.
Remember Isaiah is the one writing, he is the "I"....
Why are you taking him away from his narrative?

So u mean Isaiah is the servant mentioned in the servant song. Isaiah is the one called Israel in the book of Isaiah?? No longer nation of Israel?

The LORD said to me, “You are my servant, Israel...

Are u telling me Isaiah is the servant that will gather Israel and Jacob together back to the LORD?
How did he accomplish this? If Isaiah is the servant, did he fulfil this prophecy When and how and where

5 And now the Lord says—
he who formed me in the womb to be his servant
to bring Jacob back to him
and gather Israel to himself,

Finally u mean Isaiah is the Lord's servant to bring salvation to the world and be a light for all nations?
Isaiah is the servant that will let the world know about the one true God?
Pray, how and when did Isaiah fulfill this prophecy

At this point all I can say is only God can help u to see the truth staring at u.

Seun:
Guys, the old testament was quoted out of context. Please let's create a new thread for "biblical promises" if we can't relate it to the topic.

Chief Seun, kindly show us where and when the old testament was quoted out of context.

sonmvayina:
See Isaiah 45:1-7, the answer is there. God himself told you....Go argue with God.

It is the same servant that is suffering because of the iniquities of their enemies round them.
It's like you taking a line from Chinua Achebe's "Things Fall Apart" and saying it is referring to Tinubu..... Because you see somebody who said "it's my turn".......that is dumb.

U call yourself a Jew but completely ignorant of the Jewish scriptures. U have zero clue of the Midrash.

Now your argument hinges on servant in servant song is nation of Israel as if Israel is only applied for nation in the tanakh.

The same servant song expose u.
Isaiah 49

He said to me, “You are my servant,
Israel, in whom I will display my splendor.”
4 But I said, “I have labored in vain;
I have spent my strength for nothing at all.
Yet what is due me is in the Lord’s hand,
and my reward is with my God.”

5 And now the Lord says—
he who formed me in the womb to be his servant
to bring Jacob back to him
and gather Israel to himself,
for I am honored in the eyes of the Lord
and my God has been my strength—

This passage confirms the Lord has chosen his servant called Israel who was declared a servant right from the womb- this is a strong indication that the servant called Israel has human attributes because he was formed in the womb.

Moreover
Isaiah 49: 3-6 proves that “Israel” is an individual:
Verse 3:
“You are My servant, Israel, in whom I will be glorified.”
Verse 5–6:
The same servant is sent to bring Jacob back to God and restore Israel.
The servant cannot be the nation if he is tasked with restoring the nation.
This strongly supports the interpretation of the Servant as:
a representative individual, from within Israel, but not the same as the whole nation.

The servant is the messiah. Read Isaiah 52.
Ancient Rabbi all said the servant is the messiah.

sonmvayina:
Whaaaaaaaaaaat?
So you will understline one line from a continuous story and run awày with it and think it is talking about somebody
You will remove a text from its proper context and analyse one line.....you fall my hand. It is a continuous story forget about the verses Isaiah did not add them. Read the dam story and know the message he is passing. Read it in context...and stop isolating texts....

Who is the servant mentioned in Isaiah 52?

sonmvayina:
Isaiah 53, not 43.....
Bring it out.

Ok I will bring it but I sincerely hope this settle the matter.

For your info, Targum is the Aramaic translation of the Hebrew Bible translated and written by Jewish rabbi themselves and read out loud in the synagogues during the era when Aramaic had become the mother tongue of Jews and few could speak Hebrew.

I will show u the servant mentioned in the servant songs of Isaiah 42, 49, 50, 52 and 53 is the messiah according to Jews.

I will also show u The messiah is mentioned in Isaiah 53

sonmvayina:
https://www.nairaland.com/6612275/isaiah-53-why-suffering-servant

Have u heard of Targum?
Ok, if I show u that the Jews themselves wrote that Isaiah 43 is about the Messiah IN THEIR OWN SCRIPTURE, will this end the argument.

sonmvayina:
I have explained this a thousand times. I even open a thread about it.
Isaiah 53 is about a suffering servant. And 8+ times prior to Isaiah 53, he told you who the servant is, like see Isaiah 45:1-7.
Isaiah 53 is about Israel as the suffering ervant. It is what the kings of the earth would say when they withness the redemption of the Jews. See my thread on this topic.
It is the kings of the earth that is talking..
"Who will believe what we(the kings of the earth) have heard(the redemption of Israel) .....
It is not a messianic prophecy. There is no death or ressuration. The servant days will be prolonged and he shall see his offspring(children) and God's will shall prosper in his hands.

Send me a link to this thread, let me debunk it

I've gone thru the different resurrection accounts in the 4 gospel and amazing thing I noticed is there's actually no contradiction at all.
In fact the different stories complement each other and when merged together the resurrection events makes logical sense.

To give validity to my claim, let's go through the so called resurrection contradictions.



1. How many women visited the Tomb?

The important thing to note here is that none of the gospel writers said 'only' a particular number visited the tomb. They simply mentioned names of women they knew that visited the tomb.
actual logical contradiction requires exclusionary clauses such as “only x, y, and z were there and no one else” or “only three people witnessed incident a.” None of the Gospel texts do that here; hence, no demonstrable contradiction exists (see Matthew 28:1; Mark 16:1; Luke 24:1-10; John 20:1).

Gospel of John seemingly makes it like only Mary Magdalene visited the tomb until we get to John 20:2. Mary finds the tomb empty, runs to Peter and (presumably) John, and says the following, “They have taken away the Lord out of the tomb, and WE do not know where they have laid Him.”

In reporting the words of Mary, John reveals that there were others with Mary.

2. Number of angels

The area which has generated the most discussion concerns the angels who were at the tomb of Jesus. Matthew and Mark relate that one angel addressed the women, while Luke and John say that two angels were at the tomb. This seems to be a discrepancy, with Matthew and Mark knowing of only one angel while Luke and John speak of two. However, Matthew and Mark do not say that there was only one angel at the tomb, but that one angel spoke to the women.

This does not contradict Luke and John, for Matthew and Mark specify that one angel spoke, but they do not say there was only one angel present or only one angel spoke. Quite possibly, one of the angels served as the spokesman for the two, thus he was emphasized.


3. . Who rolled the stone away

The issue with this question is centrally dealing with whether the stone was rolled away from the tomb when the women arrived. Notice that all but one account are in definite agreement. Mark, Luke, and John all say the stone had been moved when the women arrived. It is only Matthew who reports, or appears to report, that the stone was moved as the women were there. So let’s take a careful reading of the verses in question.


Now after the Sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to look at the grave. And behold, a severe earthquake had occurred, for an angel of the Lord descended from heaven and came and rolled away the stone and sat upon it. (Mt. 28:1-2)

The event in verse 2 had already happened before the women arrived. They did not witness the earthquake or the angel rolling the stone. By the time they arrived the tomb, the stone was already rolled away. Matthew is only telling the readers how the stones was rolled away.


4. What happened after they left the tomb.

This is another area where we have a large degree of agreement between the Gospels. To varying degrees, the Gospels each report that the disciples were told. Or at least it was the intent to tell the disciples, which is all Matthew reveals. I will merge my explanation here with another seemingly contradiction which is who among the women saw Jesus.

If we study the accounts carefully, we can make the FF logical conclusion;

Mary Magdalene & the other women travel from Bethany to Jesus’ tomb.

Nearing the tomb, they notice the stone is rolled away. Mary runs to tell Peter and John while the rest of the women continued to the tomb.

With no corpse, empty tomb and encounter with strange men; the other women were initially shocked and took time for them to recover from these extraordinary encounter, until they got over their shock they told nobody.

Mary Magdalene returns to Jesus’ tomb with Peter and John.

Peter and John return to the house after seeing the empty tomb. Mary stays behind where she sees Jesus.

Afterwards, the other women returned to Bethany, stopping first in the city to report their findings to Clopas and other disciples. Thereafter, Jesus appears to the other women as they’re headed back to Bethany.

Another popular contradiction bible critics love to raise is the time the women visited the tomb which I will explain here.

All accounts indicate that it was early on the first day of the week. Matthew says it was as the day began to dawn. Mark, Luke and John all say “early”. The difficulty comes when we see John say that it was still dark, yet Mark say that the sun had risen.
Sunrise could vary in appearance depending on subjective observation. What is dark to some could be cloudy to another.
So these terms in reference to the same approximate time of day are not mutually exclusive.

Moreover, another explanation could be where the women journeyed from.
Earlier in the week some of the disciples lodged at Bethany, two miles from Jerusalem. It’s possible that the women were staying there for the Sabbath, and when John says it was “still dark”, he’s referring to the time they left Bethany and “went to the tomb”.
That’s more than enough time to go from “still dark” (Jn. 20:1) to “when the sun had risen” (Mk. 16:2).

If any other seemingly contradiction is left out, raise it and let's debunk it together.

It's another Easter and we have some anti ressurection conspiracy theorists throwing ignorant jabs at the ressurection stories pointing at weak contradictions that have been thoroughly debunked and perfect justice has been done to harmonize the ressurection stories in the 4 gospel.

Well since Seun has joined them, I think we should do another re education for our atheist and agnostic friends on the ressurection story.


Here is my response to the resurrection contradiction claim.


I've gone thru the different resurrection accounts in the 4 gospel and the there's actually no contradiction at all.
In fact the different stories complement each other and when merged together the resurrection events makes logical sense



1. How many women visited the Tomb?

The important thing to note here is that none of the gospel writers said 'only' a particular number visited the tomb. They simply mentioned names of women they knew that visited the tomb.
actual logical contradiction requires exclusionary clauses such as “only x, y, and z were there and no one else” or “only three people witnessed incident a.” None of the Gospel texts do that here; hence, no demonstrable contradiction exists (see Matthew 28:1; Mark 16:1; Luke 24:1-10; John 20:1).

Gospel of John seemingly makes it like only Mary Magdalene visited the tomb until we get to John 20:2. Mary finds the tomb empty, runs to Peter and (presumably) John, and says the following, “They have taken away the Lord out of the tomb, and WE do not know where they have laid Him.”

In reporting the words of Mary, John reveals that there were others with Mary.

2. Number of angels

The area which has generated the most discussion concerns the angels who were at the tomb of Jesus. Matthew and Mark relate that one angel addressed the women, while Luke and John say that two angels were at the tomb. This seems to be a discrepancy, with Matthew and Mark knowing of only one angel while Luke and John speak of two. However, Matthew and Mark do not say that there was only one angel at the tomb, but that one angel spoke to the women.

This does not contradict Luke and John, for Matthew and Mark specify that one angel spoke, but they do not say there was only one angel present or only one angel spoke. Quite possibly, one of the angels served as the spokesman for the two, thus he was emphasized.


3. . Who rolled the stone away

The issue with this question is centrally dealing with whether the stone was rolled away from the tomb when the women arrived. Notice that all but one account are in definite agreement. Mark, Luke, and John all say the stone had been moved when the women arrived. It is only Matthew who reports, or appears to report, that the stone was moved as the women were there. So let’s take a careful reading of the verses in question.


Now after the Sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to look at the grave. And behold, a severe earthquake had occurred, for an angel of the Lord descended from heaven and came and rolled away the stone and sat upon it. (Mt. 28:1-2)

The event in verse 2 had already happened before the women arrived. They did not witness the earthquake or the angel rolling the stone. By the time they arrived the tomb, the stone was already rolled away. Matthew is only telling the readers how the stones was rolled away.


4. What happened after they left the tomb.

This is another area where we have a large degree of agreement between the Gospels. To varying degrees, the Gospels each report that the disciples were told. Or at least it was the intent to tell the disciples, which is all Matthew reveals. I will merge my explanation here with another seemingly contradiction which is who among the women saw Jesus.

If we study the accounts carefully, we can make the FF logical conclusion;

Mary Magdalene & the other women travel from Bethany to Jesus’ tomb.

Nearing the tomb, they notice the stone is rolled away. Mary runs to tell Peter and John while the rest of the women continued to the tomb.

With no corpse, empty tomb and encounter with strange men; the other women were initially shocked and took time for them to recover from these extraordinary encounter, until they got over their shock they told nobody.

Mary Magdalene returns to Jesus’ tomb with Peter and John.

Peter and John return to the house after seeing the empty tomb. Mary stays behind where she sees Jesus.

Afterwards, the other women returned to Bethany, stopping first in the city to report their findings to Clopas and other disciples. Thereafter, Jesus appears to the other women as they’re headed back to Bethany.

Another popular contradiction bible critics love to raise is the time the women visited the tomb which I will explain here.

All accounts indicate that it was early on the first day of the week. Matthew says it was as the day began to dawn. Mark, Luke and John all say “early”. The difficulty comes when we see John say that it was still dark, yet Mark say that the sun had risen.
Sunrise could vary in appearance depending on subjective observation. What is dark to some could be cloudy to another.
So these terms in reference to the same approximate time of day are not mutually exclusive.

Moreover, another explanation could be where the women journeyed from.
Earlier in the week some of the disciples lodged at Bethany, two miles from Jerusalem. It’s possible that the women were staying there for the Sabbath, and when John says it was “still dark”, he’s referring to the time they left Bethany and “went to the tomb”.
That’s more than enough time to go from “still dark” (Jn. 20:1) to “when the sun had risen” (Mk. 16:2).

Omoawoke:
So is the Bible / Christianity version the correct one?

The Virgin story in the bible is an independent narrative. It has not a comparison to any other ancient virgin birth.

What makes the Virgin birth of Jesus pretty solid is it was actually prophesied. A prophet 700 yrs b4 Jesus wrote down that a miracle will happen as a sign in the future and this will be a virgin girl given birth.

This is very reassuring to us Christians that the Virgin birth wasnt copied from some mythical stories of other ancient religions.

The Virgin birth in Judaism was already foretold 300 years b4 ancient Greek civilization even existed.

sonmvayina:
Christianity is the fakest religion ever. It is built of absurdities. It is founded on pagan ideology and human sacrifice. Something the creator detest. He even said "Thou shall NOT kill" That does not sound like somebody who wants or likes human sacrifice??

Then explain Isaiah 53

musicwriter:
As Omoawoke has rightly advised earlier, you need to go and really research these things because lies are often intertwined with truth such that it takes time to separate the lies from the truths or half truths. It will take you up to 5 years of research to discover the truth.

Indeed, the religion that would later be called Christianity originated right here in Africa but it wasn't called Christianity. See attachment for a comparison of the attributes of the ancient Egyptian son of God Horus (7,000 years ago) and Jesus Christ (2,000 years ago).

But then, came European invaders who changed everything and turned everything upside down.

For your information, two European nations Greece and Rome conquered North Africa from 332 BCC (which in ancient time included the place now called Israel and Palestine) and they began fashioning out a God in their image.

They took a piece of the story of a saviour from different cultures near them and began fashioning a God. The first human being who ever called himself "Christ" was a European king named Ptolemy Soter. He forced Africans to worship him. Yes!

Seeing that their exploit was successful in Africa and the so called Middle East, they exported the concept of a universal saviour into Europe. It was all about the purpose of political control. Rome has acquired massive amount of colonies that it was no longer easily able to control. But if they could believe in one saviour instead of different Gods, then it will be easier to control the population. That was the idea.

So, the Christianity of today is not the same one that was in Africa before Europeas arrived ancient Egypt in ancient time (which includd Israel and Palestine in ancient time). Christianity today is European version of Christianity.

Think of it like Apple manufacturing phones cheaper in China and exporting it back to home country USA to sell.

Claims that the ancient Egyptian god Horus was born of a virgin are widespread online, but they are not supported by any actual Egyptian texts or archaeology, they are nothing but conspiracy theories rightly rejected by Egyptologists.

According to mainstream Egyptology, the story of Horus’ birth is very different from the modern narratives circulating on social media.

In authentic Egyptian mythology, Horus is the son of Isis and Osiris. After Osiris was murdered by his brother Seth, Isis recovered and magically reassembled his body. Using her powers, she briefly revived Osiris long enough to conceive Horus.

Their union—though magical—is still a sexual conception. Therefore, Isis is not depicted as a virgin in any ancient text.

Egyptian inscriptions and funerary texts such as the Pyramid Texts, Coffin Texts, and the Book of the Dead all affirm this storyline. Horus’ birth represents divine kingship, protection, and the continuation of Osiris’ legacy, not virginity.

The idea of Horus being born of a virgin comes from modern writers, not ancient Egyptians.
Several factors helped create this misconception:
1. Misinterpretation of Isis’ Titles
Isis was sometimes called “Mother of the God,” which some modern authors falsely equated with virginity. However, this title never implied that she conceived without sexual union.

2. Mixing Myths
Modern storytellers sometimes combine Horus with other solar deities or child-god images, creating a hybrid myth that never existed historically.

3. Modern Pop Culture and Pseudohistory
Films like Zeitgeist and older 19th-century writers such as Gerald Massey (not trained in Egyptology) spread claims of virgin births, crucifixions, and resurrections that are not present in Egyptian religion.

What Egyptologists Say
Professional Egyptologists—including Jan Assmann, Erik Hornung, and James Allen—universally agree:

There is no ancient Egyptian account of Horus being born of a virgin.
The virgin-birth narrative is a modern fabrication and does not appear anywhere in the original mythology.

OSUigboFlatHead:
USA and lies... The king of conspiracies.

The fools still thinks we're in the 70s

SO, A PLACE THEY CAN GO, LAND, MAKE CALLS AND EVEN TOOK PICTURES MORE THAN 50 YEARS AGO IS IMPOSSIBLE NOW?
They said they can only go around it now, but 50 years ago, they had the technology to land on it


The funniest was even the landline call of that nonsense Apollo mission.

If you believed that USA actually went to the moon in the 70s, you need your head to be checked.

But if China sends man to land on the moon today, will u believe it?

SmartPolician:
Keep playing - AI will get better with time.

AI will only get better to threaten digital jobs like coders and software developers, nothing more.
Outside of that, AI hype will burst.

Just like Oracle, lots of these tech companies are investing heavily into AI with the hope of its widespread use.
But the problem is adoption on other sectors is slow and those that implemented AI complained they didn't see the cost reduction or financial benefit they were promised by adopting AI. Few even noticed an increase in their running cost despite use of AI.

For example, no matter how super intelligent Dr AI is, if it can't resolve hallucinations and false data generation problems, no hospital will touch it and medical regulatory agencies will not approve it. Better to have a human doctors making mistake- and disciplined, than allowing Dr AI prescribe penicillin for a pxt with allergy to penicillin and nothing can be done about it.

The fact remain expectation is not meeting reality when it comes to AI.

Now these tech companies are running out of investor's money and pushing themselves into debt. Reason why we see Oracle sacking workers so it can free money to continue investing into AI.

Another bigger problem are the data centres, they consume lots of energy and water. At the moment, regulators are a bit lax because of the believe benefits of AI outweigh the disadvantage. But if AI doesn't start solving real world problems, tech problems risk losing social permission to burn already scarce and expensive electricity to keep data centres running.

fxexperts:
Bro i understand alot about AI and its development. AI keeps getting better every single passing day, so expect it to keep giving more better results, because AI will give you feedback strictly based on its training. Humans are the ones who train AI an as humans also make mistake so AI can do same, and why AI is getting better than human is because we are trying to eliminate the human mistake from AI. Talking about self driving cars the reason we do not have full autonomous driving cars yet is because we have not succeeded in making all our roads. like i said i was involved some time ago in training self driving cars and trust me that was when i learnt alot about the markings we see on our roads and the meaning attached to them. Human drivers especially here in Nigeria do not even know what those marking means, but AI self driving does and they are respected by AI hence accident will be reduced. When we succeeded in successfully mapping all our roads and maps, trust me AI will take over completely from humans.

When I'm talking of autonomous driving, I'm not talking of some backwater 3rd world countries.
I'm talking of self driving in see developed countries. In USA, a lady just sued tesla because the self driving system drove her into a river..is river path of road ?

My wife stopped using self driving because it always take her to block roads, sometimes it misread proximity of cars and move too close to them. These has nothing to do with bad roads.

Lok here, I use AI and I admit it's very good with anything computer or detailed repetitive knowledge. It's a genius in that...but to say it will take away all jobs is a bubble that will burst.

I repeat the bigger the AI and the more people use it, the bigger will be the problem. It's simply nature, and I don't see AI cheating nature.

When man discovered antibiotics, we thought that's the end of infection but antibiotic resistant bacteria became a problem.
When man discovered airplane, finally we were confident man could fly like a bird, but today people will rather wish they have alternative means of transportation to get to far places.
AI will not be an exception. I just don't know what will stop Al from generating false information. If it doesn't understand what u saying, it would be forced to input data to ensure the flow of information is consistent and smooth.

fxexperts:
Even AI will replace handwork too. Just be smart thats the only way to compete with AI.

Sales personnel are the ones who i think their job will be hardly replaced by AI, because of the human touch involved.

AI will respond faster to any query by your kids faster than any teacher known.

AI will still take over those jobs; they get trained to do so, and they are very logical in it.

AI has serious limitations and it's a hype that will bust.

I repeat, we've had self driving cars for 10 yrs now and it's not reliable at all. No country is yet to approve autonomous driving without a driver.

In medicine, one will expect X-rays, scans, ECG to be chicken change for AI, but recurrent misreading will not allow independent report of AI.
And let's not talk about hallucinations and preponderance to generate false information. The bigger it gets and the more people use it; the bigger this problems. That's what u guys don't understand.

TheStoriesOfMan:
Chief calm down. With billion investments in neural network, give it 5-10 years.

Let them sort AI hallucinations first.

And if they succeed, my first paragraph still stand.

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