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@ Chinani

Brothers & Sisters, please ignore Trini_dumby, she's in a desperate search for attention.

If you respond she'll never make it to mental hospital.

Please, be cruel to be kind.


Quote from: trini_girl on September 01, 2006, 07:11 PM
Nigerian men are disgusting vultures! I live in Trinidad and Tobago, and these men keep coming here trying to marry us, offering us money, gifts and promising a sweet life in America or back in Nigeria. Their father is always some chief.

They are trecherous liars!!! And hate each other while pretending to be their friends.


Quote from: trini_girl on September 01, 2006, 07:11 PM
I have never had a Nigerian man. God forbid!
So you've never dated a Nigerian man but you know all about them? Can you spell S-T-E-R-E-O-T-Y-P-E? Sound it out. . .How about B-I-T-C. . .

Chinani, I don't understand, if you dont' feel that all Nigerian men are bad, why would you tell another Nigerain sister to date other men like white, Hispanic, Asian etc.

Which side are you on?

A sister posted about not being able to find a Good Nigerian man, your response to her was to try dating White, Asian, and Hispanic men.

@ Christel

Sista i went through your question again
& i realized that u were really hatting, & i'm upset about it
no point telling me that u re not trying to be desrespectful
becus. u er,  maybe u need to go back n read what i
said in my post again  i don't condone nonsense from no one
not even  u & i have no time to pretend 
i rem. saying that i love d skin im in  meaning that
im proud to show as many pics of me as i want & it
does'nt matter what hatters like u think or pretend to be.
iam & will always be me, love it or hate it
by d way lets see a pic of u

You have only recanted not feeling as though I was hating because you got your audience to pump you up. Don't let other people influence you. If you did not get the impression that I was being disrespectful in the beginning, why do you feel that way now? I told you you were beautiful but you could be even more beautiful without the hideous wig, how is that disrespectful?

I don't hate on women, I don't hate on anyone. You tell people that they are hating if they don't give you the compliment you feel you deserve. I am not going to be phony with you. You posted your pic so take any criticism you get like a mature woman. Telling someone that they are hating is a way to make them feel like you are feeling after they have told you the truth, truth hurts.

If I must get even more honest now that you have provoked me.

All of your pics lack class.

pic #1- If you were going to wear a wig that was supposed to be straight, why do the ends of your wig look like it tried to make it back to Africa I think your wig was trying to tell you something

pic #2- Where is your real hair? haven't seen it yet

pic #3 and #4 can barely see your face, to much wig

So, that is all I have to say, hopefully you will go over your pics and make the proper adjustments. Then and only then will I give you a full credit comment and hopefully then you will be proud enough to have a pic of you with your real hair.

Said it with my real screen name and you can call it what you want to call it

@ Ugwumba

@ yes, Sista, take up the challenge from CHRISTEL - you stepped into the furnace so the heat is on!!!

and hey, no fakes - we need 3/4 pics (different poses), you ken?

@ CHRISTEL, stay strong, your fan base is rock solid, LOL.

I didn't know this was a challenge. I'm sorry, I don't put my pics on the internet. I was not trying to challenge Christel. I just wanted her to know that with the hideous wig it takes away from her natural beauty.

I personally think she started this post just so she could have people pump her up about her looks. This discussion has nothing to do with why you all love your self, it has to do with the Beauty Christel wants to show everyone that she has.

Again, I think she would be much more beautiful without the wigs. There are so many things black people can do with their hair without hiding it up under a wig or putting chemicals in it.

We do all these things to our hair and then when the hair begins to realize it is being rejected, it begins to go bald. Then we wish we had loved and treated our hair better.

@ Kag

You didn't bother reading the link, did you? Alright, the term "scorcher" came from the Greek, and it's easy to see how it got its name independent of the alledged interstellar knowledge of the Dogons. Furthermore, Sirius is "the major star of the "Big Dog" constellation, it is often called the "Dog Star"; the Latin name for this star is Canicula ("little dog" and in Arabic: الشعرى aš-ši‘rā in Islamic astronomy, from which the alternate name Al Shira derives. In Chinese the star is known as 天狼星 (Tiānláng xīng literally, “heavenly wolf star" (from the wiki link)



It's plain to see that other cultures have also used the "dog" or "canine" classification for Sirius, and while it's possible that they all improbably named the star after the Dogons, and those pesky White people (probably a cabal affiliated with "The Man" changed the name out of spite, but you'll understand why I don't give that thought much merit.

If it explains anything, it would explain why the constelation would be called Dog or canine or wolf but it does not explain why the star it self was called the "Dog star". You wouldn't call the stars in Orions belt Orions star belt would you? Those three stars in Orions belt have their own names although they are a part of the Orions and Orions belt Constellation. The stars that make up the constelation of the zodiac signs eachl have their own names as well but as a whole they make a single name to describe the constelation.

@ Yommsey


Of course there is true love. Nothing last forever though and sometimes you find that out the hard way when it comes to love. I still love the father of my child and it is true love but I no longer desire to be in romantic love with him, I haven't been with him over 14 years now but if he needed me I would be there for him. Sometimes it is good to have a friend you can always count on even if you are no with that person. Having a friend sometimes makes life easier, you atleast always know that you are not alone.

Don't worry, you are young and you will fall in love again. When you do, don't take out on your new love what your old love did to you.

@ Kag

Second, Sagan was a legend in his own right. He was an "astronomer, astrobiologist, and highly successful science popularizer. He pioneered exobiology and avidly promoted the Search for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence (SETI)." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_sagan). He had a thing to say about it, because he was skeptical of the claims made on behalf of the Dogons. His theory (and to be certain he wasn't the only one) was based on different factors and inconsistencies in the saga. Factors which included the possible "cultural contamination on the part of visiting astronomers who went to the region to observe a transit of Venus", with the Dogons apparent interest in astronomy, it's easy to envision how a higher upper - like say a priest or shaman -  could have entered into a discussion on Sirius and how it became incorporated into their religion and myths that were already based on "heavenly" matters.

Although, I haven't read Broca's Brain yet (I'm still reading Cosmos), from what I understand, Sagan does state his case well.

You must be a white man who is trying to keep the lie going that black people are inferior to whites and whites are always right in there theories and skepticisms.

Or you must be a brain washed black man who has no idea what he is saying.

First of all, if western Astronomers did visit the Dogon a long time ago and tell them about the star, why didn't those westerners document their findings of the star? Where is their Documentation that they knew this star and they shared the knowledge with the Dogon? Westerners document everything, even if it is a lie.

It wasn't until recently that white scientist came to know about the star Sirius B. How can people who just found out about something, claim to have a theory on how the original people obtained the knowledge? When mind you they knew nothing until the original Dogon discovers of the star told them. Again, this is a ploy to discredit black people.

History shows that white people have never shared anything with black people. Black people if anything shared with them and what ever black people did not disclose to them, they found a way to steal. So, this crap about some white people told the Dogon about the star is BS and another ploy for the white man to take ownership by falsely staking his claim.

If you are going to debate with me, produce some scientific evidence that has been written by anyone except for white people. Can you do that?

Don't you understand that the White man discredits his own people as well as everyone else, he must be first at all times. Any thing that he writes about black people is bias especially when it is based on his theory and no historical evidence.

@ Kag

No, it's rubbish. To attribute powers to and personify numbers in base 10 really is silly.

If it is all rubbish, why do you then say that 270 is terrifying and 333 is terrifying if you don't think numbers attribute powers?

6+6+6 = 18.  270 is a more terrifying number. And 333? Forget about it.

My directions were, add across until you get a single digit, try it again.

270 is terrifying for the same taboo reasons why 666 is and 333 is. Again, you must add across until you get a single digit. You will see that they come out to be the same number. I won't tell you what that number is, your so smart I am sure you will figure it out .

I don't think it's right to say Egypt is the sum total of Africa, but that's neither here nor there as it doesn't even address the point I was making which was, contrary to what you claimed, "astrology was first discovered by the Dogun people", cultures like the Sumerians and Egyptians studied the stars before the alledged time of the Dogons alien visit.

You are not trying to make a point, your mission is to discredit the Dogon people.

Weather you think it is right to say or not to say, it is a fact. What you think does not matter here. Egypt is the sum total of Africa. That fact is here and there and it is not contrary to this discussion. Save your manipulation of the English language, that does not work with me. What you don't seem to want to understand is, sense the Dogon had this knowledge, they shared it with other Africans as well as Egyptians. Egyptians have their own creation story which is almost the same as the Dogon but slightly different very slightly. This is because Africans at the time were in accord, I bet you don't support that either?

Nonsense. The Big Bang theory is about the origins of the Universe, matter, time etc, and not some "star exploding and the Earth pouring out of it". Also, their idea of the Earth (alone?) coming from some Sirius like star (I'm not sure I have that exactly right) doesn't seem to go with the evidence.

If you are not sure exactly that you have it right, save that debate for someone who will go for that. By the way, what evidence are you referring to? Please tell me because right about now you definitely sound as though you are talking a bunch of rubbish.

@ Kag

Most definitely not, civilisations like the Sumerians and Egyptians would definitely have come long before the Dogons, even if we accept that the Dogons were/are, in the strictest understanding of the word, Astrologers.

Egypt is the sum total of the entire Africa.

Egypt did not know all that they knew on their own, it was the contributions of the entire Africa including Egyptians that gave knowledge to upper Egypt.

That is why the first pyramids are in Egypt. Africans from many tribes made a journey to Egypt to contribute to the knowledge many different  Africans had. They traveled up the Nile into Egypt. That is one of the things the pyramids represent. Everyone on the bottom and in the middle contributing to the top, united we stand strong and tall but divided we fall. Also, the first universities were built in Egypt because Egypt represented the end of the top of Africa but the beginning to where learning about African knowledge begins, Upper Egypt the head of Africa.

To be honest and polite, it all sounds like a lot of numerology rubbish, amongst other things. Some points, 360 adds up to 9 like other factors (right word?) of 9, and no 9 isn't really a magic number. Also, why is 10 the reincarnation of 1? I would have gone for 11 myself, but really like I said it's pretty much souds like numerology rubbish.

You are right it is numerology but it is certainly not rubbish.

11 can't be the reincarnate of 1 because when you add 11 across to get a single digit it becomes 2.

When you add 10 across it becomes 1

360 added across becomes 9. 9 represents the end.

Have you ever seen 666 in the bible? For many people 666 is a taboo you know why? Add it across and you will see.

I haven't been able to find anything concrete on the Dogons representation of the Big Bang theory. I have seen snippets here and there, but nothing I can tie to the Big Bang theory.

The Dogun don't call it the Big Bang but they describe it as  the Star exploding and Earth pouring out of it. White people call it the Big Bang, again their manipulated plagiarism.

0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10
1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20

Notice how we never get back to the 0 by it self but 0 still shows up from time to time. This is because there is only one beginning and there is never an ending. The 0 represents a warning, it tells us to prepare for a beginning because 1 which represents beginnings is about to come.

Finally, no Sirius wasn't initially named after the Dogons, the name comes from "the Latin Sīrius, from Greek Σείριος (Seirios, "glowing" or "scorcher". As the major star of the "Big Dog" constellation, it is often called the "Dog Star"." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirius)

How does the glowing or the scorcher become the Dog? Again, the Dog-on called it the Dog star first. White people changed the name like they change everything else.

Thirdly, scientists didn't find either Sirius B, or indeed Sirius because of the Dogons, they were found before contact with the Dogons, indeed Sagan theorised that the Dogons learnt about Sirius B through Western influences. As for Sirius itself, it can be observed without the use of any telescopes and things of that sort.

That is BS and I think you know it. Sagan theorised? who the hell is this man to give a theory about African people? You sound like you don't even know what you are talking about when you bother to mention that to me. What proof did Sagan have for thisr theroy except for pure speculation based on the fact that the white mans view on the Dogons discovery of the star was purely circumstantial?


Also I noticed that your tone suggest that you are not really serious about this subject, I get the impression that you just want to make a mockery of this whole idea, please spare me the tone, I don't like it.

If you want to read about the Dogon you can refer to this sight.

"The Dogon live in the remote Hombori mountains of southern Mali. Their land
is arid, their life is hard, and their farming methods are those of Iron
Age. Their myths, on the other hand, are entirely Space Age.

"In their most secret religious teachings the Dogon record a curious story
of visitors from another star system. The star people, called Nommos, and
also the Instructors, came down to earth in a spinning ship. It made a great
noise and wind and spurted blood when it landed. Something came out of the
ship: it had four legs and dragged the ship to a hollow. The hollow filled
with water and then the Nommos came out. They looked more like fish than
humans, and they needed to stay in water. These Nommos were saviors and
guardians for all of human kind. They gave advice. They gave their bodies
for men to eat, and in the end they were crucified and will return to earth
again one day with human bodies.

"All this might be nothing more than one of the world's peculiar creation
myths, which teem with beings visiting the earth from other worlds. But
there is a difference: the Dogon's story is constructed around precise
mathematical information about th star system the Nommos came from, near the
bright star Sirius. The Nommos said that Sirius had a small companion star.
It was white in color, very small, and immensely heavy. It rotated on its
own axis and made an elliptical orbit of Sirius once every fifty years. All
this is precisely true.

"Until fairly recently, Western astronomers knew nothing about a white dwarf
star circling around Sirius. They first suspected that Sirius might have
such a companion in 1844, when small disturbances in the star's movement
were detected. Then, in 1928, astronomers understood that although Sirius'
companion is very small (it is classed technically as a white swarf and is
called Sirius B), it is composed of extremely dense matter and therefore has
enough mass to explain the effects. In 1970 the first photographs of the
star were taken. The star's orbit, as the Dogon say, is elliptical and is
completed in 50.04 years--a little more than two weeks longer than the Dogon
predict.

"Astronomers admit that the kind of knowledge the Dogon have about Sirius
can only be obtained with advanced telescopes, which the Dogon have never
possessed. They attempt to account for the Dogon's knowledge by a series of
rationalizations. Sometime after 1928, a Westerner with a compulsion to
impart obscure knowledge must have visited the tribe and told them about the
discovery of Sirius' satellite. Then, just for the pleasure of confounding
the French anthropologist who collected the stories in 1934, the Dogon
claimed they had the information for centuries, and that it had been given
to them by fish-like people from the stars. Even more ingenuously, the Dogon
seem to have remembered a very ancient Babylonian story and modeled their
ridiculous tale of the Nommos on it. This story, recorded in the 3rd century
B.C., tells how an egg-shaped vehicle landed in the Red Sea, and how out of
it came an amphibious people called the Oannes. They looked terrible--half
fish and half human--but they gave the people all the information needed to
become civilized."

All of this can be read at this sight: http://www.sacred-texts.com/ufo/dogon.htm

@ Actuary

What do u do when u're hopelessly in love and your folks are opposing strongly to your relationship?

Just to let you know, we do choose who we fall in love with. Falling in love is a concious choice.

If our parents see that we have not made the right choice or that our choice has a flaw, it is their duty as a parent to intervene. However, ultimately the choice is yours and if your choice turns out to be a mistake, you will have to suffer the consequences. This is what our parents want to avoid for us if they can.

Something else you should know, your parents love you and would not deliberately do or say anything to hurt you.

The relationship one has needs to be good for the entire family or else there is going to be problems. If your mother and father do not approve of who you are dating, whether they are right or wrong, your relationship will suffer.

Your parents will send out negative vibes that will absorb into your relationship, sometimes you won't realize that you are reacting to these vibes. It is important to know that, if you continue your relationship, you have to be strong to protect you and your friend against negative vibes. But, on the flip side, if your parents turn out to be right about this friend of yours, you can't let your ego get in the way. You can't continue to be with this person to spite your parents and prove them wrong, you would only be hurting yourself.

Why do your folks oppose, can you tell us more?

@ iice


Yes, symbolic. If you have no idea how to articulate who you are universally ,you just articulate for self understaniding, interpretting for your self who you are. Historically all story telling was told using symbols.

@ Remmzy

white people sucking blood from people of color? Its only in movies, you've been watching too much of that lately!
Have never heard any case of vampire sucking blood in the world that we are, but only in films . aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

Read the thread again. I said the things they do and I named some of the things they do, The things they do is symbolic to blood sucking from people of color. When you watch films about vampires the films are not litteral however they are symbolic to something real. One has to be able to make the connections when watching those types of films.