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@Gem87

You are right, I don't get your point


You asked why did God let homosexuality exists?


I told you the choices we make have nothing to do with God.

Do you know what free will is?

If we do not have free will, we will not do anything from the heart. We would be like robots with no soul.

God was aware of that. That is why God or the Creator or whatever people may call it, it gave us free will so that the choices we make would be because we chose.

Do you want someone to love you because you told them to love you?
Or, do you want them to love you because they chose to?

That is the difference.

gem87:
i hv an innocent qstn,
God knows everything ryt, and knows d end before d begining
i'm guessing he knew homosexuality ws going to exist and i dnt get y that shld be allowed
actually d bible confuses me, or shld i say the religion
i guess i'm not filled with d spirit because if i ws d truth would be revealed 2 me,
but all i'm askin is, God forgive me - why did he let homosexuality exist?

@ Gem87

Gem, God has nothing to do with Homosexuality. Homosexuality was a choice. No one was born that way, if they are that way they chose to be. To this day there is no biological evidence that explains homosexuality, you know why? It is a choice thats why. Biology can't determind why people made the choice to be gay.

Biology can tell why twins are born.

Biology can tell how a girl got her genitals and how a boy got his genitals.

Biology can tell what happen to cause a birth defect but biology can not tell us why homosexuality exists.

Some men just don't like a woman enough to want to be with her sexually and some woman don't like a man enough to be with him sexually. I can understand these reasons, although I am not gay.

I don't have anything against gay people but sometimes we just have to let people make their choices because they are the ones who will have to deal with the consequences, not us, the ones who can't understand.

@ gigitte

Yes I agree with you. It is so easy to blame God. Your right, pretty soon the pedophiles will be saying that God made them that way. So will the Transvestites

@ To All


I don't know about everyone else but I know for sure that Blacks in American are watching African movies.

We love the story lines even when they are lame. You know why we love them? Because we can relate to the lameness. It is just so exciting to see Africans in Africa the connection we have no matter what part of the planet earth we are at, The humor and the love situations. Black people are so humorous

It would be good when the quality gets better but I still enjoy them. Has anyone seen "Phat Girls" It is a black American movie but it is about a love relationship between a Black American woman and a Black African man. It is os funny, you guys have to see it.

@ To All


I don't know about everyone else but I know for sure that African Americans are watching African movies.

We love the story lines even when they are lame. You know why we love them? Because we can relate to the lameness. It is just so exciting to see Africans in Africa the connection we have no matter what part of the planet earth we are at, The humor and the love situations. Black people are so humorous

It would be good when the quality gets better but I still enjoy them. Has anyone seen "Phat Girls" It is a black American movie but it is about a love relationship between a Black American woman and a Black African man. It is os funny, you guys have to see it.

@ darkmanzero


Yes, I am a black woman and I would not kiss an Asian either. Not that I think something is wrong with them I just enjoy kissing a black man so there is no need for me to look else where.

But, if she will not kiss him, he must be confused. Why is he saying she is his girlfriend? What is he getting the impression from that she is his girlfriend?

She won't kiss him because he is Asian but she will date him and represent as his girlfriend? I don't get it.

They must be young

That is a terrible thing, I am sorry for who ever that happen to. If this is in Nigeria that is going to be tuff. It is hard for a female to declare such a thing. If you have a strong family that supports you, you should tell them and see how they guide you.

If this were me, I am so rebellious that I would have told on his azz a long time ago. He would not be a preacher if he did not apologize to me. If he has not apologized that means he is a fake and his is misleading his followers. I wouldn't be surprised if he hasn't raped any of the church members.

Maybe the person this happen to could put together a secret society, you no like underground. A underground womens group. In this group you will probably find that other women experienced the same problem. Those women could become the supporter of the woman this horrible thing happen to. Who knows, maybe it will turn into a situation where the preacher is confronted with his past demands by all the women he did this to.

@Bluenubian

omg u sound like u really know what u saying.

Actually homosexuality existed before the white man came, the romans practiced homosexuality, even our forefathers_{yes i said it}. but the way it was practiced, was different.

I never said the romans were our forefather. I said the ancient romans practiced homosexuality. U twist everything I say to your advantage. I guess that's your own defense mechanism.

Look at the difference between your first quote and your second quote. If you are saying Homosexuality existed before the white man came into Africa, you are in a sense saying Africans were already participating in Homosexual acts first. To back up your theory that blacks were practicing homosexuality you said this next,

Anyways its the white man the brought anti gay-ism with its missionary work to Africa.

Let me finish breaking down your first quote,

the romans practiced homosexuality, even our forefathers_{yes i said it}. but the way it was practiced, was different.

In this quote it would seem as though you are saying your forefathers are Africans but then what would be your point in then saying,

the romans practiced homosexuality, even our forefathers

who would be the forefathers in this sense? because you pointed out the Romans first I looked at as she must not know the Romans were white, because why would you even bring them up if your point was homosexuality existed in Africa long before the white man came? When the Romans are the white man? That is why my response to you was,


@ Bluenubian

I know you don't think the Romans were black!

Usaid I must be catholic and I confirmed that I was. I didn't come here to preach christianity to no one. I was simply answering your questions. u call me racist is cause I called u racist. Do I sense some guilt?

I guessed that you had to be catholic because although I am no longer a catholic, I was raised Catholic, went to Catholic school and all so I have knowledge of what Catholics teach. They teach you that Jesus and Mary was white. They teach you that our forefathers were those great philosophers such as the romans and the Greeks. They teach you that we are all brothers and sisters. The stuff you were repeating based on how you were raised in the catholic religion is the same stuff I used to believe. But, it dawned on me that if we are all brothers and sisters, why don't they acknowledgd us (black people) in their church. I later learned that it was the mission of the catholics to take over, this process is called spiritual warfare. If you believe your creator is white and you are black, you will subconsciously submit to all that is white. This process is call programming. That is how I guessed you were a catholic my sister, I have already been through what you are now experiencing.

No where did I call u a christian. Cause I call u a hypocrite does not mean am calling u a christian.

I asked u about your signature. U change topic and start preaching hypocrtical christians to me. Focus girl!! Focu

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At no point did I say anything that referred to you calling me a christian. As a matter a fact I was the one who called you a christian and you confirmed it.
As far as expalining to you about my signature I did explain that, I did not over look that apparently you did,



[b]I am very focused however you don't seem to be. In your first response to me, you seemed to be flapping at the mouth without paying attention to the detail of what you were saying. I don't judge either my sister, if you didn't over look it I also told you I go according to Character. I am not arguing with you I believe that we are having an adult conversation. We are both entitled to express our self and that is what we do in these discussions. I love my African sisters and brothers, I wish I could visit Africa more often to be close to you. However, I don't have the funds to travel that way so I use this sight to stay in touch with you. Even when we argue I still feel love. I would rather argue with you every now and then, than to not speak with you at all.

I hope I cleared up my interpretation of what you said and I hope we can move on.

One thing I will not condone and that is the mistreatment of any brother or sister because of the sexual activity they choose to participate in.

bluenubian:
And look at your signature. Love your brothers and sisters, yet u talk all this crap about white people. I guess whites are not considered brethrens. Damn hippocrite!!

@Blunubian


I am not a Christian, the Christian religion is hypercritical that is why most Christians are hypocrites. look at you saying I should be persecuted. How can you be a Christian and advocate all the violent things you said to me? That is what most Christians do. On one hand love god and advocate peace on the other hand if we don't get our way because our way is best and Godly advocate war , Hypocrites.

As I was saying, I am not a Christian so I don't share your belief that all people are my bretherens. If you are trying to kill me and my people, you are not my brethren. I don't believe in turning the left cheek and from the looks of it neither do you.

bluenubian:
@ sista
People like u make me sick. Am glad we have a choice who we chose to hang around. Don't try to cover up your stupid racist remarks by telling me an brainwashed. That was racist of u and u should be persecuted for that, left to me.
Blaming eeverythingrything on the white man. I ve said my piece and have nothing else to say to u. If u think am brainwashed that's your problem. At least I don't go around quoting the bible and misinterpreting its contents.

Yes am catholic. What has that got to do with being born gay!!!. Shows how naive u are and quick to pick out, what u call imperfections in others.

So miss perfect. Get off your high horse. cause we all know u aint perfect either. Heck u cud be a child molester. We d nevr know.

Live and let live

Homosexuality is here to stay. Deal with it. And stop blaming all your problems on the whiteman

@ Blunubian

I said you must be a Catholic Christan for even thinking that the Romans was your forefather when you are black and they are white. You must be a catholic for believing that and for even thinking that the missionary's came to cleanse blacks of Homosexuality. Did you know those missionary's were of Roman decent?

First of all I was not blaming white people for everything but I did blame them for homosexuality.

Second of all, I didn't quote anything from the Bible as a matter a fact I said nothing about the bible.

You are no different from the rest of the religious fanatics, saying things like I should be persecuted. I bet you would love to have me stoned.

Honestly, I could careless about who is gay and why they are gay. If a person is gay I don't judge them by that, I judge according to character. As I said, I have a cousin who is gay and a close friend who is gay, they are both that way by choice and I love them the same.

This is a open forum to the public and I was joining in on the conversation stating some facts about the origin of homosexuality. Everything has an origin you do know this don't you?

All I did was state historical fact, something that can be proved. You stated no fact, all you did was ambush, using the bible. You boasted some religious make believe world stuff that in my opinion, you have been programmed to state.

You say you have nothing else to say to me?

It was you who spoke to me first, I was just responding. I f you don't speak to me again that would be to soon.

PS, you don't know what a racist is, if you did you would be pointing the finger at your self. Only a racist would try to persecute someone for speaking freely, and for not being in agreeance with them. 
I will have nothing to say to you as long as you don't say anything else to me

@ Blunubian

You have been thourughly brainwashed  if you think Africans needed whites to teach us about anti gayism.

Where do you get your knowledge from? A fairy tale book of the evil black magic? I bet you believe that all is bad comes from black and all is good comes from white.

The white man did a pretty good job on programming you. 

It was the white priest and white nones who was molesting little black boys and little black boys that started homosexuality in Africa, that was the white influence I was talking about. The missionary's were used to lewer black people in pretending to be kind, they were wolfs in sheeps clothing. They gave you their religion and told you Jesus was white. Africans began to put behind the old traditions to accept the white mans religion which was a trick. That is why you believe black is bad. That is why you believe the Romans was your forefather. You must be a Catholic christian beliving that one. That is why you really believe that it was the whites that came to purify blacks of homsexuality in the name of God When infact, the whites were already homsexuals when they came to Africa

Little black boys were molested by white men during slavery In America as well as little black girls. that is also another white influence I am talking about.

You need to go and fumigate your mind. Maybe you will return deprogrammed and then you might be open to hearing the truth.

@ Cammy

At least you are being honest.

This is my opinion. When a woman chooses to be gay it is because she does not want to partake in being subjected the the male ego.

She does not want to put up with his arrogance.

If a woman has a free mind, and she is raised in a house hold where she is taught that she is lower than the man, if she gets a chance to be free of that situation, she may choose to not become romantically involved with men.

There are other reason why she may choose to become gay as well. I have a cousin who chose to become gay and I have a close friend who chose to become gay. They both had different reasons for their choice.

To me when a woman is gay, it is totally innocent. It is just two women playing house. Women have the ability to make each other feel loved and nurtured. When a man is gay, that is a whole different thing because they actually penetrate each other. Once that has been done

bluenubian:
omg u sound like u really know what u saying.

What an infuriating nonsensical statement , sincerely, i hope you are jus a kid, cause this infuriates me, and is very racist and I am not even white. what studies led you to this conclusion. you need to be hung and tied with your tongue for making a statement like this?

and your lil theory about hermaphroditic kids is garbage!!~!


Actually homosexuality existed before the white man came, the romans practiced homosexuality, even our forefathers_{yes i said it}. but the way it was practiced, was different. It had to do with spirits and reincarnation_{long story}. Anyways its the white man the brought anti gay-ism with its missionary work to Africa. Where else do we get the notion that homosexuality is "bad", other than the "bible". realize that i put the bible in quotation marks. so please don't say the white people this white people that. your statements about "plato" are somewhat true. but u have taking the whole situatution and twisted it to explain your phobia and appease your anxiety about homosexuality.

To all those that think homosexuality is a disease - "your problem!!! get a life, leave them alone."

Homosexuality is here to stay, so u better get used to it

if u think i am now a lesbian(homosexual) or always been a lesbian - sorry, but u don't know jack about me. i jus believe in human right. "live and let live"

@ Bluenubian


I know you don't think the Romans were black! It infuriates me that you want to defend the white man so bad that you are infuriated.

You don't know what you are talking about. Romans and Greeks are the same people, they are from Europe, look on the map. The Romans and the Greeks are white people, they are not your forefathers, they are the forefathers of white people. African people are not naturally or innately homosexuals. If you don't believe me do the research of Europe and homosexuality. Then do the research of homosexuality in Africa. Pay close attention to the time periods because you will be in for a big surprise.

Homosexuality is a mental conditioning process for black people but the true origins of homosexuality comes from Europe.

I know some of you are going to be mad at me for saying this but it is true. Gays in Africa or homosexuality amongst black people period is caused by the white influence.

But, white people are naturally homosexuals. Not all white people are practicing homosexuality as a way of life but for them that is a choice. The whites who do practice homosexuality for them it is also a choice but again, Homosexuality is a white mans disease that he can turn on or of at will.

Has anyone read the book "Plato's Symposium?" This books talks about how Plato was a man who had sex with his students, in other words he was a pedophile. Those young boys he had sex with Turned out to be just like him. This was accepted amongst the Greeks as a rights of passage from boyhood into manhood. Women at that time were only looked upon for child baring purposes only. The woman who would bare children for the homosexual white man had to be at the age of 13 to 16 after those ages she was considered as not fit to be looked upon and therefore no longer fit to bare children. All over Europe, statues with little boys standing still as their penis dangle is something common to Europe. Men having orgy's is common as well. Europe is the only place on this planet earth that has a history of pedostry and Homosexuality. White people are the only people on this planet earth who have a warped psychology.

If the gay boy is white he is telling you the truth he was born that way, it is a tradition of his people. But, God had nothing to do with him being that way. If the gay boy is black, he has suffered some type of mental conditioning. Did he ever attend a monastery? Has he ever been molested? Does he have a large white influence? These are some questions that may help to understand, if the gay boy is black.

Ps, Someone said you had to be a Christian in order to participate in this Thread. I am not a Christian but I do believe in what our Ancestors believed, the laws of the Opposites. When The almighty made man the almighty also made woman. Our Ancestors believed in the God and the Goddess. Man can not be fruitful with another man and vice versa for the woman with another woman. Homosexual sex is also unhealthy, it is not good for the male body nor is it good for the female body. Some where down the line homosexual sex will cause physical problems.

In the case of a child born with both male and female Instruments, that is a birth defect in my opinion that is caused by some of the medicines these doctors prescribe. You know that some doctors play God trying to see what they can manipulate and bring about. Any way, those people born that way are not any gender until they reach the age of wanting to have sex, that is when they become to realize what they are. It is the doctor and the parents who decide right away to make a choice on what that childs gender ought to be and that is where the mistake is made. The child should not be treated determind by what people feel that childs gender ought to be. That child should be left alone until that child comes asking questions about his sexuality. People make the mistake of choosing a gender for those particular children born with both male and female Instruments. That child should have the oppurtunity to chose for his self.

I would like to welcome you and I look forward to forming a friendship with you.

@ Darkmanzero

What is it with this proof stuff? What are you talking about? You sound like someone else I had a dispute with in another discussion.

Please, lets be real, there is no need to provide proof on a theory about a woman kissing a man. We are all just giving the man advice based on what we know, thats all.

You don't personally know the man or woman and neither do I. Secondly, if you are going to ask me to provide proof don't you think you should do the same? You are no different from me.

Also, I responded twice to this discussion, the first response was for if the girl he was talking about was black. I didn't see you saying anything about providing proof for the post.