poundlander:
@mr abdelkabir, you can always pass your point without preempting anyone sir.
also, you can't possibly know how a woman feel about polygamy since you are not a woman.
as a man, i will seek d permission and approval of my wife before engaging another woman.
a lady sited the case of Fatimah and Ali, but you responded that their case is different, how different is it? isn't Ali, a caliphah aware that the intended woman is/was a khafir, before even having the intention.
in conclusion, the sheikh you quoted only said his own position that HE is mot aware of any proof, that doesn't ruleout the possibility of one.
ma salam sir

Empiree:
Thanks sissie.

I think ikupakuti's post has been partly restored

AbdelKabir:
I hope this thread won't be over taken by some overzealous women again like it was in the past...because you never see them contributing in something intellectual and benefiting..... But by the time they see such threads as this, you see them as if they've just been released from their caves..

WAllaahul musta'aan

lartty:
My problem is that, it is hard for a muslim to get a psychologist or counsellor that won't introduce him/her to a pastor. i wish i can get someone i could trust.

onegig:


First depression has no religion or race and anyone using your current predicament to try and lure you or "gain a soul" is utterly wicked and doesn't have your best interest at heart.

Yeah, sometimes we may need to pray to try and solve a problem but not on this pretext and not when the person is at their lowest ebb.

As for whatever you are going through. You can actually type it out here and I am sure most would like to help you. Sometimes what we need is just a bit of talk.If it is however a bit personal. You could send Sissie a pm. I guess she could find a way around finding you the right channels to open your heart.

Jarus:


Yes, World Book of Encyclopedia is a book of fallacy.




You see why I don't come here again? Here is how low the level of reasoning here has reached since some of us left about 8 years ago.

If you want to leave, that's your business. I have gone past the level of getting worked up over someone leaving Islam. I assumed everyone here has the same level of reasoning with me in identifying basic falsehood.

latonyn:


Any interest-free I can do online and get paid for

latonyn:
Pls brothers and sisters, what online business can one venture in that will not contradict the laws of Islam.

tintingz:
The mods can ban me all they want, it shows the level of bias, sentiment filled in this section.

tbaba1234:


I miss Lagoshia because even though, we had clear differences in belief. He does not back people when they are dancing towards disbelief, he knew when to draw the line on sectarianism.

I am disappointed in your responses here.

Where will you draw the line on sectarianism and address some of the troubling remarks by this kid? Instead, you have quoted hadiths without contexts to support him.

AlBaqir:


# First, its ONLY you I have seen on this thread that agree wholeheartedly that some Sunni ahadith (especially in Bukhari and Muslim if that is your point) are lies and fabrications. Others will rather die protecting this book written 100+ years after the alleged author. If you also hold the view that those two books are like Quran, 100% free of error, then we do not agree o @underline.

# Second, history do not seem to favor early Muslims especially after the demise of the Prophet. That is a fact which many Muslims shy away from. Some even try their best to justify many heinous crime committed by some of these sahabah saying whatever they do Allah has forgiven them.

# Third, the only area I did not agree with tingtingz is his generalization sometimes, and many a times I had shown my disagreement. However, I haven't seen him attacking Quran . Only ahadith and some weird ideologies based on certain tafasir, fiqh ruling etc.

Sissie:


if you find it offensive (what he said), there is a report button, report it. what makes you sure i read or took note of all of friendchoice's post.

how i use to do is irrelevant, make your point without accusation.

tintingz:
What's offensive?

So when Friendchoice called me a foolish liar and even involved my unborn children is not offensive?

This is unfair, is that how you use to do? Continue, there is God.

AlBaqir:


# First am not talking about 16. Am talking about 6 - 9 years old child.

# In short, the alleged marriage of child Umm al-Mu'minin Aisha at age 6 then 9 with Nabi as documented by Bukhari is absolutely alright, according to you.


# I can see how you try hard to put justifications into this. The fact that it was a norm then, does that make it justifiable for Nabi and Aisha too? Anything Nabi did becomes Sunnah. Why do you argue its "immoral" today? Besides, many continue with it anyway especially in the north and their sole evidence as Muslim is that report.

# Lastly, madam, are you saying a child of 6 - 9 years old, then were deemed matured (physically and mentally, if that is what you meant) and same age today are deemed baby (not mature)?

tintingz:
Why are you hiding our post, it is unfair.

AlBaqir:


# So, you agree with the man (whoever he was) that wrote in the modern Sahih Bukhari that Nabi married Aisha at the age of 6, and consummated the marriage at 9?

That was 1600 years ago.

# "Faithful" Muslims practice same today. What make their different in timeline?

tintingz:


Here is a map:

tintingz:


If you really study psychology, you will know human savagery behavior.

The reasons people conquer is to expand their growth of land which is self-interest.

And which history book are you reading, vikings were not acting like barbarians? I have watched a series movie "vikings" they acted like barbarians fighting civilized nations.

In biological evolution, socio psychology, early humans were savages to the dark ages, which early Muslims also follow the trend of gang of savagery.

The British that acted like savages in the past, repented and gave these countries their freedom.

FriendChoice:


And those old military dictators knowledge is inferior to Nigeria's knowledge.

The knowledge of Nigeria is shown in the map below

tintingz:
These are statements of people who know better than you.

Among many others, Group-Captain (rtd) Jona Jang, former military governor of Benue State and the AD governorship candidate for Plateau in the last election, shared the same view with Lar. In an interview in The Comet of November 12, 2000, Jang’s emphasis in defining the Middle-Belt was again religion, even though he was quick to deny it. “We” he said, “have already stated what areas we consider the Middle-Belt, which are Southern Kebbi, Southern Kaduna, Southern Borno, Southern Bauchi, Southern Gombe, Adamawa, Taraba, Benue, Nassarawa, Kogi, the Federal Capital Territory, Kwara and Niger”. These are states or parts of states where Christians are in the majority.
http://www.gamji.com/haruna/haruna91.htm

tintingz:
My brother you can see the level of thier brainwashed program. I just SMH.

Imagine justify the conquest of Muhammad and early Muslims with ancient practice saying it was a norm to conquer and keep slaves, how i wish these people were among those conquered.

Conquering and keeping slaves was a savagery and barbarian act during dark ages, even bible god and his robotic men also did this savagery act, the new testament is like a repentance book the bible god did.

Many nation and tribes have lost their language, religion and culture due to invading, conquest by some greedy, power hungry, selfish barbarians. That's why I still respect countries like China and India.

tintingz:
So you support early Muslims conquering nations? Do you know the meaning when a group conquer another group and keep slaves?

Terror comes with violent, destructive(which is the same as terrorism) so saying Prophet Muhammad(SA) was a mercy to mankind is irony, it should be a terror to mankind(from hadith perspective)

And lastly, ISIS ARE MUSLIMS.

AlBaqir:


# I agree with you 100% but am afraid that doesn't move a troglodyte.

# For example, child marriage (8 - 9 year old child). What's your take on it, sincerely. Both Shia and Sunni have authentic ahadith that a 8 - 9 year Old child is ready for marriage.

tintingz:
The brainwash program we see causing mayhem, chaos in the northern part of Nigeria.

What I posted is/was just the plain reality, I apologize if it sound tribalism, I'm not a tribalist.

The thing is, the religious orientation in the south-west is different from that of north, although there are religious discrimination in the west but the north is way higher.

Mosque and church in south-west can be in the same compound, vicinity without no clash, people live in harmony, in the north it is a different story. Why this in the north? Is it because of the preachings they pass to the northern people or what?

Southwest people marry each other like my mum she was a christian before she married my Muslim father, imagine having christian family and Muslim family.